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Top of the hour. I am victor blackwell. I am alisyn camerota. How to get the gop onboard, and the president is reportedly offering to forego his propose towel immediately raise the corporate Tax Rate after republicans said it would cross their lines to make changes to the 2017 tax law. Joining us is Manu Raju and kaitlan collins, and kaitlan, first to you. How far have they gotten on negotiations . They are still pretty far apart. They are still about three times the new spending that the republicans had in their latest counteroffer. The question is whether they are going to come up and how high they would come up, because the White House said if hes willing to go lower than 1 Trillion in the new spending. And what could be the Sticking Point is how to actually pay for this. What we are told by sources is that in this Meeting Yesterday President biden did float the idea of foregoing the idea of immediately raising the Tax Rate from 21 to 28 as he initially put forward because Thats Something the republicans said they are not onboard with, and the idea that President Biden brought this up in the Meeting Yesterday seems to be an acknowledgment is that they realize the republicans are not going to be getting onboard if they move forward with that plan as to pay for this infrastructure plan. And theres a conversation happening, and whether or not there are deadlines happening with the White House, and this is what the White House said earlier today when we asked about potential deadlines. Does he see monday as kind of the deadline for any major breakthroughs on where these talks are going . No. Hes going to continue to have conversations with democrats and republicans about what the path forward may look like. Certainly its an important its an important moment in the timeline, of course, because there will be movement then. We have seen Speaker Pelosi Talk about how she wants to move forward with infrastructure in june, and schumer has talked about how he wants to move forward with infrastructure in july. The president is not here to set new deadlines. She said they are not here to set new deadlines. We know democrats have put deadlines on this and said they Want To see more movement. And some democrats urging the White House to move on if there are no major breakthroughs in the coming days. Manu, you are in West Virginia and you are covering Senator Manchin and he plays a role in all of this, and has he weighed in . He is calling for the bipartisan talks to continue, and its a 50 50 senate and in order to move legislation in the senate, if the democrats Want To move along Party Lines they need Joe Manchin to go along here, and one of the things he called for is for the talks to continue before he decides to embrace the idea of cutting out the republicans and allow the bill to advance among all 50 democratic senators, and its unclear whether or not he would be open to move forward on a democratonly strategy if the talks with the republicans dont pan out. Hes working on a separate group to try and cut a deal, some sort of bipartisan deal, a scaled Back Version of what the republicans are talking about here, and will the White House even go for that. Thats an open question. No doubt hes a key player to watch in all of this, because if he does green light a democratic only strategy, thats the way the dems will go. What is this about the senates efforts to investigate January 6th . What does it include and not include . Its going to be a Big Week next week, and its going to be the first major authoritative report, and its coming from two key committees with the Break Downs and the failure to share intelligence, and why the national guard took so long to secure the building on that day, and its a narrow focus, and the scope is on those particular security issues. Its supposed to set the Ground Work for Funding Legislation and to beef up security at the capitol. What it does not do is look at the role of donald trump, about his efforts to try and subvert the election and promote the January 6th rally, and things he said at the event and the role other republicans played to try and overturn the elections on January 6th, giving false hope to the trump supporters that stormed the capitol that day, that is not part of this investigation is that expected to come out in more than 100 pages next week, and thats only going to fuel the debate if theres further investigations, and thats what democrats want but republicans say this is enough. Thank you both. The White House is ready to ship millions of unused vaccine doses here in the u. S. To countries that desperately need them. The caribbean, southeast asia, africa, south and central america. Those are among the first places to receive these donated vaccines. These 80 Million doses represent 13 of the total vaccines produced by the united states by The End of this month. We will continue to donate vaccinations across the summer months, and so the second part of our approach is working with u. S. Vaccine manufacturers to vastly increase Vaccine Supply for the rest of the world in a way that also creates jobs here at home. Cnns senior medical correspondent, Elizabeth Cohen is here with more details. How is the White House deciding where to send the vaccines . To the places that need them the most. Lets look at where these doses are going. 