Know why shots are not more the same. We want Justice History repeats itself. And, yet, we never learn. Perhaps the only way to let them know is if we let this city burn. How do i explain to my threeyearold why im marching in these streets . Whats her name . Whats her name . How do i explain to my threeyearold what his death has done to me . How do i explain to my threeyearold another Black Man was killed by police . This has been declared a riot. Summer of 2020, americas reckoning. Well, lets be clear. This isnt our first reckoning on policing. This is far from the first time we have seen police battling u. S. Citizens in streets. Like a spiderman movie, this is just another reboot. Just more of us were paying attention this time. And its also not the first time we tried to figure out what exactly is wrong with policing in america. From 1967 to the current administration to find out why this keeps happening. It is frightening simple. Racism and White Supremacy were to blame. Now, what did the u. S. Do with this revelation . What we always seem to be after discovering that racism is a problem. We double down. More police, more guns, more training, more dead black, brown and indigenous folks. And more this. As you can already see, parts of this show will be graphic and hard to watch. But i really feel like with this episode its hard to show whats going on out here. We have tried to do that with respect to the victims and their families. So welcome to oakland, california. The town, my adopted home that i hope adopts me back. Where the conversation always intersting. Part of what we know is compounded. While it may be new to many of you, around here there is a call to, wait for it, Defund The Police. Its a double edged sword. Im happy to be doing a show from the police i call home. One of the ways im trying not to [ bleep ] It Up is by having you here. Then well [ bleep ] It Up together. My friend is a poet, hopefully the next mayor of oakland and the cofounder of the Antipolice Terror project. Not antipolice. Antipolice terror. I think the thing thats important to remember is its the birthplace of the black Panther Party. And the Panther Party was formed to fight Police Violence and that lays, i think, the foundation for every single movement we have seen in oakland since. I think that weve gotten to a place now where people think that terrorism is wrong. Most people who admit it is happening are clear that unarmed men, children, women, people, should not be shot in the back. Oscar grant was one of those unarmed people. Let him go. His killing by a Bay Area Transit cop started a whole new. It even kick started me. The fight we have here set the Tone And Tenor for the next ten years. We want a system that doesnt allow this to happen again. And this is why many people in oakland are way passed Police Reform and instead demanding to defund. When we met when i first came back here, that was the first time i heard the words Defund The Police. Even someone that understands the police and that the institution is built on racism, i was like, whoa lets go talk about this inside. It becomes a philosophical debate, not grounded in the numbers. James birch is a lawyer with a degree from georgetown, a human Rights Organizer and a policy organizers. When pro police americans grow up, police are venerated in their societies. They can dress like a cop for halloween. Thats not the experience i had growing up. One of the biggest problems i had growing up is to find ways to communicate across that gap. And we chose the Path Of Defund because the economics supported our position. Okay. Pay attention. Especially if you are a politician or expolitician. I guess you can use a snappy slogan like Defund The Police. But you know you have lost a big audience the minute you say it. Okay. Lets start with some basics. Snappy slogan. First thing, defund does not mean an immediate end to police. Second thing, there is a spectrum here. On the one end, there is reform. Way on the other end, there is abolition. And even proponents of an bolitn recognize there is no immediate abolition of police. I believe in radical reform. Thats what we talk about. Like what are the reforms that we can make that chip away at this current system . Here In The City of oakland, the Oakland Police Department is almost half of our general fund. And when you look at oakland in particular, all of these years, we remain one of the top deadliest cities for violent crime in the Country Year after year after year. Oakland, what are we paying for . Yeah, we say defund, but really what were saying is refund our communities. Americas are some of the Defundiest Defunders in the history of defunding stuff. Hell, we even closed hospitals during a pandemic. Take a look at schools in relation to police. As police budgets ballooned, School Education decreased. In cities across america like these, Police Departments typically soak up between 22. 5 and 44 of municipal general funds. In baltimore, that means for every dollar that goes to police, the public schools get 55 cents. The office that Funds Job programs gets five cents. Programs for substance abuse, mental Health And Violence prevention each get one measly cent. What do we get for our money . As of 2019, only 61. 