this is just the opening statements. it is the beginning. mr. jerry blackwell, the lead prosecutor i thought making an effective methodical presentation about the final nine minutes and 29 seconds of mr. floyd's life. essentially saying that whatever you think happened here what you see with your own eyes is indefensible. eric nelson the defense attorney saying this is a lot more than that, there floyd was there for a long period of time. he lied to police officers, he was high. he struggled with police officers and you have to take into account the officers were dealing with a crowd that they at least perceived to be a threat. just as a veteran attorney your sense so far of the opening statements. >> i give no weight to the defense's opening statement whatsoever because the bulk of their statements have to do with that very notion of a crowd, of information that they would have known perhaps about whether george floyd actually had illegal substances in his body. these are things you would learn after the fact, not in terms of what the conduct of george floyd was. it's is very difficult to be able to focus in on this case. it's not about the crowd. it's not about the protests afterwards, it's not about prior arrests or prior incidents, it's about what happened, and what we initially thought was just eight minutes and 46 seconds. john, but you pointed out precisely, at the expansion to nine minutes and 20 seconds showed you a whole different side than we even thought was possible. exponentially raising the temperature in the room here to show that not only was george floyd on the ground unresponsive, what we saw, begging for his life, but there were crowds of people, and that very compelling video, who were shouting out, please, take his pulse, don't you see, he is unresponsive. and saying, look at you, you're enjoying this, aren't you? your body language tells me you're enjoying this. that was testimony that is invaluable for a jury to hear, for them to see what was happening in realtime from a different vantage point. we also heard from the prosecution, not only did people ask for the police on scene to stop, but other police officers witnessing what happened through a camera, also called the police on those officers. and witnesses there called the police. all of this combines to me to say that you have an unreasonable use of force, as it's printed right now, of long trial is ahead of us. they still have to meet their full burden of proof but this comes down to the cause of death in my mind and the competing experts about whether there was a substantial cause via asphyxiation or anything else. >> let me stick with you, laura, for the courtroom experience, you say you give no stock to the defense presentation but you are aware of the history here, and i think that's what rings, especially to many people, in the african-american community, when they listen to the defense attorney talk about reasonable doubt right out of the block, he said it within his first 15 or 20 words, talked about reasonable doubt. this is complicated. you have to understand the police officers. as we go forward the prosecution gets to come back to that. but do you think in the case the prosecutor goes first, knowing that argument is coming, did mr. blackwell lay enough of the foundation if you will that when you hear that, when you hear that, don't take the bait. >> there's one aspect you're right, that i thought could have been drawn out even more completely and that is in minnesota where i'm from and where i'm barred, in minnesota you don't have to prove that this was the only cause of death. had to be the substantial causal factor which means that essentially if this hadn't happened this person would still be alive. if somebody is shot in the heart. maybe they had terminal cancer, but that's not going to alleviate the liability for the person who shot the person in the heart. if it was one of the factors, a substantial cause of the factors, that's what you go on. the prosecution could have done a better job of leading with that, knowing full well that the idea of other substances or illegal substances might be in his system or the behavior in terms of whether he was perceived to be under the influence. all of those things are distraction that a jury needs to be able to know right out of the gate, look even if that's true, if the kneeling on the neck is a substantial causal factor of this person dying, you can still convict. they didn't lead it with that but there's still time to develop that particular aspect of the case and it will be incumbent upon the prosecution to make that very clear that the jury has choices, has elements to actually decide upon, but substantial causal factor, if it's one of the reasons, it's the reason to convict. >> and chief, both the prosecution and the defense, you know, told the jury, you're going to hear a lot about training, you're going to hear a lot about experience, you're going to hear a lot about officers being trained to handle even what they -- seems like a routine situation that then escalates into something that is anything but routine. let's walk through from the defense perspective, we just heard mr. nelson, he was the final attorney to speak before this break, he said, look, he passed a counterfeit bill, tries to refuse to make amends when the shopkeeper says look, that was counterfeit, pay for the cigarettes, we're done here, it's okay, he refused to do that. they said he was high, then he resisted arrest. even if all that is