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Boy, you guys, you know, you are overhyping this. Really, there is a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/disinformation-campaign'>Disinformation Campaign afoot right now, all over social media. Being given a loud speaker on hate tv. That Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th was no big deal. Man, was it overblown. They really werent even armed. Most of them were just patriots who went there to protest. Well, i spoke to some folks, who said that there were weapons recovered. And by Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-way'>The Way, a lot of the people, do we do you really know if there were . And they are saying armed. What they mean by armed is guns. Yeah, like you Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/cant-whoop'>Cant Whoop Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/somebodys-ass'>Somebodys Ass without a gun. Or with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bear-spray'>Bear Spray or with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pepper-spray'>Pepper Spray or with a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bicycle-gate'>Bicycle Gate or with a fire extinguisher. Come on, people. A hundred cops, injured. What was it, their feelings that were hurt . And these are the guys that always wave their flags. Well, they are not using it to beat you over the head. I tell you what. You have a lot of cop friends. I have a lot of cop friends. My hcop friends are not happy about this. And there were some that actually supported the former president and watched staterun tv. Not anymore. I got to be honest with you. A lot of a lot of people, i knew, who were supportive of the administration, very conservative. Their whole world was turned upside down that day, because everything that they thought they believed in had turned upside down. Theyre like, wait a minute. You mean, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/state-tv'>State Tv is lying to me . You mean, the former president is . You mean, they dont support cops Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-way'>The Way that they do Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/police-officer'>Police Officers . They do when it suits their agenda. Yeah. But it was a real, wakeup call for a lot of people. And i think that i really do believe that, that put a dent in the former the former guy. As the new guy puts it. In his credibility with with i dont know how i would say, a substantial portion of his base. I really do. Well, look. I dont know if its long lasting. Weve never seen anybody do anything worse, in terms of fomenting political discord in this country. Yeah. Weve never covered anything, like that, because nobodys ever done anything that even approached it. Let alone, incited it. And i have to say, be careful. Because, once again, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fringe-right'>Fringe Right will win the messaging war. They will get more of their people to believe that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th didnt happen, because the left doesnt talk about it. But we got to call it out, which is what i am going to do. But i, also, have to call you out because, what were you telling me during the commercial break . Listen. I cant believe you want to introduce this to peoples lives. I am trying to help this guy. Because i love him and he is messing with his tie. His tie is, like, all Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-way'>The Way over here. And hes got 19 people working on him. Behind the scenes. Here is the thing. I am trying to fix my cord. I its pulling my tie. Oh, now i took it off. And, you know, mr. Numberone bestseller now is a new guy. Hes like, im not 90. You wear the same thing every night. Shut up. These are dimples. The cord was pulling my tie. Its not. What you do is when you when you are putting the tie on, you yank it. That causes a dimple. I dont want a dimple, every night, because im not an old man. Its i have a pocket square. That is enough. And so, anyways, you you are trying to tell me about fashion . Here it comes. Come on, brother. Like, an old lady, in church. Hes got the papers. Hes got the papers, now. Calm down, don. Oh, lordy. Sorry for trying to help. I got to get to the news. I can cant you hear that . I love you, d lemon. You and your whack tie. I love you, brother. You and your same tie. I got to get you a new one. This is cnn tonight. I am don lemon. Listen. CHris is right. We have got a lot of things to talk about. This is an outrage. You should be mad about this. You should be outraged by this, because it is pure gas lighting. The biggest of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/big-lie'>Big Lies actually being defended on, where else, the foxpropaganda network. Tucker carlson, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/night-after'>Night After night, minimizing the intersection at the seat of our government. Even, putting the word insurrection, in quotes, as if it didnt really happen. Watch this. They didnt have guns. But a lot of them had extremely dangerous ideas. They talked about the constitution, and something called their rights. Some of them made openly seditious claims. They insisted, for example, that the last election was not entirely fair. Okay. Thats downplaying it. And he was at it, again, tonight. All, in the service of lies, upon lies. Lies, on top of lies. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/big-lie'>Big Lie, that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden did not win. