Good. Im just going to add to it. I think they should do what you and i do and thats talk with someone. When you talk with someone, that means youre doing a whole lot of listening as well, and youre learning. I know were saying the same thing, but i think we need to talk with each other, not at each other, not about each other. I think we need to be in relationships with people who dont look like us, who have Nothing In Common with us, who dont share the same religion as us. I tell you about it all the time. I dont Pay Attention to Social Media. I know people are out there, and theyre like, oh, you know, theyre just a story would be that someone said or did something controversial, and Social Media didnt Blow Up or have a hissy fit. Now, that would be a Breaking News story. So whenever i see reporters or reports about, oh, my gosh, twitter went into a tizzy about theres a cheap aspect to the media. People are lazy, and its easy because theres a proxy for insight on that. They can take 5,000 people on twitter and make it sound as though theres a national movement. But i do think a big part of the division and a big part of the disconnect in how were being really manipulated by the fringe in this country right now. Youre right. Is because of this difference in the prepositional understanding of dealing with human beings. Yeah. Where if youre talking about somebody, its very easy to be negative. Its very easy to be pejorative. If youre talking to or with, as you say, its a different situation. Yeah. And there is no hope for the way we are right now. Youre seeing it tonight in real time. Yeah. They wont even study how people came to attack them. Yeah, which is very important. Listen, you and i have these conversations, and they get very intense, and they should be. Thats how people talk to each other. Thats how Family Talks to each other. Last night John Kasich and i i love john. Hes great. But we have very tough conversations sometimes, and i think you should treat people who you are in friendship with or a Family Member with, you should have those conversations the way that you have at a dinner table, a barbecue, a picnic, and you say, man, you are crazy. Now give me that rib. You no he what im saying . Not everybody look, you should be respectful, but theres no you dont have to polite and tiptoe around things. I say, chris, wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It helps you find the connective tissue. Theres a stat that really bothers me. 70 of the american people agree on the main priorities. Well, then why the hell are we so divided . A little bit of that is the fridgification. Fringification. But its also because peoples Social Media, youre not around. Youre not confrontation with. You dont have that moment with, why do you want to take away my second Amendment Right . Im like, i dont know. Im a Gun Owner. Theyre like, what do you mean im a Gun Owner . Why do you own the gun . To shoot somebody if they try to hurt me or mine. I dont even hunt. Then all of a sudden, theyre like, i didnt know that. Or with me. Why are you so antipolice . Im like, no, im not antipolice. Then during the insurrection when i had Michael Fanone and Officer Dunn on, harry dunn, theyre like, when did you become propolice . Ive always been propolice. I just want better policing. I want it all to be better. I just dont want people being harmed for no reason or the brutality. But ive always been propolice. Same thing with the second amendment. Look, i grew up in louisiana. Everybody i knew had a gun. My sister carried a gun and my aunt carried guns in their purses. My mom would say, dont goe nea her purse. But i tell you one thing, though. Even with that when i was a kid, for christmas, no guns. Youll shoot your eye out. No. No, like, toy guns. Like cowboys and indians, no. My mom got one for christmas. My dad took it. Nope. Once when i put i grabbed the gun. I didnt realize. I was a kid, because my dad owned businesses, and i grabbed a gun. And my Dad Talk about knocking you into like to the moon. Thats scary. Thats scary for an adult to see that with their kid. But i grew up with guns everywhere. Youre anti no, im not. Theres too much about and not enough to or with. Especially on memorial, its such a confusing one. Everybody says happy memorial day. Well, what am i supposed to say . Have a good one . Whats good about remembering the dead . Thats why this started off by just putting poppies on graves after World War I. Obviously it started after the Civil War, but decoration day, putting poppies because poppies can grow anywhere. Thats the point. We can get to a better place because good intentions and progress can come from anywhere. You just have to want it, and that is honoring the sacrifice. Doing what you can to make it better. Yes. I tell you what we can do to make it better now is get out, enjoy the progress that weve made with the vaccine, see our Loved Ones, respect if people have issues with masks. Respect them but also believe in the science. You dont have to wear the mask if youre outside. Get out and enjoy your family. Im going to see you. Ill enjoy if the weather holds up. Fingers crossed. Ill see you anyway. Then ill have to be inside with you, with i is really an issue. So i love you. I cant wait to see you this weekend. I cant wait to im going to have a summer like i was a 12yearold. Ive made that pledge. Good. Knock wood. Live your life. Barefoot and Everything. Eat whatever i want. Do whatever i want. You only get one chance. I wish everybody watching your show, your allelegion fans, tha they make good memories this weekend. This is don lemon