be concerned about blood clots? >> well, i mean, if someone recently, within days, i would tell them to just first of all don't get an anxiety reaction, remember, it's lez than 1 in a million. however, having said that, pay attention. do you have symptoms? headache, do you have shortness of breath. chest discomfort. do you have anything that resembles a neurological syndrome? obviously if you have something as serious as a seizure, that's pretty clear. but the manifestations of this are that, headache is the very common component of it because the sinus thrombosis that they have is the draining of the blood and the brain and it will cause enough symptomology to make you notice it. just tell people to just watch out for not feeling very well. >> thanks and one for jeff. officials from different states told us this morning that they were really caught off guard by this announcement, they were ready the put shots into people's arms and had to scramble. when and how did you notify states that they might have to pause? >> well, as i said, we didn't know about anything in terms of the announcement until last night and we didn't even know the content of the announcement until this morning when everyone else read it. as soon as we got that our team farmed out and started contacting folks to make sure that everyone knew that that was announced by the fda and cdc. tuesday is the day i have my regular governors call. that was fortunate that that was at 11:00 a.m. we had the governors already lined up with their teams and we had doctors fauci and walensky with that call. they will continue to support the channels and community health centers to make the adjustments. the message got out clearly and quickly. there was no heads up here. the announcement was made this morning. >> thank you. >> a few quick ones. do we have a timeline, are we talking days before -- or a week? second for jeff, if you don't mind, i understand what you're saying on the macro level related to supply but when you talk to local officials, the j&j shot is considered a crucial component in rural areas and underserved communities. how does that not affect the timeline you guys are on in terms of getting shots in arms? >> during one of the questions which was asked, i believe, of the cdc, the question was just yours, and i don't know what they're going to be doing. what i heard from the previous press discussion was it's going to be more like days to weeks rather than weeks to months. >> we have plenty of supply and we have plenty of vehicles for delivering that supply, whether it's through the federal pharmacy channel, whether it's mobile units, community health centers, and all of those are equipped to deliver the moderna and pfizer vaccine. so we'll make sure that those units continue to grow in number. you're right, we need to reach people where they are in the mobile units and the community health centers which are particularly essential for those and they have been receiving moderna and pfizer doses since we began both those programs. >> it's no different, you just swap out the vaccine, if it was a mass vaccination center or if it was a mobile unit going to a rural area. >> moderna and pfizer vaccines are two-dose vaccines, it's important that people come back for their second dose, three weeks post their first dose of pfizer and four weeks post their first dose of moderna. but all of our units, all of our delivery channels are equipped to deliver both pfizer and moderna. >> real quick, how does this not contribute the very areas where hesitancy is most predominant at this point in time, based on what you guys have seen, do you have to change your message, do something different to address hesitancy? >> continue to be transparent about what the science is telling us, that's what brings us here today. as dr. fauci said there's been tens of millions of doses of pfizer and moderna administered over the last several months and millions of people, both in the u.s. and around the world have been safely vaccinated. i think it's important that, you know, we have here the fda and the fda is the gold standard for ensuring safety and effectiveness of the vaccines. and today's action, i think, is clear evidence that they're taking every step necessary to ensure the american people have clear and transparent information about the safety and effectiveness of these vaccines. bottom line is the vaccines, moderna and pfizer, that are now being administered, are clearly safe and are saving lives, and every american should get vaccinated when it's their turn. >> thanks. jeff, is the -- is j&j production going to continue during this pause, and secondly, is the biden administration considering ordering more doses of pfizer and moderna given -- in just in case this problem with j&j becomes prolonged? >> so the j&j production issues in baltimore, obviously, completely separate set of issues and those are being worked out through the fda process with the company. and production of those vaccines can begin if and when the fda authorizes that facility. second question was, we really have thought of this as a wartime effort from the beginning, which is why we purchased excess supply so we'd be ready for any contingency and we'll continue to look at every possibility in terms of making sure we always have enough supply for the american people. >> to clarify on the j&j production, not related to the baltimore plant, but overall j&j production is that going to pause while this pause on administering doses occurs or is the production