Lets hand it over to chris. Have a good weekend. I am Chris Cuomo and welcome to prime time. So will the great unmasking announced by the cdc get more people to vaccinate . Were going to have to see, especially now as dr. Fauci made in both directions. At least 18 states have lifted or will be lifting pandemic mandates after the cdcs shift. Among them, minnesota. But minnesotas twin cities, minneapolis and st. Paul have not lifted their restrictions so theyre going to remain. Remember, you have state, but you also have local. There will be some fights. Remember, why would there be any disconnect . Well, its about confidence, but also competence. Theres no federal mechanism to check vax status. Many states dont have their own mechanism. So enforcement is an unknown for states, localities, businesses, and we see that reflected in the uneven responses. Many big chain retailers, target, home depot, starbucks, leaving policies unchanged. But huge changes at the largest retailer in the country, walmart, no longer requiring vaccinated shoppers and workers to wear masks except in municipalities that require them. Same as costco, trader joes, not requiring their customers to wear masks anymore. The unvaccinated are still being encouraged to. But proof wont be required. See, its easy to see who is wearing a mask, right . Because either you got it or you dont. But if you dont have one on, how would you ever know that the person is vaccinated . I guess they could tell you. Would you believe them . So will all the unvaccinated just ditch their masks now . No one will be able to tell the difference. Now, where i live, i saw a lot fewer masks. Even in stores where a mask is still required. All those folks vaccinated, seemed like well over the half of the percentage that is supposedly fully vaccinated in New York where i live. Did the cdc just make it more or less likely that people will get immunized . Free beer, doughnuts. Maybe its not enough to lure americans to get a shot if they dont need it. But what about A Million big ones . Thats what Ohios Governor is banking on, a lottery that his state is about to hold to speed up the pace of vaccinations. Lets bring him in on a friday night. Republican governor Mike Dewine joins us. Good to see you, gov. Good to be back, chris. Good to see you. So lets talk about the mode here. Instead of jumping into the negative, lets start with the positive. Why are you doing this . Why do you like it . Chris, the game now is all about vaccination. We have 42 of the people in the state who are vaccinated. Weve got 37 who are fully vaccinated. Were doing pretty well, but we really have to do more. Weve got to continue to do this. Every time we get someone vaccinated we move them over here and they cant spread it. They cant get it. Theyre safe. And what really we have now is two countries. We have the people who are vaccinated and the people who are not vaccinated. And the people who are not vaccinated, as you know, we have a variant. And it is more contagious than what weve seen in the past. So weve got to move as many people over to get them vaccinated as we can. We have traveled around, been to 40 different Vaccination Sites and we just talk to people and try to figure out why are you getting vaccinated, maybe why did you hold back . And heres the conclusion. 42 of ohioans are vaccinated. They wanted it. Youve got other people over here who clearly are not ever going to get vaccinated and thats fine. We have to respect that and we do respect that. But youve got the persuadables. Youve got people who for any number of reasons just havent got around to it, wasnt a huge priority, but, you know, they will do it. I mean weve talked to people who we talked to a guy the other day in cincinnati, and i said, hey, how come you came in . He said my son brought me in. Called me up and said come on, dad, time to go do it. I came. Were allowing walkins now, as you know, chris. Its getting those people at the margin in. And i think that people are motivated by the some people at least by the opportunity to win A Million dollars. Its better odds than most lotteries are and weve already started to see we cant really measure it yet but anecdotally today, we were getting reports from Health Departments and they said, yeah, people are coming in here and talking about it. They say thats why i came in. I dont really care about whether or not this is legal. I know the State A. G. Has been looking at it and whos supposed to run a lottery and what its supposed to be about. I dont really think thats the issue so im not going to waste time on that. Theres no question that money matters. We saw in some polling from ucla, if i gave you 25 are you more likely . Yes. 50 more likely . 