tonight. Thanks for watching, everyone. We have Breaking News to tell you about because were going to take you live to the capitol right now. Thats where the Vote America has been waiting for is coming now at any moment. Well get you live pictures there in just a bit. The vote on the commission. There it is. Live pictures of the capitol. The vote on the commission tasked with telling the truth of what happened right there at the capitol on January 6th. Reporter apparently a Dark Cloud of amnesia generated by willful Ignorance And Cowardice has descended on the senate. Maybe we should remind them. Maybe we should remind them this is what that day was like. Thats what it was like. The day well never forget. The day we all watched in horror as violent rioters ran wild at the united states capitol, the seat of our democracy, hunting lawmakers, fighting Police Officers, trying to stop the certification of the vote for Joe Biden. And then tonight at that same capitol, it seems like republicans are going to show us in no uncertain terms that they lack the guts to do what is right. Theyre going to kill that January 6th commission before it has even begun. Live pictures now of the Senate Floor. The senate majority whip, dick durbin, says that the vote will happen tonight. But as it gets later and later, you got to wonder whether republicans are hoping to hide their cowardice under the cover of darkness. Last night i asked a question. Okay. That question was, are there ten republican senators who will defend democracy . Are there ten republican senators who will defend democracy . I said that i thought i knew the answer, but i hope that i was wrong. Well, you would think that the Grieving Mother of officer Brian Sicknick going to the capitol to speak to republican senators Face To face, you would think that would matter. The same people he lost his life defending, and even faced with a mother who has lost so much, they still Cant Step up and do the right thing for her and for the people they were elected to serve. This was to uphold the constitution, and right now i dont think theyre doing it. Hmm. I can only imagine if that was my mother. Imagine if it was your mother, your brother, your son. Sources telling cnn those meetings were very hard for mrs. Sicknick. She reportedly asked how they cannot do the right thing. Capitol Hill Police officer harry dunn, d. C. Metropolitan Police Officer Michael Fanone went to The Hill with mrs. Sicknick today, meeting with senators including Ron Johnson. Ron johnson, who over and over has tried to sell the lie that what happened on January 6th was a peaceful protest. Theres your peaceful protest right there. There it is. Oh, thats wow. Id hate to see what a nonpeaceful protest looks like. Officer fanone has told me over and over that he is not political. He just wants the truth of that day to come out, but they dont want to hear the truth. Well, today sources say that he let Ron Johnson have it, and ive come to know Michael Fanone. I can imagine just what that was like, and im sorry for his experience today. Im sure he believed, as a Law Enforcement Officer and a decent, honest man, that if he just talked to them, got Face To face with them, told them the truth of that day, that they would understand and that they would listen. And now hes learned what everyone must understand. They have no conscience. They dont want to know the truth. Truthtellers are an inconvenience to them. Truthtellers are just people who make it harder for them to ignore their oaths to preserve and protect the constitution and the responsibilities of their jobs. And yet they find a way because they care about nothing beyond their own prospects for power and protecting the former guy. Think about this. These republican senators could all have been killed. Thats the reality. And what would they want . What would they want if that had happened . Would they have wanted their Loved Ones to stick with trump even then . Were never again going to ask what it would take for republicans to break from trump. Clearly there is no bottom for them. There is nothing that they wont do, nothing they wont do. And republicans and democrats, i should say, anger is really tonight, and it should be. They should be angry. The deal for this commission was bipartisanship. It was supposed to be bipartisan. It included Everything republicans asked for. Everything. 35 house republicans voted for it. Democrat joe manchin, angry today but not angry enough to Blow Up the filibuster. There was a lot of negotiations and the leadership of the democrats on both the house and the senate have agreed to the recommendations that were made to make the adjustments. Theres no excuse for a republican not to vote for this unless they dont want to hear the truth. If Republicans Cant even stand up for the truth in the face of one of the darkest days in american history, if theyre still trying to bury the truth about the insurrection we all saw with our own eyes and heard with our own ears [ screaming ] if they are still trying to bury the truth, even after those rioters hunted for them in the halls of congress, well, that tells you exactly what you need to know. Theyre too afraid of a former president who has been out of office for more than four months. That is why Mitch Mcconnell went so far as to beg senators to filibuster the bill as a personal favor to him, Mitch Mcconnell, who knows exactly what happened on January 6th and who knows exactly who is responsible. He knows. He told us so after he voted to acquit the former president. Theres no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. No