going to continue. >> it's really centered around that baltimore facility, the vast majority of the production is that baltimore facility. >> andrea? >> i want to just ask you very directly, are you ruling out the possibility that the vaccine could be removed from the market? are you ruling out that -- are you expecting it to be reallowed? >> you know, i think it would be premature to comment on that, that's the reason why the pause was done. so that they could take a good look at it, very carefully look at every, if in fact -- i wouldn't want to speculate as to what would happen often when you see things like this, that you pause and come back. whether or not that happens now i can't guarantee it, but i can tell you, that's exactly what the cdc and fda people are going to be deciding on and looking at very carefully. >> if i could just ask you on this outreach question, so, you know, this is a problem that you've been struggling with, the vaccine hesitancy. this obviously is a setback. what do you have to ramp up into an additional war type effort to really ensure that this message gets out there, do you personally go to states like mississippi where the vaccination rate is really low. >> let me answer your first question. you know, we -- consistent with it being a wartime effort, we plan for different scenarios of contingencies, we have enough supply of moderna and pfizer to hit the targets that we've set, the 200 million shots in 100 days, and to head toward the 4th of july that we've talked about as a country, more normal 4th of july. clearly, part of that is making sure that when it's an american's turn to get vaccinated, they get vaccinated and we do need to continue to build confidence. that's done at the community level. people are trusting of their local doctors, their faith leaders, their neighbors. which is why it's important when people do get vaccinated they not only get themselves vaccinated but they spread the word about the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines. >> one of the goals you haven't mentioned today is the hope that there would be enough supply on hand for the country by the end of may. is that still operative now in the wake of this pause? and the second question is, it's a bit surprising to learn you only yourself learned about this, this morning, do you wish you had heard sooner? >> i learned about it last night. that's to the science and we want the science agencies to lead with science and there's no reason for us to be involved in any of the scientific decisions. we bring nothing to the table. that is the fda's role, that is the cdc's role. and they're led by terrific leaders with great teams to do the science and this administration would be led by science. to your first question, we believe that there's enough vaccination -- there's vaccine in the system, moderna and pfizer, for all americans who want to get vaccinated by may 31st to do so. >> jeff, i feel like we're dancing around the hesitancy question here. to ask you directly, do you think the announcement of this pause will increase or decrease vaccine hesitancy? >> look, hesitancy amongst a group of people is a challenge and we need to be addressing it and we are, as i talked about, by going to meet people where they are, to follow all that we've learned about who people trust, their local doctor, their nurse, their faith leader, and i think that, you know, there's tremendous track record as dr. fauci has talked about with tens of millions of doses of pfizer and moderna. the fda acting the way they did today shows that they are indeed the gold standard and i think that should reassure the american public that they will be very diligent and conservative in how they approach the vaccines. >> so the argument is that because the fda, this trip wire was triggered, that should give americans more confidence in the overall vaccination plan? >> certainly around how safety and efficacy are being monitored by the gold standard folks at the fda. >> let's do three more and then we'll let them go back, go ahead. >> jeff, you said the fda is the gold standard for ensuring the safety and efficacy of vaccines, to what extent does today's news add urgency to the effort of getting a permit nominee confirmed to head the fda. clearly it's an important post, but how much of a spotlight does this news -- >> i have no personnel announcement to make today. the fda has an extraordinary group of scientists and experts to lead these types of efforts. >> how helpful would a permanent director be in those efforts? >> the fda does an extraordinary job, and the teams that are addressing these issues are experienced teams, in fact the acting director is a very experienced leader, so i would -- i think the experience of the fda and the expertise of the fda is, indeed, the gold standard. >> go ahead. >> are there any immediate plans to accommodate mistakes because of this pause and can you guarantee that every person who had a reservation cancelled will get rescheduled in a matter of days? >> as i said, i think there's already in certain locations people who are scheduled for today are already rescheduled. so we'll do anything we can to support the states on the logistics of rescheduling and the same time the most important thing is that the supply exists to continue to vaccinate 3 million americans a day and there's enough supply to actually accelerate that. there's tens of millions of doses in the system and as i said today we announced 28 million more moderna and pfizer doses. available