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Yeah. So, i think they should be like, we are just sitting around talking. I am talking to my friends at home. And my friends at home are probably not in a suit, because its the end of the day. Workday is over. Suit and tie is over. They will probably ask you why you are in the sweater in the middle of may. Well, its chilly here. You want to know the temperature in new York City . 60 degrees. Still, its chilly outside. Lets see. Its i like it. So this may be the look every night . Yeah. What do you think . You hating . Good looking. I also think that it is irrelevant to people. I this is one of the vestiges of tv when most the places that matter most in this country, when you see somebody in a suit and tie, it usually means something bads going to happen. I wear this every night because i believe, one, in the uniform. The identifiable nature of it and i dont give a beep what people think. But seriously, i do think that we sometimes, i watch us and im like, wow, were so formal. I am at home watching in my sweatpants and look at Dana Bash up there. Shes a beautiful woman and when i see her in our personal lives, im like, wow, dana, you look great without all the Makeup And Hair on cnn. And i would just like people to see Dana Or Nia or anybody. Erin burnett is a beautiful woman. Every night, she comes on with the makeup and the hair. And when i see her between shows, i am like wow, erin is so beautiful without all of that. I dont see looks, i only see intelligence. And i see you and i am like, man, that guy is ugly. He needs to be wearing a tuxedo to help himself out. Ucla did a study that said i am extremely attractive. Well, its ucla. Please. I got something i am going to say at the end of the show, and i want everybody to tune in. So tonight, you are saying something at the end of the show . End of the show. And there will be more to come. Ill tell ya, over the weekend. And theres more to come over the weekend. But it involves us, too. It involves it involves you but well see. And its not Bad News . Im not no. I mean, come on. Well, if its Bad News, i think you should give people a little bit of a its not Bad News. Did you know that, in texas, it is an equal violation to play loud music in your home, as it is to own a tiger . Can you believe that . Think about that. Hey, man, will you get over here right away . This don lemon. He wont stop playing the doobie brothers. Versus, hey, man, will you get over here . Theres a tiger in my yard, man. All right, chris baskin. They are both Class C violations. I just talked to this lawyer. Can you believe that, in texas, its the same wrong . Yeah, but texas is becoming florida. Its kind of weird. Florida, I Love You but, you know. A bengal tiger. Listen, i went to lsu. Yeah but that doesnt mean you want one in your yard. D lemon, I Love You. Open collar and all. I feel so much more relaxed and candid. There you go. Goodbye. Love you, too. This is Cnn Tonight. I am don lemon. And, boy, this week. Come on, lets think about it. We are seeing two different americas. The real america. And alternativereality america. And its up to us to decide, which america we want to live in. You know, we have got a handful of truthtellers. Just a handful. Going up against a Clown Show of liars and deniers. Is america going to believe the rants of people, like qanon congresswoman, jewishspace lasers, Marjorie Taylor Greene . Cnns kfile has amazing, newlyunearthed video of her. This is in 2019. This was before she was elected, by the way. Going nuts outside the office of congresswoman Alexandria Ocasiocortez, taunting her staff through the Mail Slot of her office door. Watch this. Alexandria ocasiocortez, im an american citizen. I pay your salary, through the taxes that you collect from me, through the irs. You need to stop being a baby, and stop locking your door. And come out and face the american citizens, that you serve. If you want to be a big girl, you need to get rid of your diaper, and come out and be able to talk to the american citizens. Instead of us having to use a flap. A little flap. One day, shes going to mess with the wrong one. Im just saying. And her name is ocasio, not ocasio. That was before she was elected to congress but she is still pulling stunts like that even today. Confronting aoc outside the House Chamber just this week. A Wash Post Reporter who witnessed the whole thing saying greene chased down ocasiocortez, aggressively yelling at her. Asking why she supports antifa and black lives matter. Falsely, labeling them taerrorit groups. Fal falsely. Aoc reacting today. This is a woman thats deeply [ inaudible ] and clearly needs some help. I you know, i and her kind of fixation has lasted for several years, now. You know, its at this point, i think the the the depth of that unwellness has raised concerns for other members, as well. And so, you know, i think that this is an assessment that needs to be made by the proper professionals. So, she called them terrorists but then, she doesnt call the actual terrorists, terrorists, meaning the Insurrectionists Who stormed the capitol on January 6th. Theyre not terrorists. Okay, marjorie. Chasing a fellow congresswoman down the hall, yelling. Pulling a publicityseeking stunt. This is all about publicity. And by the