question about it. The people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their president. Mitch mcconnell doesnt care about the truth. All he cares about is 2022 well, actually, i take that back. All he cares about is 2024 and winning back the White House, and hes willing to do anything. Hes willing to Say Anything to achieve those goals. He told us that too. If the president was the partys nominee, would you support him . The nominee of the party . Absolutely. And then there is onetime House Speaker Paul ryan, criticizing the former President Tonight and his Death Grip on the republican party. Watch this. Once again, we conservatives find ourselves at a crossroads. And heres the reality that we have to face. If the conservative cause depends on the populist appeal of one personality or of secondrate imitations, then were not going anywhere. Okay. Where was that when former speaker i didnt see the Tweet Ryan was in power . Remember, he never saw trumps tweets whenever you asked him about it. I didnt see the tweet. Thats why i called him the former speaker i didnt see the tweet speaker. Now hes on the board of fox corporation, the Parent Company of the Fox Propaganda Network, the home of exactly the kind of cultural battles he is complaining about tonight. As the left gets more woke, the rest of america is getting weary. This stuff is exhausting, and we conservatives have got to be careful not to get caught up in every little cultural battle. Sometimes these skirmishes are just creations of outraged peddlers detached from reality and not worth anybodys time. Outraged peddlers, huh . Then speaking of that, woke, when he calls woke. Republicans are doing all the canceling right now. Ask liz cheney. Outraged peddlers, huh . Who exactly is it who peddles that outrage . The gop and their absurd culture wars. First they outlawed dr. Seuss, and now they want to tell us what to say. I am sam. I am sam. Sam, i am. That sam, i am that sam, i am. I do not like that sam, i am. Do you like Green Eggs And Ham . I do not like them, sam, i am. I do not like Green Eggs And Ham. Look out, mr. Potato head. Youre next. First it was Kermit The Frog and the muppets, mr. Potato head, and now dr. Seuss. I have said i think this is the biggest threat to freedom we face. They canceled mr. Potato head. You know, this week alone they canceled the muppets. You know, theyre canceling dr. Seuss from reading programs. Oh, my dogosh. Theyre canceling liz cheney. These people, come on. Paul Mccarthy Kevin Mccarthy sorry, paul. Kevin mccarthy, come on. Whats Joe Bidens favorite word. Full of malarkey. And as Paul Ryan speaks out for his vision of the gop, the Trump Wing of the party is on full display tonight. This is Donald Trumps party, and im a Donald Trump republican. Were not going back to the days of the bushes and the mccains and the romneys. Our way, america first, is the way forward for america. And that is the face of the gop. Gaetz and the qanon congresswoman. Weve got to clear something up. Who won the president ial race on November 3rd for georgia . Lets answer that question for her. Joe biden. Its settled. But thats what Joe Biden is faced with tonight, a republican party in thrall of the former president. A republican party letting Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene speak for them. A republican party too scared to stand up for the truth of what happened on January 6th even though it could have killed them. President biden saying this today. I cant imagine anyone voting against the establishment of a commission on the greatest assault since the Civil War on the capitol. Tonight well find out whether ten republicans have the guts to do whats right because weve got the latest on the vote expected at any minute tonight. The vote on the commission charged with finding the truth of what happened on one of the darkest days in american history. 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Were standing by for that Senate Vote Tonight on the commission to investigate the capitol insurrection, The One that happened on January 6th. The gop all but certain to block it. Senator lisa murkowski, one of the handful of republicans who is backing the commission, has a message for her colleagues, like the leader mcconnell, who worry that talking about the January 6th insurrection will hurt their chances in 2022. She says in part, to be making a decision for the shortterm political gain at the expense of understanding and acknowledging what was in front of us on January 6th, i think we need to look at that critically. Lisa murkowski saying that. Joining me now to discuss, democratic Congressman Jamie Raskin of maryland. He was the Lead Impeachment Manager during trumps second Impeachment Trial. Congressman, thank you. Really appreciate you joining us this evening. I know its a very busy time for you. So it seems that the vast majority its good to be with you, don. Yeah. Thank you. Sorry. We do have a delay, so lets acknowledge that and be cognizant of it, congressman. You know, it seems that the vast majority of republican senators will vote against this commission. Some looked into the eyes of a Grieving Mother today, who lost her son, and officers who fought back that mob, and theyre still going to say no. What do you say to them tonight . Is this a new low . Well, theyve elevated what they think is in their best political interests over what is clearly in the best interest of the country, which is to determine the truth of those events and the cause of those events. But they are too eager to protect Donald Trump and the evidence of his attempted political