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/big-lie'>Big Lie, that there was widespreadvoter fraud. There wasnt. But, theyre using that lie to pass new, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jim-crow'>Jim Crow bills across this country. And the new, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/big-lie'>Big Lie that we should forget about the insurrection. Thats what it is. That its no, big deal. Just a bunch of people talking about the constitution and their rights. Its just more Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/riot-denialism'>Riot Denialism from the, from the right. Its just more lies. That, as we are learning tonight, at least one defendant is flipping against the proud boys. The first sign, that people charged in the insurrection are cooperating against the trump extremists. Now, if you want to know why fox and the right have have to pretend that the insurrection didnt happen. If you want to know why, well, of course, its because of the former guy. I like this one. The inciter in chief. The twiceimpeached, oneterm president. Insurrectionstarting president , who never won the popular vote. That they cant shake their devotion to him, and their misguided belief that he holds the key to power. Case in point. Todays endorsement of one of his allies who whipped up the crowd, just before they marched on the capitol. Trump endorsing Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/moe-brooks'>Moe Brooks for senate. Praising his courage, in all caps, and fight, also, in all caps. Fight, really . I want you to remember, okay, because, again, this is all about gas lighting, just flatout lying. And people will start cHris is right. People will start to believe, like, the insurrection never happened. This never happened. None of it. But i want you to remember, this is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/moe-brooks'>Moe Brooks. What he said to that cheering crowd. This is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. Roll it. Today is the day, american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass [ cheers and applause ] now, our ancestors sacrificed their blood, their sweat, their tears, their fortunes, and sometimes, their lives, to give us, their descendants, an america that is the greatest nation in world history. So, i have a question for you. Are you willing to do the same . My answer is, yes. Louder are you willing to do what it takes to fight for america . [ cheers and applause ] louder will you fight for america . Well, there you go, with the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fire-pelosi-pelosi'>Fire Pelosi Pelosi is now the house speaker, by Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-way'>The Way. So, so much for the firepelosi hat. Thats a guy, trump thinks should be a senator . That guy . The guy, who whipped up people, who went on to march on our capitol . Attacking police . Hunting lawmakers . Chanting, hang Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mike-pence'>Mike Pence . Hang Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mike-pence'>Mike Pence hang Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mike-pence'>Mike Pence hang Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mike-pence'>Mike Pence hang Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mike-pence'>Mike Pence so, that, right there, what you just saw. Thats what the propagandanews network. Propaganda network is saying never happened. The formerhouse speaker, john boehner, lashing out at trump in his new book. In very boehnerstyle language. Saying the former president incited that bloody insurrection for nothing more than selfish reasons. That he perpetuated by selfish reasons, perpetuated by and i quote here bullshit he had been shoveling since he lost a fair election, the previous november. A Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/trump-adviser'>Trump Adviser firing back, calling boehner a swamp creature. No matter what lies the right tries to spin, we all saw what happened on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. There is no denying it, no matter how much you try to deny it. No denying it. It was one of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/dark-edest-da'>Dark Edest Da in the history of this country. And no matter how many lies they tell, we all saw it happen, with our own eyes. Funny how, in this country, right, people always want to change history. Rewrite it. Whitewash it. Why is that . Why is that . Fox propaganda . Perhaps, thats a question that you should be doing on your panels. Why is that . A lot more on all of this, tonight. But i want to turn, now, to the big Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/moment-today'>Moment Today in the trial of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/police-officer'>Police Officer, who kneeled on george Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/floyds-neck'>Floyds Neck, for nine and Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/a-half'>A Half minutes. It was about what we heard on that infamous tape today. Not when Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd begged for his life. Not when he called out for his mother. But, about a few seconds, when he said something about drugs. The defense wants you to believe that he said, i ate too many drugs. And at first, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/lead-investigator'>Lead Investigator on the case agreed, until he listened, again. And did you attempt to understand and hear what various parties were saying, at various times . Yes. Do you did you ever hear mr. Floyd say, i ate too many drugs . No. Like to publish exhibit 1007. And im going to ask you, sir, to listen to mr. Floyds voice. Did you hear that . Yes, i did. Did it appear that mr. Floyd said, i ate too many drugs . Yes, it did. Hmm. Okay. But, just a few minutes later, the prosecutor played a longer clip. And the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/officers-answer'>Officers Answer was very different. Prior