Media advocates on edge. And later the first joint interview with patrick jimjong. Learn about their plan to rejuvenate the New York times. Donald trumps allies resent hearing about the insurrection. They complain bitterly about the continued coverage. You can hear it in Tucker Carlsons voice. You can hear his resentment. But their and his attempts to deny reality, to come up with reasons for an inside job, the fbi made me do it, all that stuff, that is one of the reasons why the insurrection remains in the news. University of Illinois ProfessorNicholas Grossman said it better than i could. He said repeating the news of January 6 is tedious, even exhausting. But the people lying about, downplaying, defending and apologizing for it appear inexhaust i believe. So the choices are keep repeating the truth, Shooting Down Lies and conspiracy theories, or conceding to them. Reporters giving up is not an option. Keep reporting, keep debunking the crazy stuff. But its sad how inevitable this all feels. Like we were always going to end up here in this place where people can choose their own reality about the riot. I wrote that headline a week after the day of terror. It was already starting, riot denialism. Its become worse and worse since. As my Colleague Briana Keilar says, roll the tape. Because the best thing we can do is roll the tape. Expose the truth. Deny the lies, but start with whats real. And here is whats real. The riot is a presencetense story every day because of legal battles and new revelations. You probably have heard how Media Access is fighting for this footage every day, fighting so the public can see what really happened every day. Prosecutors in nearly 500 criminal cases have been using these videos to make their cases against alleged rioters. But there are thousands more, thousands more videos. By one account there may be 14,000 hours of Surveillance Footage, mostly still locked away from the public. Conspiracy mongers on other channels are implying there is a coverup afoot, which is why the footage is being hidden. But they are not going to court to try to pry the videos free. But cnn is. You can see this coalition that is working together to try to get these videos released. This is the hard slog of real journalism. Count them, 18 access cases in 18 criminal cases before 14 judges fighting for access of the footage. The Department Of Justice led by Merrick Garland has promised to release the footage but its been stymied along the way. Kaitlyn plant, cnn justice reporter. Since your kids may be watching, tell me about this legal battle. Why is Cnn Spending so much money, time, resources, Brain Power to not release these tapes . Its very important, as you just said. In the face of this denialism thats growing every single day, the video really tells the story. When you watch these videos, and they are very difficult to watch, no question, but when you watch these videos, you can see the undeniable violence that took place on that day. As Cnns Lawyer who tries to help our journalists report the news every single day, when kaitlyn said she was having trouble getting these videos out of the court, i knew it was time to help her out. So we got our outside lawyers at Ballard Spar led by Chuck Tobin to file these actions in court, and weave been so far successfl with a bunch of Media Partners who agree on the importance of getting this material out there for the public. Kaitlyn, here is a question from a viewer who wrote to me when we were doing this block. Jerry asks, are outlets like Fox News in court with you, cnn, nbc and the rest, are they also fighting for release of these videos . Whats the answer, kaitlyn. Those outlets are not part of our media coalition. All we know is we did feel early on that it would create a strong showing to have media Outlets Band together. I was asking the court repeatedly and the Justice Department, please give us access, please give us access, there are tapes being shown in court that No One has seen. Nbc had gone to court and gotten one of the early tapes released. So it really has been an effort from these organizations all for their own reporting but then communally also believed we should be getting access to these tapes somehow. There is a principle here and there are also practical reasons why we need the footage. What is most of this footage, katelyn . Is it mostly body cam footage, what . We wont know until we see it. What we are seeing right now were actually not seeing anything. What were hearing is that were listening to Court Hearings and prosecutors, or even defense attorneys, are showing footage. Sometimes theyre playing it to a judge and were listening on a Court Line to cover the hearing. Thats part of the coronavirus restrictions where we cant actually be sitting in court for every hearing right now, so thats one of the implications. And then we also at times are reading judges opinions or Hearing Judges speak and acknowledge that they saw video that was sent directly to them. So what we believe is in a lot of these cases is Body Camera Footage and Surveillance Footage video. That is like an up close angle that is its a scene of the Krap Capitol Riot that we havent been able to access because much of the video on that day, on January 6, was either shaky Participant Video or nuews cameras that somehow pulled pretty far out of the scene. What we saw looked very far away. These videos show it looked like a crime. Now, of course, the prosecutions Go On. Drew, is it constitutional for the Justice Department to be withholding all this content . Its not. The public right of access, and it is the Publics Right of access, the