Another woman that the prosecutor identified, and then they obviously, the judge had to identify her simply as to how she was dressed. Her name hasnt been put in the record yet but Genevieve Hanson who we know from Opening Statements was a firefighter who came up on the scene who repeatedly said check his pulse, please check his pulse. Why is it so important . Again, you have one witness saying this other witness arrived, she asked to check his pulse, not just once, but repeatedly and she described officer chauvin who she said number one did in the check his pulse and in her view, her eyewitness view, started to lean even harder, kneel even harder. Simple answer, there is strength in numbers. And corroboration is the key for any successful prosecution. Even if the evidence is quite clear, even if the verbal responses youre hearing are obvious and audible you still do need to understand that there are jurors here and jurors need to have that strength in number. Of course theres quantity, and then theres quality. Arguably the nine minutes and 20 plus second video is the star witness in all of this trial but the idea of having it come in through the Vantage Point of different people. Notice, youve got now a dispatcher, somebody who is well versed and has a lot of understanding about how Police Operations work, they probably seen or heard a great deal in being a 911 dispatcher that person said something was not right. My gut told me something was not right, and brought in a sergeant. You have somebody who is an mma fighter, who is familiar with submission holds, and even him watching it said, in my personal experience, not as an expert, im not called as an expert, im seeing something awry. Im pleading for somebodys life. Youve got a child who is watching it, who is supposed to be a public servant. I remember the days of growing up in minnesota and having the d. A. R. E. Officer coming in, known as officer friendly because you were told to turn to an officer, a peace officer, they will help you. A child watching this and saying that she feels threatened by an officer, and other officers are grabbing their mace and grabbing at their mace when people are coming at them to try to save a life. Then youve got somebody else, another public servant, john, a firefighter who, of course, as you know if you dial 911 youre getting the police. Youre getting the fire truck. Youre getting the emt ambulance. That person comes, sees whats going on and says, more than once, youve got to take a pulse, and that person is shooed away. From every different angle as a prosecutor you are appealing to the common sense of a diverse spectrum of jurors, each of which are telling you not only did this person see something wrong but all of these people and still more to come, all had the same theme, thats the kind of corroboration you dont find every day. Laura stand by for one second. I want to come back to that point of how you put the pieces together as you move through all this but i also want to get perspective from Cnns Omar Jimenez who is there in minneapolis right now outside the courthouse. The morning testimony. Omar, day two of testimony in the chauvin trial, your major takeaways so far on this day. Reporter well right now john were in the middle of a tenminute break, well be back in just about ten minutes. When you look at the takeaways from this what youre seeing is really the story of what happened on may 25th, 2020 as being told through the eyewitnesses that were there that day obviously we saw the second half of the testimony from Donald Williams begin Witness Testimony today and that was maybe the most Contentious Exchange we have seen over the course of this entire trial so far, particularly when they got to the crossexamination portion of this and Defense Attorney for Derek Chauvin eric nelson was trying to ask was trying to ask williams about the terms that he was calling Derek Chauvin that day, the terms and what and the visuals that he was seeing as that was unfolding. And to which williams just kept saying, well, have you seen the video . Have you seen the video . Watch the video, watch the video. Eventually he just said i said what i said, and left it at that. There were multiple objections that happened there. So clearly there was a bit of contention is probably the best word to describe it and then after williams was over he moved to an eyewitness who is appearing by audio only. Thats because right before we got into Witness Testimony today the judge ruled that these next four witnesses were under 18 at the time of this death so they are appearing by audio only but identified only by her first name in this trial is darnella, she shot this infamous Cell Phone Video thats now seen throughout the world, and in many ways the real spark and the record for why this became such a huge story. And one of the more moving moments, even though you couldnt see her face, was when she was asked to identify Derek Chauvin sitting in the courtroom and whether he was the same man she saw that day kneeling on the neck of george floyd, and you could hear the tears in her voice as she eventually confirmed that this was the same man. This is something that has had a tremendous impact on her as you can imagine at such a young age and the main thing to Pay Attention to here is this story is being told through the eyes of the people that were there. Eyes of the people who were there, just a few feet away and you mentioned the emotional testimony, also just compelling testimony and calm testimony as