true and the defense makes a compelling case that mr. floyd passed a counterfeit bill, that he was under the influence, that he struggled with police officers, dusz does that justify, based on the training officers receive, what you see in the end there, in that 9:29 of an officer whose knee is on the neck of a man who keeps saying i can't breathe? >> well, in my opinion, it doesn't. i mean, first of all, use of force has to be necessary, has to be proportional, has to be objectively reasonable. perhaps in the beginning when they first attempted to take him into custody there was a need to use force. once they got him under control, and clearly they got him under control when he's in a prone position, he is handcuffed, that's when that use of force starts to become unreasonable. in other words, you don't need to continue using force once the person is subdued. it did come out in the opening statement about having people in a prone position. i've been in policing for over 50 years. at least 30, if not longer years ago, positional asphyxia became a topic of training in police academies. when you're in that position and your chest is down on the pavement, especially if you've got body weight on top the lungs can't expand and contract so a person cannot breathe. you don't want to keep them in that position any longer than necessary. you turn them on the side, you sit them up so that they can breathe again. none of that took place in this case and you can see just how nonchalant chauvin was when he had that pressure applied to him with his hand on his hip, his sunglasses on his head, i mean, clearly the struggle was long over and so the use of force then should have stopped a long time ago. it didn't. and i think that's going to be the uphill battle that the defense is going to have to try to overcome because i'm not aware of any training anywhere in the united states that would justify someone being in that position that long with that kind of pressure being applied who is not resisting arrest. >> and chief, to follow up with you, the minneapolis chief is going to testify here as a prosecution witness against one of his own officers saying, look, i know these situations escalate but that's just out of bounds, it's way beyond how they're trained, way beyond what the other members of my force do every day on the job out there. how unusual is that that a chief would testify as a prosecution witness. >> there are going to be occasions when perhaps you're going to be called in to testify, it's not that common. but in a case like this, obviously the chief's going to be called and he's absolutely right. and cases -- i mean, things do escalate. something that starts off very minor can wind up becoming a situation where a high level of force has to be used. that can happen. the question is, in this particular case, what happened? after the initial takedown of the individual he was put in handcuffs, at what point in time do you stop using force? the defense counsel mentioned the fact that the crowd was getting unruly. quite frankly that's all the more reason to get him up, get in the car and get him the hell out of there. that's what you would do. because you're in an environment now that's starting to become hostile so you want to get him out of there as quickly as possible. so none of that makes sense to me. it's going to be a long trial. there's going to be a lot of information. we're going to see video from a variety of angles, no doubt. but the defense truly has an uphill climb in this particular case. and in my opinion i don't see how you can justify the use of force in this particular case at all. >> and to the point that chief just made, laura, a long trial, multiple witnesses, some camera video that has audio, some surveillance video that does not. medical experts. reports. autopsy results. these things can get very confusing and very hard for everyday americans on a jury to track and go through. so the impression you make on day one is very important. that's why these opening statements by both of these attorneys are so important. from the defense perspective they try to raise reasonable doubt and tried to say the state was not happy with autopsy result sos they went shopping for other doctors to back up their case which is why i thought the prosecutor did a very compelling job to the point the chief just made, you're going to hear a lot of things, but just remember, trust your eyes. mr. blackwell repeated trust what you saw, he did not let up, he did not get up. repeatedly, he asked people on the jury, use your common sense, think this through. at some point officer chauvin should have stood up, should have given mr. floyd a chance. >> absolutely, john. and the idea of having an impartial jury is not for jurors to come in with the idea of the hear no, speak no, see no evil with their eyes or head in the sand. it's about using your common sense and what you've actually seen. there may be more information we have yet to see. we didn't know all of the video was going to come up. we hadn't seen the vantage of a little girl with the love shirt who now witness, going to testify. there's a lot more to come here but they have to use their common sense and i believe they will. >> laura coates, chief ramsey, stand by, quick break, we expect the trial to resume in just a few moments. back in minneapolis, including a live report from our reporter on the scene, after a quick break. today let's paint with behr ultra scuff defense... so that you can live that scuff-free life. honey, i'm home! honey! scuff defense. i love our scuff-free life. behr ultra scuff defense. exclusively at the home depot. this is how you become the best! ♪“you're the best” by joe esposito♪ ♪ [triumphantly yells] [ding] don't get mad. get e*trade. hi sabrina! hi jen! hi. so you're the scientist here. does my aveeno® daily moisturizer really make my dry skin healthier in one day? 