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We also know officials are warning the situation could get very grim, as the hours unfold. And as i said, we are awaiting a Press Conference from officials, any moment. Our Randi Kaye is there for us, Tonight. Reporter anderson, still, 99 people unaccounted for. But rescuers are not giving up hope. They have been at it now, about18 hours. At one point today, they were Working In the Parking Garage Underneath that collapsed building. Now, they have some teams actually on top of that pile of rubble. Going through it, looking for survivors. But certainly, it has not been easy. There were some heavy rains here, earlier today. And every time that building shifts, it has the potential for some small fires. We saw one of those, earlier today. But rescuers say, anderson, they will work through the night. Reporter in a matter of moments, a huge chunk of the Champagne Tower South in surfside, florida, collapses into a cloud of dust. This video appears to show what happened at about 1 30 in the morning, as residents slept. Buildings falling down in america. And here, we had a building, literally, fall down. Just doesnt happen. Reporter the 12story Condo Tower just north of Miami Beach was built in 1981. Of the morethan130 units inside, nearly half of them are now destroyed. More than 100 people have been accounted for. But officials say, nearly 100 are, still, missing. My nephew was here with wife and three four children. You know, lose hope. Just asking god. Reporter whatever brought the building down was so strong, neighbors heard it and felt it next door. And suddenly, a loud bang. Almost like a [ inaudible ]. It woke me up. But this rumbling was a very different, very strange. And something was not right in this sound. Too strong, too violent. It almost felt like a Shock Wave coming. Reporter since long before dawn, Search Teams have been combing through the rubble. Using Concrete Saws and other lifesaving equipment. Searchandrescue dogs, also, Help Lead the way. Rescuers are hoping someone, anyone, is still alive. Trapped beneath the rubble. Earlier today, they thought theyd found someone. They have heard sounds, earlythis morning, from what they feel was somebody in the parking garage. So, however, the communications were it was more clinging people, in those type of situations, they will find items to make noise with because they want want to be saved. Reporter 35 people were rescued from the structure that was still standing. Two more people were pulled from the rubble. At least four were taken to the hospital, where one died. The problem is the building has literally pancaked. It has gone down and i mean theres theres just feet in between stories, where there were ten feet. That is it is heartbreaking, because it doesnt mean, to me, that were going to be successful, as successful as we would want to be, to find people alive. Reporter Nicholas Balboa heard a Boy Screaming for help. He was just screaming dont leave me, dont leave me. Reporter Rescue Teams helped pull the boy to safety. But dozens of families are, still, wondering about their Loved Ones. This is very sad, when you are dealing with people that dont know the outcome of their family. Theyre very worried. Theyre theyre they they just are desperate, in the sense that they want to know whats actually taken place. But we continue to try to rescue. We continue to try to find more people. Reporter and Tonight, anderson, of course, there are many questions about what brought this building down. But officials are saying that is not their priority, right now. The priority is saving lives. They dont want to tell all of those families that their Loved Ones didnt make it, so they will continue the search. And the families, anderson, are staying close. There is a community center, just a few blocks away. They can leave that center, but they have requested pillows and blankets. Im told, they are not moving, waiting on word of their Loved Ones, anderson. Yeah, of course, randi, appreciate it. Thanks. We are going to check back with you and as i sate, id, we are awaiting a Press Conference on this collapse. Joining now, Son And Husband of judy spiegel, who is among the missing. Gentlemen, thank you for joining us. I am so sorry its under these circumstances. Josh, i know you have been at the Family Reunification Center all day. Do you have any updates . Or what have authorities been telling you . We dont have any updates, at this time. Theyve come and told us how many people are unaccounted for. And that the they have teams underground searching for people. But we dont have any, other information, other than that. But, anderson, if you could look right behind us. They are on top of the rubble, trying to start peeling it off, one by one. We have a lot of hope that judy is still alive. And still there. And still there. Yeah. She is an amazing person. Shes greatgrandmother, mother, wife, shes just amazing. And, kevin, i know you live in this building with judy and i understand you were on a Business Trip in california. I cannot imagine, to hear this news. And then, fly back. How are you doing . How are you, both, doing . I mean, it it is hard. I was doing a Hospital Turnaround in watsonville, california. I got woke up in the middle of the night, which most men do. You go look at your email. And i saw the Emergency Notice on my phone. And thats when i notified all the kids, and it was on the news. Hmm. It was very unfortunate. Yeah. As soon as i heard, i drove, immediately, down from orlando. And