way, it its always a struggle. Like, how much should i cover this and talk about it . Because thats what she wants. But then, what shes doing is just so egregious and ridiculous and embarrassing, and should be called out. Thats the dilemma, that we face every night, here, on this show. Should we give her a platform . But its, also, worth calling out. Anyway, taunting someone at her office door. Its embarrassing. Compare that to Liz Cheney, though. Liz cheney lost her Leadership Position in the gop, because she refused to go along with her Partys Embrace of the Disgracedformer President , and his electiondenying lies that fueled the deadly insurrection at the capitol. Liz cheney, who put duty over Party And Truth over lies. Watch. This is duty. And and its about truth. And we have had a collapse of truth, in this country. We weve, you know, seen an evolution of, you know, general situation where Conspiracy Theories are rampant. Where people, good people, in a lot of instances, you know, have been misled and believe things that are not true. And and so, i think that that we all have an obligation to make sure were doing everything we can to convey The Truth. To stand for The Truth. And to stand for the the constitution and our obligations. Let me just say this. Thank you, Liz Cheney. I have been saying this, forever. We live in a posttruth world, right now. Society. And i dont know if we can get back to The Truth and reality. But we do people invent their own reality, and try to live in it, right . Liz cheney saying that we have an obligation to stand for The Truth. What does it say about america, right now . That Liz Cheney has to argue that we should stand for truth . You would think there wouldnt be any argument about that. But we have, all, seen what happens when the lies take over. So we saw, with our own eyes, what happened when Insurrectionists Incited lies, stormed the capitol, attacking Hero Police officers, who were trying to defend the seat of our democracy. Hero police officers, like officer michael fanone. You heard what he said about the january6th deniers in congress. Who are trying to sweep one of the darkest days in our history, under the rug. Im not a politician. Im not an elected official. I dont expect anybody to give two shits about my opinions. But i will say this. You know, those are lies. And peddling that bullshit is an assault on every officer that fought to defend the capitol. Its disgraceful. Amen, brother. Is america going to believe The Truth, spoken by Officer Fanone . The truth, spoken by Liz Cheney . Or the lies, spoken by the deniers . There was no insurrection. And to call it an insurrection, in my opinion, is a boldfaced lie. Outright propaganda and lies are being used to unleash the Nationalsecurity State against lawabiding u. S. Citizens. Especially, trump voters. As a result, the doj has harassing harassing peaceful patriots across the country. It was trumps supporters who lost their lives, that day, not trump supporters who were taking the lives of others. When i see this sheet, on our timeline, and on the lets see okay at 2 07, a Mob Of Trump supporters breached the steps. I dont know who did a poll. That its trump supporters. Blatant lies. Or, as the old head heads would say, like, you know, my uncles and mom and whatever. They would say, thats a damn lie. It is. Its a damn lie. Lies about brutal attacks, of brutal attack on american heroes. Lies about bloodthirsty Insurrectionists Who stormed the halls of congress, who put up a Gallows Outside and chanted, hang Mike Pence. Hang Mike Pence hang Mike Pence thats the awful truth. We all saw it. We all heard it. Yet, the gops deniers are, still, at it, again. There have been things worse than people without any firearms coming into a building. No shame. Spineless leaders, like Kevin Mccarthy, wont do anything about the lies either. He says he hasnt read the legislation to create a bipartisan commission to investigate the insurrection. Hmm. You know, the attack that put the lives of members of congress in peril . I have to no, i have to read through it. I havent read through it. He hasnt read through it. Well, yesterday, he said he didnt know what happened when Marjorie Taylor Greene chased Alexandria Ocasiocortez yelling at her outside the House Chamber. He said he didnt know what Congressman Andrew Clyde said comparing the insurrection to a tourist visit. He said, No One is denying Joe Biden won the election. I dont think anybody is questioning the legitimacy of the president ial election. I think that is, all, over with. So, kevin, what, exactly, do you know . What do you know . Arent you the leader . And you dont know . You the leader and you dont know. Okay. You are the top republican in the house. And you sure seem to be in the dark about a lot of things. But, Liz Cheney says, tonight, mccarthy should testify before January 6th the January 6th commission. He, absolutely, should. And and i wouldnt be surprised if he were subpoenaed. I think that he, very clearly, and said publicly, that hes got information about the president s state of mind, that day. Lets remember, we learned, while the capitol was under attack, Kevin Mccarthy called the thenpresident , begging him to call off the mob. Trumps chilling response . Well, kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are. But