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Making it clear in a new oped over the weekend she will not support sweeping Legislation Or Move to eliminate the filibuster. He does support the Voting Rights act. Well have more on that. Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney shaming the gop colleagues calling Out Mccarthy and former President Trump about lying about the 2020 electiOn And down playing the violent January 6 insurrection. There was no question who was responsible then. But then, of course, Kevin Mccarthy decided to go to maralago at The End of january and it was clear we wont be able to move forward because we had leaders embracing the president who had just been impeached. Remember Mitch Mcconnell said theres other ways to investigate and stood out against a commission to investigate. Cnns chief national Affairs Correspondent Jeff Zeleny at the White House this morning. Help us understand the actual mathematical difference between the president the democrats offer and the republicans offer. The gap is wide. Reporter good morning. The gap is very wide on new spending and that is what is at issue here. We do know there is going to be another conversation with President Biden and the lead republican negotiator, the West Virginia Senator Capito and told it will be this afternoon at the White House why the president speaking with her about the latest volley back and forth but look at the numbers. This is how far they are apart. The president has gone down in his plan from 2. 25 trillion to 1. 4 trillion why the republicans up in the offer if you will to 928 Billion and the 2kgap is wi on new spending. President biden says this is called the american jobs plan for a reason. His economic agenda is really tied to all of this wanting to remake and reshape the american economy through certainly rebuilding roads and bridges but much more than that, reshaping the safety net, as well. They are far apart epa will get more of a sense if they can reach a deal or if democrats will be going it alone and Senator Yeoman Cjoe manchin at center of this. He wants a bipartisan deal but if not he could still very much Support Something that this president does so well keep our eye on this. Jim and poppy . Okay. Thank you. Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney, she is now calling former President Trumps actions ahead of the Capitol Riot the most dangerous thing a president has ever done. Cheney likens trumps continued election lies, keep in mind, still sharing them to followers, to rhetoric to the chinese communist party. This after she was voted out of leadership. Lauren fox joins us now from Capitol Hill. Cheneys next steps, to keep speaking out for sure, where do her ambitions lie . Reporter she is removed from leadership. Facing primary challenges in wyoming, a conservative state that voted for former President Trump overwhelmingly in the 2020 election. Liz cheney finding her stride as someone up here on Capitol Hill who is willing to break with trump on every turn and now also with republican leadership including the top republican in the House Kevin Mccar this i. This is what cheney said when she found out that mccarthy went to maralago a couple weeks after the January 6 insurrection. I think what Donald Trump did is the most dangerous thing, the most egregious violation of an oath of office of any president in our history so a few weeks after doing that the leader of the republicans In The House would be at maralago essentially pleading with him to somehow come back into the fold or whatever it was he was doing, to me was inexcusable. Reporter she clearly staking out the position here as upon who is not going to sit down and be quiet in the republican conference but really views herself as someone as the conscious of where the party should move and a newsy interview saying that she knew some colleagues on the second vote over impeachment voted not to impeach the former president because they were afraid about security for themselves and their families. I think that is something that has really overshadowed the dynamics up here on Capitol Hill. You have Metal Detectors go into the House Chamber at this point. I thought that point was another s salient one made by cheney in this interview. No question. Lauren fox on the hill, thank you. Joining us now to speak about this, jonathan swan, political reporter for axios. Thank you for having me. Joe manchin is very much in the center of things right now on these issues. I just wonder if he becomes seen as standing in the way more and more of key democratic priorities including with broad bipartisan support such as infrastructure, is he at risk of overplaying his political hand . Well, thats a sort of separate question. Manchin has all the cards in his hands. He is safe. A big frustration for Progressive Democrats on Capitol Hill is that they have no leverage over manchin. Theres no credible threat to him in west virginia. He is in a state that Donald Trump won by 30, 40 points, a Unicorn Democrat in that state and in a powerful position. So what you are seeing right now among democrats on Capitol Hill is this sort of bursting out of Emotion And Anger because they cant actually move him. He is completely impervious to political pressure and the anger is really starting to bubble out. Been simmering below the surface for few months and exploding now mostly over the issue of Voting Rights. Well, just case in point is the Congressman Jones tweet saying that the oped should be titled why i vote to preserve jim crow. I thought your take was smart about the progressive dam about to break. Aside from