to the short clip of that you were shown as exhibit 1007. Is the discussion of the officers. In hearing that section of the audio, did that help you to understand what mr. Floyd might have been saying, that you were asked about by counsel . Yes. And, your honor, then, we would ask to play 127 exhibit 127, which is queued up to 20 30, 20 21 where mr. Reyerson was asked about. Please please. Please, i cant breathe. Get on the side dewalk, plea ah. Get his legs up . Nope, just leave him. Yep. Just leave him. All right. Found a pipe. Please, please i cant breathe so, the record should reflect that we played tHrough 20 21 10 with the quote that you were asked about appearing at 20 21 01, correct . Yes. And having heard it in context, are you able to tell what mr. Floyd is saying there . Yes, i believe mr. Floyd was saying, i aint do no drugs. So, thats little different than what you were asked about when you only saw a portion of the video, correct . Yes, sir. Funny, how things work, right . Context, nuance. I aint do no drugs. Thats the opposite of i ate too many drugs. Now, honestly, here, its pretty hard to hear exactly what Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd was saying. After all, this was a man, begging for his life, while Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/derek-chauvin'>Derek Chauvin had his knee on his neck. But, its pretty clear what the defense wants you to think. They want you to think that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd died because of drugs. They want you to, again, deny what you are seeing, with your veryown eyes. Which is the whole thats the whole theme of this entireopening statement that im giving, now. My take. People dont want you to believe what you see with your own eyes. They that means that they think youre dumb. Or theres something wrong with you. Youre not, right . You know what you see with your own eyes. What you saw. You know what you saw on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. You know what you saw on that video. And if you really listen to all of that, in context, you get the gist of what someone saying. Again, its pretty hard to im not denying that its pretty hard. But they want you to ignore, on this tape, nineandahalf minutes of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/derek-chauvin'>Derek Chauvin kneeling on george Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/floyds-neck'>Floyds Neck. And, instead, focus on those few words. And they, also, want you to doubt what you heard Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd saying, over and over, during those nineandahalf minutes. This was clear. I cant breathe. In this particular case, when mr. Floyd was initially saying that he couldnt breathe, he was actively resisting arrest. Initially, when he was in the backseat of the vehicle, yes. Right. And in fact, he was using his legs to push back, and to use his Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/body-weight'>Body Weight to against the officers, right . Yes. And at one point, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/tHree-minneapolis'>THree Minneapolis Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/police-officer'>Police Officers were attempt attempting to get him into the backseat of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/squad-car'>Squad Car from the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/passenger-side'>Passenger Side of the car, correct . Correct. They were not able to do so . No. Now, just remember, that was in the back of the car. On the pavement, handcuffed, behind his back. So, they want you to doubt that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd meant it when he said, i cant breathe. They want you to think that it was just his way of resisting arrest. So, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-big-picture'>The Big Picture here. This is about the defense raising doubt. Doubt about what killed Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd. Doubt about what he did or didnt say about drugs. Doubt about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd saying, i cant breathe. But, think about it, smart people. None of that changes the fact that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd is dead. Dead. After a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/police-officer'>Police Officer kneeled on his neck for nineandahalf, excruciating minutes. Those nineandahalf minutes. Thats what matters here. The video of the insurrection . The people, who were injured . What you see on tape . Thats what matters, there. But in this case, the defense is trying to convince jurors not to believe what they saw. What we all saw, with our own eyes, and heard with our own ears, for those nineandahalf minutes. Youre smarter than that. For minneapolis, and for the capitol insurrection, you did see it. Dont let em gaslight you. They want you to believe that, what happened to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd had nothing to do with the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/police-officer'>Police Officer kneeling on his neck while he was dying. But shouldnt the use of force have stopped when he was cuffed and on the ground . Would you agree with the statement, in your custody, in your care . Yes. What does what does that mean . That means once you take someone into custody, then youre responsible for for their care. Aliens are real, alright. Theres just too much evidence. Kill weeds not the lawn with roundup for lawns products. Gillette proglide. Five blades and a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pivoting-flexball'>Pivoting Flexball designed to get virtually every hair on the first stroke. So youre ready for the day with a fresh face for a fresh start. For a limited time get