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A very good morning to viewers here in the United States and around the world. It is thursday, may 6th. Liz cheney is not going down without a fight. The number three republican In The House delivering a stark warning about her Partys Future while shes about to lose her Leadership Position for speaking the truth about the 2020 election. She cautions that the gop is at a Turning Point and that repeating lies about the election could provoke more violence. Were going read you some big sections of what she writes here. Quote, the question before us now is whether we will join trumps crusade to delegitimize with allconsequences. I have worked where leadership leads to violence. America is exceptional because our constitutional system guards against that. At the heart of our republican is a commitment to peaceful transfer of power among political rivals in accordance of law. President Ronald Reagan described this as our miracle. She goes on to white while ignoring statements might seem attractive to some, that approach will do profound longterm damage to our party and our country. Trump has never expressed Remorse Or Regret for the attack of January 6th that now suggests our legal and constitutional system cannot be trusted by the american people. This is especially dangerous in its claims. First support the ongoing department criminal investigations of the January 6th attack. They must be comprehensive and objective. Neither White House or any member of congress should interfere. Second, she says, we must support a parallel bipartisan position with S P Pow their will seek and find the facts. It will design for americans what happened. Finally we republicans need to stand for genuinely sfriv principles and stay awa from the trump personality. In our hearts were demoted to the american miracle. She says we believe in criminal law, strong national Defense And Prosperity brought by low taxes and fiscal conservative policies. She writes theres much at stake including political wokeness of our political rivals, the erratic policies at the borders reagan formed a broad coalition across the broad political spectrum and we knead to do the same now. We know how. This will not happen if republicans choose to abandon the law and reverse the legal outcome of the last election. History is watching, writes cheney. Our children are watching she says im committed to doing that no matter what the shortterm political consequences might be. Lets bring in former reagan White House official linda chavez. You know, it seems and thank you so much for being with us this morning. Thank you. It is seeming right now that cheney is going to be out of leadership, that she will be purged. Whether she holds onto her congressional seat is still to be determined. How you do see her future in the gop in. Well, its very hard to tell what her future in the gop is going to be. You have President Trump dynamiting the very foundation of the american democracy. You cannot have a democracy unless you have people who vote and accept the results of the election. Hes taken a big stick of dynamite and blown that up and i think the rubble is going to end up falling on the Republican Party. It may be the Death Knell of the Republican Party. It may not be next year. This is the party i joined in the 1980s because of Ronald Reagan. It seems many house republicans you know some of them dont believe the big lie, theyre committed to it for their political ambitions. But how can they reject former prch when to do so is, as cheney shows us, political suicicsuici . I think there was a moment after the January 6th insurrection when republicans could have banded together, could have rejected President Trump, could have basically sent him off to maralago never to be heard from again in any meaningful way. They chose not to do so. Its very hard to understand why. Yes, President Trump was popular with the republican base, but i think that would have waned, particularly with his being in Facebook Jail and not being able to communicate through facebook, twitter, or some of the Social Media hes used in the past. But they chose not to do that. Instead they went through the cult of personality, theyve wrapped their future in duch, and i think thats very perilness for the party. Is conservatism dead, do you think . Donald trump never represented conservatives. He was a populist. He was about Donald Trump. Whatever policy he thought could improve his standings in the polls, thats what he took. Conservatism has been, as Liz Cheney suggested,certain principles, smaller government, lower taxes, fiscal responsibility, and a devotion to the Rule Of Law. First and foremost in that Rule Of Law is accept about the results of elections. And so long as the party continues this viction, that the last election was stolen, they do not have a longtime future. Ite goes tot continue to reject what Donald Trump continues to say. Hes just a sore loser, and they need to start calling him that. For people like Liz Cheney, for people like you, people like Mitt Romney who are more traditional conservatives, its like watching folks who are in the wilderness. Where do you go . I ended up reregistering as an independent. I continue to hope to vote for republican candidates particularly at the local or state level. Larry hogan has been great in maryland. I support republicans like that. There are plenty of good republicans out there, but they need not wrap themselves in the lie of Donald Trump, and thats what they need to get home. They need to understand that there are some of us who cannot abide the big lie. Linda chavez, thank you so much for speaking with us this morning. We appreciate it. Thank you. So more major political news overnight. Republicans have been demanding what they call bipartisan shelterinplace when it comes to the infrastructure bill, and they criticize the administration for not being bipartisan enough. I think theres a deal to be had. If the White House is going to work with us, this is a deal we can do. They say they want bipartisanship. How bipartisan does this sound . 