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Thank you so much for being here at this hour. A fragile ceasefire holds. But for how long . This morning there are new clashes between palestinians and israeli police in juice juice. Showing you this video of Police Firing Rubber bullets and Stun Grenades in response to what they say was a riot. This is just today. More than a dozen people reportedly injured. This comes just hours after a ceasefire set in, pausing the most intense conflict between israel and hamas in years. But not before more than 200 people were killed. Most of them palestinians. Leaving israeli and palestinians further apart than ever. This morning israeli prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the 11day Conflict with hamas an exceptional success, the Operation Put against hamas there. Cnns Nic Robertson is joining me for more on where things stand live near the israel gaza border. What are you seeing there . Reporter kate, if there was going to be a flashpoint to reignite the conflict it would have been that we saw in jerusalem today, the confrontation between palestinians and israeli police and Border Police on the temple mount. Very sacred site. This has been essentially hamass warning to israeli authorities to stay their hand in that particular area. But hamas Supporters Today in jerusalem were celebrating what they feel theyve achieved during the past 11 days of conflict. It really does seem as if hamas looks at that today and is not going to reignite the conflict. Thats how it looks at this moment. Looking where i am standing here just outside the border with gaza, these Artillery Pieces and infantry vehicles were on the hills deployed just yesterday, Artillery Pointing toward gaza. It is not now. They are parked and ready to leave this field here with their ammunition all packed up at the moment. What im finding from talking to israeli citizens close to here is concern that their government they feel signed this ceasefire too soon. They still feel unsafe and think it would have been better if the government had continued its military attacks on hamas because that is the only way they think they have security in the short and medium term. The reality is there is a ceasefire in gaza but the underlying problems, Land Rights issues that underpin so much of what goes on here, those are not being addressed at the moment. Maybe in the future but not right now, kate. Thank you for your reporting, nic. Joining me for more is the former u. S. Ambassador to israel, former Middle East Peace Envoy in the obama administration. Ambassador, thank you for being here. We are already seeing and showing folks new clashes in jerusalem today. Gaza from new video we also have from this morning is in shambles. If the ceasefire holds, what was gained . What was lost . Good morning, kate. Thank you for having me. I think that the Flash Point shows you how fragile things are. In terms of what was gained what you have now is both sides trying to spin the record for their own purposes. Netanyahu has reported a great victory achieved and hamas is saying almost the same things on their airwaves to the Arab World that they were the sort of that they put israelis into shelters, half of israels population, disrupted commercial airline traffic, and ignited conflict between jews and Roishs Wiroishs arabs within israel. Both sides are going to claim victory but in terms of what was gained i would say in terms of anything thats changed we are going back i think to the status quo. Both sides will start to rebuild, maybe well have five years of quiet like last time but the same equation of quiet for quiet and nothing else seems to be all that well end up with as a result of this conflict. Last Night President biden pledged to work with the united Fl Nation and allies to help rebuild gaza. We will do this in full partnership with the Palestinian Authority not hamas, the authority, in a manner that does not permit hamas to simply restock its military arsenal. It is important and an important statement to be made but i am left wondering how does the biden administration do that, ambassador . What will be different this time . Beats the hell out of me. Hamas Controls Gaza. The Palestinian Authority is its rival. While it is a good idea in principle, to try to reintroduce the palestinian Authoritys Control in gaza, because it is committed to negotiating peace with israel whereas hamas is determined to eliminate israel one way or the other nevertheless as long as hamas Controls Gaza and nothing was done during this conflict to shake that control in any way, its difficult to see how the Palestinian Authority is going to move back into gaza even if the united states does support it. Hamas needs to reconstruct gaza, needs to take care of the people there because they are responsible for that. And so they are going to want reconstruction paid and so the united states does have some leverage on hamas but whether it can succeed in distributing that aid through the Palestinian Authority, which has no authority in gaza, seems to me to be a stretch at this point. Looking into israel for a second, ambassador, youve said, and it really has had me thinking, youve said that it is entirely possible that Benjamin Netanyahu uses this conflict to somehow maintain power. What do you mean . Well, you know, i think that it looks like israel is headed into a fifth election in two years. The previous four elections were inconclusive. Netanyahu failed to form a right wing religious government, which was what he was trying to do. Even now he cannot do that. So to the extent that the conflict strengthens the right Wing Shift of the israeli electorate supporting his view there is no peace to be had here and no alternative but taking a hard line he may just be able to shift the needle enough to get more votes even the majority. But it is not clear yet. That is part of the reason he is out there touting this as a great victory because he is looking at