to order this week. >> last question. >> dr. fauci, you said that there was no red flags with the other two vaccines, this question may be asking you to state the obvious. can you verify that there were no developments of blood clot symptoms in the recipients of those vaccines? >> there have been no serious events to call attention to anything that would relate to a pause. >> why would it be in -- why one vaccine and not the other two and how does that speak to the safety of the other two vaccines? >> i think, you know, when you examine everything in general the fact that you've had 120 million doses, individuals have received at least one dose, and as you subtract out of that 121 million, 6.85, you're talking about 114 or so million individuals have received at least one dose, and no negative red flag signals. that tells you you're dealing with a really safe vaccine. and i think app a poe of several questions people ask about hesitancy. when you want to talk about safety this is an extraordinary safety record that the others have and the fact that a pause was done i think just as a testimony to how seriously we take safety and why we have an fda and a cdc that looks at this very carefully and hopefully will resolve it pretty soon within days to weeks apropos of your question. it's a strong argument for safety, actually. >> thank you, dr. fauci, thank you, jeff, appreciate you guys taking the time. >> thank you. i'm ana cabrera, you've been listening to dr. anthony fauci and the covid-19 response coordinator jeff zients, the fda and cdc are recommending a pause in the use of the johnson & johnson covid vaccine. there are blood clot concerns. i want to bring in dr. sanjay gupta and dr. jorge rodriguez to discuss more. sanjay, first to you what was the most important takeaway from this briefing? >> they gave justification as to why this pause is happening and laid out a bit of what we've already heard from the fda and cdc about how frequent this was, what they want to do during this pause, which was two things primarily, see if there's anything that sort of ties these six women between the ages of 18 and 48 together and we can put up some of the things that we already know about these women but they want to see, is there something about them that is a common denominator as dr. fauci described? we know that 7 million people have been vaccinated. these are six cases we're talking about. so it really is, actually, less than 1 in a million that we know of so far, all women between the ages of 18 and 48. and also, their symptoms appeared within two weeks, within 13 days, actually, the other important thing, i think, as far as the justification for the pause, this is a little bit of a nuanced point, donna, but dr. fauci used this term a few times, called cytopenia. the person developed a blood clot, if you're developing blood clots you're clotting a lot but at the same time they had low platelets which is something that could lead to bleeding. you have two diametrically opposed problems at the same time, the platelets are coming and forming that one clot and you don't have enough platelets in the rest of the body. the point is you wouldn't necessarily want to give somebody like that blood thinners. that could worsen the bleeding. it's a nuanced point but that's a message he wants to get out to clinicians. you see a blood clot, you're clotting too much, give blood thinner, that may not be the right answer here. so we'll see how this all sort of progresses over the next few days but it sounds like we should -- they should have some sort of decision within a few days. that's the clot incidentally you're looking at on the screen. that's an example of it. the blue is all the blood vessels that drain blood away from the brain. but sometimes if you get a clot there then you can't drain blood as well. the patient may get swelling of the brain, that can cause headaches and blurred vision or seizures. that's what they were driving at, i think, ana. >> sanjay hit on this. if you're somebody who has already received this vaccine, and now you're thinking, oh, my goodness, how do i know if i could be, you know, potentially on the road to having a blood clot, what do you need to look for and what should you do? >> actually, that's a great point, this morning, as soon as i found out this information, i called my three patients that i knew had got tennessee johnson & johnson vaccine over the last week. i told them they needed to be aware, first of all, of any change in their state of health and not just a mild change, like dr. gupta brought up, any change in your ability to think, any mentation changes, obviously seizures would be a thing, any prolonged headache. you may get headaches with the vaccine but something that's highly unusual. and secondary, any swelling, for example, of your legs, the extremities or any severe shortness of breath that does not go away. now, the key here is extraordinary changes as opposed to the usual symptoms we may get with the vaccine and this is something that they need to be aware of for the next couple of weeks. i think sanjay brought up a good point that clinicians need to be aware that this is associated with low platelets. what we call a thrombo cytopenia. doctors would know this is something that's associated with a long-term side effect of the j&j vaccine. >> i'm glad you were more specific about the type of headache or the shortness of breath people should be aware of as opposed to the everyday shortness of breath you might get when you walk