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Crime. And then that is going to be the next sort of level of accountability people will be watching very closely here. But its not just about that. People look at this conviction as the beginning of a long process. They want this to be a long process and they say it is a process that is long overdue. Find the defendant guilty. Reporter with the guilty verdict on all three charges, Derek Chauvin went from former Minneapolis Police officer to convicted murderer, whose new reality is new a prison cell, similar to this one. Separate from the general population at a State Prison about 25 miles outside of minneapolis. While In The City celebrations. We can finally breathe. Reporter from a community that didnt think a conviction was possible. And to a George Floyd Family that knows the Work Isnt finished. We have to stick together and continue to fight, because this world is a place that were supposed to be united and stand together. Reporter a mentality from the streets of minneapolis to the White House. This is the first shot at keel with systemic racism. Reporter and part of that, residents and local leaders hope, can come from the Department Of Justice, now launching a probe into practices at the Minneapolis Police department. Minneapolis mayor Jacob Frey welcomed the investigation as an opportunity to keep working toward deep Change And Accountability in the Minneapolis Police department. While the head of the city council, which has tried multiple times to dismantle the Police Department, hopes the doj uses the full weight of its authority to hold the Minneapolis Police Department Accountable for any and all abuses of power. Meanwhile chauvin, with his bail revoked, awaits sentencing, expected in early june as the judge weighs a number of factors, including aggravating factors, like George Floyd being treated with particularly cruelty, the presence of children when the crimes were committed and separately State Sentencing dpied lines. The guidelines for someone with no criminal history like chauvin are up to 13 years for Seconddegree Marurder and four years for Seconddegree Manslaughter. But they are asking for more which could increase his time behind bars. I can see him smiling down on us and just being very, very proud of us. Its not about black, its not about white, its not about asian. It is only one race and thats the human race. And the world, let it be known that we all can breathe again because justice for george means freedom for all. Reporter now, a persisting Chance Weve heard in these celebrations is one down, three to go. Thats talking about the three other officers charged in this case, all facing charges of Aiding And Abetting Seconddegree Manslaughter and Aiding And Abetting seconddegree murder. All three are out on bail but set to go on trial later this year. Now, after floyds death, the use of force by Minneapolis Police officers actually dropped, but then spiked late last year, according to a cnn analysis. Black people were the subjects of that use of force at a highly disproportionate rate, indicative of the work that people here still feel needs to be done, wolf. A lot of work needs to be done clearly. Omar, thank you very much. Joining us now George Floyds brother, Philonise Floyd along with the attorney ben crump. He also represents the family of shooting victim daunte wright. Philonise, its been 20 hours since this verdict came down. How are you feeling now that youve had some time to process what happened . I feel great. Never in history that i thought it would be something like this to bring people together. My brother, hes a symbol now and i will cement his legacy. We had a historic Day Yesterday when the conviction, because guilty, guilty and guilty of all charges, who would have ever thouGht That, because africanamericans, just people of color, period, we never get justice for anything. And this has been a powerful statement for the world to see because were all united together now. Yeah. Ben, you say the fight for justice doesnt end with this verdict. Now the Justice Department here in washington will actually investigate Minneapolis Police practices. What do you think Theyll Finding . How deep rooted are these problems . Well, wolf, im very happy that the Department Of Justice is having this investigation because as weve often said, the problem is not just one of a training or a policy, its one of implicit bias. Theres a reason why George Floyd was overpoliced when it was a mere Misdemeanor Allegation of him passing a 20 counterfeit bill. They never had to arrest him. But we see this pattern over and over in america, so im thankful to the attorney general, Merrick Garland. We need to get to the crux of the matter so we dont continue to see these hash tags, wolf blitzer, being created quicker than we can keep up. You know, philonise, Derek Chauvin will be sentenced in about eight weeks, in midjune. The judge in this case has broad discretion here. What kind of punishment, what sentence is appropriate from your perspective for chauvin . Totally the max. You know, i think the max because he did the max killing to my brother when he put his knee on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. I love my brother, ill never get him back. My brother is doing his time in the ground now so he need to do his time in the cell. What do you think, ben . Well, i think we are fighting for equal justice and so if the roles were reversed, whatever they would give George Floyd for putting his knee on Derek Chauvins neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds, then they should do the exact same. We