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Expected. Both the u. S. And russian president are portraying their talks as a success. Lets go to our senior white House Correspondent Phil mattingly. This was a very important test for President Biden against a man he called a worthy adversary. Reporter no question about it, wolf. The president emerged from the three hours of sitdowns with President Putin and his top advisers confident in the Role America is playing in the globe now and the role he believes the u. S. Can play in at least some areas with russia. However, its also very clear for a relationship that has hit a low point, theres significant issues that remain. I did what i came to do. Reporter tonight, President Biden emerging from the highest Stakes Moment of his young presidency satisfied. It was important to meet him personally so there could be no mistake about or misrepresentations about what i wanted to communicate. I told President Putin my agenda is not against Russia Or Anyone else. Its for the american people. Reporter a summit that started with a handshake and came to a close after roughly three hours of direct talks between biden and russian President Putin. No shortage of open questions outstanding as the u. S. And russia seek to emerge from a low point in postCold War relations. This is not about trust. This is about Selfinterest And Verification of selfinterest. Thats what its about. Reporter biden laying out red lines on cyberattacks that have been pervasive in recent years. Specifically, outlining 16 enat this time entities that both sides should agree is off limits. It has to be backed up by practice. Reporter with that caution laying out the scale of the potential u. S. Response. I pointed out to him, we have significant cyber capability. And he knows it. He doesnt know exactly what it is, but its significant. We will respond. Reporter the attacks crippled many. How would you feel in it took on the pipelines from your Oil Fields . He said , it would matter. Reporter putin continuing to deflect on an issue u. S. Intelligence has attributed to his country. Translator as for american sources, they have said that most of the cyberattacks in the world are carried out from the cyber realm of the United States. Reporter as putin declined to say Navalnys Name, biden had this stark warning should he die in prison. I made it clear to him that i believe the consequences of that would be devastating for russia. Reporter both leaders describe the tone as busine businesslike. Translator both sides showed a willingness to understand one another and bring our positions closer together. Reporter productive. There wasnt any strident action taken. It was not done in a hyperbolic atmosphere. That is too much of whats been going on. Reporter areas designated for future engagement to matters where they have diverge enter perspectives. Bidens goal, to recalibrate the relat relationship. We established a clear basis on how we intend to deal with russia and the u. S. russia relationship. Reporter Biden Lean on a view that the u. S. Sits in a stronger position and a unified west can force a changed calculation. Understand when you run a country that does not abide by international norms and you need those to be somehow managed so that you can participate in the benefits that flow from them, it hurts you. Reporter its a bed many of bidens predecessors have made before with limited success, underscoring a clear reality that the ultimate outcome of the Summit Wont likely be known for months. Lets see what happens. That old expression goes, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Were going to know shortly. Reporter wolf, there was one takeaway from the summit. Both countrys ambassadors who have been away from their posts will return to those posts in the next couple of weeks were told. All in all, theres no question about it, from the u. S. Side of things, this was about establishing a baseline, letting President Putin know where there were areas to work, lets him know where there were red lines and mostly trying to in some way, Shape Or Form resuscitate a relationship that has been in a bad place for several years. It has been. Phil, stay with us. We will get back to you in a few moments. I want our viewers to listen to more of what we heard today from President Putin right after the summit as he was questioned by Cnn Moscow Correspondent matthew chance. Watch thchlt this. Reporter could you characterize the dynamic between yourself and President Biden . Was it hostile or friendly . Secondly, throughout the conversations, did you commit to ceasing carrying out cyberattacks on the United States . Did you commit to stopping threatening Ukraines Security . Did you commit to stop cracking down on the opposition in russia . Translator the first overall evaluation as far as that is concerned, i dont think there was any kind of hostility. On the contrary, our meeting was obviously a fundamental one. Many of our joint positions are die diverg divergent. Both sides tried to understand Each Other and try to converge