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Baseballs, and more is in store for today. This forecast is brought to you by carvana, the new way to buy a car. Now, when we talk about the areas of concern for today, some of those same areas that got Hit Yesterday could potentially get hit again today, but this is a much wider swath of the country where were talking very large hail yet again, larger than golf bawl size, damaging winds, tornados. The timeline will be mainly this afternoon going into the evening for the focus. New day continues right now. Im John Berman alongside Brianna Keilar on this New Day. Breaking overnight, another life has been lost in the deadly shooting at the Rail Yard in california, the 17th Mass Shooting in america this week as the nation seems to become numb. Prosecutors are investigating Donald Trump. They say that a Witness Theyve told a witness to prep for Grand Jury testimony. In this hour, well speak live with one person who is cooperating with them, the former daughterinlaw of trumps top money man. Joining us, the mother of fallen Capitol Officer Brian Sicknick will meet facetoface with republican senators and plead them to back the investigation. As America Returns to normal, so does bad incidents. What a fan did that has many players incensed. Welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. It is thursday, may 27th. What the hell is wrong with us. Thats what Governor Gavin Newsome is asking us as nine were slaughtered at a Rail Yard. This morning the flag at the White House stands halfstaff over 240 killed in last year, 17 this week. Nine americans showed up to work Wednesday Morning and never made it home. Joining us, former Fbi Deputy director, andy, when you look at this wave, what are we supposed to make of it . John, if i was still at the fbi, i would be thinking about how we could better respond to help our state and local partners at these horrific scenes, but the reality is theres not much we can do. Were already very good at it. We have so much practice. We do this every week, every day somewhere in america. This is not a problem that the Fbi Or Police or Law Enforcement can solve. This is a societal issue that is spiraling out of control, and its one that our national political leadership has to put their hands around to try to do something about it. Here we are in the wake of another tragedy. There are more americans dead, and, look, lets be honest. Its unlikely anythings going to happen to change this. I think after any one of these, we start to ask, what is the thing that might have prevented this one from happening, and it becomes really a body of different things. Look. Were still waiting for information when it comes to the weapon or weapons, when it comes to, you know, motive definitely. Were still waiting for information. But, of course, types of weapons are an issue, and as news broke of the deadly Mass Shooting in san jose, republican senators were on The Hill grilling president bidens pick to lead atf. Lets listen to this. The ar15 is one of the most popular rifles in america. Not a machine gun. Its a rifle. Your position is you want to ban them, is that correct . I support a ban as has been presented in the Senate Bill and supported by the president. The ar15 is a gun i was issued on atfs s. W. A. T. Team and its a particularly lethal weapon, and regulating it as other particularly lethal weapons, i have advocated for. As Atf Director if i was confirmed, i would enforce the law on the books, and right now there is no gun in the book. Its similar to what he carried and my husband carried while on combat turns. Its dead on arrival. Why is he opposed to banning this gun designed for maximum Advantage And War . Its the same gun i carried as a member of the s. W. A. T. Team and fbi. This is absolutely ridiculous. Can we step back for a minute and look at the fact that we are talking about who should lead the atf, the agency responsible for enforcing the gun laws. Heres a man with over 20 Years Experience as an atf agent, hes universally respected by police and Law Enforcement associations, he has support of the Law Enforcement community. Hes very clearly the right person to lead that agency that has struggled for leadership for so many years. The fact that hes willing to stand up and say, yes, these particular weapons are incredibly lethal, they were made for the battlefield. Is it a rifle, Senator Cruz . Sure. Its a rifle that was designed to kill people at war, and theyre having an incredibly deleterious effect on our society right now. So i think hes you know, i applaud his courage in standing up for his convictions. Theyre based on experience, not politics or having been influenced by the nra, and i certainly hope he gets through this process. Andrew mccabe, thank you very much. Were going to have much more on this ahead. But first prosecutors learn pursuing a criminal case against the Trump Organization have tell at least one witness to prepare for Grand Jury testimony. Joining us now is a former daughterinlaw of Allen Weisselberg. Jennifer, thank you so much for being with us. I have not yet. What is the nature right now . Currently my attorney speaks to them. We check in weekly with updates on documents, financial documents as for the Grand Jury subpoena. Documents related to . All financials regarding my ongoing Divorce Judgment Case and any financials i would receive as being part of the family. How much have you turned over . Weve been turning documents over