4 of murders in the u. S. Were solved. Sounds like a D Minus to me. Thats the best grade on this list. Aggravated assault was at 52. 3 . Thats an f. Rate cases were at 32. 9 . Thats a super Duper F. And so on. And by the way, before you think im being too hard on the police, like thats a thing, way back in 1965, the rate for murders was 91 . In part thats because Police Today are asked to do way too many things that they should never be doing, like dealing with homelessness, substance abuse, Mental Health or patrolling the halls of schools. One basic theory of defund, and there are more than a few, says, wait a minute, why dont we take some of that money back and give it to people who are, you know, qualified to deal with those issues without killing folks in the process . But at the same time, why dont we put money back in the system that built longterm sustainable public safety and built an economy for everyone. Thats defund 101. You know, if this was a business and were giving 50 of our budget to one department that was failing across the board and killing people while they did so, you know, we would defund them immediately. Defund the police means were taking money away from this current system where its Failing And Investing in other systems that we think will succeed. It strips all that away. I think its beautiful. My dad would be happy to hear this. Hes a numbers guy. That the accountants will save us. Maybe it is the antiracist accountants that will save us. I know to many of you defund is foreign, confusing, even offensive. To others, its an idea whose time has come. Thats because we live in two separate realities in america. Why . Because racism. And in policing, racism is not a bug. Its a feature. From the very beginning, policing was designed specifically to keep black people in check. Not black criminals, black people. Dont believe me . I brought back up. Most people just think police have always been here. It is just the way a society works. Right. When we talk about that, we go back to the Founding Documents of policing. This professor Nikki Jones Uc berkeley, genius, period. The Founding Documents of Policing Appeals Principals of policing which was published in 1929. People still cite its emphasis on the relationship between policing and the public. And what the folks dont understand is at the time that peels principles were published, the public did not include black people. So the policing black people were subject to, that was dictated by the other Founding Document published in 1661. The Barbados Slave Code says what you would expect from something called a slave code. Torture, maim, hunt, rape and execute were all okay for the white enslaves to do to the en dgs slaved. They could commit all these humanitarian crimes with im imp impunity. You could draw a direct line from way back then to the modern area. Only 1. 7 of all policeinvolved killings have resulted in any type of charge against officers. And only 0. 36 in a conviction. Whats that smell . Thats impunity. That was the document that was basically copied and pasted into the colonies and then codefied in state and then federal law. If were going to think about any way of really addressing the problem with policing, we have to be able to acknowledge the systemic racism that is embedded in policing as a consequence of the Barbados Slave Codes. At what point does america start to lock at policing and go, whoops . So you see this certainly with the Kerner Report. So the Kerner Report is published in the wake of what president Lyndon Johnson saw as riots and uprisings in cities across the country. The president says, we have to figure out what happened, why it happened and how to prevent it. And what he probably didnt expect was the answer that came down from the Kerner Report. Yeah. In 1968, after seven months of study, the 11member commission, 9 of whom were white, released a 427 Page Report which was a political at tom bomb. It not only exposed the police as the tip of americas racist spear, it pointed to systemic and cultural white racism as the Driving Force of that spear. The key finding was that two societies, one white, one black and unequal. White people are complicit in the structural conditions that people were rebelling against. So they dismantle the institution of policing and things get better after that . Dont get me started. These are not bad radicals. So what must have come next must have been a revolution and transformation. Yeah. But, in fact, thats not what happened. But what you did see was a fundamental transformation over the next 50 years of policing. But not the way they thought, right . Well, we saw the militarization of police. We saw the rise of the warrior cop. And that is happening as the decades march on. We get to the war on violence. We get to the war on drugs. We get to the war on Terror And Policing is adapting to each moment. What we have now is the most professional, most well armed, most welltrained Police Department that weve had in our nations history. And yet the fundamental problems have not gone away. Time