100, even more likely . Yes. Now, heres the pushback, its on two levels. Gov, i got it, wheres my million bucks, wheres my chance . Where are you punishing me by rewarding people too stupid to get the vaccine. Everybody gets to play. If you got the vaccine the first day, youre in. So everybody is in, its not just the people who havent gotten it yet. No. Everybody whos got the vaccine up until the time that we do the drawing basically, the first drawing, were doing five, so were doing one in 12 days and then every week, five separate weeks. So youve got more chances. But everybody up to that point thats been vaccinated, could have been a month ago, two months ago, yesterday, they have a chance. Key fact. Key fact. That is very good. Now heres the second pushback. This is federal money and its from the c. A. R. E. S. Act, Coronavirus Relief dollars. You could have used it on something better than a lottery. You could have used it to help open more schools because youve seen youve done well with reopening schools and seen what a big difference that makes for families. Why not just put the money in there and go from 80 to 100 and that will help more than a lottery . Chris, theres nothing thats going to determine ohios future more than how well we do in getting vaccinated and how well we control this virus. Were worried about winter. Thats going to really control not only saving lives but the economy. And, yes, we could have spent it for more advertising on tv. Weve done a lot of advertising on tv. Weve done a lot of different things. This we have not done and we were getting a real slowdown in the number of people getting vaccinated. It went down dramatically two or three weeks ago. And we want to kick it up. And i think this is going to do it. This debate that is raging about why people are having a hard time getting employees, ive been doing a lot of research on it. It depends on region, it depends on industry. There is a narrative that, look, heres why. Its because theyre doing better than if they were working. You agree with that, and you want to pull some of the aid, 594,000 ohioans will lose money when the aid ends june 26th. The added Unemployment Benefit reduced hunger in the country by 35 , mostly for minorities. Ohio still has hungry people. 1. 5 million. Is this the right move . Yeah, i think it is, chris. Let me go back. The original extra dollars were 600, very well needed. Very, very much needed. The federal government then came down to 300, very needed. But were well, well into this. Were coming out of this pandemic. Heres what were seeing in ohio. Our unemployment is down to where it was at the time that the pandemic started. Were starting to move forward. But across the state of ohio, weve got businesses that are only partially open, cant do the things that they have done in the past. We were i was at a Restaurant Nobody can get workers. Im hearing it New York city, out on the island where i live. Every employer, everybody i meet, man or woman, brown, white, whatever their color, whatever their creed, if they own a business, they say i cant get anybody to work. I hear you, im with you. Its not the only reason. Its not the only reason. So are you doing any it is a reason, though, i think, chris. Lets say it is. Stipulated. Lets say it is a reason for some. But what about not being able to get Child Care . What about fears about the Workplace Safety . Are you doing any kind of thoughtful appraisal of who gets the funding pulled and who doesnt . Well, as far as Workplace Safety, the main fear, of course, as you know, was getting the virus. Right. We now have the vaccine. If people want to go back to work, feel they should go back to work, they can get the vaccine. We pushed this out long enough so they could actually start the vaccine as soon as we announced it and they would be able to be well on their way to getting the immunity really that they need. Look, Child Care is something we always have to continue to look at. Weve worked on it in ohio. We put dollars in it. We kept it going. It does not mean its perfect. But at some point, chris, we have to get back to normal. And what happens when we still have regular unemployment in ohio, we just in 40 some days were just going to say, okay, federal government, were not going to take that additional 300 a month or 300 a week that is coming in. Its getting us back to normal. This is what everybody wants. This is what were trying to do. Your Unemployment Rate is 4. 7 . The national average is 6 . You say getting back to normal. Bernie sanders put out a tweet about the issue where he said normal for you is workers being underpaid and that the money theyre making with federal money is right around the Poverty Line and for you thats too much. He said the problem in america is not that unemployed workers are receiving an extra 300 a week in emergency benefits during a horrific pandemic, the problem is that too many employers in america are exploiting their workers by paying Starvation Wages with no benefits. What do you think of that . Well, hes got his opinion, thats fine. But heres what we have to do and heres what we have been doing. And heres what were going to continue to do. I think government has the obligation to do absolutely everything we can to let every american live up to their godgiven potential. That is putting a great focus on education. But Thats Education written very large. It doesnt just mean k through 12, preschool or just