were here with my Sister Rachel and my and my brother, michael. The rest of the familys all here and were hoping and praying that they are able to find my mom. You know, i i spent time in places where buildings have collapsed. Most most, obviously, in haiti. And, you know, we saw people being pulled from the rubble, days and days, after a building has gone down. So it is, certainly, possible. I understand that that holding onto hope because weve seen it, in the past. Kevin, do you have any any idea what happened . I mean, have you ever had any concerns about this building, in the past . No. I think it, you know, surfside is a wonderful town. I think that the building did put off some of the repairs that it needed to do. But they were ontrack to start moving on things. And most recently, started to do the necessary requirements for the 40year certification on the roof. And we were moving. In the main lobby, was the whole design of the modernization plan. So, we were ontrack. It was actually moving forward. But maybe, covid slowed it down. You know, josh, we we we see, and weve been told, Searchandrescue Teams are going to be working through the night. As you as kevin as you pointed out. The mayor says they are not lacking, when it comes to resources. That is, certainly, a blessing in all of this. The fact that there are incrediblyskilled first responders, who are, at this moment, and throughout the night, are going to be working. I i assume, that gives you some amount of of hope, as well . Yes. As coming from a healthcarebased family, were very were very proud. And were very hopeful that the community here will be able to find our Loved Ones. And i just want to say that, um, my mom is an absolutely amazing person. Shes a fighter, and is she fights for every single one of us. And we wont stop until we wont stop fighting until we find her. Well, Josh And Kevin spiegel. Thank you so much for talking with us. I i i hope you get good news. And i i hope to be able to share that with you. Thank you, so much. And i im im praying for you. Anderson. Yeah. God bless you. God bless, everybody. Thank you so much. Thank you. Stay strong. More now on the people who are on the scene. And will be on the scene for as long as this search, rescue, and Recovery Operation takes. The first responders, who are doing incredibly delicate and urgent and lifesaving work in the rubble. Joining us district chief Jason Richard of Miamidade Fire Rescue. Chief richard, i appreciate you being with us. I cant imagine what this has been like. You ran the overnight Searchandrescue Operation at the site. You have been searching since 1 00 a. M. Whats it like working Work Thg Site . Working this site . The sites been a difficult, you know, challenge for us. There is lots of hazards in the building. But we are continuing our efforts searching for survivors. And doing our best to remove them. We saw a video that was released by Miamidade Fire Rescue showing rescue crews, i believe it was in the parking garage. Theres water on on the ground. You can see supports, i guess, that You Guys have put in to keep the structure that you are working under, to keep you all safe. Can you just explain . I mean, it it in a thing like this, isnt i mean, if you move one piece of metal, its like a jigsaw puzzle, isnt it . I mean, dont you have to constantly be aware of how one piece affects another piece . Yeah, thats correct. As we move into the Rubble Piles or, in this case, a parking garage. Structural engineers as part of our urban Searchandrescue Teams and some of the units that were deployed with us that help determine whats safe to go in and where we need to put shoring and other materials to to make sure that the building doesnt shift or come down on our rescuers. So, as we move through the building, we constantly monitor. Making sure that theres no movement. Every piece of rubble that we move, we have to take make efforts to to stabilize the building, inch by inch. There was a lot of water inside the structure due to broken pipes. We that was one of the issues that we had to mitigate. All the utilities in the building, electric, gasoline from the vehicles, propane and natural gas, water. So, that was part of our operations overnight. Was mitigating those those hazards to us and anypotential survivors. And that was part of what we did overnight, also. At this stage, are you using canines . Are you using sound devices in the rubble to hear anything . Or is is ti im not sure wt the sort of chronology of how you work is . So, yeah. Were using Canine Assets from Miamidade Fire Rescue and Florida Task Force one. As well as, Listening Devices that we have as part of our cache of equipment. We, also, stop and hail callout to in the Rubble Pile listening for any sounds, tapping, voices, anything we might hear. So occasionally, we will stop all of our operations and just have everybody go silent and listen. That, in conjunction with the dogs moving about the Rubble Pile, constantly, as well as the Listening Devices. We have cameras that we can bore holes into slabs of concrete and put into other void spaces in order to see in corners and small areas, also. We heard from one official, earlier, talking about how the building i mean, not not why. But sort of, just structurally, how it went down. That it, essentially, has pancaked. Is that true for the entire structure that that went down . That it is just on top . Each floor is on top of the other . Or is i mean, is there some is it possible theres spaces underneath . So, in this type of collapse, even