the potential of going back to the polls and he wants to claim that he is the one who can lead israel in these difficult circumstances. Whereas it may be that people say, what has he done . How has he achieved anything for us . We are just back in the same old Situation And Hamas is still going to have its rockets and be able to threaten us. Ambassador, you so perfectly lay out how many motivations there are on the ground and how complicated it. Thank you. That is what is happening overseas. But the Conflict And Crisis is sparking hatefilled violence here in america. A new wave of antisemitic attacks in multiple u. S. Cities in just the past week. In new York Police are investigating a Gang Assault of a jewish man in Times Square as a possible hate crime. That assault happened near a large demonstration taking place after the ceasefire was announced yesterday. Police said they made multiple arrests after pro israeli and pro palestinian protesters clashed. This is the middle of New York city. In Los Angeles an attack tuesday on people eating sushi outside a restaurant. This also being investigated as an antisemitic hate crime. You can feel the rage and anger. Police are also investigating an encounter monday in l. A. When at least two vehicles chased a jewish man down The Street shouting antijewish slurs. The man was forced to run for his life. Joining me now is the ceo and national director of the antidefamation league. Jonathan, thats not the only videos we could show. It is horrible what is happening. I know you are tracking more incidents even beyond l. A. And New York. What do you say about this . Yes, kate. Im glad youre covering this issue because it hasnt gotten nearly enough attention in the past week. The reality is that the adl has been Tracking Hate for over A Hundred years and we have seen a dangerous and drastic spike in antisemitism here at home in just the past week to ten days. Were literally tracking more than a 50 increase in antisemitic acts over the past week. And again, just so were clear, were seeing many more incidents than the ones you described. Incidents in illinois, other ones in New York. In florida. In big cities and small towns all over the country, acts of harassment, vandalism of jewish homes and synagogues. Assaults on people in broad daylight. There was one report of cars driving through jewish neighborhoods in Los Angeles Throwing Bottles at homes that had the jewish mizuza on the doors literally picking out those jewish homes that could be identified and hurling bottles at them. Like this is unacceptable. You can have heated debates about Middle East policy but just so were clear when you target people, because they are jews, that is not activism. Its antisemitism. It needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. To your point apart from the actual Violence And Harassment i think the most disturbing element i have heard of the antisemitic attack in l. A. Is one witness told has said that dozens of men ran from the caravan toward the Restaurant Asking whos jewish . Correct. That should terrify jews and nonjews alike. Jews are familiar with this, being called out, held to account, being held collectively responsible. You know, if you are jewish somehow you are guilty. It is textbook antisemitism, kate. And literally, this is happening the week, the day, just Yesterday President biden signed into law the Covid19 Hate crimes act. It was literally prompted by People Holding Asian Americans collectively responsible for these Craze Ip Conspiracy theories about the virus. Holding jews collectively responsible for the events in the Middle East is depraved and disgusting. I dont care whether you are a jewish leader, muslim leader, christian leader. I dont care what community you come from. All of us need to speak out strongly and stand up against this kind of victimization. Now adl, were not only tracking it off line, on the ground, in The Streets. What we are seeing online is equally horrifying. Last week alone 17,000 plus tweets saying some derivation saying hitler was right for Slaughtering Jews and stuff that is so toxic I Cant say it on your show today. We are working with law enforcement, kmunlt leaders, social media companies, community leaders, doing in our power to track people, push out the prejudice, and make sure the hashtags are brought down, the memes are taken out, and those who commit crimes are brought to justice. It must be called out. If it is ignored, it allows the hate to fester. Thats right. Jonathan, thank you so much. Thank you for covering the story. Of course. We will continue. Coming up for us the death of a black man at the hands of police. Tased, beaten, dragged by officers who then lied about how he died. Two years later ronald Greenes Family is still searching for answers. His mother joins us next. My son was murdered. Those are the haunting words from ronald Greenes Mother. The 49yearold Man who died in Police Custody following a high Speed Chase in louisiana two years ago. The Body Cam Video is hard to watch but it is impossible to ignore. Here is just some of it. Get on the Ground Taser Taser taser. Ah ah put your hands behind your back. Behind your back. Ah the video Shows Greene being tased, kicked, dragged by state troopers. At one point he cries out to the officers saying, im sorry. Im scared. Im your brother. Again, this was two years ago. A year before, Minneapolis Police murdered george floyd. In both cases officers lied in their initial police reports. In the case of greene the family says police told them he died in a car crash. A State Official with knowledge of the investigation tells cnn that Louisiana State police started investigating the incident as a criminal matter the night it happened. State police claim the investigation is still under way and the release of the video, they say, is premature in their view. The only reason we are even seeing this video is because it was obtained by the associated press. What now . Joining me now is ronald