today, Elise Stefanik, the congresswoman who took over Liz Cheneys Leadership Job thanked the disgraced, twiceimpeached, oneterm, former, insurrectioninspiring president , saying he is the leader republicans look to. Oh i forgot the word disgraced. Well, i guess, thats no surprise. Thats how she got her job. I, also, want to thank President Trump for his support. He is a critical part of our republican team. I believe that voters determine the leader of the republican party. And President Trump is the leader that they look to. I support President Trump. Voters support President Trump. He is an important voice in our republican party and we look forward to working with him. That, as americas divide, between reality and unreality, is on display even when it comes to covid. Congressional democrats, in both chambers of congress, have a 100 vaccination rate. Republicans in the senate are at 92 . But in the house, republicans are at just 44. 8 . 112 republicans didnt respond to cnns inquiries. While, in the real world, this week, in the real world, where theres truth. And competency. The president , Joe Biden, his administration moving ahead on the pandemic. The cdc saying fullyvaccinated people can go maskless, indoors and outdoors. And the president working for bipartisan bipartisanship. Meeting with leaders of the house and the senate working to get the economy back on track. Thats whats going on, in the real world. While, the other america is deep in denial and deception. Like i said, its up to us to decide which america we want to live in. The truth, versus lies. Lies, like the stunts, from publicityseeking, thirsty, qanoncongresswoman, Marjorie Taylor Greene. Will republicans ever do anything about behavior like this . Oh, well, bye. Byebye. Byebye, ocasiocortez. Byebye, baby. Byebye, baby. Byebye, little baby girl. Ocasiocortez. She went and hid. She couldnt take it. 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And come out and face the american citizens that you serve. If you want to be a big girl, you need to get rid of your diaper and come out and be able to talk to the american citizens. Instead of us having to use a flap. A little flap. Now, if this was anybody i know, i would pull them aside and say, hey, you okay . Even a child. This surfacing, just days after greene, again, harassed ocasiocortez outside the House Chamber. Lets discuss now, cnn senior political analyst, kirsten powers. Mark mckinnon. Good evening. And you know, look, kirsten, you know what . She she probably thinks this is cool. Her constituents probably thinks, oh, yeah, she is owning the its really just embarrassing and, i mean, who does this . Not even i mean, do Junior High School students do this . No one does it. I was thinking i think earlier, i called this childish but i am like thats unfair to children because children, generally, act better than this. It is absolutely embarrassing to watch. And that, this is a political party that doesnt do anything about this womans behavior. Where she is now, full on, harassing another member of congress. And they do nothing about it. It, absolutely, violates at least the understanding of decorum in congress, that once existed. And yet, the person whos getting disciplined through all of this is Liz Cheney. So, its its the contrast that really its the contrast, for me, i think. Its its that this this woman is allowed to do, pretty much, anything that she wants. And Liz Cheney, who is, you know, not my cup of tea, necessarily. But she is a conservativerepublican, who at least acts like a grownup and has some values. And they want nothing to do with her and they wont do anything about this woman. You know, its its like, mark, an unhinged, immature, internet troll. Yeah. Roaming the halls of congress. It its like, if if Parlor W Parler was a person. Exactly, don. What strikes me about Marjorie Taylor Laser Beams Behavior and so many other trump republicans and its really become more about a brand and a lifestyle than policy or ideas or ideology. I just want to quote Jonathan Lass today. He said republican voters, a group distinct from conservatives, no longer have any concrete outcomes they want from government. What they have, instead, is a lifestyle brand. And if you want to move up the ladder within a brand network, you dont do it by governing or making policy. You do it, by getting attention. Which is exactly what Matt Gaetz says, right . He says, you know, i dont get anything done by actually being in congress. I get stuff done by going on television. Same thing with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Same thing with is so many republicans. They dont even care about being in congress. They just see it as means to getting attention to further their brand. So, listen. Kirsten, Alexandria Ocasiocortez says that greene is, quote, deeply unwell. I am concerned about her perceptions of reality. Members of congress are openly questioning the fitness of their colleague to be there. And she is probably right to do so, dont you think . Yeah. Though, i think that its, in a way, letting her off the hook, a little bit. Because it it doesnt seem, to me, necessarily i mean, who knows . Maybe, she is, you know, mentally unwell or something. But she seems very calculating, to me. And she seems mean spirited and