though it is a pancake collapse, as the slabs of Concrete Slide and and move towards the ground. They do create voids, you know, as the rubble crushes and slabs of Concrete Land on top of it. There are, definitely, voids. So we are hopeful that we will find patients in those in those spaces. And we we have identified voids and those are the areas that were were focusing our efforts. When, obviously, crews are going to be working through through the night. How difficult i mean, obviously, you could bring in lights does it make it exponentiallymore difficult Working In working at night . Or can you light it up, sufficiently, that its close to the same as day . So, throughout the day, weve been planning for this phase of the operation. You know, once nightfall came. Allday long, weve been bringing in resources, such as light carts. We have lighting that were able to elevate 10, 15, 20 feet in the air in order to help out so we have light carts, towers. Our Ladder Trucks have powerful lights on them that we can put up, elevated, to also help light up the scene. Yeah. Chief richard, i appreciate what all of your team, the men and the women, are doing on this. Its extraordinary work that that you all do and incredibly skilled and brave. Thank you. Appreciate it. And thanks for the update. Thank you. Again, we are waiting a Press Conference from other officials on the ground there, any moment. We will bring that to you, live. Joining us now is Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman schultz, who represents surfside. Congresswoman, have you been provided any insights or any information about what may have caused this . Because they really are, anderson, still, in the midst of this heartbreaking, painstaking Searchandrescue Operation. Theyre not even really approaching trying being able to try to figure that out. It is the most bizarre, just unbelievable situation that especially, in a community like this one, in south florida. Where we have such stringent building codes. You know, 40years inspection requirements. This building was 40 years old and was just about to undergo its inspection. Its they, really, still have not begun to even be able to sort that out. Yeah. I believe an attorney for the Condo Association was on with erin burnett. Saying that, in preparation for that 40year update, they had had an engineer or multiple people looking at the building. Coming up with a list of things that needed but they didnt have any indication, at this stage, that any of those things may have related to this. But obviously, you said the focus is, really, on the Recovery Efforts right now. What have you been told about about family members. Yeah. What have you been told . We just talked to to the chief there. Whats the plan for the coming hours . So, over this period of time, you know, theyve just shifted the crew here. The the that the Search And Rescue is continuing. I have been working since i got on the ground, and before i left washington this morning. To with the White House and with our Stateemergency Management officials here to make sure that all the requests that are made by Miamidade County and surfside are are able to be granted. And, you know, the White House has confirmed that what ever is asked for is is going to be granted in terms of the longerterm housing assistance, debris removal, the the expenses that are, obviously, massive. That no budget this small, like the city of surfside, is, or even Miamidade County can handle because its so unexpected. But, you know, the the the key thing here is that we have, you know, really, dozens and dozens of families who are whose hearts are broken. Who are desperate to get information about their people. Im working through my district office, anderson, to try to get visas processed, quickly. So that we can get family members, because theres a lot of international families here. And we need to get their Loved Ones here, who have people who might have been in the building or who we think were in the building and we want to make sure we get their Loved Ones close. This is the most bizarre, freakish, you know, chaotic situation. But we have the best Searchandrescue Team in the country here. Our Searchandrescue Team goes out to all of these disasters around the country and the world. Unfortunately, right now, the disaster is right here at home for us. Congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, appreciate your time. Thank you. Sorry its under these circumstances. Thank you. Coming up next. We will also talk to a Structural Engineer, and what may have been the cause of this. And why, in this country at least, incidents like these are, thankfully, so rare. Later, Senator Bernie Sanders joins us on the bigbipartisan Infrastructure Deal announced at the white House Today but also the much less bipartisan Spending Deal both he and the president want to go along with it. More on that ahead. Your cloud. It isnt just a cloud. Its everything flowing through it. And its more distributed than ever. One company takes you inside. Giving you visibility and insight. To take action. One company. Securely connects it all. 