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Trump organization. This grand jury is not solely dedicated to the trump investigation. This does, though, suggest this is a new development in this investigation thats been going on for some time and that the d. A. s office believes it may have some evidence that a crime was committed wha. What crimes could they be looking for . Reporter this investigation has been so wideranging. Theyre looking into everything from potential tax fraud, whether the Trump Organization mislead lenders, whether they committed insurance fraud. Theyre looking at Certain Properties and the Tax Treatment they have taken on those, including this Family Estate known as seven springs. Theyre also looking into Hush Money Payments made to stormy daniels, the adult firm star who alleged he had an affair with the president , something he denied, but something Michael Cohen went to jail for. Cohen, of course, is cooperating with the district attorneys investigation. A wide range of topics theyre investigating and any of those could be on the table for potential charges. Lets get some more on the barackin breaking story. Joining us is dave aaronberg, t whats your reaction to the breaking news that emerged just moments ago from the Washington Post . Good evening, wolf. I think it tells you that cyrus vance, jr. , my counterpart in manhattan, is determined to have this case charged before he leaves office at the end of this year. The grand jury is meeting for a reason. This is not a grand jury to investigate. Theyre way beyond that. This grand jury has been investigating since 2018. This grand jury would be to come up with charges. You dont need proof beyond a reasonable doubt, you just need a preponderance of the evidence, is it more likely than not, and probable cause. Thats all. Its a much lower standard to get probable cause than beyond a reasonable doubt. Obviously this spells trouble for trump and his family, but its not unexpected. Its a natural progression for this lengthy investigation. What does it tell you about the strength of this investigation, the strength of the evidence emerging that a grand jury now has officially formally been convened . I didnt waste my time or waste the grand jurys time with just asking them to help me figure out what type of charges or evidence they might want to see some day. Thats part of it, but you are going to have and convene a grand jury in part to have them allow you to indict somebody. The whole purpose of a grand jury is because you cannot do it on your own as a prosecutor. It is to decide whether you can indict on a felony. You need the approval of the grand jury to say this can happen at the probable cause level. What is telling you is they want to have enough information before this grand jury to have this closed universe that will now be used if there is a trial. Cases are won and lost at the grand jury level all the time, precisely because youre able to not have the confines of the evidentiary rules, to a certain extent. You also have an opportunity to test what the grand jurors are thinking about this case. Its Subpoena Power to get information and evidence brought in and then to present it and say, here is all that we have, is it enough . You can believe that the prosecutors are more than nudging and being persuasive, not because they would need to be. Thats the role of the prosecutors to say, here is all the information before you, do we have enough for probable cause . And likely enough beyond a reasonable doubt. Yeah. Those are good points. David chalian, clearly this is not good news for the former president or the United States or good news for the Republican Party, he is still for all practical purposes the de facto leader. No good news in the trump camp. No doubt about that. Take a look at the timing of this in the context of whats happening politically. Just as the former president is issuing statements asserting his grip on the republic party, he is still very much the life force inside the Republican Party. We know what his play is going to be here in response to this. Its going to play the victim. Hes going to rally the troops and raise a ton of money. Then hes going to call it a partisan witch hunt yet again as weve seen him do so many times. For the Republican Party which is on the precipice of trying to win back power in the House Of Representatives and maybe the senate next year, this is an unwelcome distraction. When they jettisoned liz cheney from leadership, you heard them say we must look forward, not looking back. They want to keep his energy and his supporters engaged but they want to look forward and make the case against joe biden. Now for the next how many months donald trump is going to be front and center and the potential charges against him. Dave aaronberg, what does this mean potentially . Could we expect formal charges against the former president or his associates . And how soon . Its hard to say how soon, although i would think you would see the charges by the end of this year, because thats when cyrus vance, jr. , the manhattan d. A. , is leaving office. He clearly doesnt want to leave this decision to his successor. I think its going to happen sometime this summer. This grand jury is supposed to last for six months, so we dont know when theyre going to come out with