our positions. I think it was very constructive. As far as cybersecurity is concerned, we agreed that we would begin consultations on that issue. I believe thats extraordinary important. Obviously, both sides have to assume certain obligations. Lets talk about this with our correspondents, phil mattingly, clarissa ward, fred pleitgen. Can you read Between The Lines . Its dangerous to try to read Between The Lines with President Putin. I did think it was interesting, the first one on the issue of the relationship with President Biden, the nature of the discourse between the two of them today, he was kwiquite positive. He described it as constructive. He called biden experienced, balanced, professional. He talked about a spark of hope in the eye of President Biden. When it came to those key thorny issues, whether its navalny, whether its ukraine, whether its cyberattacks, you immediately saw a shift in his posture. He became defensive. Thats why as much as both sides seem to be somewhat buoyed by today or the seeds that have been sown through the dialogue, a lot of people are saying, hold on, dont expect any shifts on the major sticking points for President Putin. Certainly, no indication in his answer to matthews questions he is going to be shifting his attitude. Fred, you spent a lot of time covering putin In Moscow as well. What did you think . I fully agree with what clarissa says. One of the things that was important for President Biden is coming into the summit and already having all of americas partners on its side. One of the things that very often gets underestimated is the amount of division the Trump Administration sowed in europe. I think Vladimir Putin knows, he is dealing with a different west now after this, the Tail End of the trip of President Biden, than he was before. The other key takeaway from the Summit We Saw today is that these two leaders have today in a certain way learned how to communicate with one another. I think President Biden is correct. He came in here and said he told Vladimir Putin how he feels. He put some of the examples of what could happen if there was attack on the Oil Pipeline or the u. S. Used cyber. They know who to communicate with. Those are things key moving forward. On some of the topics, there was incremental progress that was achieved. You have the am bbassadors comi back. I do think that more than at any time in at least recent times that i have been In Moscow, theres some movement possibly in the Prisoner Exchange issue. I think both leaders did say that they have a positive outlook on that. They think a deal could be made on that. Theres consultations now on the Cyber Warfare issue, which is so important. Phil, President Biden said, im quoting, he said, i did what i came to do. How so . I think fred hits at a key point here from the u. S. Side as well. President biden, Face To face interactions are extremely important to him. We have seen it on Capitol Hill with his former colleagues in the senate. More so on the international side of things. Obviously, more than four decades at a crucial role, critical role in u. S. Foreign policy as a Senator And Vice president. I think the sense, even there was divides in his own team about the decision to move forward with this meeting, the sense from the president and his top advisers was, this relationship is at a point right now where you cant hurt it by sitting down with President Putin, particularly at this early stage. Particularly given just how dramatically different the approach is than from his predecessor. Laying out the areas we have been talking about over the course of the last several days, where they believe they can work together, where there are clear red lines and the overarching view or per speperspective, i b they believe Theres Value to that. They are clear eyed. They dont have expectations that President Putin will change his views and actions when it comes to human rights. The same with his views and actions when it comes to ukraine and crimea. They are intrigued to see what can come from an Expert Dialogue on the Cybersecurity Side of things. When you talk to officials heading into this and listen to the president coming out of this, they believe they accomplished what they wanted to do. They didnt think it could get worse. They wanted to see if there were ways they could start to make it a little better, wolf. I think you are making an important point. I want to get another take on the summit and what comes next. For that, we are joined by Fareed Zakaria. Thanks so much for joining us. You were watching this unfold very, very closely. Did both President Biden and President Putin come away from this Summit Feeling like they achieved at least some success . Yeah, i think thats exactly the right way to put it, wolf. Simply put, the adults are back in the room. I think on both sides, there is a recognition that you now have a serious adult Foreign Policy being pursued by the United States and that russia is for its part protecting, defending and advancing or trying to advance its interests. Thats as it has