a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/5th-cartridge'>5th Cartridge free. Ive got the brains youve got the looks lets make lots of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/money-youve'>Money Youve got the brawn ive got the brains lets make lots of uh uh uh oohhh theres a lot of opportunities with allstate, drivers who switched saved over 700. Saving is easy when youre in good hands. Allstate click or call to switch today. Prosecution of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/derek-chauvin'>Derek Chauvin trial, adding to the mounting testimony that chauvin used excessive force against Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd. A Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/useofforce-expert'>Useofforce Expert saying that chauvin used deadly force, by holding his knee on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/floyds-neck'>Floyds Neck for nineandahalf minutes. Or nine minutes and 29 seconds but nineandahalf minutes. Where no force should have been used. So joining me now, cnn senior legal analyst, laura coates. And the former president of the national organization of black Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement executives. Good evening, to both of you. Thank you so much for joining. Laura, the defense, today, trying to argue that floyd was resisting arrest, when he said i cant breathe to officers putting him in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/squad-car'>Squad Car. I want to play more of that, and then we will talk about it. That one of the things that an officer has to do, in the assessment of the reasonableness of his use of force is take, into consideration, what the suspect is saying, and how hes acting. Yes, 100 . Right. So, if somebody is saying, i cant breathe, and theyre passing out and theyre not resisting. Thats one form of an analysis, right . Yes. And in this particular case, when mr. Floyd was initially saying that he couldnt breathe, he was actively resisting arrest. Initially, when he was in the backseat of the vehicle, yes. Okay. So, laura, but once floyd was on the ground, what he said was consistent with his actions. He wasnt resisting. He became nonresponsive. Do you buy the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/defenses-argument'>Defenses Argument . What they are trying to prove, we already know. I mean, the idea here, that an officer is able to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/use-force'>Use Force to restrain or subdue a resisting person is obvious. No one disputes that. The question here, don, is whether you could continue to exert the same level of force you would use, for somebody who is resisting, when they are no longer resisting. When they are no longer breathing. When they are no longer posing any tHreat, whatsoever. This case has never been about whether an officer can, generally, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/use-force'>Use Force. Its about whether an officer has used excessive force, and gone beyond whats reasonable, into the realm of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/criminal-assault'>Criminal Assault by maintaining the application of lethal force, after the person has stopped moving, breathing, and being conscious. You know what i should have asked you . Which is a better do you think the jury bought it . You know, i dont think the jury does buy whats being sold to them, at this point in time. We have no way of knowing. Of course, the jury is comprised of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/human-beings'>Human Beings but they are also comprised of wildcards there. But if we are all in the court of public opinion, watching this, and we are having the same questions theyre probably having there. Why are you bringing this up . Why are you focused on what happened in the back of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/squad-car'>Squad Car when chauvin wasnt, yet, on the scene, at one point . Why do you focus on that aspect, unless youre unless focusing on the part where Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd is actually prone on the ground and handcuffed because, remember, thats the lens, by which this case should be judged. And so, any reference that tries to lose focus and muddy the waters, away, from the actual conduct that the defendant, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/derek-chauvin'>Derek Chauvin, not Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd, is accused of. Jurors must be raising an eyebrow and wondering, why are you mentioning that, defense . So, cedric, even if floyd was resisting arrest, in the beginning, shouldnt the use of force have ended as soon as he stopped resisting . When he was cuffed and laying, face down, on the ground . Absolutely, it should have. And there is no question about that. And as you heard lieutenant stiger, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/useofforce-expert'>Useofforce Expert, is that you use the amount of force necessary. And when that resistance stopped, of course, you stop. But, we all saw we all observed, rather, mr. Floyd, when he went to the ground. And they had him handcuffed. They had him in a prone position. Theyre on top of him. It just was not necessary, any longer, to treat him Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-way'>The Way in which they did. You know, its very important to to to remember, and we hear a lot about this. And and its such an important piece here, don, is that once a person that you arrest is in your custody. Youre surly responsible for them. And you are responsible for for their care during the time that you have them under arrest. And i think what we saw, on may 25th, was something that, certainly, did not demonstrate taking responsibility for another human being. But the defense is trying