coup against the government and against the election and too eager to protect the proud boys and the three percenters and the Oath Keepers in their insurrection against america. And then theyre too eager, i think, to protect the rioters themselves who were seduced by Donald Trumps invitation to come To Washington from the truth because those people will defect very quickly once we simply proclaim the truth, which is that the Big Lie is a lie, that Donald Trump did not win the election. But these are people who were brought To Washington under the premise that the election was being stolen and they were going to go and stop the steal. So its hard to blame them in a weird way. But we need to get the truth out to those people, and Donald Trump should be an absolute pariah in america as well as everybody who has been enabling his antisocial and antidemocratic conduct. And the fact that they can look in the eyes of a Grieving Mother and still vote the way that they are planning to vote. Gladys sicknick is who im speaking of, the mother of the fallen capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick. Also Michael Fanone and harry dunn, they all tried to convince republican senators to support this commission. This is officer lets put this up officer Fanones Body Camera footage. I just spoke with him just before the show. He said it was traumatic to relive the most devastating moment of his life over and over again but felt many senators simply just didnt care. If these Lawmakers Cant stand up for the truth of the lawmakers who risked their lives protecting them, what can they stand for . What do they stand for . Well, theyre not interested in law enforcement. All of the capitol officers ive spoken to, including officer fanone, including officer harry dunn, who is a constituent of mine, have been demanding that we do a commission to figure out how this happened and what Security Precautions need to be put in place. But also we need to investigate violent White Supremacy. You know, domestic violent extremism, which is basically violent White Supremacy, accounted for twothirds of the Terror Incidents in america in 2020. I mean this is the single biggest Terror Threat to the american people and to our public security right now. And they are covering up for them as well as covering up for Donald Trump and the proud boys and the Oath Keepers and so on. Not only were you and, you know, thats a scandal when it comes to i was just going to say, the Law Enforcement Officers on Capitol Hill and the Metropolitan Police department in d. C. , who came to our rescue, if nothing else, if they dont care about the constitution and the future of the republic, at least they owe it to the Police Officers who they claim to support. Otherwise, everybody will know thats a total lie. Yeah. I was going to say not only were you a witness to this insurrection, your daughter and your soninlaw were also on Capitol Hill on January 6th, locked in an office, sending what they thought were goodbye texts. This is what you said at the Impeachment Trial about your conversation with your daughter after the attack. Here it is. I told her how sorry i was, and i promised her that it would not be like this again the next time she came back to the capitol with me. And you know what she said . She said, dad, i dont want to come back to the capitol. Of all the terrible, brutal things i saw and i heard on that day and since then, that one hit me the hardest. Listen, i hate to have you relive that because i know you were suffering a loss in your family, and there was a horrible, horrible time for you. Do you fear January 6th could happen again . Well, it certainly will happen again. I mean January 6th wasnt the first outbreak of this. Remember, there was a plot to kidnap and assassinate michigan Governor Whitmer and a siege of the michigan state capitol, which Donald Trump had been encouraging and other highlevel republicans had been encouraging. There were the maga marches on washington, which ended up in violence. And so, you know, part of what we showed at the Impeachment Trial, which ended up with a 5743 vote to convict, was that January 6th was the culmination of a series of events. And if we dont intervene to stop it now, this will become the norm. Political violence will be validated and normalized. Thats what Donald Trump wants. I mean Hes Someone who always likes to encourage Chaos And Violence wherever he goes, and then he wraps his political plans inside of it. I mean, remember, there was a coup that was built into all of the riots and the violence in the insurrection. The coup was targeted at mike pence, to get him to reject the Electoral College votes coming from Arizona And Georgia and pennsylvania. And they thought the only thing they needed to do was to get pence to repudiate those votes, kick it to a contingent election in the house, and Donald Trump would win because they controlled 27 of the state congressional delegations. We dont vote one member one vote under a contingent election under the 12th amendment. We vote one state one vote. So they were very close to conducting and perfecting that coup. Now, there were rightwing elements like the proud boys and the three percenters who had an insurrection in mind, and they also were talking about violence against Pence And Nancy pelosi and killing members of congress. And then there were the people who were just brought in as rioters. But you got to peel the second onion to figure out what was really going on. And im in the process of trying to do that. I hope that we have a commission that can do it formally and publicly. And, remember, this commission we voted for in the house, don, five republicans, five democrats, equal subpoena authority, right down the middle, just like the 9 11 commission, and they wont take yes for an answer. And that was exactly what Kevin Mccarthy was asking for. Why . Because they dont want the truth, because they want this to become the norm in our politics. Yeah. Yeah, thats what katko asked for and Nancy Pelosi gave it to him. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Enjoy your holiday weekend. I really appreciate you joining. Thank you very much. Its wonderful to see you. Thank you. He says american democracy is hanging by a thread, so who does he blame for it . Im going to ask Paul Krugman next. Na na na na. Hey hey hey. Goodbye. Na na na na. Hey hey hey. Goodbye. Na na na na na na na na. The worlds first sixfunction multipro tailgate. Available on the gmc sierra. Look, if your wireless the wocarrier was a guyunction multipro tailgate. Youd leave him tomorrow. Not very flexible. 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Were going to have it for you just as soon as it happens. Until then, lets talk. Paul krugman joins me, the author of arguing with zombies economics, politics, and the fight for a better future. Professor, thank you for joining. I appreciate it. Its good to see you. Good to be on. So the January 6th commission on its way to defeat in the senate. Republicans dont want an investigation into an attack that threatened their lives and our democracy. Is this a permanent black mark on our nation . What do you think . Yeah. I mean were in very deep trouble, and i think its important to understand the nature of the trouble. Its not obviously the extremists, the white supremacists, the people who would like to violently overthrow the government are scary, extremely scary. But weve always had people like that in this country. We had the John Bird society. Weve had joe mccarthy. Weve had White Supremacy as a political force has been around for decades. The difference is that we now have a republican party that will not stand up to those people. The great majority of republicans in congress, both in the senate and the house, know that Joe Biden legitimately won the presidency. They know that January 6th was an attempt at the violent overthrow of an electoral result, but they are cowards. And the thing thats not because, you know, just somehow by some accident we have a cowardly republican party. Its the result of a 40year degeneration of what that party is about. This is not the republican party of dwight eisenhower. Its not even the republican party of the reagan years although some of whats happened now it started. This is a party that has really gone downhill, has become corrupt. I was looking at one of the quotes that you have here. You have this great piece in The New York Times talking about the danger our democracy is facing. You also point out the differences in the way the two major Political Parties are structured. You say the gop is ideology based on the democratic party is a coalition of interest groups. I understand what youre saying. E plain that more, though. So the Democrat Party is what we normally think of a political party as being. Its a group of people who dont agree. Interest groups, not all of them saints by any means, but teachers unions, lgbtq activists, all the people who have goals and politicians navigate between and try to satisfy the demands of these different groups and try to build a coalition. The republican party is this monolithic thing. Its not even its actually just a piece of something, a movement conservatism. All of us use the phrase the political scientists talk about it. Its a cohesive, centralized thing. Its held together or has been held together largely by billionaire money. Lets be frank. Its a lot of the reasons that republicans hold the positions they do is because Theres Money in it. And it has been for decades now the life of being a loyal republican politician has been a pretty easy life. All you had to do was say some things that werent true but they served the interests of certain people. You probably had a nice gerrymandered seat. You didnt really have to worry about losing an election. And if you should happen to lose an election, there was a safety net. You know, the phrase we use is wingnut welfare. There would be a place waiting for you at a think tank, a gig on fox news. It was all very safe, very comfortable. All of a sudden its not so safe and comfortable because now weve had this the barbarians have moved in. But think of the kind of people who prospered in that party. They are not the kind of people who are going to show any kind of moral courage. Theyre not the kind of people who are going to take a stand on principle. To name names, Kevin Mccarthy is the invertebrate at all, but thats the kind of person who has flourished in the republican party and has then left that party completely vulnerable to forces that really want to tear down our democracy. Yeah. Paul has a really interesting piece in The New York Times about the conversation were having now. I would strongly urge all of you to read it. Paul, our time is a little bit short tonight, but we appreciate you joining us. Have a great holiday weekend. Thank you so much. Same to you. Take care. Thank you. Prepare for 2024 now or risk losing Everything. Thats what my next guest is warning democrats, so stay with us. Next, carvanas 100 online shopping experience. Oh, man. Carvana lets people buy a car get this from their couch. Oh, how disruptive. No salesman there to help me pick out the car i need. How does anyone find a car on this site without someone like us Checking In . Shes a beauty, huh . 