their decision. Keep in mind this investigation started in 2018. Cyrus vance, jr. , went to the u. S. Supreme court twice to chase down trumps taxes. Now theyve got trumps taxes. To me, the only question is will Allen Weisselberg be called to testify in front of the grand jury. They want somebody to narrate the story. Theres a lot of complex documents on finances. They want a story teller. Weisselberg is the ceo of the Trump Organization. He apparently knows everything that was going on there. Laura, there are some signs that the new York State Attorney general, the Manhattan District Attorney, they are coordinating their investigations into former President Trump. What does that say to you about the potential scope of all of this . Its quite rare for these two offices to overlap in this way. The idea here, youve got such an overlap and intersection of the underlying facts in this case. The idea of having the statue of limitations clock potentially run out, the idea that you had to delay this whole experience because of the Supreme Court cases back and forth, that it prolonged it perhaps, not unnecessarily. Its important to get that resolve, but youre up against cy vances time in office. I may have had a deposition here, you may have had an interview in this area, you may have documents that i need. Why reinvent the wheel . Combining forces in this way shows you there are a common set of facts at play, the idea of the mapnipulation of the tax benefit, the itmplications for individual states and even based on Michael Cohen speaking out when he testified on the hill as well. All of this is part of that same package. Youre seeing wide scoping and wide covering prosecution investigation, but youre also seeing the inability to be able to drag this out much longer or have a protracted litigation because of that clock. Give us, david chalian, the Big Political Picture right now. Where does this potential bombshell, a grand jury now formally convened to investigate to take a look at potential charges against trump, where does this fit into the bigger political picture as far as republicans are concerned . We know donald trump has said hes on the precipice of relaunching his rallies and going out in public to make the case for republicans of his choosing, ones that support his agenda, support his power inside the Republican Party. Weve seen for months since donald trump has left office that the Republican Party is trying to still figure out what it is in the post trump era. It is so dependent upon trump supporters. Talking about the huge swath of the Republican Party aligned with trump, whether its about the big lie and the 2020 election or about removing liz cheney from leadership, this is a party that is made in Donald Trumps mold right now. Yet, theyre trying to figure out how do we then go beyond trump into the future to try and win back the house, the senate, the 2024 president ial campaign. So taking the past and all of Donald Trumps controversies and making that front and center again is not going to be a welcome development. I also think theres also historically for the presidency, to see a former president have potentially criminal charges brought against them, this is a whole new face of what a post president ial life could be like. Not surprising to say that about donald trump, he didnt fit any of the norms during his presidency and it looks like hes not going to fit the norms potentially in his post presidency either. If youre the former president , how worried should you be . I think youve got to be very worried. Now youre in bedminster in new jersey where the governor is a democrat, so theres no attempt to stop the extradition like there could be in florida. The former president has to be worried about this because things are really getting real. Even though he is the former president , has control over his party, theyre not going to be able to stop an independent district attorney. Thats another thing thats so great about this job as being a district attorney. The governor is not your boss, the Attorney General is not your boss and the u. S. Attorney general and president , theyre not your boss. Were all independently elected and we can make decisions for ourselves. Did Governor Desantis, could he potentially give trump any level of protection if trump were to go back to maralago where you are in palm beach . There is buzz that Governor Desantis would try to delay matters. There is an obscure statue on the books in florida that allows the governor to send it to a prosecutor to investigate the extradition, but that statue cannot override the u. S. Constitution or federal law to stop the extradition. So desantis can do desantis things and try to rally the maga base, but in the end if trump is indicted by new york, the state of florida is going to allow new york to extradite him. Major development unfolding. Its going to keep us busy for the next several weeks and potentially months. Guys, thank you very much. Just ahead, were going to take you inside President Bidens meeting with members of George Floyds family one year after his murder in minneapolis. One of the floyd family lead lawyers is standing by live. We will discuss. There are never enough hours in the day. So we made classes you can take at any hour. Take online classes any time day or night, at university of phoenix. [sfx revving trucks] Pilot Over Radio here we go, lets do this. Pilot over radio right there, right there. [sfx revving trucks] Pilot Over Radio g complete. How do you introduce the largerthanlife gmc yukon . With the worlds biggest tweet. The next generation gmc yukon. Premium thats made to be used. This is the sound of change. Its the sound of low cash mode from pnc bank giving you the options and extra time needed to help you avoid an overdraft fee. Low cash mode on virtual wallet from pnc bank. One way were making a difference. At aspen dental, Today Is The Day low cash mode on virtual wallet from pnc bank. 