college. It means taking workers and allowing them to get industry credentials, taking a step up, get higher pay and take their Skill Sets up. Thats how were going to grow the economy. We have a program in ohio that we started after i became governor. Its worked exceedingly well. We basically are putting money into it to upscale this the workers talents. But look, chris, its an ongoing focus. Were not perfect. No state is perfect. But we think we know the most important thing and that is make sure the workers have the best Skill Sets that they can have so they can get the best jobs that they can. Governor Mike Dewine, complicated times require solutions and discussion. I appreciate you for participating here. I look forward to seeing you again soon. Thanks, chris. Be well. Pipeline attack. Its a metaphor. Its a metaphor. Why . On the microlevel, shaking up Gas Prices Led to shortages. But on the macro level, the bigger level, the big picture, were vulnerable. Our infrastructure especially. So what is the biden administration doing to beef up cybersecurity . Were they caught sleeping on this . We have the secretary of transportation, Pete Buttigieg, next. Life can be a lot to handle. This magic moment, but theres plenty of magic in all that chaos. 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Well, so to be clear, some of the things that are in the bill include making sure that the grants come in with serious plans for cybersecurity because thats what it means to be resilient in the 21st century. Lets also recognize that the federal government cannot be alone in promoting cybersecurity. Take this situation where you had a private Company Experience a cyberattack with public consequences. So many of our utilities and other pieces of infrastructure, theyre either owned and operated by local governments or often by private actors. And so we need a whole of society approach, not just a whole of government approach, to make sure were safe and secure. Secretary, were we caught sleeping on this . In 2020 alone 24,000 u. S. Ransomware attacks, state, local governments targeted, Health Care facilities, schools. Victims paid 350 Million in ransom. Thats up 300 from the year before. Are we sleeping . Look, we as a country, i think, have had a big Wakeup Call. Dont get me wrong, weve been working on this from day one. The Executive Order the president put out this week is a result of work thats been ongoing. Ive been hearing from the White House and others in the administration about our mutual Cybersecurity Work from the getgo. But look, lets face it, clearly our country needs to be more secure than we have been, especially because the threats are only going to get more and more sophisticated. On the Wakeup Call side, the biden Budget Proposal for next year, cybersecurity and infrastructure, security agency, got a 5 bump as compared to an overall 16 bump in nondefense spending. In light of this now, should that change . Well, ill leave that to other parts of the government. What ill say is its not just about the dollars that go into an agency that stood up specifically around cybersecurity, its also got to be part of the work all of us are doing. You might not see it in our department of transportation budget, but when were thinking about funding a plan that comes in from a community that wants to, lets say, put in a new Light Rail Line or add some kind of resource in their ports, you better believe were going to want to make sure that its resilient, safe and secure. So its up to us and every other department from education to agriculture as well as cissa as well as Dod And Homeland security to make sure were doing our part. Is it a fair argument, secretary, that the government should be more involved here . I know privatization very sexy, very appealing because it seems efficient and well leave it to the people who know. But whether its texas that operates its own grid and now you have colonial which is a private industry, they dont have the same touch on regulation that other aspects of governmentowned industry do. Is that what were paying the price for here is they werent Up To Speed on cyber hacking because they dont need to be . Well, the problem is, of course, they do need to be so we need to make sure theres levels of reporting. They didnt even tell you guys right away, right . If you really regulated them, if you controlled them, im not faulting you because its the system. Im saying should the System Change . Should there be more oversight . And not by congress. Should there be more oversight by an agency that knows what its doing where youve got to tell us and youve got to know and meet requirements and spend money, otherwise you dont get the concession . I think that kind of oversight is part of what it means to have critical infrastructure in private hands. Look, were not going to want the federal government to own and operate every utility or every pipeline or every other piece of critical infrastructure in the country. Often it does make sense for that to be in decentralized, local or even private hands. But when it is, an