cant have two justice systems in america, one for White America and another for black america. We have to have equal justice for every citizen in the united states of america, and our prayer is that this Verdict Yesterday represented a precedent, wolf, where everybody can say with Liberty And Justice for all, and every american can be included in that all. How concerned are you, ben, that chauvin and his attorneys may actually try to appeal this conviction . Well, wolf, i expect every criminal defendant whos found guilty and sentenced to prison is going to appeal. Thats their constitutional rights. But based on Everything We Saw in that video and the evidence, the very compelling evidence that came in during this trial, i see that there is no real grounds for him to have this conviction overturned. You know, philonise, we all read your article in the washington post. You write about being part of a tragic club with other families who lost Loved Ones to police violence. Have you actually spoken with those families since the Verdict Yesterday . Yes, sir. This is a normal thing. We have to stick with Each Other because were all fighting for the same thing. Were all fighting for accountability for officers because of the Police Brutality thats going on to this day. Pamela turner, Breonna Taylors mom, tamika palmer. You have the wright family, which her son passed ten miles away from the courthouse that i was at trying to get justice. Theres so many people just around this nation that were having to speak with. Eric garners mom. Theres so many people who didnt get this chance. This was great for us, but now we have to go ahead and push forward to be able to help them. I know, ben, you got a call from President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris yesterday, but since then have you had any conversations with biden administration officials or any lawmakers for that matter on next steps . Well, we talked with congressman cedric richmond, who is the director of Public Engagement for President Biden, talking about the importance of getting the George Floyd Justice And Policing act passed through the united states senate. And we feel yesterday helped Build Momentum for that. You heard President Biden say this is going to help us do a lot to get meaningful Police Reform to change the Culture And Behavior of policing in america where it can be a more just america where you wont see what happened to Breonna Taylor or you wont see what happened to George Floyd or daunte wright. We can do better. We can have better policing for all citizens, not just some citizens. Let me ask you, philonise about that tweet after the verdict from the Las Vegas raiders that said i can breathe. You thanked the raiders and said its time to come together. Why was it important for you to put that controversy aside . This was all about george. This was all about the world. People who had been out during a pandemic when covid was out protesting and marching and everybody here that they cant breathe for a reason because they wanted these Police Officers to be held accountable. So when i seen that tweet, i stood behind it because he used his platform to help elevate why we couldnt breathe. So hes saying they can breathe now. Best believe i will stand behind him because we need to stick with Each Other and stand by in solidarity with Each Other because we have to stay united to fight for whats right in this world. I know, philonise, this has been an incredible journey for you and your family to be thrust in the national spotlight. You obviously didnt choose this. Now youre at the forefront of this activism, so tell our viewers what comes next for you . Im going to continue to fight for other victims, because its like a neverending cycle. So i started an institution for social change and im turning my pain into purpose. Were going to get out and make sure we help other individuals, counsel other people like daunte wrights family, who im attending the funeral tomorrow. This is something thats historic to us and theres so many individuals that just people of color, period, they have been looking forward to this. That is one of the biggest reasons that im out here doing what i have to do, because people need to know that they are loved and they have people that they can believe in that will help inspire others to be great. Philonise, please give our love to your family. Thank you so much for joining us. Ben crump, as usual, thanks to you as well. We appreciate both of you joining us. Thank you so much. Just ahead, were getting some new details in the fatal Police Shooting of a teenage girl wielding a knife as more Body Camera Video has just been released. Dignity. It demands a rapid covid test, because we all deserve an answer. It demands your heart stays connected to your doctor, so you know its beating as it should. And a rapid test to help evaluate concussion, in Case Something were to happen. At abbott, we fight for these moments, developing lifechanging technologies. Because dignity demands it. We made Usaa Insurance for veterans like martin. When a hailstorm hit, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. Usaa. What youre made of, were made for. Usaa we started with computers. We didnt stop at computers. We didnt stop at storage or cloud. We kept going. Working with our customers to enable the kind of technology that can guide an astronaut back to safety. And help make a hospital come to you, instead of you going to it. So when it comes to your business, you know well stop at nothing. ToniGht The Minneapolis Police department is the focus of a new federal investigation following the guilty