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nelson went on to point to the medical records that showed drugs in his system, history of heart disease. that issue, however it is settled for presented to the jury will be a central issue in all of this. when you look at how people are watching this the family of george floyd is here in minneapolis, brothers, his daughter is here in minneapolis as well, felonis floyd, his brother, is in the courtroom filling that one spot left for a family member of either floyd or chauvin. so while there are eyes from the outside looking at this we remember there's a family at the core of all of this who is going through this in person hoping that justice is made in the name of their loved one. and the last thing i want to mention is right before all of these court proceedings took place this morning, right before the beginning of opening statements, outside the family members and their attorneys held a press conference but they also knelt for close to nine minutes in silence as representative of the amount of time that chauvin's knee was on george floyd's neck and one of the brothers spoke really to what many feel is at stake with this trial, saying that you're always told to trust the system, well now is the opportunity for us to trust the system and let's see what justice ends up coming out of this. and those are the stakes for many people watching this trial from the outside looking in, but of course all that matters right now is what unfolds within those walls of that courtroom, john. >> critical point. omar jimenez, grateful to have you on the ground for us again at this important moment in minneapolis. bring back our cnn contributors, laura coates and chief charles ramsey. laura, start with the point omar just closed with there. to the floyd family, to those who kneeled down outside, to many watching around the united states, this is about more, more, it begins, of course, with the tragic unnecessary death of one man but it's about trying to see will finally justice be served, will finally a white police officer be convicted for something that your own eyes tell you was beyond the pail? that is a national conversation, that is a global conversation but the prosecutor, mr. blackwell, out of the bat tried to convince the jury, don't think about that, this is about one thing. listen. >> this case is not about all police, this case is about mr. derek chauvin and not about any of those men and women and it's not about all policing, at all. this case is not about split second decision-making, in 9:29, there are 479 seconds, not a split second among them. that's what this case is about. >> again we will watch as this plays out, both sides competing with each other -- i'm sorry, going back to the courtroom right now. the proceedings are resuming, excuse me. >> do you swear or affirm under the penalty of perjury the testimony you're about to give will be the truth and nothing but the truth? >> i do. #. >> before you begin, if you could give us your full name, spelling each of your names. >>fy first name is jenna, j-e-n-a, middle of lee, l-e-e, last name is scurry, s-c-u-r-r-y. >> do you want the witnesses to leave their mask on or off, what's the preference? >> actually, i prefer you take your mask off so we can hear you, if you don't mind. there we go. >> thank you, ms. scurry. can you tell the jurors what your occupation is? >> i am a minneapolis 911 dispatcher. >> and so who was your employer? >> city of minneapolis. >> and how long have you been doing that? >> almost seven years. >> can you tell the jurors what kind of training goes into being a dispatcher? >> a lot of training. we go through close to two years of training, starting with call taking where citizens are calling 911 with their emergencies, also speaking to non-emergencies and how we can direct those. we then work with police and fire on sending them their calls and prioritizing those. and also with the police officers on their off duties and warrants and lost children. so there's about four different positions that we work. >> maybe i should start first with, you know, what all's involved in your job as a dispatcher. what are the kinds of things you do. >> specifically as a dispatcher i take the calls that are from 911 as they are prioritized and send them out to the police officers or the firefighters to handle. >> and do you also, for instance, have to answer -- well, provide information? >> oh, yes. >> okay. and is this just for police calls or fire calls or what kind of calls are involved? >> we have police dispatchers who take the calls from 911 and the information and give it out to the officers over the radio and we have fire dispatchers who would then do that specifically for the fire department. >> okay, so there are kind of four different aspects to your job, right? >> correct. >> can you describe for us what those four really are. >> the first one 911 call taking, again where the citizens would call in, giving their emergencies. we help with prioritizing those or giving them to non-emergencies lines. we then have fire dispatch. where those