is running out for the merchants of crime and corruption in american society. It used to be a land of liberty. The lawabiding citizens of our country have made their voices heard. When a politician, doesnt matter what side of the aisle theyre on, if they want to make sure they win, they will say im a Law And Order candidate. Im a tough on crime candidate. And we have seen the devastation. Whenever policing is in america, it has put a bunch of us in a state of permanent ptsd. It is not a good cop of bad apple. It is about the institution of policing that some people think is a way to have Peace And Safety and others use it as a way to distribute violence. Oo you may have many reasons for waiting to go to your doctor right now. But if youre experiencing leg pain, swelling, or redness, dont wait to see your doctor. These could be symptoms of deep vein thrombosis, a Blood Clot which could travel to your lungs and lead to a pulmonary embolism. 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In case you are just joining us, thats saying a lot. All i know about vallejo is e40. Shout out to Matt Dre as well. Oh, yeah. Me i came to vallejo because i felt that people werent being heard. Yeah. Otis taylor is a journalist who spent the last three years documents Police Violence in vallejo, california. In 2017 there was a viral video of Police Violence against the Black Man. The officer unholstered his gun and pointed it at bystanders. Why is this acceptable behavior for a person filming Police Violence to be threatened by an officer with a gun . That brought me up here. And once i got up here, i just started hearing all of these stories. Police in this city have killed 19 people since 2017, Giving Vallejo the highest rates of Police Killing of any department in the u. S. , including willy mccoy, a 20yearold approached by police on a Welfare Check while asleep in his car. Gun, gun, gun. Call it out. There is a gun in his lap. What do you think, man . If he reaches for it its locked. What are you doing . Hes moving. Hes not up yet. Shots fired. Officers are okay. After leaning forward and scratching his shoulder, he was given three seconds to comply before six cops fired 55 rounds killing him. Police say he reached for his gun. But no Camera Angle i have seen shows that. And remember this. It was just last august in kenosha, wisconsin when Kyle Rittenhouse had his hands on his gun with people screaming, he shot people, and the police just ignored him. Vallejo is like a distillation of the problems that a lot of places, i think, are facing. Jeff king is a Lawyer And Teacher at uc berkeley. He is also the Founder And Ceo of open vallejo, an Information And Advocacy website focussing on transparency here in his hometown. Our first scoop was that Vallejo Cops had been bending the tips of their badges. One for each person they killed. That says something is wrong with the culture and the institution you work in, right . We have seen this before in Police Departments, specifically in Los Angeles with Clip Names like the grim reapers, vikings and the executioners who through Inking Partys to tattoo new members. In vallejo, the allegations are the fatale 14, who are under investigation for allegedly throwing badge bending parties. Allegedly. Are we good, lawyers . There is an officer with five shootings. One with four fatale shootings. It was only 7,800 Law Enforcement all over the country. They found that 73 of Law Enforcement officers have never fired their weapon. Never . 40 of vallejo Police Department had been in at least one shooting, and about a third of those had been in two or more. There have been 63 shootings by the vallejo Police Department, 30 of them fatale. Over the past 20 years, it looks like Vallejo Police have been responsible for about 10 of all the homicide In The City. And the killing continues. Even in the wake of George Floyd. Shawn, an unarmed 22yearold who was shot through the throat and out the back of his head with a suppressed tactical rifle from the backside of an unmarked pickup truck. He pointed a gun at us. By the way, when he was shot, shawn was unarmed and on his knees with his hands up. That gun the police thought they say was a hammer. Put your hands out. Put your hands out. Oh. Stupid. When George Floyd died, it took a man almost 2,000 miles away for many City Officials to act like Police Brutality was a problem. Sorry, mr. George floyd. Vallejo is tired. And im tired of everybody killing ours. It is not just blacks. Its killing us for no reason. Angle ramos you have to know who the people who were killed here were. She should start locality. Yes. This police is saturated with the blood of people in this community. Angle ramos, that case really just jumped out at me. Angle ramos was killed in 2017 by vallejo pd. He was shot four times by police on his own Back Porch after a neighbor called 911 about a fight. What was your life like before this . I was just a regular mom at home with my kids. Yeah. Thats it. So what is your life like now that youre an activist . I find myself a lot more sad. A lot more angry. When angel was killed, the media did what the media does. They cut and paste