up a flight of stairs and you get to the top and feel short of breath. if you've had the johnson & johnson vaccine you can see people panicking at that point. let's say you've got the vaccine and made it two to three weeks post shot, you don't have symptoms, sanjay, are you in the clear. >> it sounds like it. all we know is these six patients. so we're learning this realtime. the reason they came up with this time frame is that they develop symptoms within that period of time, within 13 days after having received the vaccine. so we'll see if something else sort of comes out of this investigation that they're going to do over the next few days but it sounds like if this is some sort of immune reaction you've given the vaccine, and now as part of the immune reaction that you're getting to make antibodies, that immune reaction is also affecting your platelets, typically that happens pretty quickly. so, you know, i think that's where they're coming up with this time frame. but we'll see. that will be a big question when they actually announce their conclusions. >> and the doctors both emphasized that there are still two very highly effective and safe vaccines that are continuing to vaccinate people currently with pfizer and moderna. they anticipate this pause will be days to weeks as opposed to weeks to months as they do further investigation, but vaccine hesitancy is a real issue, and it has been for some time. dr. rodriguez, what do you say to people who have heard this news and they were already hesitant to get a covid vaccine? >> i think people need to realize they're in a very unique position where they are actually seeing science in realtime develop. we doctors know that this happens behind the scenes and usually you don't get this information until years in advance. so they're actually seeing how the sausage is being made, and that can be scary at this point. but that should not keep them from going ahead and trying to decrease the greater danger, which is that of covid. also, i think it should be very reassuring that there are hundreds of eyes focused on what is happening with these vaccines, that they are acting very quickly to stop or to slow down any potential danger. i think that should be very reassuring. >> dr. jorge rodriguez and sanjay gupta, great to have both of you and thank you for that great information. we're following two big stories in minnesota today, anger filling the streets as protesters clash with police after the shooting death of daunte wright. the officer who shot him meant to use a taser instead of a gun. we're expecting a press conference soon from the brooklyn city mayor and there's the ongoing murder trial of derek chauvin happening a few miles away. defense attorneys have begun their case today. what's their strategy? 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>> yes. >> and at that point mr. floyd suddenly fell asleep? >> he was already asleep. >> he was already sleeping. >> yes, when they came to the car. and when they came there and tried to wake him up, they tried, i tried over and over and his friend tried to wake him up and he -- he woke up, then he'll say something and made a little gesture, you know, and nodded back off. >> the court is currently in lunch break. let's go live to josh campbell just outside the minneapolis courthouse where this trial entered a new phase this morning. what can you tell us about the defense team's strategy with the witnesses they -- >> one thing they're seeing is they're moving rapidly, that being the defense. we moved through several witnesses already today and this is the first day of the defense laying out their case, two things we're noticing about the strategy, which is part of this theme that we saw during the prosecution's case from the defense side, that is first focusing on george floyd himself and his actions, this idea that possibly it was due to some type of drug addiction, or him being under the influence on that day here last year that contributed to his death rather than the actions of this officer, and that came from two of the first witnesses that we saw from the defense, the defense calling an officer who was part of a may 2019 encounter that george floyd had as well as a medic who treated him after that police encounter and what the medic said is that george floyd said that he was addicted to opioids, getting, again, to the scene that the defense has been trying to show, that it was possibly drugs that were in floyd's system at the time, that contributed to his death rather than the actions of the officer. now, one other thing that we've been looking at, which is also part of this pattern, is this notion that perhaps the crowd that was around that incident last year may have contributed to the officers being distracted, one of the witnesses that was called by the defense today was a park police officer who showed up on that day to assist, we got new vantage point of this officer's body camera, and he talked about what he thought about the crowd that was around that police car. take a listen to what he said. >> there was a crowd. and i guess the crowd was becoming more loud and aggressive. a lot of yelling across the street. >> did that cause you any concern? >> concerns for officers' safety, yes. >> did you go over to try to help them? >> no, because my job was to watch the car and the two individuals by the car. >> again, trying to get to that notion that perhaps chauvin as he was there on top of george floyd may have been distract or felt threatened by this crowd. of