dispatchers specifically send over fire rigs to fires or medical runs. channel 7 would be where we log in our off duty officers, deal with lost children reports, warrants. it's called our information channel because it is a lot of where information, questions happen. and then our police dispatching where we take those calls from 911 and then send them out to the officers based off of priority. >> so a lot of people think of a dispatcher as getting a call from somebody, and then just calling a police officer and saying go answer this call, but there's more to it than that. >> a lot more to it. >> okay. and when you're working a typical shift -- well, describe for the jurors what's around you? what's your office look like when you're a dispatcher? >> my office, our center is currently located in a basement. we have walls similar to like this, covered with carpet. it's a large center. you'll have all the call takers together, similar to how the jurors are set, but you'll have five to six different screens around you and then in another room you'll have your fire dispatchers to give them some silence so they can work around that and be on the radio and listen to the firefighters. across the room you will have our channel 7. that is closely located to our dispatch group, which is approximately four people that are giving out all the calls to the officers. >> so you say that a fire dispatchers are somewhere different. why is that? >> it's just the layout of our center. i mean, police dispatchers are also across the room away from the call takers. it gives them the ability to be louder if they need to if someone's hard of hearing or anything like that. the chatter also gets with everybody together gets pretty loud so we have our own different areas for the ability to be on the radio without all of the background noise. >> so in any particular shift there are some people taking calls, and some people dispatching calls. >> correct. we are not doing the same -- i am not taking a 911 call, and then dispatching it. >> why is that? >> minneapolis is very busy. we have dedicated 911 call takers at that time. we wouldn't be able to do it all at the same time. >> and then fire dispatch is their own fire units for a particular call? >> correct. >> now you mentioned having five or six screens in front of you. what are all those screens about? >> those screens have different resources on them. one of my screens is a telephone. that has hundreds of numbers in it. that i can use to call whoever i need to for any given reason. i also then have a city computer that i can utilize if i need to find an address, because someone may not know it. i can use google or any other resources i need from the internet. i then have a radio screen that has all of our radio channels on it along with other public answering points. so we can listen to their chatter in case something is coming in to minneapolis that we need to be aware of. and then i have three screens dedicated to the calls that are coming in, the calls that are assigned to police or fire. and it will tell me all of the units i have available or who was signed in for different things. >> sounds like a lot of information. >> it is a lot of information. >> >> how long did it take you to become a master at your job? >> every day is a learning day. i can tell you that i can learn something new that i didn't know yesterday. to be completely comfortable with police dispatching it took me about three years to get comfortable there. >> and as part of your training for that job, did you have to learn about how the city of minneapolis police department divides up the city for coverage? >> yes. that's all geography for us, based off of the precincts and then how the precincts break down into different sectors. >> and can you describe for the jurors then, and by police coverage, we're talking about how officers are assigned, correct? >> correct. >> so how is the city of minneapolis divided up for police coverage? >> there are five different precincts in minneapolis. one through five. within those precincts, they all have different sectors. those sectors are given to the officers. they have the specific sectors that they belong to, and based off of the geography of the call you would assign a certain unit to a different call -- or to that call. and if you don't have a unit to cover that area, then you would have to take a unit from a different sector to cover that, leaving the sector that came from available. >> so can you describe for the jurors, take for example the third precinct. familiar with the third precinct? >> i am. >> and describe for the jurors generally what the third precinct is. >> the third precinct is -- has four sectors in it. the first one being 310. that is the top of the precinct, goes down to lake street. and then the middle would be 320, and the lower half being 330. the east side being 340. >> and so what generally area of minneapolis are we talking about? >> for the third precinct would be south minneapolis, east of 35 w. >> and when you use these terms like 310 and 320, what is that really referring to? >> it refers to their sectors to correspond with the call signs that they use. >> and so on a typical shift, how many officers would be assigned to each sector? >> typically you have one per sector, and then you have a sector squad, or a precinct wide squad that would be assigned to the whole precinct. >> and so when officers are assigned to that sector, they're known by that sector number, not their names or