Greenes Mother and the familys attorney. Thank you for being here. There is no way it gets any easier having to hear and see any of that tape again. When did you begin to suspect the story that you were being told about your son was incorrect . Within hours we were making our way to louisiana, the pieces never fit. We werent able to make contact with anyone. Our first Phone Conversation was with from there she was letting us Know Ronnie was being sent to the state of arkansas for a first autopsy and this was within a couple hours after we got the news. And we told them not to move him. We are on our way. I want to see my son. Dont touch him before we get there. And we didnt she wouldnt give us any numbers, any emails, anything. And also the fact that we have someone in the state Of Louisiana who was there at Glenwood Medical Center that told us that he Saw Ronnie and comments were made by the attending physician that none of the pieces fit. Can you just also then describe what it felt like to have been stonewalled and ignored and really alone for two years and trying to get the real answer of how and why your son died . You know, we asked at first when the two officers told us ronnie was in a high Speed Chase and behind that his car crashed into a tree, he died from head injuries. And ever since then, all that has happened has led us to where we are now. Its awful listening to my son scream. I heard that last year, september, and the fact that its been covered under the rug, im anger doesnt describe how me and my family feel for the fact this has been a coverup from the very moment it happened. My son wasnt meant to walk away from that. He was purposely killed. He was murdered. Lee, you mentioned in the break ahead of just before this segment you mentioned to me you are just becoming aware of new video that is coming out. What is it . What has to be understood is that first as you pointed out this case is well over two years old. While the Louisiana State police have bemoaned the fact this video is coming out to the public their investigation and actions they planned to take from the investigation, which was a fivemonth suspension for one officer and one officer being terminated, has already that discipline has already been meted out. We dont know of any ongoing investigation at the State Level to bring criminal charges against the men involved. That is what were pushing for. As this evidence comes out we are matching it with the facts that we have in our civil suit. Were pressuring jeff lowry, i believe, the Attorney General for louisiana, to continue to bring charges or pursue charges against these men and for the governor to take action. The video we just learned about, there is a new video from lieutenant John Clary who would have been the supervising officer responding to the scene. He came on to the scene while ron was still alive and he was still being brutalized by three officers. He noted in this video that youll see soon that we believe will be published by the ap shortly, we just gave them permission to go ahead and publish. Its three officers covered in blood. He doesnt have a problem with the fact theyre covered in blood. He continues to tell them to leave rob in a prone position because he was afraid he might spit up more blood on them. Just the sheer callousness of leadership on down reminds us that this isnt an individual problem. This isnt a bad apple problem. Its not even three bad apples. It is a whole system designed to justify this action and to cover it up. And this video, correct me if im wrong, would fill in some of the gaps you dont have from the other Body Cam Video of what they describe having blood on them as i understand in the video, the ap has already obtained and put out portions of, but this gives an entirely new perspective from an officer that just came upon the scene. Thats right. As Officer Or Lieutenant clary begins to walk on to the scene, he encounters one officer immediately and asks how are you doing because he noticed he is covered in blood. The officer says sort of gleefully im just cleaning off the blood. Thats what was going on when he arrived. He told the officers that they had done a good job. He said they had done a good job . As Ronald Greene is still in a prone position . As he is still moaning and being told to lay on his belly by officer york, in a position which everyone knows would have limited his breathing. He was commending the officers for what a great job they had done. So this is news to all of us. We will be looking for the video when it is released and bring it to our viewers when we can get our hands on it. Lee, thank you very much. I believe in the middle of our conversation unfortunately the shot with mona went down. So, please. Thank Mona Hardin Ronald Greens Mother for us as well. Thank you very much for your time. Much to follow up on now. Thank you. All right. Still to come for us the Justice Department under President Trump secretly investigates one of our colleagues and we are just learning about it now. A member of house the House Intelligence Committee joins me next. Try boost Glucose Control. The patented blend is clinically shown to help manage Blood Sugar levels. 