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Joining us now is sh Shimon Davinsky who did a study of the building last year that determined for at least a portion of its life, it had been sinking. First of all, the idea that this had been sinking. Can you just explain what that actually means . I mean, how much you noticed that . How much that was able you know, how much was it sinking . And what more do you know about the condition of the building . Okay. So, it was we looked at it as part of a study when in Miamidade County. So, we used Satellite Data from space and we looked at the movement of the Air Surface of the building. Now, we dont like the Term Sinking because sinking is something that sink into liquid. We usually use the term subsiding. Subsiding. Okay. So, what we notice is that the building was subsiding. At a very at a rate of 2 millimeter per year, which is small but it was noticeable because the the rest of the area was very stable. You say you say it was you say it was noticeable. Its not noticeable to the Human Eye. I mean, 2 millimeters a year. Its noticeable, through your instruments . Exactly. Its and its observation from space. So, it noticeable on the background that other places move or did not move. In area, other building didnt move. It was a localized area of subsidence. We use data by the international space agency, which is called isa, between 1993 and 1999. So report is about movement that happened during that period. And we saw that the building was moving so its not clear if its that the the land was moving or the building was moving into the land. But it was a obviously, the the building, itself, moved. A very small portion. Which is about a over the Measurement Period of six years is about halfaninch. So let me just point out. You were studying this in the 1990s and over the course of of somesix years. And and you are talking about very you are talking just about millimeters. Theres no is there any i mean, theres no evidence, at this point, because, frankly, we do not know what caused this tragedy. Whether any kind of movement of a few millimeters each year would have had any kind of impact on what actually happened, correct . Well, the thing is that the the the we had the measurement in the 1990s. We did a study just a few years ago and we reported it last year. Because we were concerned about the risingsea level. But the we need to look at more data and to see if the rate of subsidence is accelerated or change or stopped because we cannot say. But the thing is that the the building moved at a very slow rate. But it, still, moved. And usually, things like that associated with some cracks in buildings and structural damage. Its hard to say because we never went over that. We just noticed that and we reported that in our study. Its, also, interesting because you were saying that this was very localized. Meaning, that it wasnt this wasnt happening to all the buildings around it, correct . Thats correct. In other places, we saw more diffused pattern. Although, it was localized and most likely reflect the building. Whether its the the Ground Movement with respect to the ground where the building stand. Or but its not the the other building around it. So professor, i really appreciate your your time Tonight. Thank you very much. Now, to officials on the ground there with the latest information. They are holding a Press Conference. Lets listen. We stand in solidarity, once again, to tell you we are working, around the clock, to Search And Rescue people in this rubble. And we did identify and declare, as safe, 102 people. And 99, we, still, cannot account for. Some of whom may not have been in the building. So our firefighters, men and women, are working around the clock. A huge Task Force of people that are continuing. Theyre, right now, working. They are going to work all through the night. The dogs. Theyre Working In the garage. They are working on the top. So they are visible right now. But they are they are proceeding with with all of their might. Like, i can assure you that, these firerescue personnel, the best in the world, the ones that are called upon to come out in crises everywhere are working as hard as could possibly be. They are so motivated to bring people out, safely. And restore them to their Loved Ones. So, we just wanted to let you know, as the day comes to an end, that their day does not. But we will be back, bright and early, 7 30. Whats our time . Okay, approximately 8 00, we will be here to report after our morning briefing. And we will report on what has happened throughout the night. Were very pleased that we are joined by our senator, marco rubio. Our congresswoman, debbie wasserman schultz. Our chairman of the commission and our vicechairman of the commission. And we just wanted to be sure that we could close out the die for you, and you could, all, take a rest and come back refreshed, in the morning. [ speaking foreign language ] mayor there of Miamidade County. Not much new information about pointing out the latest from officials on the ground. 99 people, still, unaccounted for Tonight. In surfside. Its important, as she said, that doesnt mean 99 people its known that 99 people were in that building and they havent accounted for those people who are in the building. They theyre not sure that some of those 99 people may have been out. This occurred around 1 30 a. M. In the morning or thereabouts. So, they are still, obviously, trying to get in touch with anybody who who may have lived there but not actually been there. To try to figure out, exactly, how many people it is that they are searching for, right now. The operations are underway. And will continue throughout the night. Joining us, now, is a Structural Engineer, who currently serves as californias seismicsafety commissioner. Kit, thanks so much for being with us. Im wondering just what you make first of all, we just had a guest on who had done this study. Saying that the that