the Anger And Emotion of it what can they do it . It sounds like youre saying nothing. Thats the challenge they have. Look. Just to put that its an astonishing tweet and signals where things are headed. Jones, one of the most prominent, young progressives In The House from new york. Many people view him as someone on the rise. He came out and directly linked Joe Manchin to some of the most odious and racist laws in american history, that kind of intraparty rhetoric is another Level And Signaling where this is heading. The next sort of stage in this is what i hear when i talk to house progressives. They want to put pressure on Joe Biden to use the president ial Bully Pull Pitt to squeeze, Match And Hammer manchin to support this voting Rights Bill and all they have got. CoerciOn And Pressure And Rhetoric because nothing else he holds all the cards. So we know biden prefers a bipartisan path. He remembers working with republicans in his own time in the senate. We also know that democrats believe that Swing Voters prefer a bipartisan path on these issues including infrastructure. Given where washington is today and steps we saw taken by republicans, name a Couple Supreme Court justices and how that went down and the 2017 Tax Cut through reconciliation, are they remembering a historical washington that doesnt exist anymore today . No question. Washington that Joe Biden grew up in and he legislated in doesnt exist. I remember on the Campaign Trail he kept saying republicans will have an epiphany. It was absurd. It was completely absurd. It was never going to happen. He did say give me a chance. You guys have written me off before. He only was underestimated but the idea that he can come into washingtOn And fundamentally change the dynamics of washington through force of the Personality And Sort of Lbj Arm stroking or whatever lbj, it was never going to happen. He is confronted with that now. Jonathan, you warn us dont try to read the Tea Leaves on Joe Manchin. Thank you for letting us do that. Good to have you. Thank you. Republican Congressman Mo brooks is served with a lawsuit over the January 6 insurrection. Filed by fellow congressman Democrat Eric Swalwell to Hold Brooks partially personally responsible. It is a tactic attempted before. Whitney, has the court been notified and What Happens Next . When we were reporting this story over the weekend the court was not notified but that is imminent. It is 9 00 a. M. Now and the expectation is that the court will be notified. Brooks has 21 days to respond to the lawsuit. The attorney for Reic Swalwell on new day. Hell make whatever arguments he is going to make but we are confident that mo Brooks Speech at the rally imploring people to kick ass, make names and alluding to people dying for former President Trump we anticipated the claims will go forward and look forward to hold him accountable for his role in this deadly insurrection. Trying to tie the word said to the insurrection on Capitol Hill so trying to make that connection. But significant moment here in this lawsuit. After back and forth because the accusation was that representative brooks was dodging it but now officially served. What about the new video appearing to show an Oregon State lawmaker explaining how to get inside the State Building . This is another really big story today. Republican Representative Nearman is an Oregon State lawmaker accused of allowing protesters into the closed state capitol building. New this morning hes seen in video appearing to give insights how to access the capitol. The video which is reported by the oregon public broadcasts is posted on youtube saying it was streamed 2020. The 78minute Video shows him talking to an uninformed audience about steps to take to set up operation hall pass. It is not clear in the video if he knows that he is being recorded. He was eventually charged with misconduct and trespassing. He hasnt yet entered a plea in those charges and the attorney did not have a comment. To be clear showing two clips of video. Speaking about it appearing to say heres how to get in and then video show him opening the door . Correct . Right. Two competing videos. That is the Cctv Video and the accusation is he is leaving the building and thats when the protesters were able to run in there and had an altercation with Law Enforcement and the new video is giving a Phone Number and cnn shows is his Phone Number and what i think he thinks is linguistic gymnastics saying, well, if i would give you a Phone Number it would be this Phone Number and then the video again 78 minutes being reported by the oregon public broadcasts and will see how it shakes out, too. Believe your eyes and ears i suppose. Thank you. Still to come, another american weekend scarred by Gun Violence. At least seven, seven Mass Shootings across the country. No end in sight. The numbers are going up. Arrests made in a Road Rage Shooting in california that you may remember left a 6yearold Little Boy dead. Well have the latest on the arrests next. Also vaccinations in the u. S. Are falling pretty sharply. 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More americans died from Gun Violence in weekend as the number of Mass Shootings just keeps going up and up. At least six people killed and 43 others injured in at least 9 different Mass Shootings across the country. All sorts of Gun Violence increasing. Plus a second major incident in the Miami Area in less than a week there. Three people killed Saturday Night outside a graduation party. Headlines sadly familiar. Natasha chen has more on what really is a wave sweeping the nation. Tell us what the numbers show here and when you speak to Law Enforcement what they assign as blame for this. Reporter yeah. Just talking about numbers, looking at the one on the side of the screen. 