verdicts against former Police Officer Derek Chauvin in the murder of George Floyd. Lets get some more on this. And President Bidens new push for congress to pass Police Reform. Our chief White House correspondent, kaitlin collins, is joining us. Kaitlin, the president says this can be a moment, his words, of significant change. Reporter yeah, wolf, he says it can be but whether or not it will be is really still another question because congress has been deeply divided on this issue. They did not pass a single Police Reform bill after George Floyds death, so whether they will now and if they have enough momentum to do so is another question. Thats what President Biden is counting on. Of course this comes as we should note right now what is happening is a new Justice Department investigation into the Police Department where Derek Chauvin worked and of course was later fired. The Justice Department launching a new investigation following Derek Chauvins guilty verdict. Yesterdays verdict in the state Criminal Trial does not address potentially systemic policing issues. Attorney general Merrick Garland announcing a probe into the practices of the Minneapolis Police department that employed and later fired chauvin. I am announcing that the Justice Department has opened a civil investigation. I strongly believe that good officers do not want to work in systems that allow bad practices. Reporter investigators will look into whether the department engages in the use of excessive force, discriminatory conduct or unlawful treatment of those with behavioral issues. The Justice Department will issue a public report if the investigation finds that the Police Department violated the law. Building trust between Community And Law enforcement will take time and effort by all of us. Reporter but federal investigations can take months or even years, and the White House wants congress to step in now. The president and i will continue to urge the senate to pass this legislation. This shouldnt take a whole year to get this done. Reporter the Police Reform bill, named after George Floyd, passed the house in march but faces an Uphill Battle in the senate. We will not rest until the senate passes strong legislation to end the systemic bias in Law Enforcement. Reporter the Floyd Bill would woman chokeholds, creating national police misconduct registry, mandate the use of deadly force as a last Resort And End qualified immunity. Its that last part that has divided lawmakers. The republicans arguing Police Officers shouldnt be stripped of the shield that can protect them from lawsuits. I dont think, though, that the answer is to get rid of categorical way to get rid of sovereign immunity for our Police Officers. I think their job is hard enough. Reporter another heated confrontation on capitol hill. Representative Val Demings shouting down congressman Jim Jordan after she criticized a republican amendment for a Covid19 Hate crimes bill. You know, its interesting to see my colleagues on the other side of the Aisle Support the police when it is politically convenient to do so. Reporter the amendment would prevent efforts to defund the police, which demings called irrelevant since the bill doesnt propose that. Law enforcement officers risk their lives every day. They deserve better, and the american people deserve i have the floor, mr. Jordan. What, did i strike a nerve . Law enforcement officers deserve better than to be utilized as pawns. Reporter wolf, we should note toniGht That President Biden does have a new official in a top spot at the Justice Department. Thats because the senate has narrowly confirmed Va Nita Gupta to be the new associate attorney general. That puts her in the number three spot in the Justice Department. She will be overseeing the civil Rights Division and of course that is a division that President Biden has said will be key to his role in combatting what he says is systemic racism in policing. Kaitlin, thank you very much. Kaitlin collins at the White House. Lets discuss all of this and more with global human Rights Leader Martin Luther King iii and Derrick Johnson, the President And Ceo of the naacp. Gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us. Martin, the murder of Emmitt Till was a pivotal Turning Point for civil rights in your fathers era. Do you view Yesterdays Verdict potentially as a pivotal Turning Point in this era . Well, it certainly can be a pivotal Turning Point. We all felt relief just as soon as the verdict came in. In Fact Something very interesting happened in my home. I was prepared to do an interview and my wife was on another floor and as the first count was read down as guilty, the doors began to shake in our home. Thats never happened. I assumed that was my Father And Mother saying this is going in the right direction. But the higher point that i want to make in relationship to we must wait and evaluate to some degree and continue to be vigilant. When you hear that the senate is concerned and does not have the votes to even pass the George Floyd bill, we should all be very concerned because thats a very good second step. The first step was this conviction. Then also there are three other officers who have to be tried and hopefully convicted as well as the number of other shootings that we see taking place. Tragically yesterday a young lady, 15 or 16 years old in columbus, ohio. So this may be a Turning Point, but i dont think we know that yet. Yeah, were going to have much more on that 16yearold girl in columbus who was shot as she was holding a knife, but well get much more on that coming up. You know, derrick, we saw a rare victory yesterday. In