nasty and cruel. When you watch the way shes shes acting, in these videos. And and the things that she says. And so, i dont know that she is, necessarily, unwell, or not. And i guess, none of us can really diagnose her, from a distance. But i think shes responsible for her behavior. And i think she knows what shes doing. She seems to be somebody, who is is doing exactly what mark was just talking about. And what Jonathan Lass wrote about. Which is, she is just trying to get attention, and she just wants to, yeah, be be like, you know, a mini trump. And shes sort of filling that space that that that vacuum thats been left, a little bit, since he is not on Social Media. And doesnt have the access that he used to have, in terms of, you know, acting out, i guess. But its not, you know, i dont know. I mean, what do you think . Do you think that thats what it is . Because it seems i just feel like she knows what shes doing. I dont know. But i think i think this is the response from everyone from probably her kids, to people on the same side or opposite side. Like, oh, god. Oh, my god. Oh, god. Like, thats what they are saying with Marjorie Taylor Greene. Like, oh, my god, shes like, could she just stop . Like, people are mumbling under their breath going this woman is so embarrassing. Does she not have any shame . I think thats yeah, but why dont they do something about it . I mean, in congress, there are rules, right . Same reason they wont do anything about trump. I mean, cause, you know but, guys, the the thats the exact point and thats the problem for the republican party. If you dont do something about the extremes, you are defined by the extremes. So, by not pushing back on them. By not penalizing them and penalizing Liz Cheney, they are becoming defined by Marjorie Taylor Greene. But, mark. Here here, this is the whole thing. The whole thin,g, in a Nutshell Mark and kirsten. All of it, Everysingle Bit of it is a grift. So, she is like, this is really cool. I can do it. And i am going to own the livs and the people who support me, they are going to love it. And trump is going to love it. And everybody like, i am going to get on tv and the medias going to its all a grift. Its not about policy. Its not about having values. Its not about believing in anything. Its about yourself, the audience of one, and about owning the libs. Or its just it doesnt it doesnt stand for fiscal conservatism. It doesnt stand for family values. Because anybody who cares about family and Values Wouldnt do something like that because they would tell their kids to do the exact opposite. So its not about that. Its, all, a grift. And its like a big, giant, ponzi scheme. Its its going to fall, one day. But well see. Well see. Thank you. Mark. Thank you, kirsten. You, too. I will see you soon. How did the gop get to this point . Well, Take A Look at this. We are going to Take A Look at that, i should say, with there he is. Take a look at that. Fareed zakaria. He is coming up, right after the break. Our block. Our place. Our people. Watch the curb. Not having a ride to get the vaccine. Cant be the reason you dont get it. You wanna help . Donate a ride today. Immigrants have done so much for america during this pandemic and throughout our history. Weve delivered food to table, cared for the sick, and been on the front lines. America is our home. Its time to keep americas promise. 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It its been a headspinning week, really. Republicans booting cheney for speaking The Truth. They are whitewashing the insurrection. Marjorie Taylor Greene is adding to her growing list of confrontations. Its like one party has become a total circus. How is our democracy supposed to function with all of this madness . Well, its a very good question, don. Because, historically, democracy worked when you had Political Parties that managed their extremes. That is really the function of a political party. Is to discipline its members. Thats why you have primaries. Thats why you have rules. Thats why you have conventions. And the whole point of Political Parties is that they narrow the differences. They take peoples passions and their emotions, and they turn them into programatic policy. You know, thats what theyve always done. And what you, now, have in the republican party is a party that has been captured by the the most extreme. And their purpose is to turn the party in a place that amplifies those grievances. So its literally the opposite of what Political Parties were meant to do. A famous historian said no america without democracy and no democracy without Political Parties. So the stakes are that high. We can all, you know, the republicans have gone crazy. But its bad for all of us. You need a twoparty system. You need there to be a healthy check and balance. And instead, what you have is one party, as you say, its essentially become a circus. So, the house is striking this deal to create a bipartisan commission investigating the January 6th attack. Kevin mccarthy, however, hasnt signed off, yet. If it actually goes through, do you think it will have any impact on forcing Insurrection Deniers to face The Truth . Or no chance . No chance. The point is, the facts about this are plain as day. Its not as though anyone we dont really need a commission. We watched