course there are other vantage points of this -- the bystander video that we've been seeing where you don't see the officers look like they're in any imminent danger and we know from the testimony of different witnesses they didn't call for additional backup on that day so really kind of refuting this notion that perhaps it was due to distraction that that was the reason why chauvin was on george floyd for so long, we're expecting additional witnesses from the defense side, nowhere near the number of witnesses we saw from the prosecution, the judge in this case ana saying we could possibly expect closing arguments in this case to start just this monday, very quickly. >> josh campbell, you've been doing excellent reporting, thank you for joining us. joining us now is former federal prosecutor and cnn senior legal analyst laura coates and law enforcement analyst and former philadelphia police commissioner charles ramsey. laura, f the first witness the defense called today was an officer who arrested floyd in 2019. now, the defense has argued that this demonstrates a common plan, a habit, an intent of floyd, taking drugs during an arrest. why do you think he was first? and does it help their case? >>. >> they're attempting to put george floyd on trial, and somehow but for george floyd's own behavior he would be alive today. the overwhelming testimony we've seen, throughout the course of the last two weeks, has shown a very different story. but for george floyd, trying to villainize him. not successful. as these witnesses have pointed out, the only difference between that arrest back in 2019 and what transpired on 2020, when officers in both scenarios initially had guns drawn but they decided to put them away, george floyd was compliant, and he survived the 2019 encounter, what's the distinction? derek chauvin, the defendant in this case. it's kind of confounding to try to juxtapose those two together if you're the defense. any sort of points we think you've scored has really been overshadowed by the apparent statement of derek chauvin this time did apply deadly force for a sustained and reasonable amount of time, but essentially, unless we know differently, caused the death of george floyd. why raise this issue if you're the defense? >> laura and commissioner, please stand by with me, we got breaking news, and we've just confirmed kim potter, the officer who was identified as the person who shot and killed daunte wright has just resigned from the brooklyn center police department. i want to go live right to brooklyn center now. this is in minnesota, a few miles away from the chauvin trial, and this is cnn's shimon prokupecz joining us, what have you learned? >> reporter: so we just received the letter, the resignation letter that the officer # kim potter, the 26 year veteran of this department sent to the mayor, she said she is resigning, she doesn't really mention what happened to daunte wright but she does say she loved every minute of being a police officer and serving the community and that she is resigning because it is in the best interest of the community, the police department, and her fellow officers, and so that is why she is resigning, she says, and then she signs the letter officer kim potter. so that is it. the big question has been, what was going to ultimately happen to this officer? many people wanted her to be fired after the police chief came out yesterday so quickly, and said that this was an accident. a lot of people took issue with the way the chief described what happened here. now the big question is, what happens to the chief? city council members here want to see him fired as well. we are waiting to hear from the mayor on what the next steps are going to be but certainly significant now that this officer has resigned from the department, ana. >> shimon, we are going to take that press conference when we hear from the mayor any moment. let me go back to commissioner ramsey, and, again, i may have to cut you off, commissioner, but first a reaction as we wait for his press conference to begin. >> well, i'm not surprised, to be honest with you, under the circumstances, 26 years to retire after something like that, which i would think is probably more accurate than actually resigning. probably just retired. i'm not surprised. the first thing i thought when you broke in was that she may have committed suicide, to be honest with you. i hate to say that. that's common with police officers, especially, you know, with a lot of stress like that. so i'm not surprised that it happened. i don't think it will do anything to, you know, relieve any of the tension that the community feels right now toward that police department. >> again, before we take the press conference, laura, do you think it has an impact on the legal case? stand by, i'm told he's starting. we'll come back to that after this. so obviously it's been a -- an eventful several hours for our city. we are still experiencing trauma in our community. from the events that unfolded, which led to the killing of daunte wright. yesterday i was able to speak with daunte wright's father and express our condolences on behalf of the city. i want to bring you all up to speed on a number of events that transpired yesterday, including events that transpired today. that is our commitment, to continue to be open and transparent, and to continue to provide information on this evolving crisis. yesterday the city council of brooklyn center met in session and took a series of actions to address the current