been in the past. That is as it should be. We are done with the Circus And Freak show of Donald Trump. When you get to the reality of that adult relationship, there are lots of points of tension. There are points of conflict. This wasnt really meant to be a summit in the sense that people sometimes imagine a summit where you have a big Arms Control Agreement at the end of it or something like that. Thats what we think of when we think of summits, back to the Cold War and Soviet Union and the United States. This was really a bilateral meeting, a clearing of the air and a setting the stage for a stable and predictable relationship. I think they got that. In a strange sense, both sides probably breathed a sigh of relief that they are gotten this over with. Yeah, i suspect you are right. President biden did say that he told putin the two kucountries need some basic rules of the road. When it comes to Cyber Warfare, ukraine, belarus and other sensitive issues, is there any Hope Putin would follow those rules . I think they are three buckets. On ukraine, look, i think there has to be some solution to it. These are the kind of problems that diplomats can usually find some kind of solution to. Particularly in the Eastern Ukraine where russian forces are bogged down. They Cant Stay there forever. Ukraine is bleeding. There is the potential for something over there. On domestic policy, putin is very unlikely to buckle to american pressure. I Think Biden was sending a warning shot. He was sending a shot across the bow saying if this guy dies, this is going to be a bigger deal than you realize, the dissident navalny. Cyber is the most difficult. Its very easy for put in to dey he did anything. Its hard to know who did what. It happens in a shadowy realm. Putin pointed out in the clip you played that a lot of the cyberattacks are originating in the United States. Thats a very clever tactic used by foreign adversaries who want to infiltrate american systems because it becomes easier to disguise their operation and secondly, american Intelligence Agencies by law are not allowed to operate in the United States. If the attack comes from an american server, its hard for the nsa, cia to do anything about it. Thats going to be the one we will be following for years and years to come, wolf. What to do about cyber wars, cyberattacks, how to defer them when you cant be sure where they come from. Are you really going to launch some kind of a war, a Military Operation in response . Biden raised a very intriguing possibility of an american cyber counter attack. We have never done this before to the best of my knowledge. He even outlined what it would be, shutting down russias Oil Pipelines, using american cyberattack capacity, which is, of course, huge. Yeah, the u. S. Has enormous capability if they were going to get into that kind of conflict. Farid, thank you very much. Fa Fareed Zakaria help ing us. We will take a deeper dive into navalny and putins refusal to utter his name. Stay with us. You are in the situation room. You already pay for car insurance, why not take your home along for the ride . 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During his News Conference, after meeting with putin, President Biden said he warned there would be devastating consequences if the russian Opposition Leader Navalny were to die in a russian prison. President Putin Couldnt bring himself to say Navalnys Name. Clarissa ward interviewed navalny before he returned to russia. Shes with us still. Both of these leaders were unrelenting in their respective views. Thats right. We knew this was going to be one of the awkward issues that would be a focus of todays events. Certainly, it did not disappoint with President Putin having some very harsh words for havenavalno he only referred to as this person and President Biden not backing down. A final kiss for his wife before russian Opposition Leader Navalny is led away by russian Security Forces and later sentenced to 2 1 2 years. His crime, going to germany for emergency medical treatment after he was poisoned last august. A russian court ruled that he had violated the terms of his probation in a 2014 fraud case. At wednesdays summit, Vladimir Putin doubling down on the harsh treatment of the dissident, refusing, as always, to utter his name. Translator this person went abroad for treatment. He didnt register with the authorities. He ignored the law. He was then he knew that he was then being investigated. He came back deliberately. President biden standing his ground, ignoring warnings not to interfere in russias internal affairs. I pointed out to him that thats why were going to raise our concerns about cases like navalny. I made it clear to President Putin that we will continue to raise issues of fundamental human rights, because thats what we are. Thats who we are. Navalny was aware of the risks of going back to russia. Last year, a Cnn Exclusive Investigation exposed the security Services Toxin Team implicated in his poisoning. Was it your team that Poisons Navalny . Do you have any comment . Doctors said