recently as her father working as a sharecropper there. here's what she said to the reaction of seeing that painting in that moment. >> it was very rude and very disrespectful to me, to my family, to black people in georgia that he signed -- and that whole veisual was very disrespectful. that whole thing symbolized everything that's going on in georgia right now. black people are coming out, black people are voting. they don't like that so they're going to try everything to stop it and it's not going to work. because we are fueled by the power of our ancestors. it's a new georgia. >> and that last part was her reacting to the arrest of georgia representative park canon who was taken away in handcuffs when she knocked on the door of governor kemp's office to try and witness that bill signing. a few of the people who were there today really told me how strongly they reacted to that. they felt it was terrifying, and they really contrasted it with what they saw on january 6th at the nation's capitol comparing what happened to those folks who were destroying property versus an elected member of the georgia statehouse arrested because she was trying to witness a part of this bill process, pamela. >> all right, natasha, thanks so much. reporting for us live from atlanta. and let's do a fact check now on some of what really is and isn't in this new law in georgia. it limits the use of ballot drop boxes, imposes new i.d. requirements for absentee voting and allows state officials to take over local election boards. the law also makes it a misdemeanor to give food or water to voters in line and allows any georgian to make unlimited challenges to voter registrations. but it also expands early voting access for most counties, adds a mandatory saturday early voting option and requires all counties to have a drop box. here's what you won't find in the law. that proposed ban on sunday voting or the repeal of no excuse absentee voting, those have initially been proposed by republicans but did not make it in the final version. and with me tonight is cnn legal analyst ben ginsburg, a republican election lawyer who worked on the bush v. gore case and also professor william brooks, a former president of the naacp. gentlemen, great to see you both. i'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on this. ben, i want to start with you. president biden says the justice department is, quote, taking a look at this law. at least one lawsuit has already been filed. the accusation democrats are making is that the law is voter suppression. as a republican yourself do you see it that way? >> well, i think there's certainly parts of this law that are very wrong as a matter of principle. voting is the most fundamental right. you went over some of the provisions that take away and are barriers to that fundamental right. getting rid of drop boxes makes no sense, the potential take over by the state legislature, the state board of elections is fraught with peril. and certainly providing food and water to people in line is an attempt to suppress votes. things like the voter i.d. provision gets rid of signature matches, which is sort of an impossible process these days. and substitutes identifying numbers that are being used by democratic states like california, new jersey and virginia. so i think that part of it is a bit overblown. >> so cornell, you just heard natasha chen interview a woman who says the portrait at governor kemp's bill signing shows the plantation where her ancestors worked. when you hear about something like that, what do you think? what goes through your mind? >> what goes through my mind is that the -- the slavocracy that began really on the plantation and that continues in this moment, that is say relegating african-americans to second class status as citizens is tragic, real and ongoing. the fact of this matter is the this voter suppressing law in georgia is designed to really strip african-americans and others of the right to vote. how? when 200,000 georgians don't have state i.d.s or driver's licenses, that's a challenge. when you mandate that absentee drop off boxes have to be inside buildings, which is like requiring mailboxes to be inside of the lobbies of post offices. when you prohibit giving people food in line this is to strip african-americans of the right to vote and remove them from the center of our democracy, the last preddential election back onto the plantation. that's what this is about and we've got to be clear about this and morally frank and as citizens honest about what's going on here. >> as i'm sure you've heard georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger said the outcry about the law is all hyperbole. i want to remind people he stood up to president trump amid direct pressure after the election. i know you lay idout some of the reasons there, but why is he wrong? if you could talk to him right now and talk to governor kemp, what would you say to them about this being hyperbole? >> i would simply say this. where the secretary of state has been the subject of nothing less than a political coup d'etat, that is to say his or her ability to oversee and have local elected officials carry out elections as they have and generally speaking well, that demonstrates the ill intent of this law. so what i would say to the secretary of state is that you cannot perpetuate this. president trump delegitimized the vote and legitimized violence. if the gop, if congress, if the president don't intervene and that is to say protect the right to vote, what they will literally is delegitimize the vote not protecting it and legitimize violence. we have a choice as a democracy. we can either allow the people to speak through the ballot box or we will have insurrectionists in our capitol. brian kemp, the secretary of state in the state of georgia have to understand they face an existential choice. in terms of improving our democracy or literally undermining our democracy and literally a slap in the face of every american citizen particularly african-americans. >> so, ben, in light of what cornell just laid out there, one of the provisions in this bill allows state officials to override county election officials. so if this had been in place after trump lost georgia, when he came calling for georgia republicans