for a year and a half, seven boxes plus electronic documents. Has there been any change recently in the type of contact and what theyre asking for from you . It looks like theyve done a full deep dive with the forensic accountants that were appointed by the Grand Jury before. Originally they appointed me a lawyer. It looks like were going next into the issues with cash and how things were paid. And how things went . Mmhmm. Let me ask you this. Youve been very public with what youve turned over to the prosecutors. Youve done some interviews. Has there been any Backlash Or Retribution . Yes. Allen weisselberg is on my lease. He refused to show them. He had to guarantee my lease and told me i cant show my Pay Stubs during the investigation. I thought, why not. I knew there was a problem. That being said, yesterday i was ser served to leave my apartment within the next seven days, so its a threat. Its a threat. You were served to leave your apartment within the next seven days. Yep. Theyre kicking me out. Why . I guess im not wrong about the information im getting. Has allen told you directly why hes kicking you out . I contacted Allen Numerous Times last year trying to discuss this privately, gracefully, with dignity inside the family, but he contacted Donald Trump jr. And he refused to talk. I havent talked to him since last june. Hes trying to force you out of your apartment. Yes. What was it specifically you think you said. Monday night i appeared with michael cohen. Weve been in similar situations with the Weisselberg And Trump in past years. Theres really no difference to our stories. Hay happen to be friends or mothers from school, but i spoke details about the Trump Payroll Corp on that show. It was after the criminal probe that came out that was directly on allen, which i think hes always hidden behind the trump org, influence and power. Now it seems like with a individual probe on him, it just seems different. It upleveled. And so i spoke about how i know hes Hiding Money in escrow, having checks cut, tax fraud. Theres definitely tax fraud. Theres definitely tax evasion. I think theres just a lot of for the first time they seem really nervous. For the first time they seem really nervous. Yes. Youre on a lease. You say hes trying to force you out of your apartment for in the next seven days. You told Erin Burnett you Think Weisselberg Will Flip. Why . He started to change documents. There was a cleanup process. I witnessed it for nine months within the organization. Allen was trying to clean up documents within the organization. Numbers have changed where compensation, for example, to give you one example, for con people sags, there was tax evasion, not reporting compensation. All the way until 2017 its showing the numbers the way its supposed to properly be reporting, but there are compensation for tuition. Paying directly for your kids to go to private school. Yes. Why do you think allen Will Flip . Because hes working so hard to clean up his side of the street, and hes 75, you know, donalds in washington. I dont know. It seems like a different scenario. Have you seen any evidence yet that Allen Weisselberg is cooperating with investigators . No. I dont know. You think hes fighting this. I didnt know he was deposed last august. The a. G. Contacted me and so did the d. A. I didnt initiate this. They contacted me on the Heels Of Allen Being deposed last september. Ive got to say if the two are working on the case, theyre really smart and its a serious situation. You know, well see what happens. Based on what you know of Allen Weisselberg and based on what you know of Donald Trump, whats going on now with them . You said you think theyre getting nervous . What do you mean . Donalds not happy. That means donald is not happy and thats not a good situation to be in. What happens when Donald Trump is not happy . Well, definitely retaliate. We know that. What happens . How does Allen Weisselberg behave in your experience when Donald Trump is not happy . He does everything to please and protect his boss, but hes no different. Hes in a precarious bad situation. You know, being the maestro of all the numbers, and The One that puts the Family Business after starting with freb in 1973 and now this is a legacy thats so much bigger, anticipated with donald becoming president and being global. Do you think crimes were going on even after trump became president . Yes. What kind. I dont know as far as the White House. I cant speak to that. In terms of the org, i see the same come Pli Iplication issues. I think they anticipated he would win. Theres no real difference to that. The same behavior was there. I think they can try to clean up as much as they can, but taxes are finite. You say, again, Allen Weisselberg is trying to push you out of our apartment within the next seven days. My parents asked the same thing, do you think youre in danger . I guess im that naive. I didnt realize. I get up and do every day the best i can with the situation. I keep fighting and push forward. I tell the truth. Id like to get an order proef tecz. Hes on my lease, you know, things are getting hot and heavy. Its heating up. There are people who do look at you and say, look, this is someone whos upset with her exhusband and her Exhusbands Family and thats why youre coming out now. Oh, no, no. It wasnt a bad divorce. We walked away. We werent happy. No. There was no motivation at all. I was called to do what i do. I do believe in a higher justice and i dont this is not