the Police Narrative into the nightly news, leaving the family in tears. So when otis came, it was like, if you mess up by the time i left there, i was like there is no way this happened the way the police said it happened. They were saying police were on top of them about to stab them. When the Police Officer, to save Someones Life shot him, where does that knife go . Medical examiners, investigators, no knife was found on that porch. They found a knife in the kitchen. And then the initial Press Reports are Vallejo Police say Angel Ramos was threatening a 16yearold minor with a knife. Even the minor told me there was no knife. We were fighting. We have seen this dynamic play over and over as victims families cry for justice. First the media embraces the Police Narrative. Police describe a melee happening at this house right behind me. One man armed with a knife. Then comes the, he was no angel character assassination. Followed by the Da Bumping Down the charges by the cops or likely not pressing charges at all. Our investigation indicates that he reacted properly. The whole system creates a structure that even in my show with my name on it, i cant say that person was murdered when clearly that person was i have to say killed. Vallejo declared a State Of Emergency to get the situation and the department under control. The Vallejo Police chief said the vallejo Police Department takes all allegations of misconduct not consistent with our core values very seriously. We want our community to know that we are committed to creating a culture of accountability, Transparency And Discipline that drives us all closer together rather than apart, end quote. And, look, we are years away from knowing if these moves will actually change the department. Hopefully so. But understandably, after all this death, many in the community remain skeptical. When they murdered my brother, its hard because i still read articles and hear the same story over and over. What happened to the officer who shot your brother . He trains new cops. Thats his position right now. In vallejo . Uhhuh. That is why the culture pervades. You wonder why there are systemic issues in policing. Thats what were dealing with in vallejo. Thats what were dealing with in america. I need a lawn. Quick. The fast way to bring It Up to speed. Is scotts turf builder rapid grass. It grows two times faster than seed alone for full, green grass. Everything else just seems. Slow. Its lawn season. 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Usually this is not something that you ask permission for, so you want to be as quick as possible. Get It Up and keep it moving . Pretty much. I started this project in 2014. I was coming back from the annual vigil they have at the Bart Station for Oscar Grant. You know im going to keep making this. It just evolved into that. Where i saw people would take it off of my Facebook Page and print it out themselves and then Little By little i set up the website. Part of what we have to do is like mourn and grieve and, you know, people create installations. And i think the thing that it also does is that, you know, i dont know all of these stories. You sort of get reminded that it is not just the ones you know. Wow. Look at this. Is that a child . Wow. Yeah. He was one of the children that died because there was like wow. Also one of the young women who died. Elijah mcclain, thats the one who always hits me. Stop right there. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. I have a right to stop you because suspicious. Elijah mcclain was walking home from Buying Tee when three Police Officers put him in a Choke Hold, a Choke Hold that has since been made illegal. Im just different. Thats all. Paramedics forcibly injected E Elijah Ket mean. And of course the police were not charged with anything. Defund the shit out of this. Look, i see myself in elijahs story. Im different, too. Always have been. Elijah was a massage therapist. He taught himself violin. And then he played it for Spray C stray cats. Im sure his mother fought to protect her son the same way that mine fought to protect me, knowing full well that the way this country sees black children, especially our young men and boys, puts a target on their back from day one. You know, i went to oakland public schools. And when you grow up in a place that is overwhelmingly majority students of color, there is just a different way that the system views kids behavior. The education system, a system thats supposed to be sort of the great equalizer, is actually often complicit in mass incarceration. Jackie buyers is the Executive Director of the black Organizing Project. She and her team fought to get police out of oakland skills. Nicole lee is the director of the urban peace league. She is a fighter for kids who get caught in the trap of the juvenile justice system. In oakland, as young as elementary school, students are policed. So when students have interactions with Law Enforcement, interactions that normally might be behavior issues turn into referrals into a juvenile system. And then when people end up in the juvenile system, there is a likelihood to end up in prison. I