he was lucky to be alive. Still he insisted he wanted to go home. You have said you want to go back to russia. And i will do. You are aware of the risks of going back . Yes. But im russian politician. Even when i was not just in hospital i was in intense. I belong to this country. Especially now, when crime is cracked open. I understand the operation. I would never give putin such a gift. Behind bars, navalny continues to be a thorn in the russian leaders side. A very public reminder of the Kremlins Intolerance for opposition. Today, putin deflected criticism by comparing him to rioters who ransacked the u. S. Capitol. Biden fired back. My response is what i communicated, that i think thats a ridiculous comparison. Its one thing for literally criminals to break through, go into the capitol, kill a Police Officer and be held unaccountable and it is for people marching on a capitol and saying, you are not allowing me to speak freely, you are not allowing me to do a, b, c, d. They are very different criteria. President biden also warned that if navalny is to die in russian custody, that it would be, quote, devastating. Not clear exactly what that means in terms of how the u. S. Would respond. Excellent reporting. Thank you so much for doing that. Thanks for all the work you are doing as well. Lets discuss this and more with the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Congressman Adam Schiff of california, who is joining us right now. Wi what does it say to you that Putin Couldnt utter Navalnys Name . Clearly, navalny is someone that putin fears. He doesnt fear losing an election, but he does fear these mass movements, these large demonstrations. He watched the revolutions Around The World topple Auto Consi autocrats. Theres a reason why wont mention the name, thats it. It is remarkable to hear him basically make the argument that because navalny, when we poisoned him, didnt trust our doctors, thats why he needs to be in prison. Well, yeah, if you were poisoned by the russian state, you are probably not going to want to rely on russian state doctors. Im glad that President Biden did speak his name and raised this issue as well as the captivity of americans as well as russian interference in our election, russian malign activities in ukraine and and, of course, the very important cyber issues. He certainly did. He even compared putin even compared navalny to the rioters at the u. S. Capitol on january 6th. What did you make of that comparison . Well, this is what putin always does. He makes these false comparisons. He uses a lot of What Aboutism. Tragically for the last four years, he had an ally in that What Aboutism in the president of the United States when, for example, the former president was asked by bill oreilly, why cant you criticize putin, the man is a killer, his answer was, are we so different in the United States. That is putins point. Thats the Point Putin was trying to make. He is not going to tolerate opposition like navalny, who is fighting corruption in russia, who is speaking out for peoples right to associate with whom they would and petition their government and he is equating that with a violent attack on the capitol that resulted in the death of a Police Officer and other people when theres no comparison. Thats putin. Thats what he does. Im glad the president is setting him straight. The former President Trump, as all of us remember, sided with putin over the u. S. Intelligence community during that 2018 summit in helsinki. I couldnt believe what i was hearing at the time. Did President Biden do anything to reverse the credibility of the u. S. Intelligence agencies . Without a doubt. President biden signalled that essentially he is not going to be the pushover that Donald Trump was for the last four years. That he will defend american interests, which increases our capacity to defend ourselves, the men and women that work in the intelligence community. He is going to be unapologetic about advancing our values, even if putin doesnt want to hear about it, even if putin would like to say its a matter of russian domestic policy. Its a different relationship now. I think putin recognizes that. I think he was certainly aware it was going to be very different. The last four years was just the never ending gift to Vladimir Putin. Its a different presidency now. I think our allies, importantly, are reassured of our commitment to nato once again, to article 5 of nato, our defense of democracy again. If i were putin, i would be very concerned as i think china is concerned that the u. S. Will once again rebuild our alliances and use those alliances to constrain malign activities coming out of beijing or the kremlin. You make an important point. The House Intelligence Committee chairman, adam schiff, thanks for joining us. We appreciate you being here. How will President Bidens faceoff with Putin Play with americans back home . His domestic agenda seems to be in trouble. Stay with us. You are in the situation room. No, hes not in his room. Dad, why didnt you answer your phone . Your mother loved this