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Until the knee comes off of our necks. Im pamela ground in washington. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. You are live in the cnn newsroom on this sunday. We start tonight with Breaking News. A tragedy off the California Coast with a desperate search for survivors going on right now as we speak. This is happening near san diego. Emergency Officials Say a boat flipped over with more than two dozen people onboard. Some of those people are confirmed dead. That death toll going up in just the past few minutes. Cnns Josh Campbell is near san diego with details. Officials are about to hold a Press Conference with more information, but at this point what can you tell us . We are waiting for that Press Conference to get Additional Details on the response from officials and what they are seeing there on the ground. We know this accident has resulted in fatalities, that coming from officials there in the san diego area, telling us three people onboard the vessel have died. There were over 20 people transported to local hospitals in and around this point loma area near san diego. We dont know the condition of those injuries. Were told that many of those were superficial injuries, but three people are suffering from serious injures. As far as the cause of this, we dont have Information On it yet or the circumstances surrounding the vessels Route Of Travel. The san diego area, there near point loma, its an area known for Shipping Lanes and there are tours that happen in and around there and its off the coast of a u. S. Navy Air Station Facility that is home to aircraft carriers, so theres lot of activity in and around that area as well, and we dont have information about what this vessel was doing and what this Route Of Travel was, and u. S. Customs and boarder protection have in the past interdicted certain smuggling operations, and everything is on the table right now, and we are waiting to hear from officials about what the specifics are about of this vessel, but three people are dead and over 20 people taken to the hospital. Pamela . We are waiting for that information. I know right now its tough because you are not working with much, but do you have any idea of what type of vessel this was . We dont know. We have seen some images on social media that appear to dee picked a debris field that would indicate this was not a vessel that was sea worthy, for example, of Military Grade or some type of shipping or pleasure craft. Again, there have been incidents in the past where you see different types of vessels used to transport people illegally that are not sea worthy, and too early to confirm that at this point but it doesnt appear to be some large sea going vessel, and we hope to get more details on this particular boat and its Route Of Travel. Now, turning to a party in disarray. The republicans caught in a circular firing squad. Last night republican senator, mitt romney, narrowly avoided a censure at the Utah Convention but could not ignore a chorus of boos. You know me as a person that says what he thinks, and i was not a fan over the last president s character issues, and im also no fan this morning fellow republican senator and trump critic, susan collins, had this to say. I was appalled. Mitt romney is an outstanding senator that surfs his state and our country well. We are not a party that is led by just one person. Meanwhile in arizona the state party is barrelling ahead with the skewed audit of the 2020 election feed into the big lie cooked up by donald trump. Arizona republican cindy mccain slammed the effort today. Its ludicrous. This also comes from a state party in arizona that refused to be audited themselves on votes casts in their own party communications, so you know, its the election is over and biden won. I know many dont like the outcome but elections have consequences. I, you know, this does not surprise me, you know, things are just aloof and crazy out there right now with regards to the election. For the second time in as many weeks, former president george w. Bush sounded exacerbates as he warned about the partys future. You know, its its to me thats it basically says that we want to be extinct. But i know this, if the Republican Party stands for exsluicetive tea, its not going to win anything. And liz cheney is in danger of losing her Leadership Party because shes out of step with the Capitol Attack and trumps role in it. The rise of trump loyalist that led to the rift in the gop is against this backdrop, and 70 of republicans think biden was not legally elected. The election that biden won fairly and squarely. Last night i spoke to Roger Marshall of kansas. He was one of the six senators that voted against certifying the electoral results for two states hours later, and i asked about consequences of decisions like that from gop lawmakers and if he had any regret. Its time to move on. Its time for this country to heal and its time for a spirit of forgiveness to be happening. We would all love to heal and move on from this sameful episode of our country, but here 8 thing, the reality is republicans and their followers have not moved on from the election, and those officials who