dont know that i even realize that oakland unified School District had its own Police Department. Right . You have teachers trying to just get paid enough to live in oakland. You have students who are losing programs. So to think that with all that disinvestment, that then you would have the research to invest in your own Police Department, it just didnt make sense. What activated jackie to question the use of School Police was the 2011 killing of rahime brown. A lot of folks did amazing work to get justice for him and his family. We decided to take a different path and look at what was happening sort of widely with the school system. Interactions with Law Enforcement, even if it doesnt lead to arrest, can lead to higher rate of suspensions and expulsions. If you are in a place where you are always surrounded by law pho enforcement, it takes away your ability to be a kid. Thats right. I think their innocence gets stolen here. We spend i think 16,000 per student in our school system. But last year right here in this county we spent 490,000 a year per youth to keep a kid in detention, so basically half A Million dollars. So you see School Officials say in order to right size the system, we have to close the rules. But if you look at the juvenile justice system, we have 358 beds. Right now there is 48 kids in there. No one is telling those people to right size the system. We want our children to go to state schools. Were not fighting against them. Were fighting for something. In 2011, jackie and the black Organizing Project started the bettering our Schools System or Boss Campaign because you got to have an acronym. And in 2020 acronym accomplished. We have dismantled an entire Police Department. Yeah [ applause ] the panthering would be proud. All these Oakland Activists and militants always saying these crazy things like feed the kids breakfast. Thats the crazy thing about it. You have to be the one to say the crazy things in the room like we need free Breakfast Programs and we need police out of the school. This is the legacy of Count Land Oakland activists. We have to do for ourselves because No One else is coming to help us. It is on us but luckily we are enough. And as art has taken over much of the streets, on walls, on boarded up buildings, it is about doing for ourselves, too. This is our streets. This is our town. And we can make sure that it reflects our spirit, our beliefs, our power, our heroes and maybe most importantly, our goddamn unity. Stand up, oakland. That looks beautiful. I have to say that i do have a level of pride knowing that i helped with this a little bit. My oakland card, this is like a punch. Its definitely oakland that brought this out of me. Thank you, brother. Thank you. Much love. Much love. Yeah i know, yeah. But i am here. I think its the gray, actually. I didnt used to be this gray when i met you. Three kids and a pandemic put it on a negro. I may not be a physicist, but i can teach my kids to love science. Like many people with moderate to severe Ulcerative Colitis or crohns disease, i was there. 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To treat acute, nonlow Back Muscle and joint pain with topical nsaids first. A formulation they recommend can be found in salonpas. A formulation they recommend can be found in salonpas. Salonpas. Its good medicine. Hisamitsu. In 1878, congress passed the act that says what should be obvious. Soldiers are for war. And police are for, well, policing. But since swat was developed in Los Angeles in 1965, it has become harder and harder to tell the difference between cops and commandos. Each time we declare another war on crime or drugs, the police become more militarized. That was definitely the Case Post9 11 when the government established sweeping rights to fight if war or terror. People think policies put in place after 9 11 impacted only arab and muslim. But thats not true. It was an opportunity to further justify the existing criminalization of black and brown communities. Thats why we got involved. Laura is a Palestinian American born and raised in San Francisco. Shes the Executive Director of the Air Resource and organizing center. Urban shield, and i love to say was because we were able to put an end to it as of last year, it was the largest militarized Police Training in the world. It was taking place on the week of 9 11 each year. It was training cops, firefighters, nurses to respond to disasters as if they were at war with community. It brought the state of israel to train with local Law Enforcement. You cant argue that its not occupied. So at The End of the day, it was really important for us to shed light on that and for people to know that that war that you are watching on tv is happening every day to every day people in this country. I mean, am i right at which there is a point where the police were the police and the military was the military and theyre not linked the way they were linked. When we think about swat we have seen historically the intensification of swat programs. Then there is the 1033 programs. The 1033 program is like the standard Action Move Slhow wher our hero straps down with all the weapons he can