253 Mass Shootings since the beginning of the year and a number for sure but think about how many families that is suffering. We are talking at Mass Shootings where at least four people are shot in one incident. Like you said a number of those happened this weekend. We can show you the map again of where those happened this past weekend. In chicago at least five killed, 40 wounded why friday in fruitport, michigan. On sunday in new orleans, st. Louis, Salt Lake City and cleveland. This morning in Miamidade County, a separate Dmes Ickes Incident where two people killed including a 15yearold boy. Heres the mayor of Miamidade County talking about how they address the Gun Violence. This is a national phenomenon as we emerge from the pandemic, seeing an increase in gunshots, murders across the country. Unfortunately we have not been sparing. We are sparing nothing to bring together all of the Law Enforcement agencies and our community, as well, to make sure that we identify possible places for violence. Crack down and find the shooters. Bring them to justice. Reporter these two incidents a week after a memorial Day Shooting where more than 20 people were shot. We were there to cover that and just saw the pain from the father of one of the people killed there and the County Police Director at the time told us there are additional Challenges Today compared to maybe a couple decades ago saying two things. One that the culture of not snitching and two the existence of Social Media where people post perhaps inflammatory things and exacerbating tensions and causing people to want to retaliate with violence. Interesting. So many factors. Thank you very much. A major development in the investigation of a suspected Road Rage Shooting in california. One of the saddest stories in rec recent weeks. Aiden Anthony Leos hit by Gun Fire in his Booster Seat as his mother drove him to kinder garter. Lets go to Josh Campbell in Los Angeles this morning. I think my daughter is said when am i old enough for the booster . Look at that on the way to school. Reporter it shows you yet another place in america no longer safe on the freeway taking the child to school. That happening last month. Suspected Road Rage is what authorities are saying but a major development over the weekend. The California Highway Patrol announcing two people are taken into custody, Marcus Anthony Eriz and winne lee. Cnn is attempting to locate information for both of them but just describe this sad incident. A Mother Driving down the freeway taking the kid to school. Aiden sitting in a Booster Seat and what authorities say the suspected incident. Someone opened fire. Aiden was hit and later died at the hospital and started a massive investigation. The head speaking out after the arrest. A portion of the statement saying while the arrests will not ease the pain of a Mothers Loss my hope is for the family to rest assured the chp will work with the orange County District Attorney to bring justice for aiden. Over the weekend theres a Memorial Service held. Members of the community coming out. Heard from the Family Members speaking out about the incredible Little Boy. Take a listen. Everywhere we went he would greet people with a vibrant, hello, im aiden. What is your name . This is the worst pain of my life. Knowing that he is happy dancing in heaven away from the pain and the suffering of the world helps me get up every day we see as natasha mentioned this Gun Violence over and over. The numbers due to the prevalence of guns in this country and ill note on Friday Night a controversial riling here in california by a federal judge overturning the States Assault Weapons Ban. Groups celebrated that. Gun control groups said that this is an abominatiOn And see so much violence and you have to wonder with aiden leos if the suspects had had a gun or a knife versus a gun he would probably still be alive and that Judge Compared Firearms to knives that causing so much controversy. Yeah. Like a swiss Army Knife, the actual quote from that federal judge. Josh campbell, thank you. The infrastructure talks seemingly at a stand still again. Maybe there might be movement. The president set to speak with the key Negotiator Today but how long will they wait . Markets close soon. Another record, u. S. Oil prices hit 70 a barrel On Sunday for the first time in three year just demand is going up as the Economy Heats up. Average Gas Prices above 3 a gallon up from 2 a gallon a year ago and keeping an eye on it all. Stay with us. Hey, dad hey, son no dad, its a video call. You got to move the phone in front of you like. Like its a mirror, dad. You know . Alright, okay. Hows that . Is that how you hold a mirror . [ding] Power E Trade gives you an awardwinning Mobile App with powerful, easytouse tools and interactive charts to give you an edge, 24 7 support when you need it the most and 0 commissions for online u. S. Listed stocks. Dont get mad. Get E Trade and start trading today. 