she resuscitates what she remembers from that day. Omar jimenez outside of the courtroom, appreciate that. Lets bring in our conversation, cedric alexander, the former president of the National Organization of black Law Enforcement executives. Cedric, it is good to see you. As we watched the testimony unfold laura coates was talking about a few moments ago the compelling point the prosecution is trying to build is that, you know, whatever happened before, yes the defense will say that mr. Floyd tried to pass a counterfeit bill, that mr. Floyd declined two opportunities to go back in and make amends, if you will, to pay in real cash, that mr. Floyd, the defense said yesterday, was high, that mr. Floyd struggled with the Police Officers before the nine minutes and 29 seconds where he is handcuffed, he is prone. Officer chauvin is kneeling on his neck. The compelling point the prosecution is making now with witness after witness is that this crowd start today gather and that several members of this crowd asked, please help, take his pulse, do something, get up, hes in distress, and that the officers on the scene, not just mr. Chauvin, the others as well, ignored the crowd. How important is that to the Prosecution Case . Well, i think its very important because as laura pointed out youre going to consistently see these type of witnesses that are all going to corroborate the story, but in addition to that youve got millions of viewers around this country and around the world who have seen the same story unfold in realtime during that particular day on may 25th, 2020. Let me tell you this, john, as a former Police Officer on the streets across this country, and many Police Officers i have spoke to, we all have been in a position where we had to wrestle someone in a crowd comes around and they stand around. And certainly nothing to the point of what we are witnessing now. But the point is this, you know i keep hearing this whole story about they felt threatened. That was not a threatening crowd. And i think that officers across this country will tell you that was not a threatening crowd. You had a crowd there that were passers by who happened to see there is something very disturbing to them going on as lay people and as they stood there for the duration of the time that they were there, they saw a man gasping for air, begging for air, begging for his mother, and who appeared to them to go unconscious, and even through their begging of officer chauvin to stop, there was just no show of humanity whatsoever on the part of chauvin from what we see from that video. And youre going to continue to see those stories, one behind the other, because its very clear in this Crystal Clear to a number of people that the lack of humanity and moral compass here was on full display, and unfortunately the good officers across this country are going to have to live with this. I appreciate your point about the good officers across this country. And to that point, to that point, lets listen to a little bit of Donald Williams in this hes being reexamined by the prosecution by the im sorry, yes, by the prosecution, Matthew Frank here, that he makes the point, he is there, he admits he was frustrated. He did not like the term angry but he said, yes, he was using some tough words against the officers because they kept refusing entreaties from him and others, to get up, to let up and to do something to check the pulse. Listen to him describing the decision he made after this all played out. Any time during the action did you see officer chauvin take his knee off of mr. Floyds neck . No. Okay. When the ambulance arrived did he do that . No, i believe i witnessed a murder. And so you felt a need to call the police . I felt the need to call the police. Cedric alexander, that last part there, again its compelling Eyewitness Testimony from a man who was just a few feet away but i felt the need to call the police on the police. Stunning. Yes, it is. But it further indicates that he nor anyone else in that crowd took aggressive action, instead of doing anything, even in all the emotions, everything they had been witnessing now for minutes he decided to dial 911. He needed to do something. And he did exactly what he was trained to do but unfortunately at this time he had to call 911 on those Police Officers who should have been there preserving the life once that he went unconscious, mr. Floyd went unconscious, but clearly even at that point saw nothing take place. Cedric alexander, laura coates staying with us, quick break, theres a break in the trial of officer chauvin. Much more of this trial coming up after this very quick break. Stay with us. Limu emu doug excuse me maam, did you know that Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need . Thank you hey, hey, no, no, no limu, no limu only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Welcome back, john king in washington, waiting for the resumption of testimony in this day two of the trial of the former minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin, chauvin charged in the death of george floyd back in may. On the stand right now testimony to resume after this break a now 18yearold young woman we are identifying only by the initials df, who was front and center, a few feet away, who had her cell phone out and who shot the now infamous video thats been seen around the world of the george floyd killing, the death of george floyd on the streets of minneapolis back in may. Lets bring in our cnn analyst laura coates. We are in the early days of this trial. 