are complicit with their silence should be held accountable. And here in arizona, theres a partisan audit of ballots, and this year republicans in almost every single State Legislature have introduced new Voting Restrictions and are using lies like rampant voter fraud, and trump is claiming the actual real results of the election will come out any day now. Lets see what they find. I wouldnt be spiurprised if th found thousands and thousands and thousands of votes, so we will watch that closely, and after that you will watch pennsylvania and georgia and you will watch, michigan, and new hampshire, they found a lot of votes up in new hampshire, because it was a rigged election and Everybody Knows it. Backtrack, not true, just have to say that, again. And the same gop propaganda that head to a deadly attack on the u. S. Capitol, as you see it has not gone away. Thats why i challenge every single republican i have on the show who voted to overturn the election, and they dont get to have Everybody Sing Kumbaya until they stop saying and supporting things to overturn this. And welcome brian stelter, and brian, i am curious what you would think, The Republicans, has anything stood out to you about how republicans shift the way they talk about the election and the Capitol Attack . As more and more rioters have been held accountable, reality must be denied. Thats the approach of the pro trump media and allies throughout congress and on capitol hill. Deny reality. Down play the riot. Pretend it was not that bad. Pretend this merry band of patriots were not trying to overturn the election and do damage to this election. Its happening because this is the war on terror party. This is the pro police party. This is the black the blue party. This is the party that is supposed to stand with the police and against terror and yet this was a Terror Attack committed by its members, mostly by its members. Thats the fundamental shame that must be extinguished and covered up. Thats what we are seeing, whether its stars on fox news or lawmakers on capitol hill. They are trying to somehow extinguish the shame, cover it up, whether they focus on Government Overreach in particular cases of prosecutions, and whether they really emphasize the possibility that antifa was behind it, which is bull, and we all know it was bull, and people are even saying they know its bull. Unfortunately it comes to an attempt to deny reality gaining momentum over the last few months out of the memory hole out of shame and embarrassment. And you have to make a decision, right . There are three buckets, you could choose not to have the elect The Republicans to, and challenge them how they were silent in the big lie in the election, and you can not have them on at all . And you heard the senator from kansas last night saying it was time to move o. N, and what do u think is the proper way to handle this . What they need to do is make a hierarchy, the 170 republicans who voted to over concern the election, the most serious deniers of reality in the election versus the least, and perhaps have different policies for them. I think you have to have a discussion within each ko organization, and each show, and what is the policy . Do we not allow them on the air until we have disavowed their original views . The one thing that is that not doable is denial, which is it has been practiced, i think, by the media as well as so Many Republican politicians, as brian said, when senator rick scott can just waltz on to abc news and George Stephanopoulos this week and face zero questions about stop the steal and his vote to decertify the votes in pennsylvania, thats the kind of denial among the media class, and i dont think that does anything good. But to pull the camera back a little bit, pamela, we have a twoparty system and one of the two parties is antidemocratic. The routines and assumptions of Mainstream Political Journalism is not built for that situation. The real problem is not just these kinds of questions and not what to do about the stop the steal politicians, its about what do we do when we have a twoparty system and one of them is antidemocratic. Brian, this is something you have thought about and written about as well . Pamela, you deserve credit for not letting go of this, and dana bash has thought about how to handle this issue, this antidemocratic movement. Its fundamentally true that we are in the battle, as biden has said, about democracy versus autocracy. But to pretend like its happening is the worst way to handle this story, and when i watch fox news and they have moved on entirely from the riot and acted like it didnt happen. Can you imagine those channels in 2001 . Behind me is the rebuilt trade center in the monitor behind me, but to think about those networks in early 2022 pretending the towers had not been taken down by terrorists, and what happened on january 6th was a lower magnitude, thank god a lower magnitude, but we see an invasion of power by extremists in our own country, and its something folks dont want to think about because its so embarrassing and uncomfortable and frightening. I wonder, sometimes, how the folks at this rightwing networks, how are they comfortable ignoring it . How are they