carry. Police departments have to pay the cost of shipping and they can get the tank of their dreams and our nightmares. It is not just the tanks. Tt the Tactics T Training and the mentality. Remember officer friendly . I dont. Maybe hes drowning in all that tactical gear. We loved all those schwarzenegger movies, but i dont want him showing up at my house. There is another way possible. It is definitely a new day. Hearing right wing people that hate hearing Defund The Police having to talk about it. When you have our opposition responding to it, thats a win. With you are began shield, our goal from the very beginning was redistribution of priority and of money. If we were going to make our case, we needed to show them what could be funded as an alternative. Divest in Law Enforcement and reinvest in the community. People love to skip that Investment Part and create Nightmare Scenarios about cop hitting come mys running amuck. Things would fall apart instantly. It would take hours. Literally nobody wants that. Across the bay, San Francisco is celebrated for its progressive politics. It has long been divesting in the black and brown communities. Now, San Franciscos first black female mayor is looking to take that on. We will have a conversation. Im not smart enough to do anything else other than have a consideration. So thank you for doing this. Im happy to be here. It is always good to be here with the mayor. And with you. Alicia garza and Mayor Breed are two powerhouse women raised in the bay. Alicia is one of the cofounders of black lives mayor. It is always good to be home. You know, in my hood, my stomping grounds. What was this when you were a kid . People in the community will know this as vergos. We would walk down here looking for the guys, hanging out. There are a lot of lowincome developments right here. I lived in public housing up the street. San francisco was 3 black. Oh, yeah. We were on the decline, though. I will say that. There was a complete dismantling of the infrastructure our communities need to be safe. A complete dismantling of Mental Health services and people without homes to go and get access to shelter. Looking at all these disparities, when i have talked about diverting the 120 Million from the Police Department, i wanted to make it clear to People Part of what it does mean is investment. And, so, that involving looking at everything were doing as a city. Mayor breeds proposed plan would trim the San Francisco Police Departments nearly 700 Million annual budget by almost 6 . That, along with additional cuts to the sheriffs department, would mean reducing the total budget by 120 Million. That money is slated to go directly to housing, Mental Health services and education. But its a delicate dance working with Police Departments. And it is about way more than just math. How do we change the culture of the Police Department . We change that by making sure that we deal with the biases that exist in our department. We change our policies. I mean, in 2006, my cousin, unfortunately, was killed by the police here in San Francisco. And there was no independent investigation. Now, as a result, when an officer pulls their weapon out, even if they dont use it, there is an independent investigation. Many people, and i would include myself, feel like you have to figure out how to start over from the ground up and go, how would you build an organization that is not rotten to the core in a way a lot of people feel like policing is in this country. Dismantle and then what . We are doing the hard work every day. The stuff we have to do to get approval of the unions to actually do the reform. The unions are a whole other issue. We cannot talk about policing in america without talking about Police Unions. While most unions are pro workers, Police Unions are pro power. While we all say we want to get rid of the bad apples, Police Unions regularly use that power to protect the bad apples. Take the case of jasmine. The Police Department of a major California City has devolved into chaos. Claims of elicit sex. In 2016, when she was 19, she told local news that she had had sex with dozens of officers from multiple Bay Area Law Enforcement agencies, including when she was a minor, all to avoid arrest. I know some of you always want to take the Place Side in shootings of unarmed black people even in gray areas. But sex with a minor is rape. If you are a Law Enforcement officer giving out protection for sexual services, you should be fired and prosecuted. But in The End, despite egregious legal and ethical violations, the union was able to protect all the cops but four. They were fired. Only one was prosecuted. Thats not a union. Thats a gang. We have to fight battles. We were called unthinkable names. And the stuff we went through to get these policy changes in san fran francisco, that was not easy. At The End of the day, the process of reshaping and reforming systems and transforming them has to do with a new things. Where we put money. Who makes the rules, right . And what is the pressure that officials feel . Because, honestly, a lot of these systems were designed to not be dismantled. And at the same time, can policing be reformed . Im not clear about that. Im of the opinion that these systems do need to be dismantled. And i also believe that something needs to replace them. So, to me, what this is doing is sparking the creative imagination of folks who have been fighting to change these systems for a long time and to have a champion in power is a big deal. Its a big deal. Im sure these arent the last things you plan to do. You said its not enough. Youre still ready to hit it. 