1 1 2 days of testimony. The prosecution as we discussed methodically calling in eyewitnesses to recreate the scene, to recreate what the Prose Prosecutor S said yesterday, this is a homicide. The witness just turned 18, df is how were identifying her. They showed a Prosecution Exhibit and its powerful to show it, just to show this crowd, half dozen or so people, standing just a few feet away from the police cruiser. You can see officer chauvin from behind, the back of his head, his knee on the neck of george floyd. Walk us through this, how central is this witness . We wont see her because the cameras not on her in the courtroom because of her age but she has brought compelling testimony but the most riveting piece of evidence in this case. Theres that old saying of out of the mouths of babes, you think about the truth, well youre talking about what the perspective and Vantage Point of this particular witness is. Youre not talking about anybody whos an interested party, not somebody with the baggage that you might have of other eyewitnesses who might come along, the ideas of what their records might be, or having that person somehow be placed on trial even though we know that Derek Chauvin is the one on trial. It will be very hard for the Defense Attorneys to try to undermine and discredit her testimony here, and also it goes to the idea of corroboration here, you may be able to, through the course of the trial, attack different aspects as one credibility. How do you do this one . And the jurors, and the prosecution is going to call into question and making sure that everyone has this lingering question on their minds. What would it have taken for Derek Chauvin to check the pulse of george floyd . What would it have taken for Derek Chauvin to take his knee off the neck of george floyd . What would it have taken for him to respond to the cries for help from a man who was handcuffed and prone, but also all the different bystanders who were also begging for the same thing . What would it have taken . The question is, why did he choose not to . The defense is going to try to scapegoat this case and try to look at, say, a Donald Williams and talk about maybe his lack of expertise as an expert in the court context. Theyre going to talk about other witnesses, about their Vantage Point or try to undermine what the dispatcher may know about submission holds but it comes down to the question of what the officers knew and should have known. Its a really important point to make here, john. Officers are absolutely entitled to use force, absolutely. The question is, for how long, and are you able to do so in a reasonable manner after the use of force is no longer necessary . Youre talking about that spectrum, that time continuum here, that timeline here, john, and unless the defense can show the case that after this particular victim george floyd unconscious, not breathing, no pulse, unless they can show somehow that that was a threat to the officers, and a need for the use of any force, let alone excessive force, theyre going to have a more than an uphill battle. It will be herculean for them to overcome this presentation of evidence. And to that point, and laura forgive were expecting the trial to resume any minute. If i have to interrupt you, i apologize in advance. You mentioned strength in numbers. The half dozen or so eyewitnesses standing a few feet away and the prosecution, each of them may be compelling and people at home might be saying you have that testimony, why do you need it from another person who is right there and another person who was right there and the other person who is a few feet away and you see the image right here. The witness were hearing from right df is the woman in the blue pants, holding her cell phone, she was going to cup foods with her young cousin in the green sweatshirt next to her. You see mr. Williams right there in the black sweatshirt there, the hoodie with his maa, the boxing club sweatshirt. Each of these witnesses coming forward, to your point, trying to make the case that they were all standing right tlrks they all heard mr. Floyd pleading, please let me breathe. I cant breathe. Please let me breathe and they all are testifying that not only officer chauvin, but the other officers on the scene were in this is my word, not theirs, but indifferent, indifferent to their pleas for help. As a prosecutor, again, just help connect the Building Blocks of why its so important to hear it, not just once, not just twice but maybe five or six times. Absolutely. I mean, one of the techniques of an effective prosecutor is primacy and recentsy. People remember the first thing they heard which is why the Opening Statements are so impactful, and recency. These themes are going to be a part of the trial to stick in the jurors mind. What did i hear . What was that theme . Primacy and recency . What did i know and how many times did i hear it . The more they hear it the better off they are at retention. Thats what theyre going to go for here. And so when you talk about the different witnesses its also a matter of the general preference of jurors. Now theyre human beings so theyre going to have likes and dislikes, preferences for people and others. Some people are going to resonate with, i see myself in that witness. That could have been me as the victim. Or i see myself in the approach of how that bystander operated. I too would have been shouting angry things. I may have also used these words. Would i have been as restrained . Not to somehow go and try to to rip an officer off. People will of to answer that for themselves. Thats why you want to give a potpourri of choices for the jurors, people they can resonate with, the redundancy of it all, the repetition, and also these themes of primacy and recency and the overarching question for these jurors, theyre probably listening and saying why didnt you just get off . Or why didnt you check a pulse . Why didnt you just do the bare minimum of Service People would expect . And from each different Vantage Point jurors are seeing themselves through these people but of course the role of the defense will be i want you to see yourself through the eyes of Derek Chauvin, through the eyes of the other officers here. What was he thinking . What was his training . What was the protocol . Why didnt the other officers remove him . Yeah, a firefighter said to take a pulse. Yeah, a child did. Yeah, you had other people around. But the other officers didnt act and thats why the power dynamic thats at play is important here. Remember, these were his trainees in part. You have to think about all these different data. But the three officers are not a part of this trial for this reason. And let me follow up on that point. Mr. Chauvin is entitled to the best defense, any defendant in america is. And you watch his attorney come forward here, and at one point he was talking to mr. Williams about Mixed Martial Arts and how in most cases you fight to your weight, if you will, and my inference there was hes trying to make the point down the road that george floyd was this large strong man and officer chauvin felt outmatched because of his size and thats why he did that. In a vacuum, makes perfect sense except mr. Floyd was handcuffed, face down, three other officers on the scene and an ambulance arrived at one point. So i get the piece of it, i guess from a prosecutor, but just speak if you were the Defense Lawyer why is that . Do you think that is a grain that perhaps can be put to useful use down the road or is it fishing . He planted that seed in his opening statement. I remember taking notes. He said look, Derek Chauvin was 59, 140 pounds. Hes saying george floyd with 63, 223 pounds. This was not an easy struggle. Forgetting the very basic thing youre talking about, the power dynamic shifts when youre talking about somebody handcuffed, prone and unconscious at that point in time with no pulse, that is the definition of an easy struggle, a definition of an easy suspect. However, if im the defense team, remember, the branch that i am clinging to is that i use reasonable force because i was anticipating that i had force being used against me. Or as he questioned mr. Williams, he asked the question, have you ever had a time when somebody has been, you know, needing to be tapped out, essentially, and your mma fights, mma are revitalized in some way, ve vooif and had they come back and attack. He was painting the picture that the concern for Derek Chauvin and the reason he remained on George Floyds neck was because he was concerned about having this person revive in some way and present an issue for selfdefense. Now, that to me sounded quite unpersuasive given the fact that you have three other officers there, you also had a man that was unconscious and of course you had an ambulance that was there and he still had not moved his neck. But what youre trying to do is plant these seeds of doubt. Plant these moments of, oh, well then, you know, an officer perhaps is trying to anticipate the need to restrain and is being proactive, not vindictive and a murderer. Laura coates, thank you for your perspective. Take you to the continued testimony of the trial of former officer Derek Chauvin. How did you see him respond and react to the crowds calling out to him . What did you see him do . He just stared at us, looked at us. He had like this cold look, heartless. He didnt care. It seemed as if he didnt care what we were saying. It didnt change anything he was doing. In response to what you and the other bystanders were saying did you see him do anything differently to the body of george floyd . Can you re well, ill just ask you the question, yes. In response to what the crowd was doing or saying did you see him at any time kneel in harder on george floyd in response . Yes. Incidentally do you see mr. Chauvin in the courtroom . Yes. Could you please point him out . Right there. For the record shes pointing to mr. Chauvin, thank you. Now you had at some point told us you were there when the the ambulance came. Yes. Did mr. Chauvin get off of mr. Floyd when the ambulance arrived . No, the Ambulance Person had to actually tell him to lift up. So the ambulance arrives. And does an Ambulance Person get out right away and come over to ask mr. Chauvin to lift up or did Something Else happen after that . He checked his pulse first while chauvins knee still remained on George Floyds neck. All right. So the paramedic checks his pulse with mr. Chauvin still on his neck. Then what happens after that . The paramedic was he did like a motion like get up, telling him, basically telling him to remove his knee, his knee was still there. Even when they came, even at the end. Even unresponsive. And did mr. Chauvin get up at that time then . Yes. All right. As you were observing the entire scene did you observe mr. Floyd do anything that you felt was threatening to any of the Police Officers . No. Did you see him do anything other than call out in anguish . No, besides me trying to get more