media stands in the shoes of the public w. When we go into court, we are saying the public has a right to be in this courtroom, to see this proceeding, to watch this video. The Supreme Court has held for over 40 kbryears that the publi has a right to be in the courtroom proceedings, and that extends to videos that they rely on. Unfortunately what were seeing is its taking much too long to get this video released. Weve been asking it since march in many cases and still havent gotten a lot of it. Its very important that we get it contemporaneously, because the reason why a lot of these judges have been shown the video, as katelyn said, is because these defendants are being detained before their trial. So theyre in jail awaiting trial because a judge saw these videos and said, wow, these are really graphic, awful things that you are accused to have done. I see the video, and im relying on that document, that video, in order to detain the person in jail. Thats a significant moment in any criminal proceeding. And we need to be able to see that and to judge for ourselves as the public whether or not these people ought to be remaining in jail until their trial, and, of course, when they do have their trial, they will have an opportunity to make their case of why they dont believe that they did the things that they apparently did on video. Right. Lets roll the tape and then people can see it. Briefly, while i have you, drew, i know you werent in this meeting on monday, but cnn, the Washington Post and the New York times had a meeting about the spying of journalists and media logs. The meeting seemed constructive. The a. G. Said afterwards they are going to change the rules and caudify the rules. Whats your impression of the takeaway . Was this an instructive and confident meeting . We are encouraged and hopeful that the promises the doj is making appear to be set in stone. Its important that Barbara Starr and katelyn have the right to do the work you need to do and not fearing that the doj was going to go into Someones Email accounts, personal phones, certainly not without being able to tell the journalist that. So we are hopeful changes are going to be structural and in writing, and well see if that happens. Hopefully it will. Im grateful for these reminders of how important the legal department is. Two newsrooms. Katelyn, bottom line, you couldnt do your job without drew. Not at all. And the stories weve been able to tell because of the efforts of cnn to go to court to fight for access, that really has been so important in coverage of court, because the video we cant be in dcourt, all we can o is try to recreate this as best we can, and video is an Essential Point of that. Drew, katelyn, thank you both for teaching us. Thank you. Cnn is showing an important twohour documentary tonight. It starts at 9 00 p. M. Eastern on cnn. 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Tucker carlson was not just asking questions when he talked about Fbi Operatives the other day. He stated it as fact that the operatives organized the attack. Fbi operatives organized the attack on the capitol. There are documents. He said Fbi Operatives organized the attack on the capitol with documents. It was there on monday. It was there on tuckers show on tuesday. Tucker repeated it all week long. He said, hey, how can you disprove this . Go and prove it. Like he was challenging the media to go and do his work for him. This is everywhere now. Everybody has heard about it at this point. Gop lawmakers are parroting this completely bogus conspiracy th th theory. Its all because of the pipeline from his toprated show like a domino all across the web. That set me to ask some questions. This is presumably what tucker did. Presumably he asked questions of the fbi and of prosecutors and sources . So i asked Fox Pr executives, did Anyone Vet tuckers reporting . Did the Fox Newsroom go through his reporting . Why havent they followed up on it since . Tucker alleged these explosive stories, claiming this incredible bombshell. Where is the Fox Newsroom . Why arent they covering this every day. Why isnt Fox News with Chris Wallace covering this incredible claim right now . We know why, right . Because carlson is out there on his own. Carlson island. He does own an island. Hes out there on his own, claiming to be telling the truth to his viewers. And the defense from fox is that its an Opinion Show and everyone knows its an Opinion Show. But it looks like news, it smells like news, his fans think its news. They trust tucker more than real reporters. Why isnt fox following up . Why isnt the Newsroom Digging into his claims . Why isnt the News Lroom Tryingo prove Tuckers Theory . Those are my questions. Let me check my email to see if theres been no, still no response from Fox News pr to those basic questions about journalism, about basic news gathering. What do you think . Are there any answers . With me now is david zerwick, media with the boston sun. And author of demagogue for president. I know you both have a lot to say about this. Im going to keep checking my emails to see if i get answers to my questions. Why isnt the newsroom fooling up . Tucker carlson is alleging one of the biggest stories for years. Obviously we know, david, why they dont reply, they know why fox doesnt comment. Because tucker is his own guy, he does what he wants. David . Brian, i think its worse than that. I have said that Fox News is crooked and rotten from top to bottom, and sometimes people push back and say, oh, no, those Opinion Shows, what about brooke blair, blah, blah, blah. No, it is a Propaganda Operation. It is not a journalistic