19 Million of them will go to an organization called covax, and that will send those 6 Million to latin america and the caribbean, and 7 Million to asia, and 5 Million to africa, and 6 Million will be shared directly with countries in need. So many of the countries need vaccines, and things are so much better here in the u. S. In the past few months, and hopefully the same thing will happen when these countries get their vaccines. Theres bipartisan support for sharing vaccines, and how is everybody in america feeling about that . Well, we have plenty of vaccine in the country, and its not hard to find it. Nobody is wanting for vaccine, so this is a survey that looked by political party, and this is a Kaiser Survey and they looked by political party, how do you feel about the u. S. Playing a major role in Distributing And Sharing vaccines . Democrats said, you know, 88 of them said, yeah, that sounds like a good idea to me, and 65 of independents said that and only 41 of republicans said they thought it was a good idea for the u. S. To be playing that sharing role. Its unfortunate. Because first of all, it helps the people there, and it helps save lives directly, and you can look at it selfishly, and it helps us, and theres less Chance A Variant will develop and come back and bite us, and its possible the more covid spreads and spreads and spreads, you get the variants that could defy the vaccine and well be in trouble, so in order to stop that give other people the vaccines. And polls also suggest a larger share of republicans dont Want To take the vaccine, and they dont Want To share it . Pick your position. But never mind that. A little birdie just told us that its your 30year anniversary at cnn. Were you a Child Prodigy . I am so lucky to have spent three decades at this wonderful network with fabulous colleagues such as yourself. Yes, june 3rd, 1991 was my first day, and here i still am, and it has been my honor to deliver medical news. There must be cake somewhere for this. 30 years theres got to be something. We were told theres a c case cake. 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With live oneonone coding classes taught by expert teachers. Go to Byjus Futureschool dot com. Book a free Trial Class Today Congressman Matt Gaetz is facing more legal trouble. Cnn learned the Florida Republican is under investigation for a potential attempt to obstruct justice. Sources say investigators were told gaetz and associates discussed a plan last fall to talk to his girlfriend about the federal sex crime investigation. After two months theres still not a single on Record Accusation of misconduct, and gaetz has not been charged with any wrong doing and denied Sex Trafficking and prostitution allegations. Here to talk about this development as part of our two to four things legal addition, joey jackson, and Ely Honic On Set with us. Good to be here. Ely, if Congressman Gaetz had a Phone Conversation is that on its face a Obstruction Of Justice . No, however theres a very fine line here. If you get into any type of suggestion, you may Want To say it this way, or make sure your story has this detail, and leave that out, and Thats Obstruction of justice. Contextually, how big of a deal is this . Its not something at The End of the day you can hold a Person Account Blg for just reaching out to somebody, and we avoid doing that because theres gray areas involved. But remember this, victor and alisyn, you want the government, if they have the goods on the case, they have the goods on the case and you dont Want To add to that by insnaring yourself in an instance when you did nothing wrong. What you do is you have to be very careful. Theres a lot here, we know about greenburg and the friend of gaetz that we thought was the target but he is cooperating. Exactly. He is a friend and he himself took some type of daeal, and i dont think he has any credibility, and if you match that with records and other information, it could be problematic. Lets move on to what is happening with the capitol rioters. One has plead guilty now. Tell me what hes looking at and what it means for the host of other people who are being investigated and charged . This is going to be called message sentencing. Its going to be up to the judge where he comes out on this. If the judge sentences this person to time behind bars, it will send a message, and this defendant that took the plea, hes not charged with the most serious conduct. He did not plead to destruction of property, and he was charged with obstructing congress. Serious, but theres going to be a real message behind this. Nothing violent here . Right. Are you expecting the men and women who were charged will be taking deals, most of them . The vast majority of federal trials, 80 and up result in convictions and if that happens you really get the book thrown at you. They end of the day you take pleas because its more federal, and backing up a little bit, what happens in this instance, you have video that accounts for every action that you have taken, and so its a credit to the fbi to have investigated and bring people to accountability, and everybody should be accountable in what they did, and if they engaged in acts of violence, they shouldnt and if they if they did, they should. He came in the outfit if anybody wonders these were trump supporters . And not dressed like a normal tourists, like one of the congress members said. Yeah, time served and probation in this case. Is that plausible at all . Its not. Its quite frankly, offensive. Lets look at the reality. Not only are we dealing with an instance relating to the murder, relating to doing it with a depraved heart, relating to his criminality in being negligent and everything else, but the judge found what we call aggravating circumstances. Like what . When you