comfortable, no. Do you feel well, let me ask the question differently. When you arrived at the scene you heard mr. Floyd crying out, you told us. Yes, from afar. At some point during the period of time when he was under mr. Chauvins knees did you see him go unconscious. Yes. Did you hear any discussion about whether or not he had, in fact, died . No. Did you have when the paramedics came they picked up his body, they took his body from the scene. Yes. Did they revive him there . No. Did you ever see him conscious again when he left the scene, before he left the scene . No. Incidentally the photograph here of the bystanders, the exhibit 184 thats in front of you, did the bystanders for the most part stay there on the sidewalk where they were . For the most part, yes. If they stepped at all into the if they stepped at all into the street, was an officer there telling them to get back . Yes. Did you see that the bystanders complied with what the officer was asking them . Yes. Yoour honor, i pass the witness. Ms. Mills. Mr. Nelson. Thank you, good morning, maam. Good morning. Thank you for being here. Just have a few questions for you, okay. Okay. You testified that when you first came up to Cup Foods You heard you initially heard what was being said by mr. Floyd. Right . Yes. And you sent your cousin into the store and you never went into Cup Foods Yourself, right . Correct. You turned around and you pretty much right away from the time you sent your cousin in to the store right away started recording, right . Correct. And ultimately you recorded interest that point all the way until shortly after the paramedics came and left. Right . Correct. All right. And so its fair to say that prior to well, as you approached them, mr. Floyd was already in that position, right . Yes. He was on the ground . Yes. And anything that happened prior to that you wouldnt be privy to or know what happened, right . Correct. But you and so what we saw from your video that has been played was roughly ten minutes of time. Agreed . Agree. And throughout the course of your time that you were recording you can you would agree that when we watched the video there are times we can hear your voice. Right . Correct. And we can hear the voices of the other people, the bystanders, so to speak, right . Yes. And i believe that you said there were about 12 by the end there were about 12 to 14 people that were standing kind of right there on the sidewalk. Right . Correct. Were you also observing people across the street . No. Were you observing people like down on the other side of 38th . No. Mainly focused on what i was seeing. Right. You would agree that that intersection is a fairly busy intersection, lots of traffic . Certain days, yes, it could be. Yeah. I mean, at times, right . Yes. Its a bus route, theres buses coming by. Theres been multiple times its been empty, though, as well, but yeah. Understood, right, but its a busier intersection its in the middle of the city. Right . Its compared to like in a neighborhood, like where theres all houses, more traffic there, right . Yes. And, in fact, in your video we can actually see a lot of cars driving by because this was, you know, a nice spring night, right . Yes. And so your video, in other words, sort of speaks for itself, what we see on it is what you were watching as you watched it . Correct. Okay. You were interviewed by, i believe, a couple of bureau of Criminal Apprehension agents early on in the case. Right . Who . The bca, bureau of Criminal Apprehension, they came and took a statement from you . Yes. Okay. The fbi . Well, was there an fbi agent lets call them Law Enforcement. All right . There were a couple of Law Enforcement agents that interviewed you . Closer to the situation, yes. There was two i believe two white guys, im not sure if they were white but they looked white, but yes, closer to the situation, yes. Right. You met with them, you provided them your cell phone and you yes. Allowed them to copy the video from your cell phone for purposes of their investigation, right . Yes. And at that time they took a statement from you. Would you agree with that . Yes. And you understand that that statement was recorded, right . Yes. Okay. Now, i dont want to misphrase what you said before, but i thought i heard you say that you were aware that there were four officers on the scene when you walked up . No, i didnt see the other officers until the end. And when i seen when everything blowed up i seen different angles. Thats when i figured out it was two other it was, yeah, two other officers on george floyd when he was laying on the ground. The question being, though, however, as you were filming it, you were not aware that those other two officers were there . No, only officer i seen was chauvin and officer thao. Right, and those are the two that you primarily had sbraks with officer thao, right . Yes. And you testified that officer chauvin didnt say very much. Right . Yes. But its also fair to say that you couldnt necessarily hear whether those other officers were speaking to mr. Chauvin . Object, your honor, its assuming facts that are not established. Overruled, you can answer if you know. Do you want him to ask the question again . I heard him. No, i did not hear the other officers. Right. And its also fair to say that when you first started recording you were one of the few people that were there. Right . I was the first person to record, the first person yeah, sure. And by the end of the video there were more people present . Yes. And would