indicative of my integrity. Ive moved on from that family. Did Allen Weisselberg ever ask you in your mind to do something illegal . Well, theyre efiling taxes for me and forged my name. What do you mean forging my name . Jerry was signing my name on taxes. Your exhusband. Yes. I had too exonerate myself on joint taxes, you know. You say Donald Trump paid the tuition for one of your children to go to private school, correct . Correct. Did you know about it at the time . Yes, yes. In bare in 2012, that was one childs tuition. Baron trump went to the same school. Donald paid for the first tuition. There was a discussion that the tuition was in lieu of a raise . Yes. The tuition was yes. When you get the same salary for 21 years and the same bonus and then the raise is paid in an apartment, in a car, in a tui tuition, thats an issue. Were the taxes ever paid . Not indicated at all on the personal side. Likely on the board side. My documents connect, and theyre taking deductions on compensation inside the Trump Payroll Corp, you know, saving on lots of tax when theyre being evasive. You never paid taxes on the tuition which was compensation. Right. I did not know this with was the dialogue until i read Barrys Deposition when he discussed it in his deposition. And so during the divorce it came out. It talks about the Trump Organization 48 times. So that came out and the fact it was a corporate apartment i was initially gifted. I did not know it was a corporate apartment. So it came out. So the taxes its not that theyre listed incorrectly. Theyre not there at all. Bloomberg had reported this when they were doing an article on me about financial Abuse And Stuff going on. There were so manyensics and lawyers looking at this, and they flagged the problem. Since you began talking to investigators and providing them with documents, who have they been most interested in in your mind . Your exhusband bar yrbarry, yo exfatherinlaw, allen . Initially it was all of them, and it honed into Allen Weisselberg himself initially. What about are Trump Family . Any specific areas they delved into with them . Initially it was the overvaluing of certain properties like 7 spring. But i think my mind turned quickly to Allen Weisselberg. When was your last conversation with allen . It was cnn in d. C. And it was during covid and i called him up. I said i think this needs to be handle. We could at least have a conversation. And he refused. When was this . June of 2020. June of 2020 you reached out and asked to meet with him and he refusd. I told mark that was the last time. Did they try to reach you . No. Were you close to them. Very, very. Tell me. How was the relationship even after the divorce. During i, yeah, yeah, we would see each other on the weekends. Very close. What is it like not to have a relationship all this time. What do you think happens next . In terms of the investigation . I get called in to put my voice to the document, taxes. And you think in the end this ends up with Allen Wisenberg in jail. No. Anyone else . Well see how the flipping goes. 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During expedia travel week, save 20 or more on thousands of hotels. Expedia. It matters who you travel with. Donald trumps attorney is defending the expresident s incendiary speech on January 6th saying in a new Court Filing that trump is protected by the first amendment and that he had a, quote, absolute immunity at the time, so anything he did was a constitutionally protected act against the presidency. A reminderer, heres what trump told supporters before some of them stormed the capitol. We fight like hell. If you dont fight like hell, youre not going to have a country anymore. Democrats have brought a lawsuit to hold republicans accountable. Phil, just first, your reaction to trumps claim of absolute immunity. What do you make of this . Well, i think its more of the same God Complex we saw throughout his presidency, that he because hes the president , he can do anything he want, youre not going to tell him anything different, hard stop. Its a claim thats been rejected in the Supreme Court last year, but he clearly is not above the law and he clearly does not have absolute immunity for every single thing hes done as president and were not alleging anything he did in connection with the lawsuit was anything close to an official act. When you read this filing there is this element of throwing things against the wall that sort of sticks. Thats what it sort of invokes. His attorney also argues hes using political rhetoric thats under the first amendment. What do you say to that . Its not protected speech. To be clear, theres nothing in our complaint or any of the lawsuits that are happening that are attacking protected free speech to the extent Donald Trump attended a rally and said things, our claim is he incited illegally an insurrection. Thats not something he enjoys immunity from. His lawyer says not so fast, its been asked and answered. Hes been impeached. Hes been acquitted. I dont follow that. Number one, the defense he raised in the Senate Trial was, i shouldnt be here. I think senators have accurately said the court of law is the place to perceive. This as a legal matter, the concept that a senate Impeachment Trial for which theres only two remedies for Removal Or Disqualification with is Proexclusive Effect in a court of law in which damages and other relief are being sought is puzzling. Have you ever been in a case where the opposing side comes with