the video. I mean, this is not some kind of case where you have to figure out, hey, what happened on January 6th . It was happening, on live television. But here we are, fareed. People are saying what theyre doing. They were saying who inspired them. They were saying why they were doing it. Like, what i mean, i am all for a commission but what is the commission going to do . I mean, all you have to do is watch the tv footage. Or listen to the people who were there. The officers. But here we are. We have officers, who are who are begging lawmakers and begging the public to, like, hey, look. This was awful. We were in Handtohand Combat Fighting for our lives. We saw it with our own eyes. Go on, sorry. No, thats exactly right. The problem you know this the problem is its not the facts. Its not a commission. Its that you have trump, who has some part of the base. Now, lets not exaggerate how much of it he has. This is the most important point Liz Cheney has made in the last few days. Kevin mccarthy suppressed polls that showed that, i think it was in the 40swing districts, trumps Disapproval Ratings are twice as high as his approval ratings. So, The Truth of the matter is, while he has this hugefan base, and this Fight Club that that is rooting for him. In the places, where the republican party needs to make inroads. You know, with suburban women and things like that. He is pretty unpopular. So the republican party may be trapped in a situation, where there is a floor for trump. You know . Hes got a there theres a whole bunch of people, who love him. But there is, also, a ceiling. And the gap between that floor and that ceiling is not that high. In other words, you cant get nominated without supporting trump. But in a swing district, you cant get elected by supporting trump. By supporting trump. That thats a pretty bad place to be. Yeah. And this this gets to the reason why you are doing this special. Watch this. Let me give you some snapshots of the republican electorate, today. We need to stop watching the media and start getting the factings. Reporter in a cnn poll, conducted after January 6th, 70 of republicans said they did not believe that Joe Biden won the election legitimately. Theres too much evidence of fraud. Fight for Trump Reporter over 40 believe Bill Gates is planning to use the covid19 vaccine, as a pretext to implant microchips in peoples brains, in order to track them. And roughly oneinfour republicans agree with the key tenet of the qanon conspiracy. That a group of satanworshipping elites, Who Run A childsex ring, are trying to control our media and politics. Joe biden is the biggest pedophile on the face of the planet. Not a conspiracy. Its fact. Reporter it becomes impossible to deny. The republican party, today, has been infected by a series of crazyConspiracy Theories. Why . Well, fareed, its frightening. How did these vastConspiracy Theories take hold of the gop, so quickly . Joe biden is the biggest pedophile . I mean, wow. Its its part of a 40 or 50year process, in which the republican party has always tolerated the extremes. Tolerated the most radical. You know, that was what the whole point of goldwater and the base was. And so, what you have done is you have created this idea that, when stuff doesnt happen that you want. The repeal of the new deal. The repeal of the great society. The repeal of segregation. Its because theres some group of conspirators, who are, you know, kind of, running the machines. And you create this paranoid, apocalyptic, conspiracy mentality. And whats happened in the republican party is its slowly, but surely, because it was encouraged, because it was tolerated, because it was milked for votes, has gone from the extreme, to the center of the party. Fareed, always a pleasure. I cant wait to see you. As much as possible, as this weekend. So thank you for joining. And make sure you all watch a radical rebellion, the transformation of the gop. Thats sunday, at 8 00 p. M. Right here on cnn. Then, of course, watch Fareed Zakaria gps earlier in the day. Fareed, thanks again. A Black Man with mentalhealth issues dies in custody. And now, the video is out showing Officers Pepper Spraying and tasing him, multiple times. We have that, next. As your business changes, the United States Postal Service is changing with it. With ecommerce that runs at the speed of now. Next Day And Twoday shipping nationwide, and returns right from the doorstep. Its a whole New World out there. Lets not keep it waiting. Cal our confident forever plan is possible with a cfp® professional. A cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. Visit letsmakeaplan. Org to find your cfp® professional. Are the Color Cartridges in your Printer Visit ready forplan. Org to fianother School Year . Ional. boy whats cyan mean . 