to to argue that floyd, still, could have been a tHreat. Listen to this, cedric. A person, whos in handcuffs, can continue to be a tHreat. Agreed . Yes. They can kick you. Correct. They can bite you. Correct. They can tHrash and get free, and start running, right . In certain instances, right. And in certain instances, they can even get your weapon, right . Yes. So, cedric, we have all seen the video. He wasnt resisting, when chauvin was kneeling on his neck. Was floyd a tHreat, at that point . No, and the defense is really making a real stretch, here. Because certainly, we know, once we have someone subdued, at that level, usually, we have them under control. And even even if they continued to resist, we still apply what we were taught in the academy. And in inservice training. You use the level of force thats necessary. The defense here is just stretching. They are trying to create some doubt. But i think that people, when they watch that video, that jury and and thats what really matters right now. What the jury sees and perceives, in all of this. Theyre going to see right tHrough this. Its its its there was no resistance here. Yeah. Laura, i want to you saw the exchange that we talked about. Earlier, about the, i ate too many drugs or i aint do drugs. Does that get to the point with this with this case is all act . I mean, you know, taking things out of context . Is the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/defense-overplaying'>Defense Overplaying . What did you make of that moment . Well, first of all, you know, you dont want to lose your jury, in terms of being able to engage them. You, also, dont want to lose your jury in terms of making selfinflicted wounds that makes you looked like you tried to pull an okeydoke on people, by giving slivers, noncontextualized portions that are, later, found to be, oh, wait. Now, that ive heard it again, that actually is not whats being said. And im sure the defense was able to hear the full breadth of that particular clip and was able to lead make its own conclusions, at that. So, the jury is watching this, and begins to start to doubt the people who are trying to plant the seeds of reasonable doubt. But, remember, i have to focus people on this case because its not about whether this indiscernible audio by Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd about whether he didnt use drugs or he ate drugs. The real issue here comes down to two questions. Number one, why did Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/derek-chauvin'>Derek Chauvin use an unreasonable amount of lethal, nonproportional, unnecessary force, after somebody was rendered neutralized . And number two, even if Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/derek-chauvin'>Derek Chauvin believed that there was some, alternative source of the physical distress that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-floyd'>George Floyd was enduring. Well, why didnt he render the care thats required if they are in your custody . Imagine, if he was in a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/jail-cell'>Jail Cell and had gone into cardiac arrest. Do we want our jail guards to go, oh, well, i didnt cause that. Therefore, let the person go. And and see as they fit. You wouldnt do that. So he is in the custody, in handcuffs. Its the same thing. Before before i let you go, i have to i cant let you go, without saying something about our friend, laura. Charles. Who, sadly, passed away, we found out, overnight. He was on this show. A frequent contributor, on this show, and on other networks. She was a friend to the show. And she was, often, appeared with you, laura, where she talked about legal issues. She was an attorney and our hearts go out to her family. And im not sure if you knew her, cedric. But we knew her and we loved her, and i just wanted to you want to say a few words, laura . Well, i just you know, i respected her, a great deal. And im just devastated that a 47yearold has lost her life. We dont know all the details. But her family, im sure, is reeling, as her friends and her Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/loved-ones'>Loved Ones are. And it was her mind, it was her analysis, it was her pep. H her whit and i have it oh tell you it is such a sad thing. Cedric, laura, thank you so much. We really appreciate it. Rest in peace, our dear friend. Well be right back. You build a flexible plan for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/cash-flow'>Cash Flow that lasts, even when youre not working, so you can go from saving. To living. Lets go the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/harrys-razor'>Harrys Razor is not the same. 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He is saying that he is not going to vote to weaken the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/senate-filibuster'>Senate Filibuster in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/washington-post-oped'>Washington Post Oped. And he says this, and i quote. Senate democrats must avoid the temptation to abandon our republican colleagues, on important, national issues. Republicans, however, have a responsibility to stop saying no and participate in finding real compromise with democrats. So, gloria, weve known his feelings on the filibuster. But Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-manchin'>Joe Manchin seems to be the only person, living in this kumbayasenate world that he is describe its, like, a 1950s leaveittobeaver world. Were not in that world, anymore. Its maybe, im wrong. We are not. No, you are right. Were not in that world. I think, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden would join him, in that perfect world. From decades ago, when, perhaps, it used to work that way. And sometimes, it did. And sometimes, it didnt. But thats not life, right now. I think, with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-manchin'>Joe Manchin stating, yet again, im not going to move. Im not going to amend. Im not going to change. Im just going to say im were not going to do anything with the filibuster. That means, for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden, it means he needs ten republicans for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/voting-rights'>Voting Rights. It puts the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/minimum-wage'>Minimum Wage, increase to the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/minimum-wage'>Minimum Wage in danger. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/dream-act'>Dream Act in danger. Sort of, large legislation, like, universalbackground checks, in danger. So, this is not news good news for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden. And it puts Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/manchin-right'>Manchin Right where he wants to be, which is at the center of everything. But its at you said he needs ten republicans in the gloria, is that ever going to happen . He would need yeah. I i mean, well, you know, well well have to see. I would hope. But in a way, and it well, but, in a way, there is one thing this does for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden, thats not terrible. And, that is, progressives who want more of what Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-biden'>Joe Biden is proposing. Biden can now say to them, i cant. In order to get anything tHrough, i need Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-manchin'>Joe Manchin. So, in that sense, it might work for him. But in the larger sense, its a real problem. Listen, charlie, for the country. And, listen. I people know this. Voting rights. That its important for our democracy. Does Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-manchin'>Joe Manchin really want to go down, as the guy who held up the votingrights act . Who restricted voting for people in this country . Poor people. People of color. Does he want to go down, as that guy . Well, i think, its a bit unfair to put this all an Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/joe-manchin'>Joe Manchin. I happen to agree with him on the filibuster. I witnessed when republicans were in control. Listening to the most the most extreme voices in republican conference in the house, at the time, demanding that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mitch-mcconnell'>Mitch Mcconnell eliminate the pfilibuster. This is always coming from the extreme voices because they wanted to jam very harshpartisan legislation that would not be sustainable or durable. And i think the democrats know, in their guts, that this is not a good thing. The problem isnt the rules. The problem is the members, who dont have the capacity for compromise. They dont see a political reward. They dont see a political reward for compromise. Thats why they dont do it. With or without a filibuster. Same with the thats thats the harsh reality. Their political safety is tacking hard to the bases, thats why they do it. Its not about the filibuster. Charlie, i dont disagree with you. I i agree with you, everything you said, except its not about the filibuster. Because it is about the filibuster because you are never going to get republicans to move. And the only way you are going to get the legislation done is if you maybe, there is an exemption to the filibuster. But something as important as Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/voting-rights'>Voting Rights. That is thats the only way you are going to get it because republicans are not going to come over. What you are saying, you you you saying hang on. I promise you, im going to let you finish. You, saying that, you know, there is nopolitical reward. Thats why youre never going to get any. So, maybe, on this one issue, there has to be some Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sort-of'>Sort Of compromise, when it comes to the filibuster. Maybe, not get rid of it. But some Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sort-of'>Sort Of compromise. Go ahead. I promised id let you finish. Don, i just got to say, look. I was in congress in 2004 with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/george-bush'>George Bush as president. Republican house, republican senate. And, you know, we passed a reauthorization of the 1965 Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/voting-rights'>Voting Rights act. We did it, in spite of a filibuster, the act, itself, was passed and it overcame the filibuster because it had a consensus in the country to do something. I think they can get some reforms on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/voting-rights'>Voting Rights. I really do. I agree, there are all kinds of problems with the georgia law. Some of the problems are overstated, to be candid. The motivation of the republicans was bad but they can certainly come to some agreements on this stuff. Certainly, they could do it on infrastructure. They could have done it on the most recent covid bill. Hell, they did four or five before on a bipartisan basis. So i think its doable. But what year was that . Im not im not being facetious. 2006, you said . 