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Chaplains office are here at the scene and at the Family Unification Center assisting with Family Member whos have shown up to this area. Right now i want to make everybody know that people here at the scene are still being interviewed by detectives, so they might not have an opportunity to contact their family. But as soon as they are available to, they will. For any and all information about this situation, were asking that the primary information comes from the annapolis metropolitan Police Department Public Affairs office. We will be your source for the most accurate and uptodate information. You can reach us at impd. Publicaffairsoffice correction. Impd. Publicaffairs indy. Gov for Information Anybody who was here and left the scene to seek medical treatment or just for safety, we ask that you contact either 626tips and give us your information and anything that you ma i know or contact our Homicide Office at 3173273475. Its important to know that emotions are very high here. There are a lot of people, not just officers but Family Members who are still arriving and still learning about this incident. This occurred after many went to bed, and some are just now waking up to this. We ask for your continued support for everyone here involved. We understand that there are a lot of moving parts, and we ask for your patience as we gather the most Accurate Information and so that that information comes to you, and you can relay it accurately to everybody else. We dont want to give out information that may hurt somebody. Genae, can you put this moment in perspective . This is a horrific situation. Eight people dead. Can you just its a tough this is heartbreaking. It is very heartbreaking. And, you know, indianapolis metropolitan Police Department, the officers responded. They came in. They went in, and they did their job. And a lot of them are trying to face this because this is a sight that no one should ever have to see. But we as indianapolis members need to come together. We need to support each other and understand that there are going to be people out there that are going to be emotionally upset, and we need to support them regardless of any circumstance. This is a tragedy. But yet, through it all, we will come through it, you know, with flying colors. Genae, can you describe the gun . Do you have any information . I do not have that information right now. Was the shooter an employee, genae . At this time, its still early to tell. Theyre still attempting to identify different people, and we need to make proper notification at this time. Have any Law Enforcement officers been injured . No, they have not. When you talk about how many people were injured at different hospitals, can you give us a ballpark at this time . Dozens . Hundreds . You know, we know for sure that we had four people transported by ambulance, one in Critical Condition with injuries consistent with gunshot wounds. We had three others that were transported with various other injuries. And then we had two other people that were here at the scene treated by medical staff and then released. Weve had multiple other walkins to different local hospitals around this area. We have to understand that, you know, we are in marion county, but we are very near to two other counties, and some of them are going to other counties for medical treatment. So this is where we continue to reach out and find out you know, ask for them to call us, let us know what they saw, what they heard. Its very important that we Work Together on this. Genae, can you confirm hundreds of people work at that facility. Will it remain open in should people report to work . What should people do who are waking up this morning seeing all of these images and wondering what do i do . I think the best thing for them to do is contact their supervisor or the Human Resources office. This building is going to be closed for a while due to this investigation. This is going to go long into the morning. There are a lot of components that detectives need to gather and get the evidence picked up. Is the shooter the ninth or the eighth . Go ahead. Im sorry. Can you talk about the bravery of the officers and the First Responders and those that, as the shooting was going on, were helping each other and making sure that people were safe . Can you give us any insight into that because my understanding is officers when they arrived on the scene obviously did their jobs, but also there were Good Samaritans who also helped one another to demomake sure peoplee safe. I dont have a lot of independent stories youre looking for. Like i said, detectives are still talking with people. We dont have that information. The officers came in, and without second thought, they went in to try to help people. Genae, are the eight dead is the gunman part of that number of eight . No. He would be the ninth. He would be the ninth, okay. Do we know anything about the person who was found dead, maam . My understanding is that he was quickly found by a Metro Police Officer i believe 17 minutes after the initial shots. Can you tell us