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Sutherland, whose family says he was diagnosed with Mental Health issues at a young age, was in voluntary treatment at a mental Health Facility in North Charleston, south carolina. On the night of january 4th, authorities responding to an altercation that broke out at the facility arrested sutherland after he allegedly assaulted a staff member. His family says, they were never notified, and are speaking out for the first time since the video was released. We got no information from anybody. We never knew he was taken. Sutherland died in custody the next morning at the North Charleston Detention Center after he was moved from his cell to attend a Bond Hearing. The newly released Video Shows what occurred in the moments leading up to sutherlands death. It shows officers at his Cell Door for several minutes telling him to put his hands out to be cuffed. Warning if he doesnt comply, they will use force. Reporter an officer saying he was holding a spoon saying im warning you and officers can be seen spraying Pepper Spray into his cell a short time later. After severalmore failed attempts to coax him out, he is hit with more Pepper Spray. About a minute later, the doors open again. This time, Deputies Tase Sutherland and tell him to get on his stomach. He can be heard asking, whats the meaning of this . Deputies enter the cell telling him to relax, and not to resist. Deputies tased sutherland multiple times to get control of him in the cell. He could be seen and heard screaming on the ground. Two minutes later, sutherland is eventually cuffed and out of his cell. His Family Saw the video for the first time, just a week ago. Mental illness does not give anybody the right to put their hands on my child. Reporter Sutherlands Father says a mental Health Professional in the cell with his son would have changed the outcome. He was, already, afraid and confused about the situation. And there was nobody in there to talk to him, with any compassion, to try to reason with him. Reporter today, Charleston County Sheriff speaking out. I will not tolerate acts any acts of violence against our citizens or our residents in our facility. And and i will not any acts of destruction that that jeopardize the safety of that community. Reporter yeah, don. The two deputies who were involved in this case are on Desk Duty right now. But its very hard to watch this video, don. If you think about it, this goes on for more than nine minutes. At no point, it seems like, anyone tries to stop or deescalate this. It continues, for such a long time. At some point, youre wondering, when its going to end and, of course, it ends tragically. Talking to the family today, you could only imagine the pain they are experiencing. Having to watch their loved one not get help, and to die this way. The sheriff says the investigation will continue, and she will give the report because she said she is going to be transparent. But theres still a lot of questions involved in this case. Ryan, right you are and i appreciate it. We have a conversation about this earlier today and youre right. It its Heart Wrenching to watch this video. And one can we cant even fathom what that family is dealing with. Ryan young reporting from North Charleston, south carolina. Appreciate that. Next up, Jamal Sutherlands mother live right here. Dont flex your pecs. Terminix. [ Crowd Cheering ] [ Engine Revving ] [ Race Light Countdown ] when you save money with allstate you feel like youre winning. Safe drivers save 40 saving is easy when youre in good hands. Allstate. Click or call for a quote today. Will there be an ev for me . Saving is easy when youre in good hands. What about me . One for me . You mean us . What about me . And me . How about us . Yeah, how about us . Great question. 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There was a fight, but he was not involved in the fight. And i want everybody to know he was not involved. But he was carried off to jail. Nobody at the hospital ever called me, and im his guardian. I should have been notified what was going on with jamal at every time. So he was taken out. He was put into the jail where, to my view, he wasnt treated fairly from the moment he got there. Mmhmm. They were teasing him. They were calling him names. And they upset him more than he was. Let me tell you this, ms. Sutherland. We feel that. We feel your frustration, and we got you. So dont worry about that. But this video is so difficult to watch. It shows your son being assaulted for several minutes, and he didnt put up a fight. You saw it for the first time this week after giving the Sheriff Permission to release it publicly. How does this compare to what you were originally told about your Sons Death . Well, originally we werent told anything. We knew nothing for months of what happened to him. All we knew is that the newspaper said that jamal was found in a cell. He was not found in a cell. He was murdered by the officers at the Detention Center. And after jamal is murdered, you continually hear people saying things that are not true about him. Jamal was a man of god, and thats why when theyre tasing him, when theyre throwing Pepper Spray, jamal begins to praise god. Hallelujah. Thats Who Jamal was. Jamal never assaulted anyone. He never lifted his hands. He followed instructions. Come out, and things will be better. Well, let me just say this, ms. Sutherland, we want you to come back and tell your story. And, mark and gary, we want you to come back as well. We wanted to get this on the record. We wanted people to hear from you, and were going to continue to follow up on this story. And i thank you so much for being here. Were so sorry for your loss. Mark and gary, well hear from you when we have you guys back. 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