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Were Learning Prosecutors secretly obtained private Phone And Email records of our Cnn Colleague Pentagon correspondent barbara starr. Those records covered her conversations from june and july of 2017. Starr wasnt told of this until last week. In a statement Cnns President Jeff Zucker says this. Cnn strongly condemns the secret collection of any aspect of a Journalists Correspondence clearly protected by the first amendment. We are asking for an immediate meeting with the Justice Department for an explanation. What is unclear still is why this was done and why it was allowed to be kept secret. Joining me right now is democratic congressman from connecticut jim himes. Congressman, thank you for coming in. You sit on the House Intelligence Committee. What is your reaction to this . Good morning, kate. Its completely unacceptable. It is a pattern, right . We saw a couple weeks ago that the department of justice had secretly sought the records of the Washington Post reporters. The reason, you know, you read Jeff Zuckers statement there, the reason it is completely unacceptable is, yes, the constitution, but even as importantly the fact that through our history all State Courts of Skull Dugary and Fraud And Deception from the Pentagon Papers where d. C. Was lying about the Vietnam War to low Level Corruption gets exposed because the media, the press is out there telling that story. And if sources and the press believe that as a routine matter their identities could be disclosed, that all comes to a halt. Let me be clear here. The passing on of Classified Information is of course illegal. But this is not a tool that we want in the Tool Box of the department of justice. No. It has a real and true Chilling Effect on being able to keep government accountable. It really does. That is exactly right. I dont want to speculate as to the motivations of Attorney General barr or sessions but it is possible, it is in the realm of possible given what we know about those Attorneys General that this is done because the president was angry about something critical of him. Theres just a wide array of reasons why this is an unacceptable thing for the doj to have done. That Barbara Wasnt aware of it until now is terrifying. I want to ask about the January 6th commission. I was struck yesterday when Speaker Pelosi was hopeful that despite the current math in the senate that somehow she thinks they could still find a way to pass the bill forming the commission through the senate. Are you hopeful, congressman . Well, im certainly hopeful. Im not sure im confident but certainly hopeful. What happened on January 6th and i was there, one of the last guys off the floor of the House Of Representatives was a unique and historical moment in all the wrong ways for this country. 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If theyre admitting this they clearly do not think it hurts them politically to take this position. You know, they are being honest about what everybody knows. There is no squuftification. The idea that somehow an attack on the united States Capitol is equivalent to and should be examined by the same body that looks into riots in portland is absurd on the face of it. Both acts are wrong. One was sponsored by a united States President , a Core Attack on our democracy. By the way, Nancy Pelosi in the negotiations Kevin Mccarthy the Minority Leader sends a letter saying do these three things and ill support it. She does those three things. A republican representative John Catco negotiates this with the democratic Committee Chair and they say no because they realize that getting in the face of Donald Trump pushes that party toward extinction. They are in a terrible vice. 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We have all of the details. There are a lot of moving parts. What are you learning . Reporter in a letter filed late Last Night prosecutors are defending the multiple Search Warrants executed on Rudy Guiliani and his ally a lawyer named victoria tensing. Prosecutors had searched Cove Ertly their icloud and files last month. They are saying the court found probable cause their devices and accounts contain evidence of specified federal crimes. Prosecutors really leaning in saying they believe there is evidence of crimes on these devices. So what did they get . They got 18 electronic devices from Rudy Guiliani, some of those devices belonging to some of his employees. So far prosecutors say they have processed 11 of the devices, down loaded the materials and returned them to guiliani. Seven others are password protected and asked him for assistance in opening up the devices otherwise they may be sent to quantico for the Fbis Team of Code Crackers to get into them. The other ongoing investigation is into Allen Weisselberg involved in two criminal investigations, one involving his role as Chief Financial Officer of the trump organization. Another one into his personal taxes. The one into the taxes has stemmed in part from information provided by his former daughterinlaw. She spoke Last Night to Erin Burnett and said that Donald Trump and Allen Weisselberg are one and the same and when asked if she thought weisselberg would cooperate against the former president she said without hesitation yes. That is the Big Question for prosecutors as they continue to dig into Allen Weisselberg and the trump organization. We should be clear, kate, Allen Weisselberg has not been accused of any wrongdoing. Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Great reporting. Up next for us four months in how do americans feel President Biden is doing . New Poll Numbers offer a remarkably clear picture. Ed of. 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The president s latest approval rating, sitting at 54 . Remarkably steady as you can see right there since he took office four months ago. What does this mean . Let me bring in cnns political Director And Cohost of the politically sound podcast. So, david, you drilled this into my head every time. Polling is never about a single survey but the trend over time and the trends here seem to be clear. Bidens Approval Numbers are steady. What is behind it . Steady and successful, right . Majority support. Youre right. Pollsters use the Expression Trend is your friend. And it does tell you the larger story here. You noted we live in polarized times right now. No doubt about that, kate. We saw this when Donald Trump was president as well. Where he was steady over time remarkably steady. He was steady with below never getting Majority Support approval from the country. Joe bidens above Majority Support here obviously above 50 so this is the kind of steady any president would prefer. But it shows you in a world where you are not