this particular case a white Police Officer actually held accountable for killing an unarmed black man. What was the significance of that moment for you personally and for the broader movement . Wolf, i was in Minneapolis On Sunday and monday and tuesday. Thats the first time in the history of that state that a white Police Officer has been held accountable for killing a black citizen. But more importantly, i think directionally, we can go in the right direction now. I do believe that we may see the possibility of something coming out of the senate. I do know that senator scott, Senator Booker along with Congresswoman Bass have been working really hard to find a middle place. It is so important to find a middle place. Think about the heroic effort that was just done by the Minneapolis Police department, led by the Police Chief, to testify during this case. That is bringing down the blue wall of silence. Good Police Officers, they want to be able to be proud about their professions and not allow bad apples like Derek Chauvin to continue to bring the profession down. Heres an individual who has had multiple infractions with their Police Department, but because of the states arbitrations law, even if he would have been found guilty and despite the fact that he was fired by the Police Chief, the arbitrator could have reinstated him in his position or he could have gone to another department. We have to stop bad apples from being able to roam within our Law Enforcement agencies and restore trust, build trust, and ensure safe communities. We are, martin, witnessing a Renewed Push for Police Reform, for racial justice. But at least among lawmakers in washington, where i am, there are some republicans that have very little appetite for all of this. Do you believe real transformative change can happen if this issue is perceived to be along Party Lines . I can only hope. I would not like to characterize it in a negative way by saying no. The reality is we should be in a whole different era. I think about the fact that if my father were here, my mother were arrive. But my father 53 years ago was dealing with the same issues that we are dealing with today. That as Attorney Crump says, we have two justice systems, one for blacks, one for whites. But its not just the system of justice that has to be reformed, its almost like dad used to talk about a revolution of values so that we embrace new values of peace, Justice And Equity to bring about change in this nation that we all call home and where we all must live. So im hopeful. I feel that its unfortunate that there may be very few republicans, but as Derrick Johnson just stated, there is real dialogue going on among a bipartisan group of legislators in the senate as well as with Congresswoman Bass. So i feel hopeful, but i wish that they would even go further. This will just be a first step, by the way. There are going to have to be many more things that are done to transform policing in terms of identifying officers who live where they work so that they havent they are stakeholders in the community. You know, such as civilian review boards, which we do have some, but we need a lot more. Such as psychological evaluations that really evaluate who we are hiring as police. This is really a marathon, not a sprint. So what do you think, derrick, do you think senator scott, the republican, Senator Booker, the democrat, Congresswoman Bass, they can all work together and get this legislation passed not only in the house but in the senate as well . I think those members of congress, citizens of this nation, not political operatives, care enough about our communities, care enough about our democracies to put forth a strong effort to bring this question to the center. You talk to Police Officers who are good Police Officers, they also want a heightened level of accountability. Many of them recognize that we have far too many bad apples within agencies and the respect of our Police Officers and agencies becomes so critical for their ability to go home safely. We are in our selma, alabama, moment. Selma, alabama, in 64 Set The Tone for the passage of the voting Rights Act in 65. This moment creates an opportunity to Set The Tone for true reform so that all citizens can have an opportunity to feel safe and build trust. See if that happens. Derrick johnson, Martin Luther King iii, guys, thank you very, very much. These are historic times we are watching unfold here in the united states. Coming up, the mayor of columbus, ohio, is asking why a 16yearold girl died at the hands of police. Were following the investigation and well show you new video just released. [narrator] if youre thinking about going to school online, southern new Hampshire University is where you belong. Weve been online for more than 25 years and have helped thousands of students reach their goals. As a nonprofit university, we believe access to high Quality Education should be available to everyone. Thats why we offer some of the lowest Tuition Rates in the nation, and havent raised tuition in nearly a decade. So no matter where you want to go, snhu can help you get there. Visit snhu. Edu today. Bipolar depression. Its a dark, lonely place. This is art inspired by real stories of people living with Bipolar Depression. Emptiness. A hopeless struggle. The lows of Bipolar Depression can disrupt your life and be hard to manage. Latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. 