you agree that initially when you started recording you werent saying much, if anything, to the officers. Right . I dont remember. But as time went on, and more people showed up, voices became louder. Would you agree with that . As we understood more of what was happening. And its i just want what we seen is how we reacted. Right. Like you said the video speaks for itself. Understood and i appreciate that. So you heard various people calling the officers names, right . Yes. And the volume of the people in that were bystanders grew louder over time. Would you agree with that . Yes, more so as he was becoming more unresponsive unresponsive. And more people also started speaking at the same time. Right . Yes. So we had you said there were 12 to 14 people i rearound that. Around that number. I think i counted 12 in the picture. Okay. And several of them were speaking. Would you agree with that . Yes. And several of them were yelling . Yes. And they were becoming more and more upset, based upon what they saw . Correct. Do you remember officer thao saying to you, if you can breathe you can breathe if you can talk. Yes. Now, in addition to in addition to your initial interview with Law Enforcement officers you also met with the Prosecution Team a couple of times in preparation for trial. Right . Who would that be . Mr. Black well and a host of others, correct . Yes. And you were you grew up in the nearby neighborhood, right . Im from here. I grew up near the suburbs. Okay. But you were, at the time, living at the time id been there for years, yes, correct. For how many years did you say . Maybe five plus. Okay. And you attended Roosevelt High School at the time . Yes. And you testified that you felt safe, you know, walking to the store actually, sorry, at the time of this im not sure if i attended roosevelt because i was in the process of switching schools. Okay. I think it was during the pandemic, right . And so everybody kind of had all the sudden you had to study from home kind of a thing . I was already in the other school, so yes. You testified that youve walked to cup Foods Hundreds if not thousands of times . Correct. And that you felt safe doing so. Anytime of the night, i would walk there. Okay. Would you agree that you had previously told members of the Prosecution Team that at night the neighborhood can be a little bit more dangerous. Some nights. I mean, wasnt really known for violence like every night, or a lot, a lot. But i feel like any area has some type of crime. Sure. From here and there. Sure, understood. Im not trying to disparage the neighborhood. Im just asking what you had told the prosecution before. All right. All right. You ultimately ended up posting your video to social media. Right . Correct. And it went viral. Correct. And was that a surprise to you . Definitely. Changed your life, right . Your honor, object, its beyond the scope. Overruled. Are you asking me . Yes, it changed your life . It has. Your honor, i have no further questions for this witness. Any redirect . Yes, your honor. Mr. Blackwell. Darnella, you had just been asked questions about the safety of your neighborhood at night. On may 25th, when you were there, were you there at cup foods at night . No. The sun was out, you could see fine . Correct. You were also asked whether or not you were aware of what people were across the street from where the officers were, what people were on the other side of 38th street. Remember mr. Nelson asking you about that . Correct. Did you see anybody from across the street or from 38th street do anything to either attack or threaten mr. Chauvin . No. And do you think if somebody came across the street to attack or threat en mr. Chauvin, you had your camera going, you would have recorded it. Correct . Now he asked some questions about, again, the bystanders who were there, and he talked with you about that. Those bystanders. Did you see a single thing that indicated to you that mr. Chauvin was afraid of you, your little cousin, or a single one of the bystanders . No. You were asked about cars on the streets. There are cars and cars and cars going. Did you notice, was mr. Chauvin trying to get out of the way of cars . No. You were also asked about what the officers might have been saying to mr. Chauvin. Correct. Do you remember talking about that . Yes. Did you hear any officers tell mr. Chauvin that mr. Floyd didnt have a pulse . No. You didnt hear them say anything . No. And you were also asked questions about how as the events went on on may 25th how you and others may have gotten louder. Correct. Darnella, are you the sort of person who in response to somebody being potentially harmed on the street gets louder . Im more of a i bottle things up. I feel things inside. I dont i have social anxiety. So its really, its really out of my comfort zone to really be that out person. But, you know, when i seen what i saw at moments i was loud. Loud in response to what you say . Correct. Now, mr. Nelson asked you a few questions about your video going viral and how thats changed your life. Remember that at the end . Yes. Would you tell the ladies and gentlemen how your viewing, experiencing what happened to george floyd has affected your life . When i look at george floyd i look at i look at my dad. I look at my brothers. I look at my cousins, my uncles. Because they are all black. I have a black father. I have a black brother. I have black friends. And i look at that and i look at how that could have been one of them. Its been nights ive stayed up