park. She did. [ Me And You by barry Louis Polisar ] Me And You just singing on the train Me And You listening to the rain Me And You we are the same Me And You have all the fame we need indeed, you and me are we Me And You singing in the park Me And You, were waiting for the dark we are following all the Breaking News out of President Bidens summit with Vladimir Putin here in geneva. Mr. Biden is heading back to washington after a News Conference that included a rather tense exchange with Cnn Chief white House Correspondent Kaitlan Collins and it prompted the president of the United States later to issue an apology. Watch this. Why are you so confident he will change his behavior, mr. President . Im not confident he will change his behavbehavior. I said what i said was lets get it straight. I said, what will change the behavior is the rest of the world reacts to diminish the standing in the world. Im not confident of anything. I owe my last questioner an apology. I shouldnt have been such a wise guy in the last answer i gave. Lets get reaction. Jeff zeleny is with us. Dana bash as well. Jeff, he did the right thing, publically going to the back of the plane on the tarmac, going to reporters and apologized. Its a president ial equivalent of batting cleanup. He could have not answered her question. But there was something about it that made him want to engage. Thats why its important we ask the questions and politicians can answer them or not. It was certainly he thought his tone was off. Talking to advisors, he did not want that to be his final word here in geneva. He does think he had a really successful week and visit. The reality is, he will not know if this trip or this Russia Strategy is a success for months to come. There was something about it that it got under his skin clearly. It was a flash of anger, which people close to Joe Biden have seen before. He was certainly led to apologize. It was the right thing to do. It was the right thing to do. The question was a legitimate, fair question. Credit her. Dana, the president didnt walk away with any firm commitments or concessions from putin. How do you think this played out for our u. S. Audience . We will see. The bar is kind of low, given what happened in the infamous H Helsinki Event with former President Trump and Vladimir Putin. This is an administration that set expectations low as well going into this summit. The fact that President Biden got across that he wanted to im not going to use the term reset, because thats loaded when it comes to the american and russian relationship. He wanted to make clear, to plant the flag on where the Biden Putin Relationship would be. It would be straightforward, as practical as it could be, as ernest as it could be in terms of where he is coming from. Thats really the best that they could hope for here. I did think it was quite noteworthy that President Biden likely having seen some of his predecessors do, notwithstanding former President Trump, tried to play to president bputins desires and goals. If you want to be a real player on the international stage, then you have to be in you have to conform with international norms. Dana, the president clearly feels the trip was a success. Could it be a boost for his domestic agenda items, including infrastructure, Police Reform, immigration, what do you think . Honestly, no. These are separate issues, very much separate issues. As jeff has said earlier in the day, the World Stage is his comfort zone. He has been in meetings with World Leaders Time and time again over the years, over the decades, not just as Vice President but as senate of foreign Relations Chair when he was there. That is going to give him confidence. Whether or not that is going to mean he can suddenly miraculously find an Infrastructure Deal or a Police Reform deal, thats a different question. The through line in those two things is the fact that he feels good about his ability to interact on a human level, whether thats with diplomacy or legislative agenda. Yeah. Dana thank you. Jeff, thanks to you as well. Just ahead, we are following more news. A voice of experience on the threat from russia about to weigh in on the biden Putin Meeting. I will speak with the former trump national Security Advisor john bolton. We will discuss the summit. We will get his reaction also to the Justice Department just dropping, get this, just dropping today a Trump Era Lawsuit against him. We are live coverage, thats coming up. , just say, let me talk to my manager. Next, carvanas 100 online shopping experience. Oh, man. Carvana lets people buy a car get this from their couch. Oh, how disruptive. No salesman there to help me pick out the car i need. How does anyone find a car on this site without someone like us Checking In . Shes a beauty, huh . Oh, golly laughter i can help you find the color you want. That sounds nice. Let me talk to my manager. vo buy your next car 100 online. With carvana. We are getting new reaction to the summit here in geneva from former top advisors to President Trump. Former President Trump, i should say, who