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You have got the republicans that want about 300 Billion if new spending. Thats a really big gap but you have got even liberals, democrats like Larry Summers who suggest repurpose money of covid relief to states and repurpose that for part of the infrastructure spending. Why shouldnt unused Covid Relief Money be used toward infrastructure . It certainly should but thats not the irs at hand. How much are we going to spend on the elements of the Infrastructure Program . How much money do we really need to rebuild the freeways, roads and streets . How much money do we really need to enhance our public transportation systems, amtrak and you go piece by piece, add up each piece and you would find out that what we spent in the past is woefully inadequate so theres the new money. Where will we get the new money . Theres unspent money because biden is successful in getting the Vaccination Programs rolled out and that is allowed the economy to reopen much faster than anticipated. It seems like you are open to compromise. You are in a state that is enjoying given the markets more than 75 Billion budget surplus. It just seems like this is a place where you could come together so what is your message to other democrats that may not there have been letters to the biden administration saying dont use this Surplus Money that states have right now towards infrastructure and seems like you are saying, yes, do. Im saying the legislation before us is how much money do we need to spend on specific Infrastructure Programs, broadband, research programs, how much money do we need to rebuild the grid and we mst also go green. We have to have a green electrical system in america. You come up with old money that is how much we have already spent and how much more do we need to spend . Thats one side of the equation. The other side is what they are talking about. Where do you get the money . Theres unspent money from the covid relief programs. All the way back and certainly on the rescue program. That money can then be used to pay for the new expenditures for infrastructure. So there really are two sides to the equation. One is where you get the money. You can get it from unspent money in the covid relief. And the other side of the equation is how much do we need to spend to build a modern Infrastructure Program in america that provides for future economic growth and social justice. I wonder, because you have said in recent days, essentially and Pra Pa ra phrasing, if we have to go it alone as democrats we will and you know to do that you need all 50 senators in the other chamber of democrats. It is not clear at all now that you have Joe Manchin as a yes on something with no republican support. Its very interesting. There is republican support. The senate is about to put out maybe this week certainly a very significant infrastructure bill. It has to do with building the american manufacturing sector. Research programs. Money for Darpa And Research programs. All of those things in that bill. How much of that is new money . I dont know for sure but some of it is. And republicans and democrats are going to put that out. Probably with 70 , 80 of senators voting for it. On the House Side we will be taking up the Surface Transportation Bill wednesday, thursday of this week. Well mark it up. I would expect to see republicans voting for that because theyre got road problems, transportation problems, bridges that need to be built. If they dont then yes we can put that bill out of the House Of Representatives without republican support. Rather not do that. Also a lot of republican earmarks in that bill. It will be interesting to see if the republicans vote against the earmark. Perhaps they will. Congressman, i do want to switch topics and talk about Gun Violence in america. We just had reporting from Natasha Chen and Josh Campbell that sweet 6yearold Boy Aiden killed in your state. Look. You have this federal judge ruling in california on friday that overturned the States Assault Weapons Ban saying its unconstitutional. Heres what it reads. Like the swiss Army Knife the popular ar15 is a perfect come by nation of a Home Defense Equipment good for home and battle. And then he points to two supreme court decisions saying california makes it a crime to have this rifle, therefore this court declares california statutes to be unconstitutional. You wrote the california assaults Weapon Ban in 1989 after that heorrific Mass Shooting in stockton that killed fiver children, wounded 29 others. What do you do now in california . We stay the course. It is absolutely crazy what this judge is saying. The Assault Weapon is designed to assault an enemy position. Thats what it is. It is designed to throw out a whole lot of lead in a very, very rapid way and kill people. Thats what it is. Home defense . That is stupid. This weapon is used in every way except home defense. It is used to kill hundreds of people. Think about las vegas. Think about El Paso and here in california. Aurora, park larnd, san bernardino. On and On And on. It is a sick decisiOn And we have to fight back. There ought to be a national law. There was in the entire decade of the 90s. Was an assault Weapons Ban and expired. We have to have this. This is not a home defense. This is an Assault Weapon to kill people. Not in the not to defend your home. Just one incident in this weapon to defend a home. We cannot allow these weapons to be on the streets. You see folks on the streets carrying these weapons. It is wrong. It is deadly. It is murderous and it has to current law in california has to stand. Yes, i did write the original bill. The leadership of the California State Senate took it over and came Law And Senator feinstein enacted a national law. We can be a much safer america without this weapon. With this weapon, none of us are safe. Hundreds will die. Theyll take it into a form which they already have and randomly shoot and kill dozens and dozens of people. Congressman, you are a current Gun Owner and have been most of your life. I grew up on the ranch and yes, i am a Gun Owner. Right. More context for people to have. Thank you for your time this morning. Thank you. A class Ified Report on the origins of coronavirus. Several probes into that lab in wuhan, china. Was that the source . A quick programming note. President obama joins Anderson Cooper about his Life Postpresidency and the special on father, Leadership And Legacy tonight at 8 00 p. M. Eastern time. Listen. Thats the sound of organic beer being grown. Michelob ultra pure gold. Organic by nature. Birds flyin high, you know how i feel. Breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. Its a new dawn. If youve been taking copd sitting down, its time to make a stand. Start a new day with trelegy. No oncedaily Copd Medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. 