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Is this where we are . To me, it is this moment of being a Black Man in a police uniform. Right . There are some problems, systemic problems thats been in policing for a very long time that you know need to be rooted out. So you sit in this place where youre like, do i fit in . Sometimes you even ask the question do i fit in . Im a Black Man before i take off the uniform. But, see, some people will see me as a person in blue that dont think that i identify with even those that are protesting. I was reading about your work together and something struck me that some of the work that youre doing was teaching Police Officers how to treat people like human beings. Yeah. Kind of a deep thing. And i was like, isnt this something they cover at the academy . No. Doesnt that define that its broken . This has become the culture in policing. Culture eats policy for breakfast. We can pass policies, and we believe that. But culture eats the policy. I think its a bit more complex than that. The reason i say that is because part of what we teach in the class is also the impact of policing in an environment where every day you are responding to peoples emergencies, right . And the reality is studies have shown that it is going to have an effect on you, right . So these are Mental Health things that need to be addressed, too. There is some Health And Wellness things with Police Officers that this country has not invested in. Look, i know parts of this show feel harsh on the police. I also know the current system of policing doesnt work for many cops either. The grind of dealing with too many of our social ills along with, you know, actual crimes leaves many cops jaded, exhausted and frustrated. Some of the calls that ive had, the greatest threats to my life is calls i thought was lowlevel calls. The one i almost died on was a simple, go talk to a guy. When i approached him, he immediately started pulling a gun out of his pocket. And im like unprepared. I came in this profession because i cared about the community, because i had a brother that was killed in the community. There are officers every day making the ultimate sacrifice, and i think that should be commended. I respect the dignity of the public safety agent. Yes. But can you imagine if the size of the Police Department was the size of the Fire Department . And just like firefighters only show up to put up a fire, Police Officers only show up to address armed situation. Armed violent crime. Firefighters used to be called to get cats out of the tree. Then they hired some Pet Control people because they understood, man, thats not a good use of that firefighters time. I hope whatever side you are on, you can see that the violence we are consistently seeing is because of a broken system and the 50 years since kerner has showed intensifying Law And Order. We got to be able to imagine new systems while we reconcile those truths with the peoples actual needs. Sometimes you might need a Police Officer. But honestly, how often . Every day In The City of oakland, there are 2,000 calls a day from people who actually have emergencies, right . And would like somebody to respond and provide them service. Isnt It A Problem they have one number to call for that emergency . Right. But thats the progression. What does another system look like . What other number is available . Maybe there is a number specifically for Mental Health or Mental Health related issues. Or if a black guy is looking at birds in central park. I mean to your point, right, there is a conversation to have about whats next, right . What is the next step . I think Law Enforcement has to prepare themselves for that conversation, that maybe you need to do less. But nobody wants less money. See, you cant have your cake and eat it, too. Thats why were here, praise god. Cake for everybody. 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Over the next 10 years, comcast is committing 1 Billion to reach 50 Million lowincome americans with the tools and resources they need to be ready for anything. I hope youre ready. cause we are. They just shot that guy they just shot that guy i remember the Day Oscar Reed was killed. I remember how it spreads through the Bay Area. I remember going to those protests. I remember being afraid. I remember when he was found guilty of something called involuntary manslaughter. He was murdered. My son was murdered. Oakland has never been the same. We spend so much time talking about what we dont want. We know how to say no to a lot of things, but we also know how to say yes. Yes to me is running for office, setting policy. I think thats the next frontier. We have