have experience confronting the kremlin leader. I spoke earlier today with Russia Expert Fiona hill. Was there anything that surprised you coming from putin today, Ambassador Hill . Well, i think, you know i wouldnt say actually anything surprising. Apart from the fact that he clearly wanted to keep the tone generally cordial. I think it was very important for putin to have this summit. It was important perhaps for it not to go off the rails, also for the purposes of taking this forward. It is an episodic event. Its not the be all and end all. There was no expectation it would be settled. But its clear that he is open to having a whole set of other meetings afterwards. The Prisoner Exchange, that came up in the discussions. I would be mindful about that and watching very carefully. Theres an imbalance between who the United States has in u. S. Prisons from the russian side, people committed serious crimes. On the russian side, two former marines, for trivial issues. A lot of fabrication. There was an asymmetry when i was involved in all of this. The issue that jim is mentioning about cyber, thats pretty critical. I think we have a long way to go before we can find some way of talking about this in a holistic sense. There are so many different dimensions. Theres the cyberattacks we have seen the state perpetrating, including the hacking into the elections, of course, putin denied the state was involved. Theres the ransomware criminal groups. This Sayis A really big issue. There was no way it would be resolved in this meeting. There are suggestions to take it forward. The bigger thing is if theres an announcement of different sets of professional meetings at different levels of the u. S. And russian government. Those meetings can be an anchor to stabilize a confrontational relationship. Lets hear now from another former Trump Administration insider. We are joined by the former national Security Advisor, john bolton. He served as the u. S. Ambassador to the united nations. He i ambassador, thanks for joining us. I know you worked closely with Fiona Hill during your time in the trump White House. What did you make of her assessment . I thought they stated a number of the issues that obviously came up in the course of the discussion. I think this was premature. I dont Think Biden had thought through it at a strategic level what he expected to get out of this. In that sense, its a wasted opportunity. Practically everybody who commented on this meeting said, the White House set the bar very low. They barely made it over it. You only have so many summits. I think the idea that a Phone Call to putin or using your Secretary Of State or your national Security Advisor to convey some of these thoughts wasnt sufficient, i think its a mistake. I think what putin reads out of this meeting is that biden has a list of things he is concerned about. He is now satisfied his domestic audience. His early performance, leave words aside, his early performance has been weak and inconsistent on the sanctions, on the new treaty, on a variety of other issues. Performance showed putin, he has some real openings. You dealt with putin directly when you were national Security Advisor, negotiating the 2018 Helsinki Summit with president then President Trump. Is what we saw at putins News Conference today cynical, dism dismissive, matter of fact, is that the same putin you dealt with Behind Closed Doors . Look, putin is smart. He knows his responsibilities. He has been president or Prime Minister for over two decades now. He knows exactly what he wants to achieve. I think he did have a strategic objective in mind here in ways that biden didnt. I think although it was a close call, i think he emerged as the bigger beneficiary out of this, simply for having had the meeting. He is an expert at deflecting issues that he doesnt want to talk about. Thats what he did during his News Conference. What he did, he did for an hour without notes, without a teleprompter, like our president. And he took questions from the american media and dealt with them, too. It was interesting. Before i let you go, ambassador, i want to get your reaction to the news that the u. S. Justice Department Today just dropped its civil and criminal proceedings against you over the release of your book. Give us your reaction. Look, i think this was a vindication of the view that i have had from the beginning that trump used the question of Classified Information purely as a pretext to try and suppress a book he did not want to come out before the November 2020 election. My book did go through a prepublication review process. It was cleared by the Expert Team that reviewed it arduously, i might say. But that wasnt enough for trump. I think we caught him. I think this decision by the Justice Department is a vindication of the Rule Of Law against what was another abuse of power by Donald Trump. Do you think this was purely the u. S. Justice department being used to seek retribution for trump, because trump hated what you wrote about him in the book . Sfw as is the case with almost everything