crisis. that included a vote in which the council voted to streamline the chain of command with the department and voted to -- according to our city, in accordance with our city charter, have the command of the police department under the office of the mayor. that was the first action the council took. the council then took action to relieve the city manager of his duties. as you all know the city manager had responsibility and command over the police department until yesterday. the city council also passed a resolution yesterday in support of relieving the police chief and the officer who was involved in the shooting. as of this morning we have the resignation -- we have received a resignation letter from officer kim porter, and in addition to that we have also received a letter of resignation from the polic e chief. all right, can you two come up ? all right, so with the police chief's resignation we're going to appoint two of our senior commanders to play critical leadership roles in leading the department through this crisis. commander tony groning is going to be the acting chief, and commander garrett flesland is going to assist the chief with regards to handling this current crisis. and so that is the update -- those are the updates we have for you at the moment. if you have any questions we're happy to stand for questions. >> first, can you have the acting chief say his name and spell it, and were they sworn in moments ago while we were waiting for this news conference to start? >> yeah, go ahead. >> did you want me to? >> step to the microphone, please. >> i'm sorry, mayor. >> say your name. >> tony gruenig, g-r-u-e-n-i-g. acting police chief, yes. >> and how long have you been with the department? >> 19 years. >> what's on your heart, stepping into this new role? >> i don't have any prepared statements. just trying to step forward and fill a leadership role right now. >> i don't like asking how do you feel? >> it's very chaotic right now. i was just informed less than a half hour ago or an hour ago about the change in status. there's just a lot of chaos going on right now. we're just trying to wrap our heads around the situation and try and create some calm. that can kind of transition into we'd like some calm for the community, just some pause and community calming as we try and wrap our heads around the entire situation. >> mayor, i have a question for you. >> let me just say the acting chief here has spent a lot of time working in the community, working with the community, he's someone who knows brooklyn center well, has probably, i would say more than any other -- any other person in the department, has a very strong commitment to working directly with the community to help resolve issues. he's done that throughout his career. that is why he is the right person to step forward and take on this role at this time. >> mayor, let me ask you, since officer potter was allowed to resign, is she allowed to keep her pension and can she join another police department? >> you know, i do not have the answer to that. i do not know that. >> police protocol, might be a lay answer. >> are you prepared to speak to that? >> i can't, i don't know the situation and her benefits package. >> so that's information we can get back to you on. >> mayor, how does this clang the situation for the department now that the officer has formally resigned, how does that change things going forward for the department and the city? >> you know, what i understand is that the officer stepping down has the effect, i think, of speaking to one of the things that the community -- that folks who have been out here protesting, have been calling for, and that is that the officers should be relieved of her duties. and so, you know, i'm hoping that this would help bring some calm to the community, although, you know, i think ultimately people want justice. they want, you know, full accountability under the law. and so that's what we're going to continue to work for. we have to -- you know, make sure that justice is served. justice is done. daunte wright deserves that, his family deserves that, and, you know, i'm appreciative of the officer, you know, stepping down and saying that, you know, she felt that was the right thing to do, right thing to do for the community, and, you know, i couldn't agree more. >> did the city ask her to resign? >> we did not ask her to resign. that was a decision that she made. >> when did she make this decision and did she get wind that you were planning to terminate her? >> i do not know if she got wind of an impending termination or not. you know, she, you know, i believe, informed the city this morning at approximately 9:56 this morning, at 9:56 a.m. this morning. >> what kind of message are you hoping these personnel changes send to the community? especially specifically the police chief. >> well, certainly. i mean, you know, we -- we want to send a message to the community that we're taking this situation very seriously. although things did not unfold the way we thought ultimately they should unfold we're hoping that we're turning over a new leaf now. i'm confident in that. i think that, you know, we're going to develop an approach that is community-based, that is based on working with the very strong voices in our community, people who are influencers in our community, in partnering directly with the police department, partnering directly with the leadership to try and at the same time provide people with the opportunity to speak up and deliver their grievances to