their badge number or anything like that? >> correct. >> so when you're dispatching you dispatch to 320 because they're the 320 cover. >> correct. >> and so if you dispatch a call and that sector car is not available what's the process there? >> you move to that 360 number. it is a precinct wide squad. if there is not one available then you move to the most closest available squad. >> so somebody has to go out of their sector to respond to that? >> correct. >> and what's a priority call? >> a priority call is a incident where someone calls in within ten minutes of the situation happening or there's the suspect that's still on scene. >> so what's the significance of calling that a priority call in terms of dispatch? >> the significance -- we would want to get someone there as soon as possible. it's no longer -- it falls still into the -- how would i say this? it's still happening. there's possibility of the person still being on the scene. it's not a report call. that they would go not code 2. >> and so describe for us then what code 2 means. >> as far as i understand code 2 would be not using lights and sirens. they're going without those. >> so sort of makes sense for a call to be priority if you've got a suspect still there, want to get an officer there right away. >> correct. >> and so code 2, from your training and experience, is proceeding without lights and sirens. are there other codes that are used as part of the dispatch process and the policing process? >> we have code 4 which would be scene safe. if we're working with other agencies, such as ems and there's staging in the area, which means they're not going in unless police have deemed it safe for them, police would let us know that the scene is code 4. and then they would proceed in. >> and so between 2 and 4 is there a code 3? >> there is a code 3. >> and what does that mean? >> code 3 means emergent. they need them as quickly as possible. >> okay. i'm going to back up. your job as dispatcher, you do a lot, hearing what's going on, getting calls, is there also things you can do visually in terms of seeing what's going on outside in the city of minneapolis? >> the majority of our job is all through listening. from the first call that comes in to us to dispatching it to radios between dispatch and the responders, at some times we do have cameras available to us they can be up to know what time of day, the weather, to keep us up to date so we can understand how or what questions to ask our callers depending on the cay or what it looks like, but we have cameras available to us if needed. >> explain where the cameras are. >> as far as i know they're around the city. they are up and we have access to them. they are cameras available for usually camera operators, which are some police officers that operate cameras to use and then we can use them as well. >> so how do you see them, you know, when you're working as a dispatcher, how do you see the video from those cameras? >> just like the tvs in this room, they're on the wall for us to use, there are approximately, i believe, six tvs. >> and so it's a way for you to see what's going on out in the streets? >> uh-huh, correct. >> and how often in your job do you think you look up at those and see what's going on? >> it depends. depends on how busy we are. sometimes we are going from call to call to call, and you start at 5:00 and somehow it's already 9:00 in the afternoon and you don't know how you got there. sometimes we can look up and see what it's like outside and you can watch the people walking by. it all depends on the day. >> so in communicating with police officers who are out working, different ways that you can actually communicate with them and talk to them. >> correct. >> what are the different ways that you can do that. >> first we use our radio. that is our formal way of communication with giving out calls and information. we also have our cad system and that is the computer system that allows us to take the calls from 911 operators. they come over to us at dispatch. and then when we dispatch the call we're also giving that same call to the officers or the firefighters to their computers. so that they have the same information that we're giving out. through that we also have what woul d seem as a. >> you may have already answered my question. but to be clear, tell us the typical process when a citizen makes a 911 call, how that comes through the call center and becomes a call to police officers for assistance. >> so everything is -- the first question we asked is what is the address of the emergency, it's the most important thing so that we can send help right away if needed but it also allows the calls to be coded to the correct dispatcher. we have three dispatchers working all at the same time and they're in charge of different precincts. my channel which was channel 1 is precinct 3 and 2 and the other channels involved have different precincts. so the address allows us to give it to different dispatchers so they can disseminate that information. >> so a call goes to a call taker. >> uh-huh. >> they give information to you to do the dispatch out. >> correct. >> and so where are you working on may 25th of last year? >> i was. >> what was your shift? >> i started at 2:30 in the afternoon and worked until 12:30 at night. >> i think you told us your responsibility then was which areas of minneapolis? >> channel 1, which would be precinct 2. and precinct 3. >> so then the other channels have the other precincts? >> correct. >> and so