anything about that at all . I know its an investigation. We dont want to get in the way of an Ongoing Investigation but. Theres a lot of things were trying to gather also, but right now its too early to give out any preliminary information on that. Were still trying to ascertain the exact reason and, you know, cause for this incident. Can you talk about whether good the gunman go in and just start firing, or were there any courtney, thats something that were still trying to figure out, exactly how, why, what went on, and thats going to be this is going to be an investigation that goes on throughout the day. Were going to brief again. This will be our last brief from here at the scene, but we will have a Press Conference later on this morning, and we will notify you of the exact time and location. One more question. [ inaudible ] what do you tell the public who are waking up this morning and watch something on television. What do you tell them, what the heck is going on . You know, thats a great question. You know, you have to look at your own life and say, you know, look at the positive things in your own world. And you have to keep going, and youve got to look for a way to support each other, whether its your neighbor, the guy down the street, your Family Member. Thats where you have to start at, and you just keep supporting each other, and it will always get better. Thank you. Appreciate it. Indianapolis Police Department there briefing reporters on what we know. And just a recap. This was at a Fedex Facility. Eight people shot dead, and the shooter himself found dead as well. So thats nine dead total. And difficult to ascertain just how many people were wounded in this incident because the police were saying multiple people were taken to multiple hospitals or took themselves to hospitals, and at least a couple of people were treated at the scene and released. Meanwhile, Family Members are being asked to go to a nearby holiday inn for more information and Family Assistance and the like. Just a terrible incident at this Fedex Facility in indianapolis. The indiana congressman andre carson, he represents the seventh district of indiana, including indianapolis. He tweeted a little bit earlier, and he said this. Im heartbroken by the Mass Shooting at the Fed Fex Facilit here in indianapolis and praying for all affected by this tragedy. Im communicating with local authorities to get all details of the attack, and my office stands ready to help everyone affected any way we can. Again, eight people dead. The shooter also dead. Multiple people have been wounded at this shooting that has taken place at a Fedex Facility in indianapolis. And we will keep you informed of more developments as they come to hand. Another terrible shooting in america. Meanwhile, this was the scene outside the Brooklyn Center Police Department in minnesota a few hours ago where hundreds of protesters gathered for a fifth straight night. They want justice for daunte wright, the 20yearold killed during a traffic stop on sunday. Many demonstrators defying, as they have in other nights, a nighttime curfew. The former officer charged in wrights death made a brief Court Appearance on thursday via zoom. Shes been released on bail. She is charged with seconddegree manslaughter. Meanwhile in nearby minneapolis, Law Enforcement preparing for potential unrest once the verdict comes down in the murder trial of former Police Officer Derek Chauvin. Closing arguments are going to begin on monday. Cnns omar jimenez with the latest from the courtroom. Your honor, the state of minnesota rests. Mr. Nelson, anything further . No, your honor. Reporter the stage is now set for the Long Awaited Closing Arguments in the time of Derek Chauvin and the longer awaited jury deliberations. Notably, jurors didnt ever hear testimony from Derek Chauvin, who until thursday was only heard through his comments caught on body camera video presented. Had to hold the guy down. He was he was going crazy. Wouldnt go in the back of the squad. Reporter he then confirmed jurors wouldnt hear testimony from him in this trial. I will invoke my fifth amendment privilege today. Reporter outside of chauvins decision, a lot of courts centered on a familiar face, the return of pull Monday Ollist dr. Martin tobin, who prosecutors used as a rebuttal witness to refute that Carbon Monoxide could have played a part in George Floyds death. Does that tell us anything whatsoever about what the Carbon Monoxide content could have been at a maximum . Yes, it does. If the heem globen is saturated at 98 , it tells you all there was for anything else is 2 . So the maximum amount of Carbon Monoxide would be 2 . Reporter tobin was among more than 40 witnesses called in this trial, from those steps away from george floyd on may 25th, 2020 do you need a minute . I feel helpless. Reporter to Law Enforcement experts on the use of force that day. Was this a trained minneapolis Police Department defensive Tactics Technique . It is not. I felt that Derek Chauvin was justified, was acting with objective reasonableness. Reporter and doctors on the cause of death. Theres no evidence