apologizing and apologizing to george floyd for not doing more and not physically interacting and not saving his life. But its like its not what i should have done. Its what he should have done. He should have youve answered, thank you. All right. Did you finish your answer, darnella . She finished her answer. Anymore questions . No. All right, thank you, you may step down. I can leave . You can leave, thank you. All right, next witness for the state is coming . All right. Onjohn king in washington. Darnell, we are not identifying her fully, df are her initials, the state is bringing up its next witness. Laura coates is with us. Ill apologize in advance if i have to interrupt you if the testimony resumes. Quite compelling testimony, from one of the eyewitnesses, infamous, famous because her video, her Cell Phone Video was the video posted, went viral, seen around the world of the death of george floyd. The defense trying to make the case in its crossexamination, well you didnt see it all, you arrived there only after george floyd was done and, again, the Defense Attorney has been trying to make the suggestion that the crowd grew unruly as the witness testified, yes, there was more talking, there was some shouting, there was some screaming as more and more of the witnesses began to realize mr. Floyd was losing consciousness and they believed was in peril. The defense clearly trying to say well view this from officer chauvins perspective, he was nervous, and then in the redirect at the end there, the prosecutor saying, wait a minute, you never saw anybody threaten anybody, right . Laura, im sorry the witness has resumed. My apologies. Were waiting for the testimony to begin. Again, the prosecutors have several underage witnesses and so extra measures are taken to protect their privacy here. There are no cameras trained on them in the courtroom because they are all under 18 at the time of the incident. Laura coates, as we wait, smoir to interrupt you and i may have to do so again, please join in. I understand, and, you know, i saw was the redirect was so powerful so say, hold on, chauvin wasnt scared of the crowd. He wasnt even scared of cars that were going by. He didnt somehow alter his use of force to try to reflect it at the crowd in some way. No one was threatening. She talked about her social anxiety. Even with that she felt compelled to speak out because what she was seeing was so wrong and there was a moment at the end, concluding her testimony afterwards. Saying when i look at george floyd, i see my father, my brother, my cousins, my friends, theyre all black, it could have been them and then she said that i stay up at Night Apologizing to george floyd for not doing more, and not saving his life, and then in this moment cher voice cracked again and she says but it was not what i should have done, its what chauvin should have done. Imagine that testimony, john. Very compelling, back into the courtroom, thank you, laura. How old will you be by the end of next week . 10. And youve got a 10th birthday coming up. Yes. What grade are you in . Third. Do you have a cousin named darnella . Yes. Do you remember going with her sometime last year in may . Yeah. You went you have to let me finish my question. But do you remember going with her to cup foods . Yes. And you like going to cup foods to buy snacks . Yes. Did you go with your cousin darnella sometime in may of last year to get snacks . Yeah. Let me show you exhibit 14. No, there we go. Showing you whats been marked as our exhibit number 13. And ask you, can you see the two people yes. In the front of that picture . Can you . Yeah. Who are those people . Me and my cousin. And which one is you . All right. And so the little one with the word love on her shirt . Yes. Now, you went into cup foods to get your snacks. Yeah. And when you came out of the cup foods do you remember what you did next when you came out . I saw the officer put a knee on the neck of george floyd. Okay. Now you mentioned someone named george floyd. Yes. Did you know George Floyd Before May 25th . I cant hear. Could you say that again, you cant hear . No. Had you ever met george floyd before going into cup foods that day . No. As far as you know had you ever seen him . No. Now, when you came out to where your cousin was, and you saw george floyd was there a policeman there . Yes. Do you remember what the policeman or policemen were doing. Putting a knee on the neck of george floyd. If i showed you a picture of a policeman why dont i just do that . Let me ask you if you recognize the policeman in whats marked as exhibit 17. Do you recognize this man . Yes. Who is he . I cant remember his name. Do you remember what he was doing . How do you know him . He was putting a knee on the neck of george floyd. Do you see him in the courtroom today . No. Okay, how about him . Yes. So is that the person that you saw . Yes. So you saw a knee being put on the neck of george floyd. When was the knee taken did you see that the knee was ever taken off of George Floyds neck . No. Were you there when an ambulance came . Yes. Tell us what happened after you saw the ambulance come. He asked the ambulance had to push him off of him. How did that happen . Did they simply come in an ambulance and go up to push him off or what happened . They asked him nicely to get off of him. And when they asked him nicely to get off of him, what did he do . He still stayed on him. And then what happened after he still stayed on him. What did the balance people do . Just had to get off