comfortable ignoring this threat to democracy . I dont know is the honest answer, pamela. Its so interesting, they are ignoring it and still pushing gop propaganda about the big election lie. Right. Thats the thing. You are seeing it play out in arizona. Arizona, yeah. With the audit going on. I spoke to some politicians pra privately, and they say so publicly that biden was elected justly, and so you know, by journalists ignoring the issue and not bringing it up, are you giving republicans who dont want to be held accountable in their party exactly what they want . As you have seen on this show, i put it out there to invite republicans on and hold them accountable. What do you think about staying silent, jay . I think its an when they invite politicians on and dont confront them, its something that is goinging on in the background. The Republican Party convinced its base that the election was stolen to such a degree that the stop the steal idea is kind of running the party, its sort of taken root and its gotten its own momentum behind it, and regardless of what Party Leaders try to do, if they try to move o. As Roger Marshall kept saying today in your interview with him, and theres something about it, and its like a virus that has caught fire and in a way its bigger than the party and the party cant even stop it if it wanted to because so many of its voters had been persuaded by the party itself that this happened, and if the election was stolen, that is a major crisis on american democracy that is ongoing. You can see how it kind of drives people crazy. In a lot of ways the party is leaching power to direct itself because its lies have been so successful. Its interesting how circular it has been for these elected officials, right . By going along with trump and the Conspiracy Theories they convince the base that the Conspiracy Theories were true, right, and now they are using that as justification for some of these voting laws across the country. We are seeing a record number, right, on this big lie . And you also have the other republicans that know is a total sham but are too afraid to say anything because they are too far in. Its fascinating seeing things play out before our eyes. Thank you both and i hope you will be back to continue this conversation. Thanks. Thanks, pamela. Ten years later the plot to take out Osama Bin Laden told by the people in the room. Garrett graph joins us with his extraordinary political reporting, and later this hour, chaos on the pitch as Manchester United fans vent anger at the clubs american owners. First, andrew brown jr. Fatally shot by deputies in North Carolina will be laid to rest tomorrow. 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Protesters have gathered in Elizabeth City for the 12th straight day to voice outrage over browns killing and demand release from the Police Body Cam video. Cnns natasha chen is there. Natasha, tell us, what are you seeing . Reporter in the last 15 minutes or so the crowd just wrapped up and dispersed but they had been marching all around Elizabeth City for a couple hours, starting at the waterfront and stopping at Andrew Browns home where he was killed on april 21st, held vigil there for a moment next to a wall where a new mural had been pointed, Something Different about this protests because we have seen continuous protests every single day since his death, and Something Different today is that his family was marching at the front of the line. Very poignant, a lot of supporters joining them and calling for transparency for the body Camera Footage to all be released, not just the 20 seconds of one cameras angle that was not apparently shown to just one family member, according to the brown family. A judge did say that the family can view more of the footage in the coming days, but that same judge denied the request for more footage to be released to the public. Here is one cousin and an aunt of andrew brown jr. Talking about how difficult this moment is. Were grieving but doing what we have to do, because of the way things happened, we know we have to protest and we have a long road ahead. This is literally just the beginning. In the midst of breathing, as the saying goes, the cows still have to be milked, so theres a lot of work to be done and be here and fight for justice for him, and release the tapes, every angle, every body camp was on, we need to see it. This doesnt end today, it does not end tomorrow, we have to celebrate his life, and it may not end for a year, and it has to change things not just in North Carolina, but everywhere, so we would not have died in vain. One thing i got on video of a 5yearold girl that was given the megaphone to lead the chants, and she and her family are from Elizabeth City, just an example of many families that brought their small children out here, and there was a public viewing this afternoon as well for Andrew Browns body, and theres a funeral tomorrow where al sharpton will speak. Next hour we will talk to an attorney for the brown family and ask him about the discrepancies between the sheriffs departments accountant, and the brown family after seeing a snippet of the video. Coming up, we will get you answers, like when can we take off our masks . Stay with us. Gigi pinky and rocky. Simi there was an uprising in poland. David and then the family broke apart. 