to suggest he would have died that night except for the interactions with Law Enforcement. Reporter now a process almost a year in the making is just days away as a dozen jurors have a weekend to prepare for what will be one of the most significant decisions in minneapolis history. If i were you, i would plan for long and hope for short. Reporter were now in the final preparation stages both from a Court Standpoint but also from a Community Standpoint as additional fortifications have started to go up. Thursday additional razor wire was put up outside all five of the Minneapolis Police precincts out of an abundance of caution. As we get ever closer to the moment of a verdict in a very tense minneapolis area. Omar jimenez, cnn, minneapolis. Meanwhile, Graphic Body Camera Footage was released on thursday by Chicago Police showing the moments before and after an officer shot and killed 13yearold adam toledo. It happened last month. Now, cnns randi kaye with the latest on the investigation. But a warning, the video is obviously disturbing and difficult to watch. Reporter its hard to watch. The final moments of a 13yearold boys life. This chicago Police Officers body cam appears to show the teenage boy with what police say is a gun in his right hand, turning toward the officer. In less than a second, hes fatally shot. A single bullet to the chest from the officers gun. It happened on march 29th. Chicago Police Say Officers were responding to a shots fired call on the citys west side when they say they came upon 13yearold adam ktoledo and a 21yearold man walking down an alley. The officers Body Cam Footage shows toledo fleeing and the officer pursuing the teenager on foot, yelling at him to stop. Stop. Stop right now. Hey, show me your p[ bleep ] hands. Reporter what happened next is under investigation. But police say the Body Cam Footage shows toledo with a gun in his right hand as the officer once again yells for him to stop. As the boy turns around, the officer opens fire. Ive seen no evidence whatsoever that adam toledo shot at the police. Reporter police later tweeted out this picture of a gun they say was recovered from the scene, and prosecutors say toledos right hand tested positive for gunshot residue. But the familys attorney insisting the boy was not holding a gun when he was shot. Adam, during his last second of life, did not have a gun in his hand. The officer screamed at him, show me your hands. Adam complied, turned around. His hands were empty when he was shot in the chest at the hands of the officer. Reporter she later suggested adam toledo may have had a gun at some point but tossed it. On the video, the unnamed officer who shot the boy immediately calls for an ambulance and tries to render aid. Police say 21yearold ruben roman was with the teenager and is in custody. The charges against him include felony reckless discharge of a firearm and felony endangerment of a child. Adam toledos family first saw the Body Cam Video of the shooting on tuesday. The boys Mother Sobbing as she questioned why anyone would kill her baby. Chicago mayor Lori Lightfoot also saw the video before it was released. It was excruciating watching the Body Cam Footage, which shows young adam after hes shot. Its extremely difficult. Reporter the boys family initially asked that the video not be made public right away, but later attorneys for the family and the chicago Mayors Office agreed to release the video along with a slowed down version of it. Hes running through an alley. The raw Video Footage is extraordinarily jumpy. Its really hard to see anything. Providing kind of a slowed down, framebyframe opportunity to see what happened is going to be helpful to members of the public. Reporter adam toledos mother describes her son as happy, saying he loved animals, building legos, and playing with hot wheels. Now so many questions about how he ended up dead in a chicago alley at the hands of police. Randi kaye, cnn, palm beach county, florida. 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I got these three suitcases for less than 40. And shipping is always free. Go to dealdash. Com today and see how much you can save. There are auctions going on right now, so what are you waiting for . Continuing to follow that Breaking News out of indianapolis, indiana, where police say at least eight people are dead in a shooting at a Fedex Facility. A number of other people were taken to hospitals. A Police Spokesman says the gunman is dead, apparently selfinflicted gunshot wound, and there is no active threat to the community at the moment. Earlier a fedex worker described what he heard while inside that facility as he and a friend were on a break. Have a listen. Wed sat down in the back of like this metal smoke shack kind of deal. We literally, i hoped my chips, got my sandwich b to take a bite. He was about to take a bite out of his sandwich, and we heard two Loud Metal Clangs at first because they didnt sound like gunshots at first because, again, there was a loud clang after the first two. And then my buddy, levi, stood up as he was like kind of squatting at the bench and then looked over