enter surprise. We know roger founded it as a political operation, not a journalistic enterprise, but he was smart enough to brand it as if it was mainstream, journalistic newschannel much like cnn, but maybe leaning right. Its not leaning right, its falling over on its face, its prostating on its knees before Donald Trump. Fox and rotten from top to bottom. They will never investigate Tucker Carlson on this with their newsroom. And the fact that Bret Baer and everyone who claims to be a journalist over there doesnt proves who they are. Since Donald Trump and locklan running it now, locklan murdoch, its become more of a Propaganda Operation now. This is now since trump, an operation and its fullfelony. Brian, you talk about this echo chamber. You have right wing radio. You have Fox Nation and each of those can go further to the right and a little crazier with conspiracies than fox wants to Go On the air. But Fox News is the lynchpin. When you have an audience of 3 Million like he does, once you say it on Fox News, it takes on a Mainstream Kind of status, at least for people on the right. Thats why its so dangerous. So lets go into the rhetoric of it and what tucker is actually doing. Jennifer, do you this for a living u. Living. You teach your students about propaganda. What is tucker doing . Is he creating a Fight And Flight response and what is that doing . He is, absolutely. Weve known Rhetoric Scholars like me have known since aristotle that emotions are pretty desperate. When you tap into peoples emotions, you can get them to do what you want them to do. Media talks about how therapeutics work through the television, and cognitive scientists have actually explained its your Bodys Physiology. So your fight or Flight Response is when there is something dangerous thats in the area. Your Bodys Physiology floods your brain with stress hormones, with adrenaline, with cortisol. Those take over your brain are you saying that first he scares his viewers by referring to the Biden Regime and claiming you might be next. So he scares them and then he presents a Conspiracy Theory. Thats absolutely right. What he has is your attention. Those hormones have me attend to his message. Theyve also denied you of your ability to think critically. He has your attention but you dont have your reason. He deploys Conspiracy Theory and hes excellent at creating anywhenarratives that people wi believe. So this theory about 1 6 was an inside job. Is that basically what hes saying . How is that a Conspiracy Theory . Think about a tire, when you run over a nail, instead of puncturing and going flat, it seals itself up. If you say the plot didnt happen, they say, you are denying the truth and you are against Free Speech and why wont you even let us talk about this or investigate . If you deny the facts, then they say youre hiding the truth from us, right . So the logic of Conspiracy Theory itself cannot be punctured because the Conspiracy Theory will cover over, just like that nail, will cover over any objection that you make. So how do we get out of this mess, jennifer . I tell my students pay attention to the media you consume. If you feel like your adrenaline is coursing through your body, if you feel on edge, if you feel anxious when youre watching the news, then that news is designed to make you feel anxious, and thats a problem. I think its also important when we talk to our friends and Family Members who do watch this kind of media, we can be more empathetic to them and realize its not a natural response. They may actually have ptsd where their body is set on high alert so often theyre walking around constantly in this state of fight or flight. Goodness gracious. I just checked my email again. No response from Fox News yet. David, real quick. Did you know some of these Tv Hosts rooting for putin last week . They were rooting for putin. I did On Fox. Let me correct that. I was actually surprised, even for fox, i was surprised to see it, brian. And i thought, well, they have to say it was interesting because it was projection. They were angry that people said trump was an embarrassment when he was next to putin, so now theyre going to say it was an embarrassment, but Biden San embarrassment because he wasnt next to putin. It makes my head ache. Jennifer, david, thank you so much. Up next, barack Obamas Message about Nationalization And David frenchs warning about constant fuel for the Grievance Fire. What is a Grievance Fire . French will tell us, next. Is what business is all about. Its what the United States Postal Service has always been about. So as your business changes, were changing with it. With ecommerce that runs at the speed of now. Next Day And Twoday shipping nationwide. Same Day Shipping across town. Returns right from the doorstep, and deliveries seven days a week. 