arguments like this . Yes. I think it happens a lot. So it does kind of happen a lot. Yeah. In a case this high profile . If i had to characterize the motion to dismiss, it stems from the idea i can do whatever i want. I guess what im getting at, is it weird for this to be a former president s kind of style of legal approach to defend oneself . I dont know that its weird that this former president is taking this style to defend himself. But it is a little puzzling that an important motion like this is resting on a principal that doesnt have any legs. Phil, thank you so much. Phil andonian. Thank you so much. Get ready to hit. Pardon me. My prompter changed. Heres wait says now. Ready, set, sail. The Cruise Ship is being given the green light. This is, of course, one more sign that america is reopening, kind of getting back to normal here. Cnn has the pandemic covered from Coast To coast. Reporter im Nick Watt in los angeles. Good news from disneyland. The Theme Park has been open for Almighty A Month and with restrictions and open ohm to residents in california. From june 15sth T Park will welcome anyone from everywhere. Theyre imagining theyll lift all the remaining covid restrictions. Reporter i ooh im Alexandra Field in New York where the city is preparing to reopen its beaches in time for the hoelida weekend. They plan to have mobile stations. Thursdays reopening comes just in time for whats expected to be throngs of tourists visiting the city for the Memorial Day Weekend holiday. To ensure safety, face masks will be required at all times, Hand Sanitizers at every station, and riders are encour encouraged to practice social distancing. Also coming back, standup comedy. I grew up at a time when the definition of manhood was so narrow, you were either Clint Eastwood or richard simmons. There was nothing in between. There were no paul rudds, no kindeyed Mark Ruf ruffalos. You had to be heard. Heres gary with a moustache. I was so young. I havent cut it by not wanting to get it cut, which is like greek tragedy. The vanity would be hard to explain. This is an hoage to frank zap pa. You look like him. Youve got your first show tonight. Yes. How do you feel about that . Im so excited. Comedy was not my vocation, but it was also my social life and most of my friends are comedians. I just cant wait. Its been a huge hole in my life that ive filled with a lot of pastry. I was going to ask. Youve been very honest when we hosted an hbo special. You spoke about your battle as far as your Mental Health. What has it been like for you . I spoke at the very beginning and it was so hopeful. It was a great, i guess, reinforcement to get out of it. I continued to exercise and keep in touch with people mostly over the phone and through zoom and doing nice things for other people was very helpful. Mark twain said f you want to cheer yourself up, cheer somebody else up. Then i got in touch with my psychiatrist to make sure. Im so glad my Mental Health stood up and it was stable. It was a great test. I understand a lot of peoples have had struggles. What was hardest for you . I have such a fear that things are out of my control. How about everything. Everything was out of my control. The one thing that was helpful was maintaining gratitudes. The special got out before all this, and i was able to promote it. I tried not to blamefor the pandemic because i had this feeling, like, did you think you were going to get a special On Hbo and not cause a cataclysmic error in the comedy world. U im sure i had something do with it. Weve had a 14month experience like no other. Is your routine going forward going to be pandemicrelated . I think what ill do is watch the comedians going on before me around then talk about something different. The one thing i know is the late night hosts did such a phenomenal job of covering this. I watch John Oliver regularly, an he and he is, to me, the late night gold standard. He covered so many things beautifully, i feel like if they really want to hear the insight on everything thats going on, i think there are people who are i dont benner than me. Listen. Youre one of our favorited. Youve made it through with all of us this last year. Im so grateful. Its so nice to hug the elderly. I was able to see Uncle Bob and Aunt Judy and joanie my, mother. One of the things you take for granted, its something you did. I also had an Uncle Judy and Aunt Judy. Every jewish person does. Great to see you. Great to see you, john. So much fun. Nba players united in outrage after an incident involving Washington Wizard Star russell westbrook. He was leaving the court with an injury during a Playoff Game in philadelphia Last Night and a Sixers Fan dumped popcorn on westbrooks head. He had to be held back from going into the stands. That fan was escorted out of the arena after this incident. The they say the league has to do more to protect its players. Its getting out of hand, just for me. The amount of disrespect, the fact that fans do whatever the [ bleep ] they want to do, its e not the plan. Im a fan of sports. I get it. But there are certain things that cross the line. Cnns Andy Shoals has more. Was Tear Thabl that happened. It certainly was, brianna. For some reason there are a lot of fans out there that can just say wlaefr they want and do whatever they want to these players out on the court just because theyre athletes. Russell westbrook is a superstar. He hears it plenty. And he certainly is one of the players that does not put up with it at