and out into the parking lot. Didnt see anything yet. Then we heard three more shots, and then My Buddy Levi saw someone running out of the building. And then more shots went off. Somebody went behind their car to the trunk and got another and got another gun, and then i saw one body on the floor. Extraordinary. Okay. Turning now to a clear sign from joe biden that the biggest threat to the u. S. Lies in cyberspace and not the mountains of afghanistan. The president carving out a Foreign Policy marked by new sanctions on russia aimed at protecting against hackers and election interference. Now, this comes as the top u. S. Diplomat, Antony Blinken, Made A Surprise visit to afghanistan one day after the president announced he would pull u. S. Troops from the country starting may 1st, and they would be out by september. Mr. Biden meanwhile will welcome japans Prime Minister to the white house later today, a signal to china that the two countries are united in their opposition to recent aggression against taiwan. And u. S. Climate envoy john kerry will Wrap Up Meetings in shanghai on friday, testing chinas willingness to cooperate on environmental issues. But those new u. S. Sanctions on russia, theyre sending a clear message to the kremlin. Heres cnn White House Correspondent kaitlan collins. Reporter President Biden is vowing to hold russia accountable after four years of slaps on the wrist by President Trump. I was clear with President Putin. If roussia fns to interfere wit our democracy, im prepared to actions to respond. Reporter the president Sanctioning Russia for conducting a major Hacking Operation against the u. S. And attempting to influence the president ial election. My bottom line is this. Where theres an interest in the United States to work with russia, we should, and we will. Where russia seeks to violate the interests of the United States, we will respond. Reporter in total, the u. S. Sanctioned 32 russian entities and individuals, expelled ten russian diplomats, and officially blamed russia for the Solarwinds Cyberattack On Federal Agencies in the nations biggest companies. The sanctions also revealed for the first time that a russian agent who received internal polling data from the Trump Campaign passed it along to Russian Intelligence Services in 2016. Konstantin kilimnik was sanctioned today for attempting to help influence the 2020 election on russias behalf. Biden isnt punishing russia for allegedly putting bounties on u. S. Soldiers after officials said they only have low to moderate confidence in the intelligence. Its challenging to gather this intelligence and this data. This information really puts the burden on russia. Reporter on the campaign trail, biden criticized former President Trump for not taking action on those same alleged bounties. Hes putins puppy. He still refuses to even say anything to putin about the bounty on the Heads Of American soldiers. Reporter National Security adviser Jake Sullivan said President Biden wanted to take action against russia without escalating tensions. His goal is to provide a significant and credible response but not to escalate the situation. He believes that the United States and russia can have a stable and predictable relationship. Reporter the kremlin has yet to respond to bidens invitation for a facetoface meeting. The invitation remains open, and we believe it would be a good step forward. Reporter u. S. Officials are also keeping an eye on a massive buildup of Russian Military on the Ukraine Border near the Crimean Peninsula that russia illegally invaded in 2014. I strongly urged him to refrain from any military action. Now is the time to deescalate. Reporter and in those remarks tonight, you saw President Biden reiterate that invitation for President Putin to meet him in europe for a summit this summer. Of course that is an invitation that the kremlin has not responded to yet, and they also havent responded to the sanctions, which the u. S. Says they are waiting to see what they will do in retaliation. Kaitlan collins, cnn, the white house. Lets get some reaction to all of this from london. Cnns International Diplomat editor nick robinson. Its a pretty tough line by President Biden on russia. What is your analysis of the moves and are bidens concerns shared there in the uk and europe . Reporter theyre definitely shared, and certainly bidens put in a lot of diplomatic effort. And this has been his sort of Leadership Strategy all along with bringing allies into a position of support. You know, he sent his Secretary Of State here to europe now twice, who has had extensive meetings with eu officials and leaders, Foreign Ministers at least from nato countries. So theres been a real effort from biden to get alignment from european allies and partners, and thats been achieved here. Just yesterday, the British Foreign office called in the Russian Ambassador to go through the same points that President Biden had made about cyber hacking, about election interference, issues that are as keenly felt here in the uk as they are in the u. S. , that russia is a potential and real threat. The Military Escalation