of him. Are you able to tell us, having been there on this day and seeing the officer on top of george floyd, how did you feel about that . How did it affect you . I was sad and kind of mad. And tell us why were you sad and mad . Because it felt like he was stopping his breathing, and it is kind of like hurting him. Thank you, i wont ask anymore questions. Mr. Nelson . I have no questions of this witness, your honor. Thank you, jadaya, you can go on, youre excused. Thank you. Youre welcome. Your honor, i believe its time for a lunch break. All right. If youre just joining us here on cnn were continuing live coverage of the Derek Chauvin trial out of minneapolis. Weve just heard from two witnesses of three total that weve heard from today, we just heard from two underage witnesses, if you were just tuning in a few moments ago you heard a small voice of a young girl there, a 9yearold who was with her cousin who is now 18, was 17 at the time, and shot some video of those moments. This is day two, of course, of what we are seeing in terms of Witness Testimony for this trial and we just want to take a closer look, and a closer listen to what we have seen and heard throughout the last couple of hours. Joining me now is laura coates, cnn senior legal analyst, a former federal prosecutor and Law Enforcement analyst charles ramsey, former Philadelphia Police commissioner. Commissioner ramsey, as we look at what we heard today, specifically these last two witnesses, we didnt see them on screen, didnt see them fully identified because of their status as minors. What did you take away from the testimony from the three different witnesses we saw today . First, of course, there were these two girls 18 and now 9. And then we also heard from don williams, the mma fighter who was testifying continuing his testimony from yesterday. I thought all the testimony so far today was very come peopling. The last two witnesses were particularly compelling, especially with the first One Dt On Redirect when the prosecutor asked, you know, how she felt, and she stated that, you know, when she saw Floyd She Saw her father, she saw her brother and so forth, you can hear the trauma in her voice. So its very, very compelling. And then of course you have the youngest one, 9 years old now, i believe, but probably 8 then. She, too, was, you know, very clear in terms of what she saw. As far as mr. Williams goes, i thought his testimony was good. Hes an mma fighter which means hes very skilled at what we would call in policing ground fighting, which is part of training that takes place in a police academy. He knows pressure points, he knows control holds, he knows all that stuff and it was very clear in his testimony. The other thing that stood out too in that testimony, we know that he has that background, talked about how he started wrestling when he was in seventh grade, continued through college and then went into mma fighting but he also has experience in security, and working security, and that came up a number of times as well, specifically from the defense, and there was some moments there in the exchanges with the defense that honestly kaf made me really sit up and take a look at what this exchange was that was happening. I want to play a couple of those moments if we can, we have two folks in the control room available, play that if we could. At some point did you make a 911 call . That is correct. I did call the police on the police. And why did you do that . Because i believe i witnessed a murder. And so you felt a need to call the police . Yeah, i felt the need to call the police on the police. There were police there, right . There were police there. Why didnt you just talk to them about it . I believe that we just didnt have no connection. You know, i spoke to them but not on a connection of a human being relationship. Did you believe that they were involved . Yes, totally. So my apologies, thats a separate one, that was obviously the prosecutor there, questioning him. But that stood out as well. You know, calling police on the police, didnt feel he had a connection to the officers who were there. Obviously theres a very specific picture that is being painted. What are you taking away from that, especially with your experience in Law Enforcement . Well, i mean, obviously if he hadnt lost total faith in police, otherwise he wouldnt have called 911 but he knew that the officer was there at the scene who already had failed to take any kind of Decisive Action to check the wellbeing of mr. Floyd. He clearly felt that talking to them was a waste of time so he called 911 to get a supervisor, to get some other officers to respond, hopefully have a better outcome. Thats pretty poor when you feel like you have to call the police on the police. Laura, we also heard the defense really trying to downplay in many ways the experience, the testimony, the martial arts experience, of this witness and specifically there was a lot of back and forth on whats known as a blood choke, which is how he characterized what he saw chauvin doing to George Floyds neck. I want to play part of that exchange and get your take, laura. I just want to make sure, youve never officially been invited to go to the Minneapolis Police academy to train Law Enforcement in the use of force . No, i have not. Or the use of these choke holds . No. Or any other i witnessed my sensai greg nelson. Im asking you, sir, have you ever trained Police Officers in the use of choke holds . No, just witnessed it. Didnt do the training, just was just