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Authorities in columbus, ohio, released additional Body Camera Footage and 911 calls in connection with the death of a teenage girl. Cnn national correspondent Athena Jones has a report. A warning, some of the video is disturbing. Reporter tonight new videos released in the case of mackhi br bryant. A teenager who was shot after police say she tried to stab people with a knife. Upon receiving a chaotic 911 call, officers were dispatched to the scene. They dont know the identity of the caller. Officer Nicholas Reardon approached a group of individuals in the driveway outside the home. Whats going on . Whats going on . Hey, hey, hey get ocdown, get down, get down, get down. Reporter the video shows him pushing one person down to the ground and lunging at another person in pink who has a knife in her hand. Bryant was a Foster Child in the countys care. She came after me. Reporter tonight newly released Body Cam videos from two additional officers show the moments after the shooting as well. Officers can be seen performing lifesaving measures on bryant and sealing off the scene. Officer reardon, who police identified as firing the fatal shots, has been a member of the columbus Police Department since 2019. Police say he is on paid administrative leave while an independent investigation takes place. The columbus mayor said the killing was a failure of the community. The fact that we had a 16yearold girl armed and involved with physical violence with other folks in that community, Thats Something for us to look in the mirror and to say what are we doing or not doing . Find the defendant guilty. Reporter the shooting happened about 30 minutes before the guilty verdict was delivered for the murder of George Floyd at a time when police use of force around the nation and in columbus specifically is under renewed scrutiny. Well be sharing more in the hours, days, weeks ahead that doesnt compromise the investigation because its critically important for us, for the public to have the information that we have so we can be as transparent as possible. Reporter now, cnn has reached out to Officer Reardon and the Police Union for comment but has not heard back. One thing thats important to note, both the mayor and interim Police Chief are stressing transparency. The Police Department worked swiftly to release the first Body Camera Footage last night. Chief Michael Woods saying his goal is to share as much information as possible with the public as quickly as possible. This was especially important last night because videos taken Bye Bystanders had begun circulating on Social Media sparking outrage. Thank you, athena. Lets talk more about this case with retired major neil franklin, a veteran of the Maryland State and baltimore Police Departments. Thanks so much for joining us. The columbus mayor, you heard him, saying this officer was protecting the other young girl involved in this incident. What did this officer have to weigh in these kinds of circumstances . Yes, wolf. First of all, my heart goes out to ma kkhias family, Let Me Jt Say that. Let me first say this was not a Derek Chauvin moment, situation. Kneeling on Someones Neck for nine minutes is plenty of time to decide what to do, what not to do. This is a Splitsecond Situation where the officer hopped out of his patrol car, saw someone with a knife. The video, not the investigation which is being conducted. What we saw was this young lady, makhia attacking Somebody Else who went to the grounds. She turned her attention to the lady in Pink Backing her up against the car where she had nowhere to go. Makhia, knife in hand, the officer had to make a splitsecond decision. Im not saying whether its right or whatever the investigation will bring that out, im just explaining to you what an officer has to do and what they have to consider in the split second. He had to prevent someone from using deadly force against someone else. Thats what were supposed to do, were supposed to protect our citizens and thats a decision he apparently made. What do you say, major, to those who wonder why the Police Officer didnt use a taser. People who question whether this was proportional against a teen with a knife. Is there anything else that Police Officer could have done to protect that other girl in pink . Well, first of all, from what im hearing, the officer may have had a taser. I dont know that for sure. So i guess well learn that. But one thing that that officer had to do was make a decision. He couldnt i know if im im trying to put myself in that situation now and i see Someones Hand raised, someone backed up against a car, knife in hand, whats my best option for stopping that deadly force against that person. It may as well it may be that firearm. This is how were trained. You go for what you believe will stop the threat as soon as possible. I cant say what was in his mind. That will come out during the investigation. But its a very difficult decision to make for a Police Officer, wolf. It certainly is. Major neil franklin, thank you so much for that analysis. Just ahead, the u. S. Crosses another milestone in the covid19 vaccinations. Cal our confident forever plan is possible with a cfp® professional. A cfp® professional can help you build a complete financial plan. Visit letsmakeaplan. Org to find your cfp® professional. Wayfairs biggest sale of the year is. Way day for two days only, v April 28th 29th,org to find your cfp® professional. 