what was your assignments? what were your job duties on may 25th of 2020? >> as a police dispatcher it was to take the calls that came in from 911 and to dispatch them to the police officers. >> and incidentally i think i may have forgot to ask you, is there always a sergeant on duty when you're serving as a dispatcher, a sergeant on duty out in the streets in each precinct? >> yes. >> how many sergeants are there generally on? >> it depends on their shift. minimal of one. >> and as part of your duties do you have contact with the sergeants? >> yes. on that day, may 25, of 2020, did you dispatch a officers to a location known as cub foods. >> yes. >> and did you receive that 911 call? >> i did not. >> and did you -- but you dispatched. >> yes. >> are you familiar with the location of cub foods. >> yes. >> where is that? >> 38th and chicago. >> is that in the city of minneapolis. >> do you know what county? >> hennepin. >> why are you familiar with that location? >> it's a place where i've been in the area before. and also it's part of our geography to know certain landmarks that stick out. it's a place where we have to be ready to understand where it is. so if someone tells me they're at cub foods i know where that is, it's 38th and chicago and i can use my computer system to get that address. >> fairly familiar with the city of minneapolis? >> yes. >> and were you aware at the time if there was one of these street cameras for that area. >> i did not. >> did you subs subsequently learn that there in fact is a camera there that can show the incident you had called. >> yes. >> did you at some point look at video for this incident at the location. >> yes. >> i will come back to that in a little bit. >> prior to coming into court did you have a chance to look at exhibit 151? you don't know that but it's the cad printout from part of this call. correct? >> yes. >> your honor, can we turn on the witness's screen, please? put up 151, please. i'm showing you what we've marked as exhibit 151. do you see it on your screen? >> no. oh. >> now do you see it? >> yes, i'm using the judge's computer. >> okay. first of all, do you recognize what this document is? >> yes. >> how would you refer to it? >> it is the printout version of the call that came in from 911. >> so as calls are processed through the interest, a record of that is made that looks like this. >> yes. >> and is this kept in the ordinary course of the business of the call center, in keeping track of what it does? >> yes. >> and are you -- have you on prior occasions relied on something like this to recall what happened during a call? >> yes. >> and is it something that you're able to see even sometimes during your shift? >> yes. >> and would this come up on one of the multiple screens that you have if you wanted it to? >> yes, everything looks different. it would take a lot of explaining. but yes, we see all of this information. >> your honor then i would offer exhibit 151. >> no objection, your honor. >> 151 is received. >> now ms. scurry i'm going to ask for 151 to be put up on the screen so we can all see it and starting here with the first page of this document and i'll represent to you that we have not included the entire document. this is just a portion of that information. correct? >> correct. >> what i'm going to ask you to do here with the first line is tell us -- run us through that first line ask tell us the information on the very top line. >> the first line is from the call taker. it is a query of the plate that's in the call, and then we use a lot of abbreviations for quick hand information to the dispatchers, and it would say outside on 38th street reporting that there's a male providing -- or provided a counterfeit bill to the business. suspect is a black male, 6 foot taller, sitting on top of a blublue mercedes. >> so what i'm going to do is have this blown up a little bit. so everybody can read along with you. at least the first couple lines. just so that it's bigger for us all to see. so the first column on the left self-explanatory, that's the date. >> correct. >> and then the time, also probably self-explanatory. what does user mean? >> user would be how you identify different persons involved. this person you can tell is a call taker. it's the first two letters there, and then it has their id number. we all have our own id numbers. >> and so what's your id number. >> mine is 123096. >> but this first user number that starts with a ct, you're familiar with who is assigned that number, or generally who has that number. >> yes. >> and how do you know that? >> it's given to our certain -- everybody has their own specific one. if i need today query that to find out who it was it would tell me their name but i also known that's a call taker based off of the first two letters. >> and then type, what does type mean? >> it's the response. >> so that's outgoing information. >> yes, i believe. i'm not -- i can't -- i don't know exactly know what that means, right there. >> so that first line, query, someone is can go to run a license plate, correct? >> correct. >> so then the next line, can you describe for the jury then what we're seeing here, all that -- that's in capital letters. >> so everything we write is usually in capital letters but the first three letters are ots, that is our short term for outside and then just on 38th street, it's providing the information of where, we try to be as clear as possible, and paint a picture. so outside on 38th street reporting that there's a male