enormous responsibility comes with that stewardship and i think we need to take a real look at a Policy Level at whats being done. So today theres a headline that the president says hes open on infrastructure. He wants to negotiate. Hes been having meetings. What gives you any hope, mr. Secretary, that mitch mcconnells quote from nine days ago of 100 of my focus is on stopping this new administration will change . Do you think theres any chance of republican votes actually being cast for a democratic anything . I do think theres a chance to do this because i dont think that this is a uniquely democratic set of goals or vision. Look, the american people want infrastructure. The american people want investments in the competitiveness of the future. Thats one of the reasons why the Jobs Plan is so popular across the country and not only with democrats. Just yesterday i was in the Oval Office with the president , the Commerce Secretary and the vp and a bunch of republican senators having a good Faith Conversation about where we were, where they were, and where to go from here. Theres remarkable strong and good Committee Work going on. Building a good policy. So is it a guarantee . Far from it. Obviously were starting out pretty far apart but i do think theres a good opportunity for a lot of common Ground And Alignment because the american people cant wait. Covid relief was a need also. They passed it twice under trump. Then for all the good faith meetings, zero republican votes for anything with Bidens Name on it. Why might this be different . Id say in my view the Back And Forth has already been a lot more dynamic. They came to the table with a proposal. The president has put forward his ideas. That Back And Forth is, ill tell you, its very real and very focused. Same thing with whats going on in the committees both on the House And Senate side. This regular Order Legislative Process has the potential to deliver really good policy for the future. Weve got to give it every shot. I get politics are what they are. I dont know exactly where this will lead us. But what i know is this is both good policy and good politics, at least thats how we view it. Were hoping a good number of republicans come to view it the came way if we can scope out at least where the Common Ground might lie. Mr. Secretary Pete Buttigieg thank you for joining us on prime time. Thank you. Will they work for solutions or are they going to keep playing the game . Youve got to keep watching. The indicted former pal of Matt Gaetz formally struck a Plea Deal today. Today the deal was filed. So now the feds have a deal with the pal. Hes going to have to plead guilty to several charges, but what will they get, and will it hurt Matt Gaetz . A top criminal defense attorney, next. 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Joel greenberg has agreed to plead guilty to six federal charges, including a count of Sex Trafficking of a child. Its just a fraction of the 33 federal counts he originally faced. But The Big One was the Sex Trafficking of a minor and they werent going to let that go. How much time does he get . Well see. That will be a coefficient of how much help he gave them against other people they value as much or more on charges that are as serious or more serious. Thats how you get a deal. Greenberg had numerous Sugar Daddy relationships, druglaced meetings with young women, including a minor. Gaetz is not implicated by name in these papers, but greenberg admits that he and others paid a 17yearold girl for sex and that he introduced her to, quote, other Adult Men who engaged in commercial sex acts with her. Top legal mind and a man who knows the Florida Dynamic that is at play here, counselor mark omara. Lets be very clear, mark aint a part of the dynamic, he just knows about the dynamic. So they made a Plea Deal. And that means that he offered substantial assistance, am i right, in the common reckoning that that means that he helped them go after people they think are as valuable as he or more on charges that are as serious or more . Absolutely. They do that by way of a proffer, which is basically a confession. You go into the u. S. Attorneys office with your lawyers. They have their case agents. You sit down and basically tell them everything you know. If you dont tell them everything you know or if you lie to them, the deal is off, you dont get what you go there for which is to try to minimize your damage. So we know greenberg has spoken to them on several occasions. We know because of the type of deal hes getting, not phenomenal, hes still going to federal prison, it seems, but he has got to be focusing on other people. Weve always talked about Congressman Gaetz being one of them, but certainly hes going to be giving what we call truly substantial information that will lead to other indictments and convictions. Unless he can tie congressman Matt Gaetz to sex with an underaged person who was also trafficked for that purpose, how bad could the trouble be for gaetz . If they dont, lets just say they get away from that. Then what else is out there . There may be