along the border with ukraine all part of that. So theres sort of lockstep support, but bidens clearly leading the way. The european nations, uk dont have the same clout clearly in putting sanctions on russia as President Biden does. However, the European Union does have a lot of sanctions on russia. How is this going to play out . Look, bidens built in this diplomatic offramp by saying lets get together. Its important we talk to face to face. Thats the only way we can move Forward Together effectively. He says that President Putin has agreed to that idea, that they should meet. That the only way to have an effective relationship is to communicate directly. That would certainly appeal to President Putin. But theres no love lost between the men. I mean the kremlin and putin have essentially played the image of biden as old and feeble, wished him good health, an indication that they are not really sure hell be around for a long time as president. And putin, as we know, is effectively now president until 2036, so he can slowroll his reaction, and he can play the long game here. Yeah, absolutely. Good point. Good to see you, nic. Nic robertson in london. Well take a quick break. When we come back, a serious situation in europe with coronavirus deaths rising in many countries. Well go live to paris for an update. As a result of the research that ive started to do on ancestry. Having ancestry to fill in the gaps with documents, with photographs, connecting in real time means that were having conversations that are richer. I have now a closer relationship with my grandfather. I cant think of a better gift to give to my daughter and the generations that come after her. Bring your Family History to life like never before. Get started for free at ancestry. Com all right. I want to update you now on our Breaking News. Police say at least eight people have been killed in a shooting at a Fedex Facility in indianapolis, indiana. An unknown number of wounded have been taken to hospitals. A Police Spokesperson telling us that the gunman is dead as well, apparently taking his own life. At the moment, no active threat to the community. Fedex says it is aware of the situation and is cooperating with investigators. Preliminary information at this time is that the alleged shooter has taken his own life here at the scene. After a preliminary search of the grounds, inside and out, we have located eight people at the scene with injuries consistent to gunshot wounds. Those eight were pronounced deceased here at the scene. We have been made aware of multiple other people with injuries who have been transported to local hospitals or who have transported themselves to local hospitals. And as you just heard there, at least eight people dead. A number of others wounded at that shooting at a Fedex Facility in indianapolis, indiana. Yet another Mass Shooting in the United States. We will bring you more information as we get it here at cnn. Now, the World Health Organization says europe has now passed 1 million covid deaths, and Officials Say the situation remains serious despite progress on the vaccine front. Heres how things look across the continent. Have a look at the map there. You can see deaths spiking in countries like ireland, france, poland, also in norway. France, in fact, has now exceeded 100,000 covid fatalities on its own. Paris correspondent melissa bell joining us now with more. You know, its a big milestone. 1 million covid deaths. The w. H. O. Also talking of what they describe as intensive Care Capacity having been exceeded from all parts of the region, meaning europe. How dire is the situation . Reporter well, pretty bad. We simply havent seen figures like the ones we now have in terms of the number of covid19 patients in icu, michael, in a year. The peak that we saw when france first entered its Lockdown In March Of Last Year was just over 7,000. Were now at more than 5,900. Again, a figure that we hadnt seen in a year. And so that is once again a sign of a Health Care System that is under tremendous strain. And of course the peak is not yet reached. Thats what french authorities tell us. The lockdown, partial lockdown that was extended to the whole of france recently takes some time to have that impact on the number of new cases, which then in turn within several weeks has an impact on icu entries, and we are not there yet. Thats what authorities here have been extremely worried about. The big difference and this is what the government is at pains to point out is that now more and more people are getting vaccinated. The french Prime Minister has tweeted that 12 million french people have been Vaccinate Theed at least partially. For the time being, a Health Care System still under strain. The number of new daily infections still at an average of 30,000 to 40,000 per day, michael, which is pretty substantial. Some concern, of course, that that peak not having been reached, the Health Care System will remain under strain over the coming days and into next week. Now, there is some light at the end of the tunnel. Of course, thanks to that vaccination strategy, says the french government, they