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Afterward, he is renewing his calls to have Police Reform passed of capitol hill. We know it has stalled so far that is as negotiations have gone on between senators. The president wanted to not only mark the anniversary of George Floyds death, he also wanted to check in on the family. It was an emotional sitdown at the white house today. Say his name. George floyd reporter one year after george floyd was killed at the hands of minneapolis police, President Biden welcomed his family into the oval office. It was great. Hes a genuine guy. Reporter biden met with floyds siblings, daughter and the familys attorney without cameras. He wants that to be a private discussion. He has a close relationship with them. Reporter after the meeting floyds brother philonis called for action. If you can make federal laws to protect the bald eagle, you can make federal laws to protect people of color. Lets get it done next month. By the First Anniversary of George Floyds death. Reporter standing with the floyd family today, congresswoman karen bass, who authored the bill, renewed her commitment to passing it. We will get this bill on President Bidens desk. We will work until we get the job done. Reporter but democrats need republican support to pass the bill and the two sides remain divided over how to handle the legal shield for officers known as qualified immunity. Senator Lindsey Graham telling cnn we have a couple issues we are going to deal with, but there seems to be a desire to get to yes. The white house voice d optimis about passing a bill without setting any new deadlines. Floyd family Attorney Ben Crump said President Biden agreed that any legislation bearing floyds name must be significant. He said that he doesnt want to sign a bill that doesnt have substance and meaning. So he is going to be patient to make sure its the right bill, not a rushed bill. Reporter and wolf, after that meeting at the white house, ben crump, the family attorney, and the family went up to capitol hill to meet with lawmakers in the middle of these negotiations over what any Police Reform bill should look like. President biden is hoping they can come to an agreement after memorial day. When he was asked if he would sign a bill that did not end qualified immunity of course, that has been that Sticking Point between democrats and republicans wolf, he said he wasnt going to negotiate in public. Joining us here in the situation room, the colead counsel for George Floyds family, chris stewart, he was with them at the white house and also up on capitol hill today. Thank you very much for joining us. I know it was a private meeting, but how did it go . Today really embraced what gianna floyd said when this first happened, my daddy is going to change the world. These meetings would never have happened in history before, but they happened today. How is the family doing right now, looking back on this year . Theyre embracing change. They were just included in some of the most powerful meetings on civil rights to get their input. They were with tim scott and Lindsey Graham talking about how it affected them today. You were there too, right . Yes. Is there going to be a deal . Are they going to work it out . Theres a lot of optimistic talk. There is. The thing i can tell you from talking to pelosi today to Representative Bass to tim scott to Lindsey Graham, Everyone Wants a bill passed. The Sticking Points that theyre fighting over now, i think theyre getting to a point where they can be resolved. I know everyone is fighting about qualified immunity, but we have to make sure we care about the provisions that stop black people from being killed in this bill before fighting over how to sue a cop. You personally think based on what you heard from the democrats and the republicans, what you heard at the white house, you believe there will be this bill . I think the bill is going to be done. And it will be passed. It has to be passed. The one thing that both sides know, it has to get passed. Not only are you protecting africanamericans being brutalized but you are also protecting good Police Officers doing their job. The bill protects everybody. Looking back on this year, what does the family see as the most important thing that needs to be done right now to try to learn from this experience and make sure it doesnt happen again . The devils in the details, especially with this bill. Look how george floyd was killed. Derek chauvin was teaching other officers how to brutalize people. He had done it before. With this bill, you would be able to track officers that go from Department To Department To Department Taking advantage of people, breaking the