to start running shit. I agree with you. If the institutions here are just as screwed up as institutions all across this country. Thats right. But the people who live here demand better. Absolutely. Regularly. If you want to know what change actually looks like, Latifa Simon is it. A single black Mom And Widow who is also a genius grant recipient. She is now the president of the Board Of Directors of bart, what you outsiders call our subway. When my husband died, after bankruptcy, fighting cancer and im on the train with my little baby at the time, just three and a half, and i was like, i want to run this system. My people are on this system. Oscar died on this system. Institutions, if were talking about creating an antiracist society, what we have to look at is how institutions atone for their wrongs. Young men like oscar who are dehumanized in his very essence in his last moment called a Bitch Ass Nigger by a Police Officer who had a knee in his neck and we saw that young man die in front of our eyes. And, so, whats so beautiful about this space today, i get out and i look at that mural. And you tell me what institution in this country has a couple stories of the face of the man that they killed . And thats why were here. Right here is where the actual bullet had traveled through oscars body, hit the platform floor, bounced back up and went into his chest, collapsing one of his lungs. This is Oscar Grants mother. Uncle bobby his uncle, beatrice his aunt. While bobby has visited this spot before, i find when i get there, this is the first time that momma came to the place where her son was shot and killed. Imagine whats going through her mind and what shes going through to be here. Is it incredibly powerful for you to be doing this work . There is no reason you should have to do it. We would all understand if you just needed to mourn your son and not continue to Stand Up for him and others. Its very difficult being at this spot, but i do want people to know that oscar did not die in vain, that he was the start of a Catalyst Movement of whats going on today. You know, i remember years ago oscar and i had prayed unto the lord and the lord showed Me Oscar and i would be in ministry together. I didnt realize that until him losing his life. And even though hes not here today, we are still in ministry together. Its because of him that im able to stand here before you today and to be able to share his fight and to share with others that there still is hope even in the midst of situations like this. In our movement, we always say you changed the world, you and oscar. You know, you helped develop a new voice for black women in this country who were ignored for decades and decades. Some might say centuries who have lost their children to the state. There is a grace and a power that only a black mother exudes. I know it is tough to be here, but you have no idea what you have done and what you continue to do. I am Oscar Grant. I am trayvon martin. I am jamal crawford. There are so many i ams. We have to work together. Does it ever get too frustrating that we havent learned a lesson that we should have learned from oscar . If i get frustrated, i wont be able to do it. So i have to keep that clear focus to be able to remind myself, no matter what, you cant give up. You have to keep on sharing what happened to oscar and what we need to do to end these type of things from happening again. We have an obligation to love others as we love ourselves. Thats what our nation needs. This whole thing is about love. Oscar brought to the world what love looked like. Oscar didnt just die her. He was resurrected here. And his voice still is heard across this world. Where Oscar Grant was killed, it really felt like an Oakland Story at the time. But it is a testament to the Bay Area. Testament to the activists, a testament to oscars family that they kept his name out there so he would not be forgotten. The Bay Area is a beautiful place. Oakland is a beautiful and powerful place. Every day people are creating incredible art and ideas that will change the world. But more importantly, change our world. Imagine how many more amazing pieces of Art And World shaking ideas could be created if we just didnt have to focus so much of our survival, if we didnt live in a system that not only doesnt value our lives but often actively seeks to wipe us out. Do you know what this is . This is joy. We could have had a whole show of this. We want more of this, we need to dismantle, reconceive and in some cases defund the systems that target us and refund life, refund liberty, refund the pursuit of all this. Go on with your bad self. Xxxxx a big tent. President biden lays out his sweeping agenda. Its time to grow the economy from the bottom and the middle out. But as challenges grow is he open to a different approach. Ill speak with senior Adviser Anita Dunn and Senator Susan collins next. And a divided house. Republicans look to punish leaders who broke with former President Trump as the House Minority Leader doubles down on the Big Lie and a lot of big little lies. In todays republican party there is room for anyone else. Ill speak with Biden Backer and