are able to look ahead to what steps progress live theyre going to be able to take in terms of reopening the economy. Were now in the third partial lockdown since this all began here in france with a battered economy desperate to reopen its doors. We havent had restaurants and terraces open now since the end of october, michael. What the government hopes is by the middle of may, they will be once again able to open as perhaps will museums. Yeah. Very worrying but hopefully the vaccines will continue to roll out. Paris correspondent melissa bell for us. Thanks, melissa. Were going to talk a quick break. Well be right back. When a truck hit my car, the Insurance Company wasnt fair. I didnt know what my case was worth. So i called the barnes firm. I was hit by a car and needed help. I called the barnes firm, that was the best call i couldve made. Im rich barnes. Its hard for people to know how much their Accident Case is worth. Let our Injury Attorneys help you get the best result possible. The Barnes Firm Injury Attorneys call one eight hundred, Eight Million and another update now on the breaking story out of the United States where police say at least eight people have been killed in a Mass Shooting at a Fedex Facility in indianapolis, indiana. Other people are being taken to the hospitalm. Police dont know exactly how many were wounded. They say some people selfdrove to hospitals. Others went by emergency service, and some others were actually treated at the scene and were allowed to leave. The spokesperson said that the gunman is dead, apparently a selfinflicted gunshot wound. And just in the last few minutes, fedex has tweeted out among other things saying, safety is our top priority. Our thoughts are with all those who are affected. Were working to gather more information and cooperating with the authorities. And do stay with us here on cnn for more coverage of this breaking story as information comes to hand. Now, brazil just cant seem to get its Coronavirus Outbreak under control, and more cases will undoubtedly mean more lives lost. Msf, also known as doctors without borders, now says the brazilian governments response or lack thereof is killing people by the thousands. Dr. Miguel is with us from sao paulo in brazil. Hes a professor of neurobiology at duke university. Doctor, good to see you again. Lets start with this. Initially it was believed babies and Young Children werent severely impacted by covid, but official numbers in brazil say that between February Of 2020 and march of 2021, covid killed at least 850 of brazils children up to the age of 9 and 500 babies. And theres been other research that says it could be twice that. What do these numbers suggest to you . Well, this has been reported down here in brazil, and its very scary to see the numbers because these are, you know, ten times more than the United States and about 20 times more than uk. And we are seeing since the beginning of the year that the neonato icus are getting crowded in several parts of brazil. So this correspondents to the reality of what is going on down here, where you see more pregnant women being infected and more babies being born already infected by the coronavirus. Worrying numbers. I mean also for the First Time Since the start of the pandemic, the majority of Covid Patients in icus across brazil are younger than 40 years old. Thats according to a new report by the Brazilian Association of intensive medicine and also the Mortality Rate among patients aged 18 to 45 has soared. What does that tell you . Well, things are getting worse for sure, and we have some studies here suggesting that even in sao paulo, where you get the best possible health care in brazil, 7 out of 10 patients that Get Intubated at the icu will die. This is, you know, 70 Mortality Rate for patients who Get Intubated, which, you know, i never heard in my entire career. In other parts of brazil, in the northeast, some states in the north, in the amazon region, that number is 9 out of 10, which is, you know, you dont even know how to understand that. That is incredible. I mean for months in brazil, deaths sat at around 1,000 a day, and then literally in a matter of weeks, it was 2,000, then 3,000. Now more than 4,000. Is this a warning for the world . Oh, absolutely. Things are getting out of control, and i actually believe that last week we had at least one day in which brazil reached 5,000 deaths because one of the major states in brazil did not report fully the data they got. They reported less than a fifth of the real data. So since they got the other data, the day after 500 deaths in the state, we probably crossed close to 4,900 deaths in brazil at that point. That shows that the pandemic in brazil is probably generating a lot of mutations and variants that could spread out of the country. Yeah. What happens in one country can impact the rest of the world. I wanted to read a couple of things there was a team from the Harvard School of Public Health and experts at the University Of Sao Paulo and elsewhere. There was a study or a report in the journal science and ill just quote a little bit from it. It