engage in a crime and there happens to be children there, that increases the penalty. When you are heinous with respect to your attitude in a crime, that increases the penalty. And when you do it with a gang of people it increases it. The Guideline Sentence would have been 12 1 2, but with the aggravating factors, he could face as many as 30 and 40 years, and now you are suggesting he gets probation . Consider your background and consider Conduct And Everything who i am, and you are not as bad as you are on your worst day or good as you are on your best day. Thank you so much. Great to see you guys. Next, israeli prime Minister Netanyahu is fighting for his political future after an unprecedented deal on his rival political parties. Thats next. Some say this is my greatest challenge. Governments in record debt; inflation rising, currencies falling. But ive seen centuries of this. With one companion that hedges the risks you choose and those that choose you. 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Its probably not likely to hold for very long because the thing that unites these folks is that they Want To get netanyahu out. They are very profound ideological provisions here between palestinians and Naftali Bennett, and hes more right wing than netanyahu, and so i think that theres a sense of optimism about potentially getting netanyahu out especially because he was threatening the Rule Of Law in his Corruption Case by trying to avoid prosecution, but its hard to imagine this coalition could last for that long. If it does not last and gets through the first two years of Naftali Bennetts leadership, then what happens then . Well, supposedly at that point it will rotate to Yair Lapid, and his party got more votes and he needed bennett to form a government. I think its dubious it would get that far, and its hard to know how this government would act on common issues. Theres so many very important issues on which the people in this government fundamentally disagree. Lets say there would be another round of violence as we saw over the past few weeks. The people in this government would have completely different views about how to respond to that. It seems to me theres only a small narrow diagram on things that they actually agree on. We have seen in the last weeks and months the conflict between Israel And Gaza does not work on a political calendar. These deifferent parts wont focus on the israel palestinian issues, but they would focus on the infrastructure and economy. Is that realistic . I dont think thats realistic. Its easy for the israeli politicians to say we will just ignore the palestinian for sure, and they do not have the right to vote for the government, and they are lacking basic rights so it may be easy for Naftali Bennett and Yair Lapid to say lets just not focus on them, right, but they are going to try and get Israels Attention some way or another, as would any other group of people who are being denied basic human rights. Sooner or later i think the government would have to respond to that. So Benjamin Netanyahu said the reporting is that hes not going to go down without a struggle. What are his options, if any . What i think he would try to do is peel off some of the rightwing members, and he would say you cant go into a coalition that would include the Defact Yo Support of a arab palestinian party, and it will destroy your political career because you are abandoning the right, and thats the play they are making and you have time to do that, and i think so far the leaders of this coalition have shown that such a desperation to get rid of netanyahu and not go to a fifth election, which would happen if this coalition didnt work, that they are holding together for the moment. We have new video of defense u. S. Secretary Lloyd Austin meeting with the israeli defense minister. What does this now change mean for the u. S. , as you have up first a hard right leader and considering the criticism that the White House got over the last couple of weeks about its handling of the conflict, its lack of simply calling for a ceasefire, what does this change mean for the u. S. . I think its going to exacerbate the movement of what we have seen, in saying, wait, theres a total disconnect here. The united states keeps supporting a Twostate Solution with a Palestinian State, and you have Naftali Bennett who is more opposed to the idea of a Palestinian State, and so if thats really americas policy to support the Palestinian Statehood, we have to be in conflict with the israeli government. If we are just going to accept bennetts agenda, it means its bogus and the united states was not supporting a Palestinian State and the people on the left may think beyond that towards supporting one equal state, which is israel, the West Bank and gaza. 