the building was had been subsiding in the the timeframe that they were studying it, in the 1990s. Is that significant . Yeah, most definitely. Well, first of all, this collapse is really a classic failure of Column Failures which means the building, itself, is support by a series of pillars so if the pillars fails, everything fails. So thats exactly what look like that. And i seen hundreds of them like that. Now, columns or pillars happen for potentially three reasons. One, poe tentially, as professo was talking about, the sediment itself could compromise. Thats one. Two is potentially the corrosion of this steel. You know, this as you noticed, this right next to the ocean. And also, area collapses the oceanside. Right . So corrosion will compromise capacity of the column. If the column fails, everything fails essentially. And a third reason potentially something compromise the columns, pillars, maybe Truck Or Something run into it. Highly unlikely but those are probably, three potential reasons why this things collapsed. Its a really interesting thing that you point out which i had not realized because i didnt have a sense, the side that collapsed, you are saying, is the side that faces the ocean. Yeah. Exactly. Usually, you see more corrosion at seaside because Salt Exposure is higher than the other side. And thats what you see in many, different places, especially the caribbeans. An attorney for the Condo Association had been on cnn saying that that they had had an engineer looking at the place. And that they had, in order for the 40year certification and that they had a list of things that they were going to be working on. How significant is it to find out exactly what it is, that that Engineer Saw . Or what anybody studying this Building Saw . Because would would corrosion if what this is, is the columns gave way, is corrosion like that very visible to the Human Eye . Yeah. Well, the i mean, first of all, this a 40year recertification for safety by the county in miami. Its one of the Best Practices in the world, by the way. So, these are actually verytop standards that Miamidade County has. Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. I think its a really great practice. And now, where you see [ inaudible ] you are going to see the cracks on concrete. The reason is the rebar gets rusted. It cause a cracks. So if the exposed concrete, you can see the cracks fairly fairlylargesize cracks. You start seeing it. Then, youd know the Theres Something wrong in that reinforcement. So, yeah, Structural Engineer, that is a really critical one. The when its part just part just part of a building collapsing. Does that tell you a story . Does that tell you something . I mean, obviously, you had talked about its the side facing the water. And thats more likely to have the corrosive effects of of salt. But i mean, if if say, it was partly the sediment of the soil. If only part of the building is of the excuse me of the building is settling into the soil. Would that that would, obviously, cause stresses as well . Thats right. If certain Area Building settles more than others, you know, get pulled in so cause some stress there. But collapse from the Right And Center and and north side, also, collapsed at you know, right right after. So but again, usually, the corrosion doesnt affect uniformly. You can see certain elements, structural elements, get affected more than others because of exposure to weather or, maybe, water leaks, you know, stuff like that. So those would be three things. For Searchandrescue Teams right now. We talked to the chief a little bit earlier who said they have Structural Engineers with them just to keep the site safe. Thats just got to be an extraordinarily delicate operation. Oh, most definitely. I mean, search andrescue team. Their members, you know, they are definitely risking their lives. Extremely dangerous condition. And as you said, Structural Engineer so they usually attach to that and they ensure well, at least reduce the risk of the rescuers. You know, i was in Mexico City Earthquake in 2017. And same thing. Just need to provide a safe, safe access to the firefighters get into the people. Yeah. Now, but theres [ inaudible ]. Even a concrete floors collapse each other. Usually, theres Air Gaps caused by the Concrete Debris and so on. So, as you saw, i did too. Haiti, to mexico, to nepal, to everywhere, when a Building Collapse happens. Many cases, days after, you can find some people, still, alive. So there is still hope. It absolutely happens. I mean, we have seen it. I really appreciate your time. Thank you. Its fascinating and thanks for your expertise. It was a significant day, as well, in washington. Coming up next, we will talk about the newbipartisan deal on infrastructure. Possible bipartisan deal on police reform. And the challenges that remain. Senator Bernie Sanders joins us next, on 360. Tonight. Ill be eating cheesy Cauliflower Pizza with extra broccolini. My tuuuurrrrn Tonight. Ill be eating cheesy Cauliflower Pizza and yummy Broccolini Doorbell rings thanks. doorbell rings thank you. Is that my leotard . No. Yes. Ehh, you can keep it. upbeat Pop Music in background throughout its being treated as what one former Vice President might once have called a big effing deal. Thats how Joe Biden famously described the passening of the affordable care act. Tonight, President Biden celebrating a big bipartisan deal with money for infrastructure but not without some potential strings attached. This deal means millions of goodpaying jobs and few burdens felt across the kitchen table, and safer and healthier communities. But it also signals to ourselves and to the world that american democracy can deliver. And because of that, it represents an important step forward for country. The package agreed to with the democratic and republican senators, five each, calls for 1. 