says, in brazil the federal response has been a dangerous combination of inaction and wrongdoing. In Rio De Janeiro political chaos compromised a prompt and effective response. It also says the Covid Response in brazil was neither prompt nor equitable. It still isnt, and brazil is currently facing the worst moment of the pandemic. What does all of that say about the Covid Response in brazil where you are, the leadership . Well, basically the brazilian leadership, i mean the federal government never took this seriously since the beginning, and it found all sorts of excuses not to act properly. And when we had this warning in january saying that brazil would get into the worst part of the pandemic in two or three months, all the epidemiologists and the Scientific Community in brazil started recommending a National Lockdown to prevent what is happening right now. And the federal government didnt listen to any of us. So its pretty clear that they never acted up to the task that they had front of them to prevent this tragedy that is happening in brazil. Its unfolding at levels that we never imagined could be possible down here. It is incredible. It just gets worse and worse every time i speak with you. Dr. Miguel nicolelis in sao paulo, really appreciate your time and your work. Thank you. Thank you very much. Well take a quick break. Well be right back. The u. S. Secretary of state, Antony Blinken, Made A Surprise visit to afghanistan on thursday. This of course coming just one day after President Biden announced plans for a u. S. Troop withdrawal from the company. Cnns Nick Paton Walsh with details. Reporter u. S. Secretary of state Antony Blinken in kabul, he said to essentially tell afghan officials that the u. S. Is not simply going away from here. The relationship it has with the Afghan Government is simply evolving. Im sure some of those words may have rung hollow in the hearts of afghan officials, fearing what a Military Withdrawal could do here by September 11th on the battlefield. But certain publicly the reception seemed to sustain. The first reaction we got from the government is president ghani, who tweeted after president joe bidens speech that they respected the u. S. Decision about Troop Withdrawals and wanted a smooth transition, saying the Afghan Government simply had to adjust its priorities. Thats putting a very fine point on it certainly. But Antony Blinken full of messages of reassurance, talking about how their relationship would move to a diplomatic and economic atmosphere as well. There is small print between the lines, readings you could do of joe bidens speech suggesting theres still a possibility for u. S. Military involvement before it departs here, particularly if it or its afghan partners are attacked by the taliban. But Antony Blinken laid out the two essential notions, firstly that the idea of keeping behind a large force here to fight a Counterterror Mission that has substantially evolved into other countries and to other forms over the past 20 years simply didnt make logical sense to the United States. And also, two, what seems to be the key creed behind this biden administrations strategy, that its the taliban essentially wants legitimacy. He said the taliban wouldnt really want to use force to try and dominate Afghan Society because it would lose that legitimacy. Some believing that the insurgency after two decades simply wants to have International Recognition if its part of a Transitional Government like the u. S. Peace plan suggests and possibly get International Aid if it does get its hands more on the leaves of power. But its an enormous gamble and one of the face of the taliban right now appears to entirely contradict. They keep putting out messages saying theyre not interested in the peace talks that the u. S. Wants to start on saturday in istanbul, particularly if Foreign Forces are still in afghanistan. And that in fact was a message reiterated demanding the full withdrawal just before Antony Blinken gave a Press Conference here. The taliban put out a Statement Saying that they felt there had to be a full withdrawal and that the u. S. By not doing that by may 1st was in violation of the agreement signed by the thentrump administration, known as the doha agreement. They said there could be countermeasures against the americans, and americans would only have themselves to blame. That essentially brings to mind the key threat in the months ahead, that violence could pick up. It could be focused on americans. It could be focused on the Afghan Government. It could simply be focused on taking more territory for the taliban. But thats the real risk that normal afghans here run. They see the main garren for ever security now departing and a possible abyss the country is edging towards. Diplomacy is where all eyes are now but the taliban currently saying thats not in their game plan. Nick paton walsh, cnn, kabul, afghanistan. Im michael homes. Dont go anywhere. Kim brunhuber will be here with more on the Mass Shooting that has killed eight people in indianapolis. Thanks for being with us

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