law, brutalizing people. You would have a federal monitoring system. You would have Bias Protections against racial profiling. All of these things led to George Floyds death and theyre in that bill. So its important. The family announced a new fund today in minneapolis. They got millions of dollars because of the murder of george floyd. Tell us about this fund. What is the goal . Going back to the community. That area was hit hard from the protests and everything that happened with george floyd. We have the idea with the family about reinvesting in that area. The problem that happens nationwide is a lot of areas, especially minority areas, are underfunded and theyre not fixed up. That needs to change. Looking ahead, what do you see happening in the next few weeks and months . Keep these discussions going. You know, people are having powerful zudiscussions about policing. They thought if you stand up for civil rights, youre against policing. No. Stop the rhetoric, lets fix this and end all of the chaos. Chris stewart, thanks for all you do. Good to have you here. Lets stay on top of this story. Joining us is cedric richmond, the Senior Advisor of the White House Office of public engagement. Thanks so much for joining us, congressman. Did President Biden give the floyd family a Firm Commitment today that hell get Police Reform over the finish line . First, wolf, ill just tell you it was just the president , the Vice President and the floyd family in the room. We were not in the room, the attorneys were not in the room. It was the president expressing support for meaningful legislation that bears the name of george floyd and that we really have to look at policing in an honest manner, make sure theres transparency and accountability there. That was the sentiment to the family, but it was also to check on the family. He knows firsthand that its been a rough year and having to watch it play out on tv over and over again and since the trial he wanted to check in and see how they were doing. Tell us exactly, if you can, what the president is doing to make it happen that there will be this Police Reform legislation signed into law. Were doing everything we can. Right now you have House Negotiators dealing with senator scott and senator booker along with representative karen bass who are going over the details, trying to get to draft language so they can compare. And the hard part of it is the actual making of a legislation, but we supported the bill when it came out of the house. Now that its in the senate, we are just as supportive of it and we will offer any advice or Technical Assistance that is being asked of us. But we are very hopeful and ot mystic because the negotiations seem to be genuine and substantive right now. Chris stewart, the lawyer, was pretty optimistic as well. As you know, congress missed the deadline President Biden had imposed to pass Police Reform, that deadline having been today, the anniversary of George Floyds death. But there seems to be some serious momentum in these talks. Is there a realistic timeline . No. Its more important to have meaningful legislation than to meet a deadline or a timeline. I think that came out today in the conversation with the family that the president wanted something that was right, not necessarily rushed. So the family supports that. The family is doing their part. Theyre here meeting with us, theyre on the hill meeting with representatives and senators of both parties to talk about the need for reform. They are thinking about the next generation. Theyre thinking about people they have not met, nor will ever see. But they want to change policing in this country to make it constitutional, to make it safe. Thats part of what the president really admires about this family, not only what they went through, but how they are just putting their effort towards making this country live up to its creed. So we are supportive of that, were going to keep doing everything we can and were going to keep working until it actually gets done. Is qualified immunlt for Police Immunity for Police Officers the sole issue holding up the agreement . Some are suggesting maybe deal with that separately and in the meantime get everything passed into law. I think negotiations are going on behind the scenes and thats where they should stay. All i know is ive been assured from senator booker, from Representative Bass and senator scott that they want to get to a yes. We heard Lindsey Graham say that. I think we have to give them the space and support to get that done, because this is important. This is a Matter Of Life And Death and too many people are dying. We should come together and unify around this. Thats one of the causes that the family also had today, that the country should unify and get this done. If theres an agreement, do you trust Republican Leaders not to pull the rug out from under republican negotiator, senator tim scott from south carolina, like they did as far as the January 6th Commission . Well, we would hope not. Thats part of why we want a bipartisan bill that is supported by most americans in this country. This country should be united behind Police Reform. This is not antipolice. This is just pro people, pro policing. This is about constitutional policing in the United States of america and that africanamericans and other minorities should not be fearful of interactions with the police and they should leave these interactions alive and able to go home to their families. We think that is the message that the entire country can get behind. If the entire country is behind it like we think they are, then we can make sure we pass this on a bipartisan basis and hurry up and get this done so that we can move this country forward and protect human life. So important. Another critically important issue, the stalled infrastructure talks. Youre all over that as well. We know that republican senators now say President Biden would come down to a 1 trillion price tag. Originally it was 2. 