100 is on stopping this new administration. That was Mitch Mcconnell yesterday, 2021, which sounds an awful lot like Mitch Mcconnell, 2010. Our Top Priority should be to deny president obama a second turn. First of all, mcconnells aged well. He looks pretty good. But when we hear republicans say we want bipartisanship, we want bipartisanship, but the leader says, i want to stop Everything Biden is doing, it sounds like theyre undercutting. Oh, exactly. For the first 100 days in the biden administration, republicans in public and private said this is not how the president campaigned. He campaigned to reach across the aisle, someone who was going to cut these bipartisan deals like back in the day, and now theyre claiming they werent here to cut those bipartisan deals. Theyre trying to push as much of their agenda as possible before they get into the midterm elections and risk losing congress. Why are democrats not saying that, yet is Joe Biden. Listen to how he responded. It seems as though the Republican Party is trying to identify what it stands for, and theyre in the midst of a significant revolution going on in the Republican Party. I think the republicans are further away from trying to figure out who they are and what they stand for than i thouGht They would be at this point. So its interesting. That wasnt the bite i was talking about. He said, you know what . Mcconnell said that back in the Obama Administration and i, Joe Biden, was still able to get things done with him. He campaigning this way too. Others said, i dont want to. Others said, i want to still tree. He still seems to be saying hes going to try. Hes talking to mcconnell, hes talking to a lot of republicans, sometimes in calls that arent reported widely, and hes trying to cut a deal. But theyre arguing theyre not going to wait indefinitely and if gooden doesnt come to the table, theyre going to come forward. We know from talking to folks in the White House, bidens views on the republican parties have evolved. He did campaign that he would cut these deals, not thinking the senate was the place that was home for him for half a century where he was going out to come Tail Parties and wheeling and dealing. He recognizied some of this was gone. But what he realized is the attack on the capitol, he began to think perhaps he would pnt have a Dance Partner on the other side in the same way, but he knows its politically detrimental to come out and say, oh, ive given up on any bipartisan declaration. Theyre sending out messaging theyre trying to work with republicans. Theyre telling republicans and democrats, were not going to wait forever, and i dont think the american public should expect him to wait forever. A guy like Joe Manchin whos been dancing around, there doesnt mcconnells statements put praessure on Joe Manchin . Whats Manchin Waiting For . It gives cover to manchin if he wants to vote with democrats. It was an extremely detrimental statement in one way. But if the goal is to unify his base and to remind republicans that while theyre spending all this time of fighting with themselves over Liz Cheney, they have this common enemy who is Joe Biden, then perhaps it is politically somewhat of a helpful statement. I think its interesting that that response came when he was asked about the situation In The House and what republicans were going to do with Liz Cheney. Clearly he talked about how he was going to hand it. Caitlyn jenner did her first tv interview. She is running. Lets listen to what she said. Hes been horrible for business. Obviously companies are leashing right and left. My friends are leaving california. The guy across me said im moving to arizona. I cant take it anymore. I dont want to leave. Okay . Either i stay and fight or i get out of here. Shes talking about current California Governor Gavin newsom there. I guess more interesting than the fact of this interview with Caitlyn Jenner going on hannity with a way of dealing with the recall. Where this interview was done is really, really important. I dont think were reviewing any massive political secrets that california is a pretty blue state. In fact, a republican hasnt won there in 15 years or so. Part of it is there are real concerns about Newsomes Leadership during the pandemic, the schools, the french laundry dinner. The fact that Caitlyn Jenner is sucking up so much of the oxygen, first of all, pushes off some of Newsomes Air time and shes making a debut on Fox News helps bolster his argument that this is a right wing effort. I think if youre Gavin Newsom youre happy to see that and see where she is sort of coming out publicly in this campaign. Lisa lerer, great to see you in person. Its blast. Thanks for Coming Up in. Were going to speak live with a scientist behind the vaccines. Do you need a third dose . Plus what stadiums and arenas are demanding a vaccine if you want to attend games. And how a Grandmothers Gossip leads to the arrest of a new capitol insurrection suspect. This is new day. Ill be right back. With moderate to severe crohns diseas i was there, just not always where needed to be. Is she alright . I hope so. So i talked to my doctor about humira. I learned humira is for people who still have e after trying other medications. 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The dodgers, the yankees, the Mets T padres, and the giants are all having special little section where theyll have nonsocial distancing for those who are vaccinated. Basically if you and i want to go out to a Ball Game and sit with vaccinated people in New York, we can start to in a few weeks. Shoulder to shoulder. You have to wear a mask still. Yes. You can pack yourself into a section which is almost like normal. You promised to go to a game with me. On the other hand there arent teams do this where . Two teams. Atlanta braves and Texas-rangers'>Texas Rangers have allowed or will allow 100 capacity without vaccines required, and i should note these teams rank one and third in attendance so far this year. So there have been plenty of people willing to go out and see these Ball Games. Its a completely different picture in Southern Georgia and Texas than it is in california and New York. What do we know about the populations in these areas in terms of where the stadiums are and how many people are vaccinated . In places that will have the fully vaccd sections, its 48 . Look at Texas and georgia. 