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From a world champion ultimate fighter turned mayor pro tem, to a State Representative pushing a Deep State conspiracy. Pedophile Network Qanon Conspiracy embracing candidates are Making Headway In National Races and local races across america. Theres a higher rate of candidates embracing qanon and its tenants now than there was last cycle, at least at this point. Media matters tracks qanons political clout and their research shows the January 6th insurrection did not kill it, it emboldened it, and for the 2022 races, listen to arizona State Representative. Theres a lot of people involved in a Pedophile Network and the distribution of children, and unfortunately theres a whole lot of elected officials that are involved in that. The conservative News Anchor may not have challenged him but some of his constituents have, and they were shocked by the tweet he sent on January 6th while outside the capitol. Unlike hundreds of others he said he never entered the building, and hes now running to become arizonas top election official, Secretary Of State. Some are all for it. The term Conspiracy Theory is used to ridicule good ideas. Others are set dead against it . Somebody like him being in charge of elections holding a seat like Secretary Of State is one of the most dangerous things that could happen to democracy. We Want To give him a chance to explain his beliefs but our calls and emails were not returned so we waited outside the state house. He is one of the last cars in the parking lot, and now the security for the legislature is now driving his car away. 2,000 miles away in the small michigan town of grand blank, a firsttime School Board Member is under fire for Social Media posts saying things like qanon confirmed by trump, and they can delete our Social Media and they can never stop our spirit or what is coming, god wins. As a High School and firsttime voter, Lucas Heartwell did his homework and discovered her now deleted post. If we cannot have an Education System that is run by people who care about the truth, what is education . He and others want her to resign, but some parents support her 100 . Shes a conservative so they are attacking her. You think its along political lines and has nothing to do with qanon . Exactly. I think part of it is real. We wanted to ask her what she believed. She did not respond to our request for an interview, but she was at the school board meeting. You have a Big Q Burning On Fire and says we are pissed, and is that something you believed in when you posted it . I dont remember that tweet. And there are several others, and you dont believe in humancaused climate change, is that also true . I believe that science is a method and not a Belief System and that this adherence that you have to believe scientists is more of, like, a religious cult. You dont mask the healthy, you mask the sick. In huntington beach, california, its the science of covid called into the conspiracy. Are you thinking covid19 was a little bit of a Conspiracy Theory . Dont get me started. Thats former ufc champion, ortiz, and he is getting widespread support for being a political disrupter. He seemed to me to be somebody who i thought might mix things up for us and change things around. Hes mixing things up, by spending lots of time spewing and posting conspiracy theories. And less time dealing in Policy And Council business. Well, the first day when he was sworn in, he referred to the pandemic as a plandemocratic. He also refused to a mask, nor did he want his children to wear a mask to school. The boys will not be wearing their masks today, and well see what they say. It all came to a head just this week as the first Inperson Council Meeting this january. After just five months on the City Council, ortiz resigned effective immediately. Oh, my gosh, and Sara Sidner joins us now. When you are trying to confront them and reach out and talk to them and enter them and they dont Want To, and that School Board Member, was she trying to say she was not a Qanon Supporter once you found her . What you often get is a nebulous answer, and they will not confirm or deny it fully. They will say things like i have an open mind, or i dont remember that and then you start to ask about the conspiracy itself and they confirm some of the tenants of the conspiracy itself. What i found really telling with tito ortiz, and Nobody Nobody had any idea that he was going to resign that day. We were the only camera crew, and it was supposed to be a regular City Council meeting. He asked to have a statement, and he read it and everybody looked at each other, and what he said in his statement was that his family was being threatened and nobody should be threatening anybodys family, but if you look at what they have done over time, and they are the ones, him and his girl friend, they put their children fullfaced easy to so on Social Media for thousands of people to see publicly, and refusing to wear a mask. When california was going through a horrible time when people are dying by the hundreds a day, and putting that out on Social Media so they can be ridiculed. They did that on their own children putting them right in the middle of this debate that they are having, and so this has been really difficult to watch how some of these candidates and some of the people getting into office i do Want To mention one thing, there were about 19 candidates who were running for congress this is not local or state who have espoused some of the qanon talk, and what is happening is the people who Follow Qanon are fervent and a group of people that are suddenly there to support you if you give any kind of inkling you might be interested, and they raise money, they raise a lot of money, and thats why this is seeping into politics. We have seen that from marjorie taylor greene. Heres what i dont get about q, and they said the storm was coming, and it didnt come, and why are they still holding on if they say this Big Day is coming several times has not come . Is that the milliondollar question. What has happened is every time one of these conspiracies does not come true, and the first one was Hillary Clinton was going to be arrested in the next couple of days, and never happened. What happens is the Deep State has caught on to us, and now they morph. What happened in november during the election, stop the steal, that whole rally, that helped them say, you see, the Deep State even they know, because they are not part of qanon, and even they know the Deep State is in on this and try and stop it from happening and President Trump is really the president. They are able to morph constantly and thats why its able to continue to grow. So glad you are highlighting that. Up next, the Minneapolis Square that has been the site of George Floyd memorials and protests the last year is opening back up to traffic, and the city says its time but the activist who have been gathering there say they were blindsided by this move. At aspen dental, Today Is The Day to take back your smile. 