provided a counterfeit bill to the business. >> is this the information that the call taker provided to you to make the dispatch to officers? >> yes. >> and as part of this process does that information also go to the officers in writing? >> yes, all of this information is sent to them when they're assigned the call. >> so this is available to them in their squad car as well? >> correct. >> and we see then there's a description of the vehicle, correct, blue mercedes. >> yes. >> and then there's an address. >> yes, that is the query information that goes in there so we can sometimes plates don't match vehicles. it is the reason why we ask along with the license plate what kind of vehicle are you seeing so when we run that plate we can say this is a stolen vehicle, and it doesn't match, or the plate doesn't match because it might just be wrong. >> so here clear to 2419 ilian avenue north, what does that mean? >> that is the registered owner's address. >> of the vehicle that's described there. >> yes. >> and so then when -- the next line, no screen, questions asked, what does that mean? >> due to the pandemic we have certain questions that we ask. and there were no screening questions asked based off the person not being the person they're calling about so the caller, as far as we know, they're not going to have contact with, but no screening questions were asked to let the officers know that we don't know if they've had any covid contact or symptoms. >> so then taking this information then did you dispatch a squad car to respond to this call? >> yes. >> and who did you -- well, first of all, if you could tell us which sector of the third precinct -- well, i assume this was the third precinct. correct? >> correct. >> which sector would this fall in? >> this falls in 320 sector. >> and did you, in fact, dispatch then to 320? >> i originally dispatched this to 330. >> and why is that? >> 320 was not available. >> and you knew that from your work previous that day? >> yes. >> okay. and so then you -- did you make an actual dispatch to 330 to respond to this call? >> yes. >> and so when you do that, make that oral dispatch, you base it off this information that you're reading right here? >> correct. >> all right. and prior to coming to court, did you have an opportunity to listen to a copy of that call? >> yes. >> and we played that for you? >> yes. >> did that appear to be an accurate recording of the actual call you made? >> yes. >> and we mark that as exhibit 10 and, your honor, we would officer exhibit 10 at this time. >> only available audio sector to cub foods on chicago 37 # 59 chicago. on 38 they are reporting that there's a person who used a counterfeit bill at the business. suspect is a black male. >> so we're clear that's not quite the end of the call, is it? >> no. >> all right, we will try again and see if we can get the whole thing to play. >> do you want to take a moment? >> so in your call out then you passed along essentially the same information as in the written part we saw in exhibit 151. >> correct. >> slightly different based on just what you're reporting out, correct? >> correct. >> you're watching the trial proceedings here of officer derek chauvin trial, there's been an objection as they were first trying to play a 911 dispatch out to the police who responded to the scene. a little glitch in the recording. the judge is listening to the attorneys in the case. he spoke to the people in the courtroom beforehand saying they would have these white noise conversations, which he's having right now. the judge is listening to the attorneys now as they were trying to describe the phone call. whether this is a major matter or just a -- one of the usual hiccups that happen in a trial. we will see. laura coates our legal commentator is with us. they were trying to play the entire call, had an issue with the technology and then the defense objected when the prosecutor was trying to describe it. >> yeah, and this is not uncommon for you to have this sort of procedure machinations process, most people think about trials and they're envisioning law and order, everything is, the crime is committed. the person is prosecuted, a conviction acquittal ends up in 55 minutes. we're seeing the process by what you have to do to get evidence introduced. you can't immediately say, all right, here's a 911 call or witness describe what happened or tell me what's going on here, you have to actually get documents in. the reason for that is he'll be able to use it again later on. >>let let's go back in the courtroom. >> we will try exhibit 10 again, and just before we play it, first thing that records is not your voice, that's just an electronic voice marking the call. >> correct. >> we'll try exhibit 10 again. >> may 25, 2020 at 3:30. >> 330, only available audio sector to cub foods on chicago 3759 chicago, 138 # they are reporting there's a person who used a counterfeit bill at the business. suspect is a black male, sitting on a blue mercedes. possibly intoxicated as well. >> 320 could you put the call in -- >> copy. >> so that is the total dispatch we have regarding this incident with the officers out on the street. correct? >> correct. >> all right. back up and run through this a little bit. and if you can tell us, so cub foods is in which sector. >> it's in sector 320. >> and you initially called this out to 330. correct? >> correct. >> do you recall who was working in 330 that day. >> i don't specifically know. >> and so when you start your shift you just