2 trillion, brought down to 1. 8 trillion. Now they say maybe a 1 trillion price tag. If President Biden compromised on the top line number, does he expect republicans to compromise on how to pay for it . We havent seen any proposals yet on how to pay for it. Were interested in seeing that. We put up a proposal to pay for it because we think it should be paid for and we think that the corporations in america that benefit from the Infrastructure Investments were going to make, we think the top third of the top 1 also should pay their fair share. Because what we cant do is put this on the backs of the middle class that has been working and struggling and breaking their backs to keep this country afloat all these years. The president came down 550 billion, the republicans went up 50 billion. Were eagerly awaiting a response from the republicans with a new proposal, how to pay for it, whats their number, because this issue is too important. The president has said that his only bottom line is he wont raise taxes on people who make less than 400,000 a year and inaction is not an option on infrastructure because it is crucial to making sure we can compete in the future and win the future. Investing in infrastructure and American Families and people is whats necessary right now. We expect people to come together and do it. Cedric richmond is the Senior Advisor to President Biden. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me. The Washington Post reporting that the Manhattan District Attorney has convened a grand jury thats expected to consider whether to indict, yes, whether to indict former President Trump as part of the criminal probe of his business. Lets go to ryan nobles, whos working this story. What are you picking up on capitol hill . Reporter this story is just breaking, so not a lot of senators having time to digest this news of the Washington Post reporting about a grand jury potentially being empanelled to look into criminal conduct from former President Trump. But i did get a chance to catch up with connecticut senator richard blumenthal, who is a critic of the former president. He said hes glad the grand jury is taking this step because it takes out of the hands of politicians. He said, quote, i have trust in their credibility, because i think they want whatever result to have a lot of trust and credibility, so theyre going to be very careful and cautious in their judgments. Of course, the former president still looms large over everything that happens here on capitol hill. Some of his closest supporters remain very powerful and loud voices, particularly in the House Of Representatives. One of them, of course, is georgia congresswoman Marjorie Taylor green. For the first time Republican Leaders are actually speaking out about the remarks she made related to the holocaust and the Mask Mandates in the House Of Representatives. After five days of silence, Republican Leaders finally stepping up and condemning representative Marjorie Taylor greens comments comparing the holocaust to Mask Mandates. One of the frequent outbursts that are absolutely outrageous and reprehensible. Reporter on the house side, Kevin Mccarthy calling her comments appalling and saying the conference condemns this language. Republican whip Steve Scalise saying he condemns these comparisons to the holocaust after repeated requests for comments from cnn, the leaders are finally responding, but also couching their criticism by attempting to accuse pelosi and democrats of not doing enough to call out antisemitism. Still, the delayed rebuke from gop leader slip causing an avalanche of criticism from Rank And File republicans. Texas congressman dan crenshaw tweeting, remember when we all criticized aoc for comparing Detention Centers to Concentration Camps because it was so stupid and insulting to Holocaust Survivors . Youre doing the same thing. Just stop. Green, meanwhile, not backing down, repeating her comparison more forcefully in a tweet Tuesday Morning saying, quote, vaccinated employees get a Vaccination Logo just like the nazis forced jewish people to wear a gold star. But while the condemnation is piling up, the question is will action follow . House speaker nancy pelosi, who is the target of greens comments, stopped short of calling her to be censured or expelled . Its so beyond reprehensible, it has no place in our country. Reporter do you think she should be expelled or censured because of it . Pelosis office calling out mccarthy for enabling green, saying leader mccarthys silence has spoken volumes. Mccarthy and the gop even getting heat from major gop donors. Long time trump supporter and mccarthy ally jeff miller calling green out, wtf is