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Now to minneapolis where City Officials are reopening the area known as George Floyd square. For more than a year the intersection of 38th and chicago was surrounded by barricades and occupied by activists who transform the area into an unsanctioned memorial site. Now, in a surprise move, City Officials have begun clear ing out the corridor, reopening it to traffic and normal operations. The mayor says it can still honor floyds legacy. The foundation of community healing, Celebration And Gathering that has been created in beautiful fashion at 38th and chicago over this last year must continue. This can be a critical location of gathering not just for our city, but for the entire world, and through a phased recon reconnection, we can also find a way to provide the necessary social services and City Service that has been missing at times over this last year. We can make sure that patrons are able to visit their local business, and have full access. Cnns Adrian Broadus is here now. How is this decision going over . Reporter you know what, victor . This is division among the divided community. For example, one gentleman says he wants to see that intersection reopen and the area at 38th and chicago get back to what he calls normal, but on the other hand, he said he wants that area preserved, especially after some of the healing he says he has witnessed over the last year. When we heard from the citys mayor, jacob frey, in the last hour, he said the Citys Goal is to preserve that space. For example, the mayor says they will work their hardest to make sure tires never run over the area where George Floyd was killed. The mayor also says hes not giving an exact timeline at this hour but is concerned about businesses in the area. Some of those Business Owners say their business has suffered. Now, City Leaders and some members of the community have been in discussion for at least the last six to eight months. I spoke with a local pastor earlier this morning who said he has talked to the mayor, the chief of police and other Community Leaders about reopen ing the area. By contrast, some in the community say when City Crews showed up this morning, removing those barricades, they were surprised. Listen in. People tell us, you know, you had a year. No one seems to take into consideration that even in the midof our activism, just maybe, just maybe that we might be black people grieving, too. And that maybe, just maybe that the cross is heavy to bear. Reopening the streets does not help our community to heal. The reopen ing at 38th and chicago, an intersection known beyond the twin cities, quite frankly an intersection known around the world. The reopening has started. Barricades were put in place by members of the community. I Want To share the mayor said some of the Art Work thats there along with the Solidarity Fist at the area that has been dubbed as George Floyd square will remain. Back to you. Sounds like this will be a tough transition, obviously, Ada Adrienne adrienne, Youll Keep watching if for us. Guardian newspaper uncovered a trove of old records from buckingham palace. What they reveal and what the palace is saying now. Ss, we must keep taking steps forward. We believe the future of energy is lower carbon. And to get there, the world needs to reduce global emissions. At chevron, were taking action. Tying our executives pay to lowering the carbon Emissions Intensity of our operations. Its tempting to see how far weve come. But its only human. To know how far we have to go. More trouble for britains Royal Family after the Guardian Newspaper dug up old records showing a history of racial discrimination at buckingham palace. The documents from The National Archives revealed the palace banned, quote, colored immigrants or foreigners from holding clerical positions until at least the 1960s. They were, however, allowed to be domestic servants. The palace told cnn in a statement that secondhand conversations from over 50 years ago should not be used to draw modern day comparisons. It adds significance after Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan came forward that they had experienced racism inside what they call the firm. Back in march, the Royal Family said it was considering hiring a Diversity Chief but that has not happened as of yet. It sounds like they need to really fill that position. Watch this space. The lead with jake tapper, starts now. Some americans need to be bribed with beer, but other nations, theyre desperate for the vaccine. The lead starts right now. A proposal to try to help heal the world. President biden announcing 80 Million vaccines will be sent out of the united states to overseas. Who is going to get them, and how soon . The Sham Recount going on by trump supporters in arizona. Even more of a cluster than we thought. Who is even looking at your ballot . 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