39 has one dose. Texas. 36 in georgia. In some ways, none of us are surprised in terms of decision made and behavior, right. Yes. I guess it isnt so surprising that Texas and atlanta are the two top in terms of one and three in attendance so far. Look at this. Whether or not you socially distanced. The people who will not vaccinate, 43 said they will. Theyre the least likely to social distance versus those fully vaccinated. 65 . Those partially, 73 . This is the big divide. If youre not likely to vacc vaccinate, youre far more likely to go out, which is really scary. Its like im not willing to help. They dont believe the science. Theyre willing to go out there even though theyre not vaccinated saying, screw it, we dont care what we do to hurt people. Harry enten, thank you. 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I experienced the most brutal Savage Handtohand Combat of my entire life, let alone my policing career, which spans almost two decades. That was Police Officer Michael fanone telling cnn last week about the emotional and physical trauma that he and his fellow officers suffered during the insurrection on the capitol. Officer fanone has written an Open Letter to all officials in the u. S. Demanding that they fully recognize officers and their actions and slamming those who continue to downplay the riot. Cnns Whitney Wild joins us now. His is a fascinating perspective. You can see how much he is still affected so much by what happened. I think these stories are so important to tell. Sometimes words seem like theyre going out into the universe with no impact, and this shows these were real people impacted by those words, and we can never forget this January 6th riot. Officer fanone was beaten and elect electrified numerous times. Hes still affected. 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Theres a top ten performing on facebook. Every day if you look at that list, its dominated by right wing commentators, people like Ben Shah Peer yo, dan bongino, sean hannity. You can do quite well on these platforms as a conservative. We talk about trump no longer being allowed on this platform. That doesnt mean Trump Isnt allowed on this platform. Its actually doing quite well. Nine out of the top ten shared links there are from the right. The idea theyre being silenced on Social Media doesnt bear out the facts dont bear that out. Ive got a lot of issues with facebook, but after the facebook decision, those facts we just talked about, it didnt keep you quiet, right . If you look at whats going on in conservative media, john, its a lot of sanitizing of the capitol riots, the January 6th insurrection. They dont want to talk about trumps role. They want to show him as the victim. Theyd rather portray him as the victim for being booted from the platforms for the role he played. 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It will stay below average for a lot of the weekend. Temperatures in New England on the weekend, only 62. But with the sunshine it will feel better than that if youre standing in the sun. Farther South Youll see the potential for very warm weather especially along the gulf coast. And if you havent heard about this, a chinese rocket could possibly fall on Mothers Day. Dont get excited. This is an uncontrolled release of a rocket thats going to fall back to earth. Losing altitude. Its going hit and skip off the atmosphere and eventually lose altitude and go back to earth. Why dont we know where its going to go . Because it is out of control, spinning out of control, moving at 18,000 miles per hour. If we miss it by 30 minutes, weve missed it by 9,000 miles. Heres what it looks like. Thats where theyre continuing here to be from about 41 north to 41 south. And, yes, we have some big cities in there. But theres a lot of stuff to miss, a lot of oceans and a lot of empty land in between. Well watch it, but its just kind of a whizbang thing, uncontrolled. Not a failure. Theyve planned for this to fall out of the sky. 40 tons. I think i have a chart of the memories of the past from Grateful Dead concert. The pentagon has said overnight its not going to try to shoot down this rocket as it comes back in the atmosphere. Correct. That may be because they saw a Deep Impact, and they know from Deep Impact that it doesnt work. Armageddon is better than Deep Impact. Youre on the record. We know this. They tried to shoot it down with icbms, an asteroid New Yorket a rocket, and it didnt work. I dont know if that influenced their decision. Correct. Hey, john, that was fiction. I dont know if you you know, just balancing out fiction nonfiction, but certainly this is not as big. Look at that orbital path. Its like a Horror Movie though. Its got everything covered. I guess the point is we shouldnt be too worried, as you said, thank god. Right. A similar rocket fell in 2020 and it landed in the ivory coast, so it would have taken that path riGht There. They did find pieces of debris on the ground. Didnt Hit Anybody or hurt anyone. Certainly there are big enough pieces in the rocket to make it all the way to land, but look at the amount of land we have to hit and the amount of water. The Pacific Ocean is very big. Lets hope it is there, that it lands in the water. Appreciate it. Thanks for playing, chad. New day continues right now. Im John Berman in North Korea alongside Brianna Keilar in washington on this new day. Naming names, a blistering counterattack from congresswoman Liz Cheney urging fellow republicans to abandon trump to save democracy. And Senate Minority leader Mitch Mcconnell and what hatched to bipartisanship. A Conflict Of Interestclaim tied to the president s trilliondollar infrastructure plan. And are they still following the science when were still involved with lockdowns. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. Its thursday, may 6. If Liz Cheney is going down, she plans to make her fight very public. The third Ranking Republican In The House penned an oped and shes not holding back. She writes were at a Turning Point. We republicans need to stand for genuinely conservative principles and steer away from the dangerous and

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