some paying for sex. There may be adult sex. There may be some of these other things. We dont know exactly What Greenberg has talked about. Certainly the Premiere Case is the Sex Trafficking or the sex with a minor. But we also know that greenberg has been involved in an enormous amount of information from cryptocurrency to fraud to stalking. Not suggesting anyone else like the congressman is involved in that, but we have to know that since they have been so tight for so long that probably the reason why greenberg is getting his deal is because he does in fact have very good information about people at the level of Congressman Gaetz or others. How real or how literal is that understanding that they have to have charges that are equal or worse against other people . I Cant Think of anything worse in the mix than sex with a minor and trafficking them. I agree, which is why i would think that he has to have some type of evidence of at least that level with somebody who might be perceived to be above him. The other information is we look at this with the context of Drug Trafficking cases. You always have to have if youre going to get a deal in Drug Trafficking world, youre giving up your source. Youre giving up the person who is selling more than you so its that context you have to look at this case in. Whatever greenberg is giving them, its got to be so significant that theyre even willing to talk to somebody who they otherwise have for a virtual life sentence. Hes reduced his exposure a great deal already with the plea and it will come down even more based solely upon his substantial assistance. Now, you are aware of the politics and the legal and prosecutorial communities down there. Gaetz spokesperson says the first indictment says he falsely accused another man of sex with a minor for his own gain. That man was innocent. Do you think gaetz has trouble or not . I think he has some trouble. I know the Lead Prosecutor on this and he does his work, does it well and doesnt leave very much to chance. Remember, federal prosecutors have about a 97 Conviction Rate with whatever they do. And by that i mean they are not going to rely alone on What Greenberg says. Thats the bare bones. They have to put meat on that bone. Thats going to be corroborating witnesses, other forensic evidence, other bank evidence, whatever. They are not going to walk in there and say to any Jury Listen and believe greenberg alone. It is going to have to be filled up with everything else to convince 12 people beyond a reasonable doubt of whoever they want to convict after greenberg. Theres that old adage when it comes to those finds of things, find the woman. Now, we know its going to be the women here who could have the biggest impact. It could be easy to find them. Its about whether they will talk cooperate. Mark omara, thank you very much. Counselor, be well. Thank you, chris. Be well. What do we do about our kids now in this new Cdc Situation . Theyre not fully vaccinated, right . You just got the new authorization so youve got kids 12 to 18, they can get it. So what do we do with them . Fauci says nothing has changed for unvaccinated kids who are not eligible to get the shot. They have got to mask up in the classroom this fall. What is that going to mean for parents . Insight from two doctors, next. This is our block. Our place. Our people. Our block, its just like yours. Full of the people who shaped you. They all deserve Care And Access to the vaccine. No matter their address, income, or skin color. Not having a ride to get the vaccine. Cant be the reason you dont get it. You wanna help . Donate a ride today. Keeping your Oysters Business growing has you swamped. You need to hire. I need indeed indeed you do. The moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a Resume Data Base claim your seventyfivedollar credit when you post your first job at indeed. Com promo so the cdc is trying to make things less confusing with the mask guidelines but theres at least one Group Scrambling for answers, and thats us, parents. Parents of kids younger than 12. They cant get the vaccine. Should we even prioritize them . One Harvard Pediatrician argues no. Quote, many poorer countries have yet to receive a single vaccine shipment. In this context, its difficult to justify using limited Vaccine Supplies to immunize young, healthy kids at little risk of severe disease of covid. Whether vaccines will prevent severe disease from variants is still unknown. The best way to fight the pandemic is with a global campaign to vaccinate those most at risk of exposure to serious disease. Dr. Richard malley wrote that oped. A pediatrician. He joins us with dr. Liena wen. Do we have a quorum here that all three of us believe kids should be able to go Back To School in the fall without masks . Yes . Ideally without masks, yes. Raise a hand, give me something. This isnt a court, im not prosecuting. So, look, thats my concern. Lets just short circuit this. Ill start with you, dr. Liena wen. Ideally is not good enough. People see that the vaccinated are getting their masks off. Everybody is