going to get much of the support from the other party i think 8 in the Gallup Poll of republicans approve of the job Joe Biden is doing, it shows you how important winning the middle is and that is what Joe Biden is doing and Donald Trump had a hard time doing. Joe biden is winning the middle now and independents and that is helping him stay above Majority Support. Joe biden just spoke with David Brooks of the New York times and that really gets at his world view. I want to read just one line of what he said in this conversation. The risk is not trying to go big. If you stay small, i dont know how we change our international status and competitive capacity. I read this because you have pointed out, david, this conversation that biden has here really gets at what we are talking about. Bidens popularity right now, kate, is because he is doing popular things. Obviously nothing is more successful for him than defeating the coronavirus and getting the vaccine out. That is giving him a lift no doubt about it. But, also, his economic program getting stimulus checks out to people. That was a popular thing. Even pieces of his Infrastructure Plan in The American jobs act and The American family plan, theyre popular, broadly, with The American people. So doing popular things but in this conversation with David Brooks i think weve got insight into what is driving that which is that Joe Biden sees it as a mission critical to deal with some of the long held inequities in The American economy and trying to address that income inequality, racial inequities in the economy, really trying to address that because he believes that threatens americans he think it is thinks the only way to it hasnt been smooth sailing since taking office. Theres a problematic surge of migrants at the border, a series of mass shootings that hes had to face and deal with, the conversation of Gun Violence and Gun Rights again, cyberattack that let to this Gas Shortage were just getting over. Does this Polling Trend show these bumps in the road, like hes inoculated from this, that hes not in political trouble yet. We take out the noise of momentary bumps and he isnt taking on water in his overall approval. Immigration and guns, by far the two worst issues when you poll the different policy areas, he does not have anywhere close to Majority Support, hes upside down in those areas but its not impacting hes not taking on water with his overall approval with The American public, even though those particular issue areas are a problem, and again, when you see that steady successful Approval Line over time, it kind of answers your question that even those bumps along the way, as you said, theyre not actually causing him real political damage at the moment, broadly with The American electorate. Set your calendar, david will be back in four more months. Thanks, great to see you. Coming up, Prince William and Prince Harry are not holding back, why they say the bbc contributed to their mothers death. The united states has the highest Incarceration Rate in the world, many inmates face a new set of challenges once theyre released. 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Com. Cal our confident forever plan is possible with a cfp® professional. A cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. Visit letsmakeaplan. Org to find your cfp® professional. Prince william and Prince Harry pointing right at the bbc drawing a direct link from the broadcaster to what happened to their mother, Princess Diana and in a new interview Prince Harry is talking in a way we hadnt heard before about the drugs and alcohol he leaned on to numb his pain. Max foster is joining me with more. William and harry a blaming the bbc for playing a role in their moms death, explain this. Theres two different elements and each is focusing on a different one really. Fundamental deceit that diana was lied to, and then that led to the interview. Prince Williams Concern is more about how the bbc was aware of that deceit, and covered it up so diana went to her grave without knowing that shed been deceived. Thats whats really infuriated him. Lets hear what he said in his statement Last Night. It brings indescribable sadness to know that the bbcs failures contributed significantly to her fear, par N Paranoia and isolation that i remember from those final years with her. Prince harry more focused on the deceit itself saying the ripple effects of a culture of exploitation and unethical practice ultimately took her life, our mother lost her life because of this, and nothing has changed. Hes not saying panorama, but the tactics he says normally criticizing the Tabloid Media in this context, still having that effect. These two brothers, you can imagine the pain this interview and even more so the death of course had on them. Harrys been talking to Oprah Winfrey in a new Streaming Show about mental health, how he actually turned to alcohol because he just wanted to escape the feelings after dianas death. I was willing to drink, i was willing to take drugs, i was willing to try and do the things that made me feel less like i was feeling. But i slowly became aware that, okay, i wasnt drinking monday to friday, but i would probably drink a weeks worth in one day on a friday or a saturday night. In the same Program Harry has also talked about a conspiracy against his wife on behalf of the palace, the royal family, and the media, to undermine her with these allegations of bullying being leveled against her, being investigated by a law firm. Max, thank you very much for that and thank you so much for joining us today, everyone, im kate bolduan, John King picks up right now. Hello, everybody, welcome to inside politics, im John King in washington, thank you for sharing a very busy friday with us. The president meets with the White House this hour. Big important Policy Questions top the agenda. How is biden different from trump when it comes to north korea, nuclear

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