all. Weve seen him confront fans. Four weeks ago they were in philly, fan got escorted Sitting Courtside for giving him the double burn. And in utah, a fan got banned from going to utah jazz games. As westbrook said, he has a filing if youre not going to say something to him or doing something to him in public, you have no right do it on the court. Its getting physical with the players too. It crosses the line. Its so clearly over the line, andy. How were the others reacting . Beal called it disgusting. Lebron james also tweeting about what he saw on television Last Night saying, by the way, we as players want to sigh who threw that popcorn on him. There were cameras all over. You know, guys, theres really no easy answer for the nba. Fans are closer to the players in the nba than they are for others. You can say youre banning a fan, but theres no way to stop that. The fans can stop being jerks. All right, andy, thanks so much for that. Coming up, a rabbi not holding back on a congresswoman who compared the Mask Mandate to the holocaust. And Cartoon Controversy in the race for New York maier. From the moment i laid eyes on you this is what i id, i said i see it and i like it and i want it yes, i do do, do, do i need it to make me happy baby, yes i do mean you i see it and i like it and i want it yes, i do woo Birds Flyin high, you know how i feel. Breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. Its a new dawn. If youve been taking copd sitting down, its time to make a stand. Start a New Day with trelegy. No oncedaily Copd Medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. 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He wants them to report back in 90 days. And amazon is shutting down a Warehouse Construction Site again wednesday in connecticut after the discovery of an eighth noose at the location. The Site Hat just reopened when a seventh apparent noose was first sound. They started showing up in april. Tennis Star Naomi Osaka announce shed will not take part in any news conferences, over what she says is a disregard by the general media over the Mental Health of athletes. Marjorie Taylor Greenes Holocaust Comment which equates mask wearing to the treatment of jews in nazi, germany, brought about backlash. A journalist is also a rabbi and great grandson of hall cost victim. Joining me now is the author of that oped and a columnist, j. Michaelson. Thank you for being with us. Its quite captivating. You use a lot of sarcasm, Dark Sarcasm to point out the way how ridiculous this comparison is that shes making. Tell us about this a little bit. Its funny. I started this article trying to write it straight like saying heres some of the differences of being asked to wear a mask during a disease versus being treating a certain way in the guess toe. Its Dark Jewish Humor to make jokes out of what is actually really a travesty. What you basically say is, yes, my ancestors who were marched by the germans to a Mass Grave that they had dug themselves, Standing On The Edge of it, shot and killed to fall into those graves. Yes, that is the same as Margie Taylor Greene lamenting that people who arent really vaccinated, arent wanting to wear masks due to the covid. Its absurd but it stands with the party. You see leaders speak out against it, but theyre not doing anything about her. This happens all the time. Marjorie Taylor Greene seems to be a symptom of a much larger affliction of the Rage And Extremism and hyperbole. And when you have somebody whos feeling that affliction, what you want to do is try to treat it, try to help. Again, republican leaders are again and again and again inflaming that same rage and outrageous Victim Hood that theyre displaying. Do you think her kind of comments inflame the increase in antisemitism were seeing . I dont know if they fan the flame of that. Its complicated. A lot of the new attacks are due to the flareups in The Middle East recently, but what they do is shows how insensitive she actually is. This is the time i speak from firstperson experience, American Jews are feeling a little less safe. Were hurting. In the streets in New York, there have been attacks against civilians and innocent people. To use this exact moment to make an outrageous comparison of masks to the holocaust is hypersensitivity. Carrying that message with the holocaust falling to the children of Holocaust Victims and grandchildren. Its falling to people like yourself to have to raise awareness. How do you how do you think about that as you see these kinds of things happening, these kinding of words in congress . Very mainstream. Yes. It is deeply concerned to put it mildly. I think if we take a step back and we ask, well, why did marriage Marjorie Taylor greene make this analogy, the Hall Cast is an apex of total evil and total abandonment of any kind of consciousness or judgment, and to cheapen that by saying, well, a public Health Rule whether we agree with it or not, by the way a public Health Rule is the same as that, thats whats so upsetting, because as you point out, the people who themselves are survivors are disappearing. So the Holocaust Risk thats becoming this abstract memory or touchstone, that cheapens the Injustice And Tragedy and memory of all the people who have died. I think you nailed jai michaelson, thank you for coming on. Counting down to Todays Vote on a special commission. Well talk to a senator who will cast a vote here. 