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We have talked about among the vaccine hesitant in the country you have folks very strongly opposed to the vaccine and others just enthusiastic and the biden administration is focusing on the second group there. Reaching out to gps, personal doctors. They listen to them orr say a government health official. Is that strategy working and is that the right strategy . Jim, it is going to be really hard to know what strategy is going to work. I suspect it is more than one strategy. I think clearly reaching out to the people you trust the most is most important, whether thats the gp, going your neighbor or the fireman who sits in church with you On Sundays. You really need to find whats the right trusted messenger but as we see cases come down nationwide, a lot of people are asking themselves why should i be vaccinated . Rates of infection among those unvaccinated are still pretty high so unvaccinated person is at high risk of getting covid. Can you talk about why that matters . Some State Leaders pointed to 70 as an arbitrary number and doesnt look like we will hit that unless something changes dramatically. Why does it matter so much . Poppy, because, again, the more people up susceptible to an infection the more likely you will have spread and coming out of india the Delta Variant and others rapidly spreading you want to limit the pool of susceptible individuals as much as possible and the currently available vaccines are highly effective to prevent you from getting infected with the variants in circulatiOn And to be prepared is to be protected. The more we learn about the origins of the covid19, there are many democrats and republicans have been briefed on this who at least find the Lab Leak Theory credible. Today. There are a whole host of political side issues to that. What is the importance from the Health Standpoint of knowing that . Does it help you respond beyond the irresponsibility if it is true of the chinese government lying about this. I think pathogens, high risk pathogens leaving labs is not the first time it happens and not necessarily could be totally accidental and dealing with this pathogen and labs and potentially has happened with many or pathogens in the path why the most important thing is to prevent it from happening again in the future. And it talks about the importance of scientific cooperation but also of transparency. If you cannot have transparency it is hard to prevent it from happening again. Yeah. Thank you. Quite a headline. Jeff bezos, the ceo, finder of amazon is headed to space for real. Just days after he steps down as the head of amazon he will be on a literal rocket. Next. Hey lily, i need a new Wireless Plan for my business, but all my employees need something different. Oh, we can help with that. Okay, imagine this. Your mover, rob, hes on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot. 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Wish i was on this flight here on the Passenger List. But Bezos Easand the coolest Gi Choosing to bring his brother on this historic first crude flight of their new shepard space vehicle, theyre spacecraft. This is a suborbital flight. It will go 60 mile above earth. Theyll have a few minutes of weightlessness. The bezos, you know, you founded his Aerospace Company more than 20 years ago. The company has been working on their new Shepard System for more than six years. It is set take flight on july 20th, the anniversary of apollo 11s moon landing. Poetic there. Talk about what he talked about actualizing on his life long journey to get to space. You see the earth from space and it changes you. It changes your relationship with this planet, with humanity. Its one earth. I want to go on this flight because its a thing i wanted to do all my life. Its an adventure. Its a big deal for me. I invited my brother to come on this first flight. I wasnt even expecting him to say he was going to be on the first flight. And then when he asked me to go along, i was just awestruck. Seriously . If youre willing. In you want to. Oh, my god. So, poppy, Blue Origin is auctioning off an additional seat. The going price is 2. 8 million. Thats a little too pricey for me. But for Space Enthusiasts out, there you pos too can be in that spacecraft on this historic journey. My gift to you, Chu Chute yo. The next christmas, hey, i took you to space. Thats right, why i do care . You got me this sweater. Rachael crane, when you tell us how to get on that flight, please do come back on the show. Thanks very much. Still ahead, next hour, right now Vice President Kamala Harris is on a three Day Tour threw Guatemala And Mexico trying acress the core issues behind immigration surge. Well be live next. Lactaid is 100 real milk, just without the lactose. So you can enjoy it even if youre sensitive to dairy. 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