involving trump, it was about trump and his political fortunes. I do think there are others, lawyers in the White House and some in the Justice Department, who participated in this blatant effort to suppress the book who ought to be looking at their legal ethics here. Law firms or business considering hiring them, ought to look at whether this is the kind of person they want to be associated with. Thank you so much for joining us, well continue this conversation down the road. Theyre putting a positive spin or their first Summit Meeting today. That has not always been the case when President Biden and President Putin met in the past. We t well take a look at their contentious history, thats next. They told me you cant make a boombox fly. So i built a boomboxasaurus. With code and we did it together in our live online coding class. At byjus build your own world at Byjus Futureschool. With live oneonone coding classes taught by expert teachers. Go to Byjus Futureschool dot com. Book a free Trial Class Today the world were inheriting, its in crisis. We got here after years of bad policies, climate deniers, polluters, lobbyists. But now. I do solemnly swear. Finally a president who gets it. Real leader in congress. Its our moment to tackle Climate Change and invest in cleanenergy jobs. This is about our future because if we dont stand up, if they dont act, if we let this moment pass us by, we will never get it back. Cnns Brian Todd had been looking back at bidens legacy. These are two leaders who had been adversaries for long before they trust Each Other. Emerging from their meeting in geneva. President biden did not engage when asked if he could trust Vladimir Putin. This is not about trust. Reporter biden claims he warned President Putin of cyber attack. Putin said sarcastically and they did not look at Each Others eyes. Reporter and that may have to do with the history between the two men. It was 20 years ago that Senator Justine Joe Biden issued his first warning about Vladimir Putin. I was able to get a sense of his soul. Reporter bush called the russian President Str straightforward and trust worthy. I caution this Administration Ac about Joe Biden. He did not trust putin. Reporter Ten Years After his initial warning about putin, biden met the journalist In Moscow facetoface. Biden told to that journalist, quote, i am looking into your eyes and i dont think you have a soul. Biden claimed and smiled, we underst understand Each Other. Reporter putin remembers Joe Biden visiting in georgia. Putin probably remembers biden being among the leadersleaders. Biden was asked three months ago on abc if he thinks Vladimir Putin is a killer . Uhhuh. I do. Reporter biden since dodged when asked if he thinks putin is a killer but hes not expecting putin to change his behavior after geneva. I dont think this Summit Meeting takes place at a moment where biden sees an opening to force a relationship to move beyond these troubles. Reporter the relationship is tampinger down. Both men still benefit from the meeting. Joe biden gets to look like hes not Donald Trump and hes being tough on Vladimir Putin, putin still gets to look like a Worlds Statesman which he craves. One analyst told us the fact this Meeting Ace Victory for Vladimir Putin, he gets to go home and spin this to the russian people and he gets benefits out of it. Brian todd reports for us. Thank you very much. New details of the israeli strikes on gaza. Cnns Hadas Gold has the latest from jerusalem. Reporter not even until three days of Neftalis Term and already strikes into gaza. Militants launching incendiary balloons over the border to explosive devices or just lit on fire. Sparking 20 blazes according to israel officials. Striking hamas complexes and meeting places. Materials damages but no casualties. Hamas calling the strikes a fail attempt of stopping the people solidarity. Jerusalem is ours and some are saying death to arabs. Israel gaining control of the Western Wall and Eastern Jerusalem in the 1967 war. It was rescheduled on tuesday after it was scheduled last month. The Air Strikes over night a harsher response with these incendiary balloons in the past than tolerated. More balloons launched on wednesday sparking at least four more fires according to israeli officials showing a possibility that an imminent or serious escalation could not be ruled out. Reporter The Big Question will be how and whether there the israeli military respond, a simmering situation that could boil over. Wolf . Hadas gold in jesusrusalem. I am Wolf Blitzer in geneva, Erin Burnett with outfront starts right now. Outfront next, biden and Putin Meeting facetoface. Did putin get a big boost on the worlds stage. How desperate Donald Trump was to get the doj to investigate non existing fraud and Youtube Links to Conspiracy Theories and his final days as he sought to overturn the election. We have a new president of the Southern Baptist Convention tonight. Is he quote, woke for his members . I will ask him. Lets go outfront. Good evening, i am eri

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