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It looks like this will be the first filibuster of this senate. What does that tell you . Well, it tells me that the republicans dont want to look at the facts. They dont want to talk about what happened. John, this is really all about Donald Trump telling them to jump and they say, how high . I mean, it really is many of the same people who were angry, who were upset who realized what a serious matter this was when it occurred a couple of months ago are now saying, well, it wasnt any big deal and we dont really need to know about it and were afraid this will be a political investigation. I mean, i have to say, i kind of laugh at that. I went back this morning. There were ten investigations of benghazi. And the last one wound up in december of 2016. Does that ring a bell . I mean, that was right after the president ial election. Talk about, you know, using investigations for political purposes. This proposal thats coming before us today has to report by December 31st of this year. Its not designed to lap over into next year or to be used as a political weapon. Its to try to get to the bottom of the most serious attack on our democracy since the civil war. And to understand what happened and why it happened and where the responsibility lays. If you want to have some fun, john, look at the tape Last Night of Josh Hawley on the floor of the u. S. Senate talking about an investigation and declassifying information about the virus and where it came from and all of that kind of thing. You know, that investigation, hes all for it. Transparency is important and we need information. But he sure as hell doesnt want information about what happened on January 6th. And i think thats really bothersome. When people are moving Heaven And Earth to block an investigation, youve got to ask, what is it theyre afraid will be revealed . I want to ask you about cybersecurity, which is something you care deeply about. The tsa is going to issue new regulations for Pipeline Operators which includes requirement to inform of a ransomware attack, appointing a permanent Cybersecurity Liaison and some other measures there. Is that enough . No. How is that for a straightforward answer . No. Pipelines are essential, Critical Infrastructure. And they need to rise to the same level that the electric grid has come up with in order to police themselves and also to be subject to what we call pen testing, Penetration Testing to see how good their systems are. In new england, 60 of our electricity comes from Gas Pipeline comes from gas, all of which comes from pipeline. So we can do all we can to protect the grid but if the pipeline goes down, the electricity goes off. So the answer is no. Tsa is the regulatory body over pipelines almost by historical accident. I dont know whether you know how many people they had at tsa regulating pipelines going into this incident . I think it was something like three. So if they want to really get serious about it, okay. But i think we ought to be talking about a much more serious regime. The solarium that i worked Othe Commission On Cyber says that we should have special obligations on what we call Critical Infrastructure. Systematically important Critical Infrastructure which would include pipelines, and we also need to have a relationship where they have to report incidents. They work with us, and they have some liability protection. But this is a huge threat to the private sector. We have to have a new relationship. Let me ask about Infrastructure Writ large. Thats the president s proposal for 1. 7 trillion now in infrastructure. If republicans and some democrats who are working on this uls if theres a proposal that comes back and says how about 1 Trillion, to that you would say . Well, i would say thats more like it. And it depends on what they define as infrastructure and whats in it. The thing that im most concerned about is broadband. If Thats Part of the deal and if its a substantial investment and if its new money over the on over and above the already designated for infrastructure, okay. But the big problem, john, is going to be how its paid for. Thats the sticking point. The republicans are talking about user fees. Thats a euphemism for gas taxes. The White House says no, those are regressive. Those fall more on lowincome people. The White House is talking about jiggering around with that Tax Cut that the republicans and the President Trump proposed. So the real differences, the real argument is going to be about how its paid for. Were going to wait and see what they produce this morning, and the president has indicated a willingness to compromise. So i think the discussions are still alive. But the pay for as we say around here is the real problem. Interesting that you may be willing to accept 1 Trillion if the payfor were the right way in your mind. Senator angus king, thanks for being on with us. Thanks, john. Good to be with you. New day continues right now. Im Brianna Keilar alongside John Berman on this New Day. Nine more families are now suffering through the pain of losing a loved one in a Mass Shooting. Were going to hear from a Closeknit Community that is struggling for answers this morning. Plus, the deadly Covid Spike threatening the summer olympics, just two months from now in tokyo. Gold medalist Dominik Dawes tells us what that is like for these athletes who have been training for years to compete. The New York daily news defending a cartoon that is called a Racialized Caricature of him

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