2 trillion in spending over eight years. Of that, a little less than half would be new spending over and above current levels. However, the president , also, signalled that he would not sign it on its own. But only, if accompanied by a larger package of taxandspending measures which would likely be passed under reckon silgds. In other words, solely, with democratic votes in the senate. Joining us now, Senate Budget committee chairman, Bernie Sanders. Senator sanders, thank you for being with us. Earlier today, you said you hadnt seen what is in the bipartisan bill or how it is going to be paid for so you didnt want to say you would support it. Since then, i know the White House released a breakdown of the bill, how its funded. Can you say if you will support it . Well, what i can say is that, where the spending is going makes a lot of sense, to me. It its directed toward bridges, our roads, water systems, wastewater plants, broadband, heavily funded. Thats the good news. We need to spend money in that area because our infrastructure is crumbling. On the other hand, some of the payfors, how they are going to pay for it, i have concerns about. But what is most important, anderson, is what is not in that bill. Which is why the president said he would not sign that bill, unless we move forward with another, major piece of legislation under, what we call, reconciliation. And, that is, to, finally, address the longstanding crises facing Working Families in this country. I think everybody knows people on top are doing phenomenally well. Corporate pockets are soaring. But for the average worker, things are pretty, pretty rough. So what we have got to do is, now, invest in making sure that we have affordable housing in this country. That we have Home Healthcare for an aging population. That were able to expand medicare, so that we, finally, can cover dental Care And Hearing aids and eyeglasses. That we deal with the crisis in childcare, where so many families, Working Families, cannot afford childcare. And that, in addition to all of that, its absolutely imperative that, we deal with the, i would say, existential threat to this planet of climate change. And when we do all that. When we invest in healthcare and in education, making higher education affordable. When we invest in transforming our energy system. We are going to create millionsmore goodpaying jobs. So thats what the president wants. Thats what i want. And i think thats what we are going to see. Yeah. I mean, as you said, hes pointed out that he he wont sign this bill, if if unless its accompanied by this larger package, that you just talked about. How do you think thatll impact the chances of the bipartisan Bill Passing . I mean, will it convince enough progressives to vote yes . Oh and on the flip side, might it erode republican support . I think, at the end of the day, my guess is that both Bill Bills will pass. And i just want people to know because i think there is a lot of alienation, disenchantment on the part of american workers with what goes on in in washington. And i think, what we are, finally, doing is listening to the pain of lowincome and middleclass families. And instead of worrying about the rich and the powerful, were going to focus our attention on the needs of Working Families. And i think what we are looking at, in my view, anderson, if we pass what i would like to see us pass. It is probably the most consequential piece of legislation for Working Families passed since the 1930s and the great depression. Let me ask you about that because i i dont want to put words in your mouth. You seemed to suggest today that you would be open to lowering the 6 Trillion Price Tag of that bill. You said you think 6 Trillion is the appropriate amount but acknowledge you have to work with 49 other members of the democratic caucus. Can you say what you are willing to compromise on . Or what you what you see this actually coming as . Well, if the bipartisan bill is passed and that will have, i think, something like 570 Billion in new money. Thats simply those are, pretty much, the programs that were going to put into reconciliation. So, thats a heck of a lot of money. Were not going to build the same bridge, twice. So, you can deduct some of that from what were trying to do. Look. What the process, as you well know, is about. I got to deal with 49 other people and somebody says you should spend more on this. Spend less on that. You know . And my job is to kind of work it all out so that, at the end of the day, we are dealing with with the crises facing Working Families. For the first time, we will finally have paidfamily and medical leave. We are the only major country on earth where, if you have a baby today, you got to get back to work in a week because youre not guaranteed time off. Or your kids are sick, you can get fired if you are staying home taking care of your sick kids. Thats crazy stuff. So, what were going to do is address those issues. I cant give you an exact number. Itll go up, it will go down. We will see where we end up. Senator sanders, as always, we appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you very much. Now that a new York Court has suspended Rudy Giulianis Law License, what happens next to the formerpresident s lawyer . And once one of the most powerful prosecutors in the country . 