government. but to do so in a way, you know, that their anger is channeled to protesting, and we want -- we want the community to know that this leadership for the department here, these are two individuals who are in the acting chief in particular, they both are committed, committed to engaging the community, engaging people who are out here protesting and that's the message we want to send. we think that we can do both. we can keep the community safe and we can do that by working with the community and working with leaders. >> who is ultimately in charge now? is it you, is it the city council, is it the acting city manager? there seems to be confusion about that. >> okay, let me clear that up. i am in charge ultimately. the city manager has responsibi responsibilities over the department. that is the chain of command. >> can i ask you -- do you guys plan os removing that blue thin lined flag from in front of the police station? any of you three can answer that question. >> i'll answer that. i have gotten a number of inquiries about the flag. from the aclu of minnesota, requests to have that flag taken down because they see it and the community sees it as inflammatory. and so with people coming to the department expressing their anger, in seeing the flag, you know, we don't want the flag to be a flash point that, you know, angers people and does that in a way that, you know, that, you know, that they're going to come to the department. and so we've asked the flag to be removed. has the flag been removed? >> i'm not sure -- >> my understanding is that -- do you know? do you know whether the blue flag -- you're not aware. >> first i've heard of it, i'm sorry. >> i do believe that the flag is no longer there. and once there is -- the american flag. >> one of the -- in addition to the killing of daunte is the way police responded to peaceful protesters. tear gas and rubber bullets. now that you're in charge can you ensure us that we're not going to see any of that tonight? >> this is a very, very difficult question to answer, quite honestly. our city council passed a resolution yesterday, i forgot to say this earlier. and that resolution, i don't have the language in front of me right now. but that resolution spoke to what our officers are allowed to do and are not allowed to do. can you find that resolution for me, please? thank you. i will -- >> i just want to know one thing. >> i will reference what the resolution says in terms of how our officers can behave. one thing i want you all to kno, there was a regional central command set up related to the george -- i'm sorry, the derek chauvin trial, and that -- that operation has been mobilized to respond here in brooklyn center. there are -- there's a regional command center that has command and jurisdiction over the state patrol, the joint law enforcement agencies that are acting in brooklyn center, including the state patrol, the national guard, and the hennepin county sheriff's department. and so, they are giving orders to respond using tear gas and rubber bullets, and we have not given those orders here in brooklyn center. one -- thank you. one thing i will say is, we are committed to not using those forms of -- and those tactics. let me just say what the language in the brooklyn center's city council resolution says. and this is a resolution limiting police crowd control tactics during protests. it says, you know, whereas the city of brooklyn center is -- brooklyn center experienced a tragic incident which started a peaceful protest and whereas locations can limit police tactics and brutality in response to protests to protect civilians and maintain their rights to protest, whereas given the violence police perpetuate -- i'm sorry. sorry. yeah, against protesters should even less -- it should be even less of a priority to issue curfew enforcements, and curfew enforcements can lead to an excuse for more arrests and violence, so we want to be careful how we're instituting curfews against people who are protesting peacefully. it's one thing when people are protesting peacefully. it is another -- let me just be clear -- if peaceful -- if people are not protesting peacefully and they're engaged in, you know, any kind of use of force against law enforcement, i just want to say that there are -- there is a difference there that we recognize. so, the -- so, the city of brooklyn center prohibits the use of -- >> i'm going to pull away from this press conference right now. that is the brooklyn center mayor, michke elliott. he's just been making two big announcements, the resignation of the officer who was involved in the shooting, who shot and killed daunte wright, the 20-year-old black man who was stopped by police. he also announced that the police chief of brooklyn center has also resigned today, and he is now put two top commanders, senior commanders in that police force in charge of leading that department moving forward. in the meantime, we are also hearing from the mother of daunte wright talking about the phone call she had with her son after he was pulled over by police. let's listen. >> i just want to talk a little about -- a little bit about the day that i got the phone call from my son two days ago at 1:47 was the worst day of my life. he called and said he just got pulled over by the police and then he said that -- i said, why did you get pulled over? he said, because i had air fresheners hanging in the rear view mirror. i said, take them down. he said he also -- the police officers were asking about insurance