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Collins, to ensure americans are willing to get these shots as they become available . Well, it is a milestone now that weve got 200 Million doses in arms and more than half of americans have had at least one dose and more than a third of them are fully immunized having had both doses. But the hard part lies ahead. Theres 130 Million americans that havent started yet. A lot of the polls would say a lot of those folks still arent sure if they want to take part in this amazing opportunity to put this virus behind us so we have to really figure out how to get the message out there. Those who are still undecided, get the information they need to see why this is really something they would want to do. For me as a physician, a scientist, director of nih, its a very compelling case but not everybody has bought into it. You and i have known Each Other quite a while and i know youve been outspoken about your faith in God And Youve written about it. You say faith in science are complements, not rivals. As it comes to vaccine hesitancy, as its called, what would you say to encourage other people of faith to trust this miraculous vaccine . Well, thats a good question because it does sound as if particularly white evangelicals are particularly skeptical about this vaccine for various reasons. Some of them feel like this was rushed, but you know some people have had this vaccine in their system now for nine months so were getting a lot of information here and it looks really safe. Some people feel like, okay, why should i trust science, does that mean im not trusting god . I think god works through science in cases like this and we ouGht To celebrate that and give thanks to Gods Grace that this kind of thing is possible. Some have heard various Conspiracy Theories about how this might be thats bad for them or, good heavens, even the mark of the beast, revelation 13 is being brought up in a way that really doesnt fit the situation. But all of that is swirling around there and its mixed up im afraid with some politics. You know what i would say, wolf, is if youre in a circumstance right now listening to this and youre still resistant to this because youve heard these things and youre skeptical, maybe try to hit the Reset Button on everything youve heard before and say, okay, lets really look at the evidence. Here we are in april. Theres a lot of experience now. If youre a white evangelical, look at the national association of evangelicals. Theyre strongly promoting the idea that people of faith should take this vaccine for themselves, for their communities. Its like love your neighbor because if we are going to get past this terrible pandemic, its going to take most of us being immunized. Otherwise the virus can just keep going on and on. Is that really what were called to do as people of faith . I dont think so. But again, hit the Reset Button, look at the evidence. Go to a website called getvaccinesanswers. Org if youre interested in something thats not part of the government. In case you dont trust old white guys working for the government like me, theres lots of other information out there that can reassure you. Its not like its hidden to find. Its there, so dont trust the Social Media, look at the reliable sites. Youll be convinced, i think, if you pay attention to the facts that this is something that you want for yourself. Its safe, its incredibly effective. Its one of the most amazing stories in science in decades. Youre absolutely right, dr. Collins. Were grateful to you, grateful to everyone at nih for what youre doing. Thanks for joining us. Glad to be with you, wolf, any time. Coming up, ill speak with cnns Don Lemon about the conviction of Derek Chauvin and how far the country has come since the killing of George Floyd. Well be right back. When a Truck Hit my car, the Insurance Company Wasnt fair. I dididt t kn Whahatmy C caswa, so i called the Barnes Firm. Im rich barnes. 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You told me, don, we went back and looked at that interview and watching the p previous administration, does it feel like we have come a long way since then . I cant believe it almost been a year since we did that and we sat in these very chairs and on this very channel doing that and i just think of the difference, what a difference a year makes when you have an administration now whos calling the family of George Floyds and saying we are going to do everything we can to make situation like this not ever happen again and you had an administration who was, you know, gassing protesters just for a photoop and denying systematic racism in our society. It puts the emphasis on how important it is to get out and vote and be active and aware. I hope that we continue to move forward with that, that people stay agctive and aware. You have been joining me since George Floyd was killed a year ago, as you look back on everything that happens, what stands out the most to you . Well, i think yesterday stands out because there was justice for the floyds family. There is justice for america. What stands out the most, i am grateful of the platform and the privilege i have to speak directly to the american people. I hope that i have been as good of a facilitator in those conversations as you have been here on cnn. It has opened up an awareness in this country and given us room to have these conversations. I was inspired to write the book because of what happened in the summer of 2020 and i hope that other people are inspired to do better and be able to at least try to help the issue of racism in this country. I dont think well ever fix it. Thats what stands out. I think we are in a better place now than a year ago. I dont think thats a bad thing. Thats not too much to ask. Thats pretty good. We still have a lot of work to do. Don, thank you very much. Don will be back later tonight on Cnn Tonight at 10 00 p. M. Eastern. Well have more news later. A b. 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