going to take their masks off now. There are going to be cases. There are going to be variants. If we dont hear about people being hospitalized and dying and things stay the same with kids, you almost never hear about a bad case. Parents will not accept going Back To School and the kids, especially little ones, have to deal with masks or anything unusual. Well, right now im worried about a different issue. I think maybe by the fall, maybe if caseloads are low enough, maybe well worry about your issue. Im actually really worried that were increasing the risk for our children because essentially what the cdc has done is to lift all Mask Mandates and social distancing mandates regardless of whether youre vaccinated. They say only vaccinated people should be taking off their masks but we know thats not how people are going to be. I think whats the End Result is that vaccinated people are going to be fine. But unvaccinated people are now going to be exposed to all kinds of other unvaccinated people who are now going around maskless with no restrictions. I think its going to be harder for us to reach Herd Immunity because that incentive to get vaccinated is now gone. If every restriction is gone anyway, whats in it for you . So i think its actually going to be harder for us to get to the point that you want to get to, chris, which is a low enough level of transmission in the fall that our children can actually take off their masks and thats because the Cdc Guidance was too abrupt and skipped a lot of steps that were really unnecessary. Whats your take, dr. Malley . Well, i think the cdc is facing a very difficult situation. This has been a horrific year and we have to give people some hope, some idea things are getting better. At the same time, we are also trying to encourage people who are somewhat reluctant or hesitant to be vaccinated that there is in fact a reason, a tangible reason to be vaccinated. I think that is essentially the calculus that theyre doing. Lets give something to show to the population that has had such a horrible year with deaths and horrible tragedies, lets give them something tangible. Lets encourage people to get vaccinated and hope that what dr. Wen is worried about, which is that people will essentially try to trick the system will not happen to the extent that youre worried about. And i think its a gamble that the cdc is taking. My take on it would be that this type of approach is much more likely to be successful as we start seeing the number of cases really plummet with more vaccinations. Then i think the concerns that as pediatricians we have about kids being exposed and potentially transmitting to others really get reduced. Now, on the vaccines, and im going to bounce back to dr. Wen about your point. Youre saying, look, the kids dont need a vaccine. Give it to the adults and other highrisk people in other countries and that will do more for the global pandemic than doing it for the kids. How confident are you of that . Well, what i would really want the message to be and what Adam Fin and i tried to convey is that at this moment the priority should not be to vaccinate 2yearolds. At this moment, chris. Soon, when we have the virus under better control in all sorts of parts of the world, then of course you can start focusing on children. But the idea that we are going to give vaccines that are in such short supply to kids whose risk of severe covid is so small while the rest of the world is imploding and you have images of crematoriums in India And Lack of oxygen in brazil and other places, i think that really rays a humanitarian question. The other point i would quickly make is that if youre really interested in protecting children, which we all are and as a pediatrician its what ive dedicated my life to, the best way to protect children is to protect them against Collateral Damage of covid. All the psychological, physical and financial complications that covid has led to in their lives. One of the worst things that could happen is to allow some of these variants that you mentioned to come back into our country and some of those variants might in fact over time become resistant to the effective vaccine. And so controlling the virus in other countries, in the elderly, in the immunocompromised, even, i would say, in the children who have risks in our country, that would be the best strategy to try to get back to normal. Dr. Wen. I think that this is completing two different things. I definitely agree that global Vaccine Access is really important for humanitarian reasons but youre not going to get there by distributing the doses that were reserved for children in the u. S. Even if youre talking about every dose for every child under the age of 18 in the u. S. , you give it abroad, youll be vaccinating less than 1 of the worlds population. If we really want to solve the problem of global vaccine equity, we would be building global infrastructure and helping with the manufacturing capacities, lifting export restrictions. There are actual policy things we could be doing if thats the problem that were trying to