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In blue, brazil in yellow, and the red line is india here on this graph. Cnn medical analyst, celine grounder, joining me now. Shes a former New York City commissioner, and great to see you as always. People are returning to their workplace soon if they have not already. What if im near someone that i know has not been vaccinated, what should you do . You have to look at the circumstances in your community and also in the workplace. Many parts of the country right now still have very high levels of community transmission, but others do not. So one, know what is happening in your community and know what is happening within your work, with respect to distance apart and masking and whether they have ventilation in place. I want to get to our first Viewer Question on this. How close are we to saying everybody who wants a shot has had an opportunity and restrictions are removed in full. We know the demand for the vaccine is starting to dwindle. When do you think all restrictions will be lifted including mask wearing . Look, we have made remarkable progress. Half of adults have been vaccinated in the country, and 40 of adults have been fully vaccinated and not just one dose, and so we made remarkable progress, and not everybody that wants to be vaccinated wants to be vaccinated, and theres been a slight slowdown in our pace of vaccinations but we are still on average delivering 2. 5 million doses of vaccine into arms every day, still. I think were making great progress. I think president bidens projection of probably around the Fourth Of July seems to be on target, but it will vary depending on the county and state you live in. I have a lot of questions about a autoimmune diseases, an one viewer said after the second shot it activated shingles, and i support vaccines but are you seeing reports of this . We got another similar question from another viewer asking if theres rare Tphaourneurologica Effects . Is ther data showing theres effects . Theres some of the well, you have the vaccine and Something Else happens, and correlation is not causation, and if you have a heart attack the day after the vaccination doesnt mean you would not have had a heart attack anyway, and we have seen six cases where people have developed shingles, and they are not getting a new infection with shingles, and shingles is React Tinvestigatio of the chickenpox. Could the vaccines cause what we call bells policy, and there was a paper published looking at this question, and we do not see an association of the Covid Vaccines or any vaccines with bells policy, and if you got so individual you could have this, but not the vaccines. Just to be clear, if you have an autoimmune disease, your recommendation is to get vaccinated, right . I would still recommend getting vaccinated, audtoimmune disease or cancer or anything like that. Thank you. Well be back after this break. 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I am not against vaccines. I have to say, i have heard this from a lot of different people. What are your thoughts on this . Look, they are right. We dont have longterm studies on the Covid Vaccine in people and we only started studying these vaccines in people a year ago, and thats as long as we have followup Information On. We know with other vaccinations if you are going to have a severe complication its usually within the first two months and we know a lot about if you get covid and develop covid, and a quarter of people that get covid have longterm systems, and that we have a handle on and know covid itself has longterm consequences. And the technology has been around for a long time, and so while theres no specific longterm data on these vaccines per say, the technology they are using has been around for a long time. I want to ask you about vaccine inequity, leading to a prolonged pandemic. We show the numbers on the screen when we first introduced you of what is going on in other parts of the world, and do you think that could lead to a prolonged pandemic . I think it absolutely could. I think so long as you dont have equity and vaccine distribution, whether its here in the United States or overseas, and here its going to take us that much longer to get life back to normal and having to stop to wear mask for our protection, if people deont ge vaccinated, and if you have ongoing transmission, and replication of the virus in places like india and brazil, you will have mutant viruses arise, not to mention the fact that when these countries are suffering the way these countries like india and brazil are suffering, they are not participating in the World Economy or purchasing american goods, and there are many ways this affects us as a country . All right. Thank you for your brilliant analysis and expertise as always. This weekend marks ten years since u. S. Navy s. E. A. L. 