know there's a car out there that's 330 you're calling to that one. >> correct. >> and after that 330 called back and said copy, correct. >> correct. >> and what does that mean. >> it means they acknowledge that they've been given a call. >> and subsequent to that there was a call from 320. correct? >> yes. >> and what was the substance of that call? >> they said they would take their call. >> based on what you knew about 320 being busy, what did you take from that exchange that 320 was now calling in. >> they were able to at least put their call in pending, come back to it and then take their call. >> they also mentioned pending priority 9. what does that mean? >> that means i didn't clear them from their call. sometimes i will clear a squad for whichever reason if it's report advised sent, there's a multitude of different reasons. and i instead just put it back in pending so they can pick it up later to finish whatever they needed to do. >> and then 330 ended up calling and saying cancel, thanks 20, correct. >> correct. >> what did that mean. >> that they were no longer going to be going to the call and to thank them. >> and so when you're making -- when you're doing that dispatch, at some point did you ask to send additional officers there? >> in the initial one no. >> but did you eventually? >> yes. >> all right. so if we can go back to 151 please. and again we'll expand that first page so we can see it easier. you'll see a line at 20:10:08. that would be 8:10:08. correct. >> correct. >> that's your identification number correct? >> correct. so tell us what that line is about. >> these are the actions that i did to back the squad 320 up with 330 and then 830. >> and so when you're saying backed up 320 with 330, what does that mean? >> additional squads are in route. >> so did you request that or was that information you got that they were going to back up 320. >> i backed them up. >> do you recall why? >> i heard something loud in the background and asked for additional squads. >> you did that as well with 830. correct. >> correct. >> what does 830 refer to. >> squad 830 is a park squad. >> by park squad you mean what? >> they're a minneapolis park officer. >> it's the park police, work for the city of minneapolis as well. >> correct. >> and so they can respond to calls in minneapolis even though it's not a park. >> correct. >> and so then can you tell us a few lines at 20 :11:02. . describe what's listed there. >> they are taking one out. >> and what does that mean? >> they are taking a person out of the vehicle. >> is that customary for officers to call that in. >> yes. >> in right below that is a license plate number. >> yes. >> and we have removed the identifying information from that correct. >> correct. >> that's why there's a gap there. >> uh-huh. >> and though there is a street address to minneapolis correct. >> yes. >> and that's an ilian avenue. >> correct. >> where is that in minneapolis generally, do you know? >> that is in the fourth precinct. >> which side of minneapolis is that? >> north side of minneapolis. >> this information has gone out as well, that address. >> correct. >> and then following down to 20:12:21, do you see that entry? >> yes. >> and can you describe for the jurors what's depicted on that line? >> it is squad 320, it's code 4. >> and so that means what to you? >> scene safe. >> and incidentally this 20:12 is military time, that's 8:12 correct. >> correct. >> i suspect you're far more accustomed to translating than than the rest of us. >> very much. >> the next line down, can you describe for the jurors what's there? >> it says 8:30 is out with squad 320, when the squad arrived. >> when the what, i'm sorry. >> 830, the park squad is now with squad 320 at that location. >> okay. and then if we move down to the next line, a whole bunch of stuff there. not really concerned. that's just all coding for some information requested, i assume. >> yes, that is 830 put something in the call. >> okay. so then we'll move to the next page and we'll expand this so we can see it and actually these two pages we'll probably pull up both at the same time so we can look at them as we go along. drawing your attention to the second line at 20:20:11. do you see that? >> yes. >> and can you describe what's listed there, what that line is about? >> i believe i heard ems code 2 for injury requested by the squad. >> that's 320 calling in for that, correct? >> correct. >> and so code 2 you told us earlier means what? >> non-emergent. >> and then describe for us then what's depicted in the next line at 20:21:35. >> squad 330 asked ems code 3. >> this is -- >> upgrade. >> 330 upgrading the call to code 3. >> uh-huh. >> is that yes? >> yes. >> so they're asking for the ambulance to come quicker. >> correct. >> and just to be clear when we talk about ems, we might think of that as an ambulance, right? >> correct. >> and then the next line at 20:27:21 can you describe for the jurors what's depicted there? >> it was information for the paramedics that police had the male restrained on the ground. >> and incidentally are you able to tell who called that in, whether it was -- or which squad it was? >> i would be able to if i read the portable number but i did not. >> but not on this -- not on this printout, correct? >> correct. >> all right. so then the next line down at 20:28:36, do you see that? >> yes. >> can you describe for the jurors what that line has there? >> we first start out with a

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