solve for. Theres a different problem here too which is we still have a pandemic here. We have children who have been out of school for a lot of this year in person. We have parents who are not at work. And the best way for our economy to get started to help us here in the u. S. Is to get our children vaccinated. The solution that dr. Malley is proposing to me almost sounds like were saying we have global poverty as an issue so were all going to fast in the u. S. For a month. Thats not the solution to this global problem and were not solving for the problem right here in the u. S. I understand you about the problem in the u. S. But its not a good analogy for malley because poverty somewhere else doesnt make you hungry here but i understand your help. Good points on both sides. You know what weve got to do, have more of these conversations. Dr. Malley, thank you. Dr. Wen, appreciate it as always. Just to be clear, i wanted to celebrate with everybody else, okay . I dont like the way the cdc handled it. I dont like that they were playing cute on the show about it. I think it plays to politics, it plays to the game. I was worried about this and i am worried. Im going to let you know. 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He would, later, drive off with the tiger. This Offduty Cop, who was there, said he told him to stop. And the Guy Evaded and then, another cop showed up and he still evaded. Cuevas argues, no, i didnt. I didnt know the guy was a cop, and nobody told me to stop. He is in Police Custody tonight, though. Why . Because he was out on bond, from an unrelatedmurder charge, stemming from 2017. And the judge just revoked the bond. Its complicated. Simple question. Where is the cat . Michael elliot, cuevass attorney, joins me now. Counselor, thank you. You are very welcome. Calling you from cat central here in fort bend county. Nice to see you. Where is the cat at . Well, were all looking for the cat. I think the cat is hiding in a tree, like you said. Im not sure but we are all looking for him very diligently. Why doesnt cuevas know where the cat is . Well, because he took it to the owner and the owners now run and hid because the whole world is looking for him, thats why. Does cuevas know how to help find the guy . I think he could help, yes. And cuevas has been trying, very dili diligently trying. And right now, we have gotten threats and all kind of other things to back off and close our mouth. I think we are ruffling some feathers. Im not sure. You say cuevas didnt run. The Offduty Cop says he did run. The cop shows up while he is driving away and supposedly, according to the Offduty Cop drove over the Neighbors Lawn trying to be evasive. Why do you believe he wasnt running away with the cat . Well, this is the same cop now that testified today and admitted that he tampered with evidence. And the testimony also was that he was drinking, at the time. So take it with a grain of salt, what he says. The other testimony was not one single officer told him he could leave. Why did he leave . He was scared. He took the cat. Tried to save the cats life. Wait, hold on. Why why did he think he was saving the cats life, by driving away with the cat . Is the cat wanted for something . Well, no, but the drunk, Offduty Cop had a gun out there and he thought he was going to shoot him. Thats why. And the mob was coming around thinking this cat was going to do something bad to somebody. But he knew that the cats illegal, right . Well, its a classy ordinance. Its like playing your music too loud. Okay . Holding a Bengal Tiger as a private pet is playing your music too loud . Come on, counselor. Well, its the same offense. Its a Class C Ordinance violation. I am not saying its a great idea but it is the status of texas law. You see it as the same type of egregious act as me letting a Bengal Tiger loose in your yard . Theyre both Class C Ordinance violations, so legally, theyre the same. Then, why, if its such a nothing burger, why didnt he just take the cat, control it, and stay put . And if the cops want to take it in because its not licensed or whatever it is, you do what the law says . Well, i mean, i didnt say he made a greatthought process, in what he was doing there. But there was a mob out there. And im not faulting people for being concerned about it but the cop was out there waving guns around. He was drinking. He was he was screaming and hollering. People get nervous when theres a tiger on the street, mike, right . Yeah, absolutely, i am not faulting people for being nervous about it but thats sort of the scenario that happened out there. And victor loves this cat and to be honest with you, he wanted to save the cat and get him out of there. He didnt know he was going to turn it over to somebody who is going to run and hide with him. Counselor michael elliot, i appreciate you. Be safe. Well be right back. All right. Byebye. Its coming back to you now. Real pants. Find amex offers to save on the brands you love. One of the many things you can expect when youre with amex. 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