2006. Im going to give you the last word. But go ahead, gloria. Go on. That was a long time ago. But i want to agree with with charlie on this. That i i think that part of the problem is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-way'>The Way we elect members of congress. Uhhuh. And they are all afraid of being primaried, on the right. The republicans are afraid of donald trump. And if we had different kinds of primaries, where it wasnt winner take all and it wasnt a jungle primary in the senate. They wouldnt be that afraid of what was going to happen to them, because then theyd have to face a runoff. So if we found different ways to elect people, in primaries, they would not be so afraid. But, gloria, by the time you do that, the voting by the time you do that, this whole issue about the you know, about the the about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/voting-rights'>Voting Rights will be over. And yes. And done. Im talking longterm. Yeah. I am i am i am talking longterm, if you want to look at the at Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/the-big-picture'>The Big Picture. You have to look down the road. I know, you know, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-obama'>President Obama is talking about how you elect people, in the house. And you dont have gerrymandered districts. You know, you try and make the districts more like the country, and you dont draw them politically in the house. So, its a process. Its a very long process. Yeah. But right now, its not working. God, i had so much to talk to you guys about. But anyways, thank you for putting up with my but i love these conversations with you guys. Thank you, both. I will see you soon. Be well. Thank you so much. Thank you, don. Sure. Byebye. New worries about coronavirus spreading among children. Were going to tell you whats causing the increase, and how you can keep your family safe. Thats next. Forget what your smokinghot moms and teachers say, just remember my motto. If you aint first. Youre last woohoo so you want to make the best burger ever . Then make it that means cooking Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/day-and-night'>Day And Night until. [ ding ] success that means. Best burger ever. Intuit quickbooks helps small businesses be more successful with payments, payroll, and banking. Dignity. This thing you can neither see nor measure. But that demands the return of small Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/moments-illness'>Moments Illness attempts to steal. 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Walensky said about clusters of cases in daycare, as well as school sports, particularly team sports. Which people engage in close contact, without masks. I think that is what is explaining these surges of cases in young individuals. Driven by the variant. So lets talk about this with director of the center of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/childhealth-behavior'>Childhealth Behavior and development in seattle. Seattles childrens hospital. Thank you, so much. I really appreciate you joining us, doctor. This is some serious stuff here because these new cases are spiking among young adults and children. Thats according to one report by the american academy of pediatrics. There were over excuse me 63,000 new cases of covid19, among kids last week, alone. Is this due to variants . What whats going on . Well, you know, its a little bit of a perfect storm, don. What we have here his a situatin where we have many variants. The dominant one or emergingdominant one in the united states is the b. 1. 1. 7 the socalled uk variant. Thats rising. Its more contagious. Maybe, 30 more contagious. We also have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sort-of'>Sort Of a false sense of security, because Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/case-counts'>Case Counts have been falling as we have vaccinated older people. We have nonvaccinated, young people, which, as dr. Fauci said, are still susceptible to this virus. And we have pandemic fatigue, right . Were all, you know, 14, 15 months into this, sick and tired of not getting back to our lives. We think we see the light at the end of the tunnel. We do see the light at the end of the tunnel. And were really eager to let our guard down. You know, if i may use a sports metaphor. A football metaphor, if you will. You know, we have been getting our butts kicked, against this virus, for tHreequarters of this game. Were in the fourth quarter, now. Were making a serious comeback. We will win this game, but were at the twominute warning. And we cant spike the football, yet. We have to stay focused on on winning the game. And then, we will. Whatever analogy you can make, that if it helps people get it that they have to be safe, we will take it. Seriously. So, listen, i want to talk about pfizer announcing last week that their vaccine is 100 effective in Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/kids-age'>Kids Age 12 to 15. They plan to submit their data to the fda for emergency approval. They are going to do that soon, in the coming weeks. How far away are we come getting kids vaccinated . What is the timeline . Its a really good question. I havent seen their data and there is a whole process that has to go tHrough, to get emergencyuse authorization. I i have every reason to believe that, in that age, the vaccine probably will be safe and effective. One of the challenging things about pediatrics, which is what i practice, is that we draw these Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sort-of'>Sort Of artificial distinctions between what makes a child an adult. And we, historically, have done it at 18. And said that, when you become 18, now you are an adult. And adult data apply and not pediatric data. 16, obviously, is more like 18. 14 is more like 16. I think, the vaccine probably will be safe, in kids that age. I dont know about younger children. Because they are, clearly, a very different phenomenon. But its not just about when the vaccine is declared safe. The bigger issue is when its available, and when its being widely distributed. The truth is that, i think, that, come fall, young children in particular, will not be vaccinated. And there will be circulating covid amongst them. 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