wrong with you, he tweeted . I think you need to pay a visit to the holocaust museum. And Adam Kinzinger saying its time to boot green from the conference. I think we should kick her out of the conference, keep her from benefitting from conference materials. Im not sure that will happen, but its just going to continue, this kind of stuff. Its just mind numbing. Reporter meanwhile, the heated rhetoric between republicans and democrats still tracking back to what happened here on january 6th in the insurrection that has still left big scars on this building and this campus. The former president now defending himself in court, a lawsuit having to do with the insurrection, the former president s lawyers claiming that the former president has what they call absolute immunity under the First Amendment to say basically whatever he wanted during that time frame, to even claim that the election was stolen from him fraudulently because he was protected under the First Amendment. This is the first time that his lawyers have made that type of argument as it relates the events of january 6th. Ryan, thank you very much. Ryan nobles up on capitol hill. Lets discuss with cnn special correspondent jamie gangel and mia love, a former republican congresswoman. Jamie, you know a lot about whats going on in the gop. Trump is still the de facto leader of the gop. Cyrus vance, the Manhattan District Attorney, formally convening a grand jury to investigate potential criminal charges against trump. How is this playing . This is terrible news for donald trump and its certainly not good news for the Republican Party. One of the things that were hearing about this is that it is an expansive grand jury, that its going to go on for more than six months, that theyre looking into his Business Practices before he was president , possible bank fraud, taxes, compensation for executives. That caught my eye because who are some of the executives . Alan weisselberg, the accountant, the chief financial officer. His children are executives of the company. I actually just reached out to Michael Cohen, his former lawyer, who always has something to say, wolf. I asked him about it and he said, quote, unable to discuss at this time. Maybe he doesnt know anything, maybe hes going to be called for that grand jury. I suspect he probably has been called several times in relation to this. Mia, whats your reaction . Can the former president be the effective kingmaker in the Republican Party if hes facing potentially criminal indictment . Well, it depends on the gop. If the gop continues to talk about President Trump, to continue to use President Trump to help them in elections, to continue to talk about his style and his way of policy, yes, its going to hurt. But i see this as an opportunity for the gop to say youve got a lot to deal with, we dont want to be in the middle of it. You should take care of that and let us start turning the page and getting away from the former president and Start Talking about the future. Kevin mccarthy said he wanted to do that. I think this is the perfect opportunity for him to say, youve got your own issues, weve got our own work to do. Jamie, lets get to this other issue, the explosive, awful, disgusting comments by this republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor green. It has now been five days since she began, then she doubled down, tripled down, quadrupled down, but five days later the Republican Leadership finally condemning her. My republican sources have been furious at Kevin Mccarthy. They say this is really too little too late. I spoke to both House Members and gop donors. Im told they were increasingly embarrassed, that they were reaching out to kevin to finally Say Something and he did. Just to quote one, i asked do you think this will go further, do you think he will finally expel her from the conference . One source said, kevin should do it, but i doubt he will. A second source said donald trump likes her, Marjorie Taylor green, he supports her, and kevin doesnt want to upset donald trump. Why did it take five days to do the right thing . Five days. Of course this is what i honestly believe happened. In conference, there was a showdown where they said, if you can do this, if you can get rid of liz cheney, you better do something about Marjorie Taylor green. To sit there and actually compare Wearing Masks to the killing of so many people, so many jewish people is absolutely absurd. Finally he did the right thing. Finally. Thats the keyword. Guys, thank you very much. Up next, with half of all adults here in the United States now fully vaccinated, how close can we get to 100 . Were going to break down the challenges when we come back. Not everybody wants the same thing. Thats why i go with Liberty Mutual they customize my Car Insurance so i only pay for what i need. cause i do things a bit differently. Wet teddy bears wet teddy bears here only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. We know how much you count on us. And thats why were here 24 7. And on the road maintaining a fast and reliable network. Were always working to ensure the internet meets your needs. 