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In a ruling after a disciplinary hearing, the court said his statements in defense of the former president , immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law. He can appeal the Decision But Disbarment is a possibility. Joining is George Conway who has vocal in his opposition to the former president. Mr. Conway, should anyone be surprised this happened . No, not at all. Because this was a story about completely relentless, representative, incessant, intentional lying, and we all saw it unfold in real time and the court recorded in its opinion saying this, under the disciplinary rules, under the rules of professional conduct is impermissible. We cant have lawyers lying in their representation of clients, and the court found that giuliani has done both. And i have to say, based on what i saw in this opinion, even though this is only an interim ruling and interim suspension, its pretty clear that giuliani doesnt have much of a defense and hes entitled to a hearing, but unless he comes up with something, and i dont think he will, were never hes never going to see the inside of a courtroom again other than as a defendant. You really believe hell be disbarred . Or hell at least receive a suspension thats long enough that given his advanced age, hes not going to be practicing again. And i dont know, frankly, who would ever retain him given his record. Giuliani said Tonight on another channel, quote, theres No Doubt if i was representing Hillary Clinton Id be their hero. I represented my clients so effectively that theyre trying to get me to shut up, end quote. Youre not allowed to represent your Client And Lie brazenly, are you . Thats exactly the point. It isnt about who he was representing. This was about the line, the incessant lying, saying that thousands of people voted in georgia, dead people voted in georgia, and, in fact, only two were found voted that way. And saying that thousands of underaged voters in georgia voted, in fact, there was a full audit in georgia and it was found that zero people had voted. He lied to a court about the claims that were actually being litigated in the court. His client the campaign withdrew its claims of fraud, and yet giuliani stood up before a federal judge and said were asserting these claims of fraud and his cocounsel had to stand up and say, no, were not. He lied to courts and the public and in the context of how important and how significant and the poison, the poisonous effect of these lies, the court said it had no choice but to suspend him even before having a full hearing. Do you know much about his business . Will this affect his Bottom Line . I dont know if giuliani and associates is still around, but he used to which was sort of consulting, lobbying, im not sure exactly i think they did a wide range of security related and other services. I dont know that hes got that business going anymore. I mean, from everything i read, he seems hard up for money after a costly divorce. I cant imagine anybodys going to be hiring him for anything. He just came off last year not only just with the dishonesty but the worlds worst lawyer. His main client was president of the united states, and other than Donald Trump himself, no person on this planet did more to cause Donald Trump to be impeached not once, but twice, than Rudy Giuliani. Remember, it was Rudy Giuliani running around ukraine trying to get the ukrainian government to conduct a bogus investigation of Joe Biden and hunter biden. It was, of course, Rudy Giuliani who pushed these ridiculous claims of fraud and stood on that podium on that platform at the ellipse on January 6th at that stop the steal rally saying we need to have Trial By Combat to determine whether the president of the united states lost the election. Its incredible. Its conduct unbecoming a lawyer. Its like a Fever Dream when you say it. Its its nuts. Its nuts. I think his best defense would be some kind of an insanity defense. Today is the 35th anniversary to the day that Roy Cohn, the disgraced attorney for mccarthy was disbarred by the state of new york. Actually an attorney that used to work with Roy Cohn was my Moms Attorney and she did her and she got him disbarred as well. His name is tom andrews, hes dead now. But how eerie and satisfying is that coincidence . Its one of those fascinating historical coincidences. It is one of those fascinating things. There are incredible similarities. Roy cohn was a very talented man but a very, very dishonest man and thats why he was disbarred. He was also one of Donald Trumps favorite lawyers. Yeah. And Donald Trump, remember, when he was he was mad at Jeff Sessions for being ineffectual for his View Attorney General and said where is my Roy Cohn . Roy cohn was the Model Attorney to Donald Trump and look where it got him. George conway, appreciate your time Tonight. Thank you. Thank you. Coming up, the latest on that Building Collapse in miami. Thankfully a boy was rescued from the rubble. Ill talk to a man who helped save him, next. No, hes not in his room. Dad, why didnt you answer your phone . Your mother loved this park. She did. They told me you cant make a boombox fly. So i built a boomboxasaurus. With code and we did it together in our live online coding class. At byjus build your own world at Byjus Futureschool with live oneonone coding classes taught by expert teachers. 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