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Im mad as hell might as well be the new slogan for some of those shows on Fox News we were talking about earlier. One of the favorite stories was about a School Board in New Jersey who decided to list each holiday as a day off instead of using names like christmas or thanksgiving. This is just local New Jersey news, but it inspired at least 18 mentions On Fox. Then after all the drama, the School Board ended up holding a special meeting to rethink the decision. Sure, it was probably a Bonehead Decision in the first place. But national news . This is what i mean by radical nationalization. A Law Enforcement Officer in idaho gets fired after Making A Tiktok on lebron james, and boom, firethe latest target of cancel culture. And random opeds, sorry, writers, they shouldnt be national news, but the story got 30 mentions On Fox when it came out. We saw it this week with a cancel culture of tom hanks. This concept is not unique to fox. They just happen to be really easy to show those examples because theyre On Fox every day. But this is a concept much bigger than a single network. Nationalization of news, of media, of politics is helping the scholars keep studying, and its a phenomenon that my next guest refers to as nationalization of outrage. He says the nationalization of everything means theres constant fuel for the Grievance Fire. Its a big country, and theres always an outrage somewhere. David french, author of that piece, Senior Editor of the Dispatch And Columnist for time magazine. I didnt have the language for it. Then i read your column and a couple days later i heard obama talk about it, and it all kind of connected for me. Spell out how you view nationalization, what that means and why its a problem. Its a twostep process. Number one, whats really important to understand is we live in something called negative partisanship. That means people are republicans not so much because they love republican ideas but because they dislike democrats. People are democrats not because they like the ideals but because they dont like republicans. There is a market for justification of that animosity. In other words, if im on twitter, at any moment theres always somebody doing something crazy somewhere, so you can find that fuel. Oh, In Topeka at a costco, someone yelled at someone for wearing a mask. Look what theyre like. In Des Moines Someone got his Maga Hat knocked off his head. Look what theyre like. Youll always find that fuel, and what that fuel does, it actually communicates inaccurate information about your political opponent, so there is now a lot of research that says the more engaged you are in political media, the less informed you are about the actual viewpoint of your opponents because youre constantly exposed to their worst, youre never exposed to their best. Right, so youre saying if youre only hearing about the most radical, random, you know, new York City liberal more than liberal leftist, hippie, if you think thats your opponent and you have an irrational sense of what the other side is, in this nationalization of outrage, there is always some piece of content to get angry about. It would seem to me Facebook And Twitter are very much a part of this problem, because theres always something you can click on and get angry about. Honestly, were the problem, because we engage with that content. You know, its not that facebook forces us to engage with it, were happy to share that, look what theyre really like. And the really interesting data says that, look, if youre less engaged with the political media and you get more of your information about your political opponents through these things called friendships or relationships, you actually end up with a much more accurate view of what they really think about, say, Border Security or about defund or support the police. Its the political Hobbyist Class that is totally folk outside that negative partisanship that is driving this nationalization of outrage, because theyre so thirsty for that fuel, for the fire of their own anger. Im really glad you coined this term. Im giving you credit here and now. It helps me process all these Media Battles i see happen every day. And then the other Layer Obama added to it in his recent interview was about news coverage. There was an article that shows the less News Content there is in a newspaper, the less partisan stuff you hear, the more people feel disconnected from their communities, and this really relates to the local news crisis, doesnt it, david . If we as a country are not able to sustain local news, then well all end up hearing national news all the time. Thats a big, big issue. What happens when an issue is nationalized, you actually feel more angry and hopeless, because how much of a voice do we have on something national . Whereas if something is local, if its dealing with your own School Board rather than some New JerseySchool Board or the colonies in virginia that are covered all the time, if its your own School Board, you have the ability to do much more about it than if youre looking at something like, say, the San Francisco unified School District and youre living in will williamson, tennessee, like i do. Its impetus rage, helpless rage because you cant do something about it. When youre engaged locally, you can do something. Its almost pornographic if youre in the middle of the country reading about San Francisco all the time. By the way, Theres Problems in cities. Theres problems everywhere. If you read them youre going to blow them out of proportion. Nbc had a great story this week about critical Race Theory concerns at the national level and then trickling down to local. So youre seeing the flip side of this Nastionalization Issue s they go to local outlets and get polarized nationally because of local fights. Is that what happens as well . What happens is people get very angry and engage locally about something that is not happening locally. So youll hear a story about something in New Jersey, and it could be a bad story or you could hear a story about something happening in San Francisco, and maybe the School District there is really wrong, they did something bad, and then you charge into your local environment, and nothing like that is going on. So its very important, i think, that people look, its not that stories about whats happening in other states and cities and jurisdictions dont matter. Some of them spawned, for example, legal precedence that do matter, but we need to keep it in Proportion And Perspective that a Masking Incident in a costco 300 miles away does not necessarily tell you all that much about the united states of america. Or anything. David, thank you so much. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. Up next, a very serious story. A newsroom becoming a Crime Scene with editors now behind bars. Is this the end of a free press in Hong Kong . Two special guests join me next. I win again, patrick. Thats siiir patrick. Oooooow. Sir. Jess at safelite, we have service the way you need it. When you have a cracked windshield, schedule Safelites Drop and go service. Just drop off the car and keys in the morning. Uplifting Music Jess . And go enjoy your day. Well text you updates along the way. 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But the paper is in Dire Straits and may not survive many longer. Jimmys righthand man will join me in a minute, but first lets go to Elaine Yu covering this story in Hong Kong. Elaine, thank you for joining us. Has this caused fear for citizens in Hong Kong . Yes, this has sent shudders through the industry because it raises questions how reporters can report on topics considered highly sensitive. This is the first time authorities arrested Newsroom Leaders and prosecuted them under the national Security Law over published articles. This is not just about Apple Daily. Local Media Groups say the whole News Industry is affected because we dont know exactly whether those allegedly offending articles or News Reports are commentaries and many are saying theyre guessing where the new Red Line is. Some reporters even asked officials to explain how they can navigate reporting on sensitive topics like foreign sanctions, so the Red Line is clearly hanging over them. What i hear you describing is a chilling effect, that it is having a chilling effect. Yes. And it also affects people as well. Media groups here are also saying it will get harder for reporters to get people to talk to them because the police can now potentially seize reporters files and devices through a court warrant, and that happened for the first time a few days ago. So government critics and other people could become scared of talking to the media. So, yeah, this has widereaching consequences. Elaine, thank you for bring us up to speed. Read her work on woj website. The chairman of appear tell Da Apple daily, jimmy li and he is wanted in in hong hong. I assume thats why youre in New York. Yes. Are they essentially shutting down because of these arrests . Apple daily has 50 Million u. S. Funds in the bank. The problem is our protective security and the police will not let us pay our reporters, they will not let us pay our staff, and they will not let us pay our vendors. They have locked up our accounts. We are basically being shut down by an entire crushing of our ability to operate and an inability to pay our reporters. We we have 5 Million subscribers. We can survive. We have filed a document saying we have enough cash on hand that could last 18 months. We have the money. It is the Hong Kong government that is freezing our accounts and is shutting us down. Its basically the Con Physician Indication of a News Source and of a paper. Is this just fundamentally the communist chinese officials trying to stop the free press in Hong Kong . Are there a lot of independent outlets in Hong Kong . There are a lot of independent outlets in Hong Kong, but earlier you made a comment about mass media. Mass media matters. Were probably the largest. In Hong Kong we have 600,000 subscribers, we have a couple million viewers come to us every day. Mass media matters, and once they can shut down the biggest prodemocracy, and while we are probably the biggest newspaper in town, at that point in time, the smaller guys just have a tougher and tougher time getting the news out. Mass media matters. You said there is an old chinese saying, you kill the chicken to scare the monkey. Is that whats happening here . Thats exactly right. Basically if you knock us off look, we have lawyers, we can pay, we can defend our people, we can defend our brave journalists who sat at their desk and typed out while people sat behind them and threatened them. But if youre a small outlet, if youre a blogger, something like that, God Help you if you get caught up in the Hong Kong security apparatus. By the way, this is not a Court Decision. We have not had a Court Decision against us yet. We have not done anything. These are all orders from basically the secretary of security. We are facing a security agency, we are not facing courts. You also said this reminds you of an old John Wayne movie. Why is that . At the end of the day, the Newspaper Man was not exactly the most reputable in town, but t you had to kill the one voice who would say the truth, even if were probably not everyones favorite person all the time. Thats whats happening here. A free press matters. Its the most important thing in society. I know people in america go back and forth about this thing. Folks, if you do not mark, thank you. We will try to keep on top of this case. More reliable sources in just a moment. Its an important time to save. With priceline, you can get up to 60 off amazing hotels. And when you get a big deal. You feel like a big deal. Priceline. Every trip is a big deal. man ive made progress with my Mental Health. So when i started having unintentional Body Movements called tardive dyskinesia. I ignored them. But when the movements in my hands and feet started throwing me off at work. 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