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I think the work ahead of us is going to be really challenging, because while the people who are fully vaccinated are well protected, we still have to keep on convincing individuals who are not yet vaccinated that they are not safe. The pandemic is not over for them. Actually, a Washington Post analysis this weekend found that when you take out the people who are vaccinated, the risk to people who are unvaccinated looks about the same as in the middle of the surge in january. So for those individuals, i hope they will take heed and get vaccinated as soon as possible and in the meantime to keep on masking and distancing and practicing these safety precautions, because they are still at high risk of getting infected. Another significant development, moderna now says its vaccine is safe and appears to be effective for children ages 12 to 17. With the addition of a second authorized vaccine for this Age Group Help Combat Hesitancy . I think it does provide more reassurance. We have increasing data now of more than 3,000 adolescents studied in the moderna child that these vaccines are safe and they are effective. I also think as teens get vaccinated, theyre going to start showing selfies and videos. I hope theyll do even more of things like that in order to convince their peers about how vaccination for them is a way to get back to prepandemic normal and to engage in sports and do sleepovers and birthdays and other things they may have missed. A new axios poll shows only 30 of people trust people outside their close circle to be honest about their vaccination status. Only 24 said they trust travelers in airports. Whats the solution to this flaw in the honor system . Well, frankly, i agree with The Americans who say they dont trust the others around them, because we have 50 of people who are fully vaccinated of adults who are fully vaccinated, so if youre in a Sporting Event or a restaurant and no one around you is Wearing Masks, i dont trust all those people are vaccinated. I really wish that the Biden Administration had come out much earlier with a way for us to verify vaccination. I think that at this point we should expect the private sector to really step up and do this. I would feel a lot more comfortable getting on a plane and be willing to pay more for a flight where everybody is fully vaccinated. I think a lot of people would feel more comfortable if theyre going to be shoulder to shoulder with people unvaccinated and potentially unmasked if there is some kind of proof of vaccination. Thats an important point. Thank you very much. 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Reporter no one has been charged in relationshi to ronal death. That senior officer lieutenant john clary who arrived on the scene did not initially report his own Body Camera Footage in evidence submitted to the local district attorney, thats according to the spokesperson from the Louisiana State police. This is very disturbing. It really validates that is cover up. How is that missed after so long . Reporter it is not clear why Lieutenant Clary praised the other officers at the scene. Lieutenant clary arrived used physical force to detain greene during the 2019 incident had three body camera videos, showing troopers Still Holding greene to the ground and showing greene moaning and depicting officers explaining why they did not sit greene up right. Reporter greene died on the way to the hospital after being punched, kicked and tased and restrain to the ground. Reporter they are conducting internal reviews to determine why Lieutenant Clary did not report his video. Hes accused of lying of another aspect of that incident. The alleged that when he arrives that ronald was resisting arrest that additional force is necessary in order to get him under control. What you find in the actual Body Cam Footage was that ronald was already in handcuffs. He was fully complying. Reporter cnn has reached out but has not been able to get comment from Lieutenant Clary and the two other surviving officers involved or their attorneys. Brian todd, thank you very much, more news right after this. Every squeeze every smile every drop every style every spray every bubble every day dove, suave hellmanns donate everyday products to local communities. Every day u does good. Unilever did you know you can go to libertymutual. Com every day u does good. To customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need . Really . I didnt aah ok. Im on vibrate. Aaah only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. [sfx kids laughing] [sfx bikes passing] [sfx fire truck siren] onstar, we see them. Okay. Mother and child in vehicle. Mother is unable to exit the vehicle. Injuries are unknown. Thank you, onstar. My son, is he okay . Your sons fine. Thank you. There was something in the road. Its okay. Youre safe now. Sometimes they say, it might work, it might not work. And so i ask myself the question, like, why even get the vaccine, if it can also harm you . For me, its like taking a 50 50 chance. Hi andrea. Some say that the vaccine is harmful or that it might not work, but thats not true. Millions of people have been vaccinated with no ill effects. And i can tell you that getting the vaccine is far safer than not getting it. Erin burnett starts right now. Outfront tonight, we have breaking news, the Washington Post reporting the grand jury thats deciding whether or not to indict donald trump. 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