and i said, okay, when the police officer comes back to the window, put him on the phone and i can give him all our insurance information. a second goes by and i hear the police officer come back up to the window and ask daunte to get out of the car. daunte asked for what. the police officer said, because -- you know, i'll explain to you when you get out of the car. he said, am i in trouble? he said, we'll explain all that when you step out of the car. daunte and then they asked him to put the phone down. daunte put the phone down. i heard some shuffling. he got out of the car and i could hear the police officers scuffling with him. >> take your time. we're with you. >> we love you, sis. >> then the police officer asked him to hang up the phone. they hung up the phone. three or four seconds went by, i tried calling back-to-back to back because i didn't know what was going on and i never imagined this is what was going to happen. i just thought maybe he was being arrested, and then when i called back, this girl that he had in the car answered the phone and it was a -- on a facetime, and she said -- she was crying and screaming and she said that they shot him and she pointed the phone toward the driver's seat and my son was laying there, unresponsive. that was the last time that i seen my son. that's the last time i heard from my son, and i have had no explanation since then. >> we're with you, miss katie. >> yes. >> we got your back. >> please continue. >> mr. wright, do you have a word to say? okay. okay. now we're going to hear from chyna -- >> the mother of daunte wright who just lost her son who was on the phone with her son when this police encounter began only to learn that it ended the way it did. you can hear the anguish. that was going on as we got this huge announcement from the mayor about the resignations of not only the police officer who shot and killed daunte wright but also the police chief of that department, laura coates and charles ramsey are back with us now. commissioner ramsey, kim potter, the police officer, resigned. the police chief resigned. the city manager has been relieved of his duties. what do you make of all this? >> well, i mean, i can only imagine the amount of pressure that the chief was under, under the circumstances. i'm not surprised that the officer resigned. with 26 years and i don't know their pension package at all, but i would imagine she can retire and pull a pension. the chief had to be under enormous pressure, so when the mayor said no one, you know, put pressure, i mean, no, you know that's not true. but he stepped down, and that's the right thing to do. under the circumstances. >> why do you think it was the right thing to do? >> well, i mean, it relieves the pressure. i mean, you know, first of all, he probably didn't have much backing from the political leadership and also the community. i mean, you want to try to calm things down, and sometimes you hate to say it, but sometimes that's what it takes, although i was surprised that he -- that he did resign. >> commissioner, speaking of calming things down, forgive me for interrupting, right now, there is an activist confronting the mayor as that press conference is still going on. let's listen. >> i'm tired of it. >> amen. >> thank you. so, as of -- i mean, as of this moment, i don't believe any officer, right, is from the city? >> i don't have the exact -- >> that's right. the last time -- we have 49? >> yes. >> yes. okay. yeah, so, we have 49 sworn officers at the moment. could be off by maybe one or two. but yeah, as of this moment, i don't believe any one of our officers live in brooklyn center. that is something that we are aware of. up until this time, obviously, you know, we had different leadership over the police department. we do feel very strongly that we need officers to be from the community. obviously, not every officer can live in the city where they work. i don't think that that would be feasible or practical. but there should -- there is a huge importance to having a significant number of your officers living in the community where they serve because i -- i think it helps the department. it helps inform the culture of the department. it helps to infuse knowledge of the community into policing, and i think that can only help to enhance the work of the officers, and it can only help make their jobs better or easier. >> mayor, is it too late for you to fire her anyway? as opposed to actually accepting her resignation? because i believe that the community calls for her to be fired. you yourself said that you wanted her to be fired. and we are concerned that this is an easy way out where now she can go back to the post board and get hired by another department when really she is unfit to be a police officer in the state of minnesota or anywhere around the nation. >> well, i do appreciate that. i have not accepted her resignation, and so, you know, to where -- >> is that likely to change? >> i don't know. like i said, we are doing our internal process to make sure that we're being accountable to the steps that we need to take. >> did she say why she resigned? >> okay. no. and that is not something i can share at this moment. >> can you talk about -- >> not something that you can see or not. that document is public. a resignation. >> yes? >> we run a nonprofit that works with the police in hennepin county north metro area. one of the most important things will help keep the peace, ask for accountabili

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