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Woman addressing their unique needs. Man . And providing a safe Learning Environment students could count on. Woman join us in honoring the work of educators. Together, we will build a better california for all of us. Top election officials in Arizona And Michigan are warning democrats that democracy itself is at stake in the upcoming elections. Michigan secretary of State Jocelyn Benson says it is time to start preparing for the 2024 elections now. Secretary benson joins me now. Thank you. Good to see you. Good to see you, don. Thanks for having me. For sure. You are issuing a dire warning about the upcoming election. So talk to me about the danger. Whats the biggest threat . That we dont learn from what we endured and successfully overcame in 2020. That theres no accountability. That we take our eye off the ball and allow those bad actors to continue to intensify their efforts to put pieces in place to undermine democracy so that when the next president ial election comes along, the same actors, the same bad forces that tried to undermine democracy in 2020 and were not successful in doing so despite very valiant effort, very challenging, even violent effort those forces will be back, but they will be better organized. They will be better funded. They will be more strategic, and they will be in more places of authority than they were in 2020. And we will therefore be at higher risk of seeing them be successful and undermine our democracy and stand in the way of the vote being the determining factor of who wins an election. Lets talk more about that because, you know, during that as weve been talking about, as youve mentioned here, a few brave state officials stood up and kept our democracy going in 2020. You say election officials across the country are being replaced. So what is the exact impact, then, on 2024 . Is it that republicans take over with Minority Rule . Is it trying to get the former guy back in the White House . Is it we want to make sure that we win at all costs . What is it . I think its important to separate the political implications from the democracy implications because what we saw in 2020, regardless of which candidate won or lost, was an attack on democracy that was a response to, among other things, an increase in Voter Turnout, also historic levels of Voter Turnout in communities of color. So we cant and then the efforts ive been talking about tonight in particular around the tragedy in the u. S. Capitol on January 6th, all of that was connected to an effort to actually intervene with the certification and the finalization of a fair and secure and highly accurate election. So that efforts going to come back in 2024. And whats happening right now in 2021, which we should expect to only escalate in the months and years ahead, is an effort from those bad actors to prepare so that next time around, theyll have more people in positions of authority and again be better organized and more strategic to be able to be successful at blocking democracy, at stopping the count of votes in states all across the country and interfering in the processes with an eye towards continuing to cause chaos and confusion, continue to sow seeds of doubt about the faith of our democracy, to cause people to engage and not participate, and to also put rules in place that will allow for Voter Suppression or reduction of access to the vote and that will ultimately decrease turnout, particularly in communities of color across the country. Thats what were looking at. Thats where were headed. If ive ever seen a Flashing Red Light or a horn or a warning siren, what you just said was it. We are seeing tonight how lawmakers, secretary, are trying to whitewash the insurrection to protect the former guy. Yeah. Does that show that theyll do anything to win . Its part of what i asked in the last question, Minority Rule, whatever it takes. Does it show theyll do anything to win . I certainly think weve seen over the past seven months since the polls closed in november just how far people are willing to go to undermine democracy. And that should alarm us, but it also should ensure that we stay vigilant to protect democracy and not forget that we succeeded in protecting democracy in 2020. But we have not yet held those bad actors account oobl. Thats exactly whats being debated right now in the u. S. Capitol building, that accountability that we have to have if were going to finally move forward from those efforts into a more healthy and robust democracy. Until we have that accountability and more truthtelling, were not going to move forward, and were just going to see an intensification of these bad actors doing things like theyre doing in arizona with the quote, unquote, fraudity, Passing Laws across the country to make it harder for people to vote in states all over the country and removing or replacing Election Administrators with people who will be more willing to bend to the whims of candidates and party officials instead of listening to the will of the voters. Thought we were going to lose your signal. We didnt. It all worked out. Thank you, secretary benson. I appreciate it. Enjoy your holiday weekend. You too, don. Thank you. Donald trump may be out of office, but his presidency has lasting consequences, like highprofile appointees who now use their power to take this spread a baseless and racist conspiracy. T now, to give you exceptional care and 20 off your treatment plan. 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