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It was ten years ago this weekend that the United States successfully carried out what Many Americans consider the definitive Foreign Policy achievement of a generation, intelligence and Military Operation that hunted down the man responsible for the deadliest Terrorists Attack on american soil, ten years since the u. S. Navy s. E. A. L. Team killed bin laden. A cnn contributor joins me now, and hes also the man behind this book the only plane in the sky. Garrett, you had the rare opportunity to talk to many of the people shown in that famous photograph, and those who were not in it on that historic night when President Obama and a few others watched and listened in the Top Secret Mission that was risky and necessary to bring closure to the american people. A lot of us may think we know how all the of this went down, and i learned so many interesting tidbits reading through this. This was one of the biggest Foreign Policy achievements of the obama administration, and it was perhaps one of the most secret operations in modern american history. Time and time again, as i was talking to the participants in it i was struck by the sheer cloak of secrecy, and even within the white house many senior white house officials had no idea what was going on that day, and i talked to the nsa for the first time for their participation in they said that within the nsa just 50 people knew that weekend about the operation. Its so remarkable. That is one of the tid bits that struck me how many people were kept out of the loop even on the day it was announced how the Secret Service wasnt told to boost up security, and they kind of felt miffed i guess, because they had no what was going on. And then you have the tid bits about how President Obama made subtle changes to his white house dinner. Bill daly turning on the faucet and whispering in his wifes ear, were going to go after Osama Bin Laden. When you learned that, what did you think . It was such an amazing sort of human moment to see someone at this pinnacle of power, you know, basically unable to keep a monumental secret from his wife. And one of the things that so many of the participants that i talked to related was how challenging it was to sort of get up that Sunday Morning and make excuses to their families, to their spouses to why they needed to head into the office at 6 30, 7 00 that Sunday Morning. Mike morel, the Deputy Director of the cia missed his daughters final choral performance and was unable to tell his wife why. And it was quite a problem until later that evening he was able to tell her for the first time. And then hopefully she forgave him once she learned. So, it has been widely reported that the bin laden raid was the only time President Obama watched a Military Operation happen on video in realtime. Why was this operation so important to him . This was just a hugely important operation symbolically for the country and also geopolitically fraught. Its easy to forget now that this involved sending american troops, the navy s. E. A. L. Team 160 kilometers inside pakistan, which is purportedly an ally of the United States invading their sovereignty, invading a compound that was just five miles from their own version of west point, the Pakistani Military academy. And just a few mile as way from one of their Nuclear Storage sites. This was an incredibly risky operation. And the president and all of the Senior Leaders were nervous about the potential fallout. I mean, one of the things that came out in the course of my reporting was how saturday the day before the raid President Obama actually spent trying to line up the support of the kazakhstan government to allow u. S. Supplies to transit kazakhstan to get into afghanistan in the event that pakistan cut off the u. S. Militarys ability to resupply through Pakistani Air space. So many interesting tid bits, information, in this, that we are learning thanks to your great reporting. Garrett graff, i appreciate it, thanks for coming on the show. Well, the English Premier League forced to postpone a match after hundreds of Manchester United fans stormed the stage angry for last months super league debacle. Were going to have that story ahead. And also ahead from Johnny Carson to jimmy kimmel, all your favorite late night legends coming to cnn. The story of late night, we premieres tonight at 9 00 p. M. Eastern. He brought all this energy into the room. This could be a game changer. 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Some protesters fired flares. Others hurled glass bottles. At least two Police Officers were hurt. And the match was postponed. Well, the search for survivors, three people are head tonight, dozens are in the hospital after a boat capsizes off the san diego coast. And also tonight, outraged and in search for answers, protesters demand to see the footage of the Fatal Police Shooting of andrew brown. Plus, the Republican Party riffed and the damage its doing to democracy as Party Leaders continue to spin the big election lie. Hi, good evening. Im pamela brown in washington. You are live in the cnn newsroom tonight. It is the hours Breaking News that we are following on the west coast right now, a tragedy, a deadly accident in the waters off san diego. A boat capsized and broke apart. Cnns Jash Campbell is gathering details for us. Rescue and immigration officials

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