to find enough votes, would this have created a legal avenue -- >> well, it might have and that would appear to be the purpose of the state legislators putting this in. of course, these things have a way of sort of what goes around comes around. and coming back to create exactly the different effect from what they want. and in fact overall republicans have given a great political organizing gift to the democrats by being so hard handed in the way they've put this out. i can't think of anything that will motivate democratic voters to vote like the scene of arresting the african-american state legislator yesterday unless it's arresting grandmothers giving out water to grandmothers standing in a voting line. >> do you agree this will only stand to energize minority voters, and what do you think about the fact some of the harsher proposals like eliminating sunday voting didn't make it in and this bill does add extra early voting? i want to get your thoughts on that. is that enough of a counter balance? >> absolutely not. the fact that the gop has not been completely successful in suppressing the right to vote is nothing to celebrate. for every member of republican party that expressed admiration for john lewis, for anyone has ever said happy fourth of july or happy martin luther king day, stop and do not choke over your hypocrisy in this moment by failing to denounce voter suppression and calling this law out. let's be clear voting rights are literally the most important right in this democracy in terms of ensuring all other rights. so we cannot -- we cannot engage in double speak here. to be clear this law is dangerous -- we are in a dangerous moment of our democracy and calls for moral candor in this moment that demands we all speak up for the right to vote in the present, honoring our martyrs in the past literally so we can ensure we have a future as a democracy. >> all right, professor cornell william brooks, ben ginsburg, we're going to leave it there. thank you both for coming on. >> thank you. so what does banning people from giving water to voters have to do with fraud? they're saying provisions like this are necessary because -- >> there's no doubt there are many alarming issues with how the election was handled and those problems understandably led to the crisis of confidence in the ballot box here in georgia. >> many alarming issues except he didn't provide any examples because there aren't any examples. the state recount and multiple audits confirm georgia's 2020 results and biden's victory and found no widespread fraud. for the record, kemp shouldn't be surprised by this. he certified those results, and when he ran georgia's elections in 2018 as secretary of state he boasted about their integrity saying, quote, we have laws on the books that prevent elections from being stolen from anyone. that was after a tight race that kemp himself won. but after three tight races that republicans lost suddenly the brian kemp of 2021 says there is, quote, crisis of confidence because the republican party spent months parroting the falsehood -- after the election his attorney sydney powell repeatedly said she had evidence that would prove massive voter fraud. in a court filing this week her lawyers provided a stunning disclaimer. quote, reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact but view them only as claims they await testing through the courts during the adversary process. they were tested by the courts and tossed out dozens of times. but that lie already worked its way into the gop dna and became the basis for the push, an effort president biden strongly condemned this week. >> what i'm worried about is how un-american this whole initiative is. it's sick. it's sick. deciding in some states that you cannot bring water to people standing in line waiting to vote, deciding that -- deciding that there will be no absentee ballots, the republican voters i know find this despicable. republican voters. >> so if this was about election security, is it just a coincidence these measures tend to impact communities of color the most? that is something to think about. look a t georgia. georgia senator raphael warnock who may not have won if these measures were in place explained the stakes. >> voting rights traditionally has been bipartisan. the last time we re-authorized the 1965 voting rights act george w. bush was president, and it passed the united states senate 98-0. we have to pass voting rights no matter what, and it's a contradiction to insist on minority rights in the senate while refusing to stand up for minority rights in the society. >> we want to reiterate here there are provisions in the georgia bill like expanded early voting on the weekends and requiring every county have a drop box under certain limitations, which advocates say -- advocates of the bill say expand voter access. but the larger question at play here is if the facts show georgia's election was free, fair and secure why is this bill necessary? why tinker with the system that is working? does this create a precedent that every time a party loses they will cry foul and there will be this fight to change the laws? 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>> it's extremely frustrating that this isn't a more bipartisan effort. i have six children. when i visited that facility to see these children of various different ages from very young it's heart breaking and it's not fair to them, not fair to the border patrol agents working around the clock, it's not fair to the texans that see it every day that don't feel safe in their homes. what would it take? it takes congress leading. look, we can't always >> what does that look like and how do you make that happen? >> yeah, it starts -- it starts by coming together and having a conversation. basically going what happens when a person leaves their home in honduras and makes their trek to america, the good parts, bad, all of it and then understand it. right now there's two turns of thought. either you're for border patrol and against immigration or for immigration and against border patrol. as well as being compassionate and have a robust immigration system that i think helps with that. >> but what specifically do you think there could be enacted that would barner bipartisan support? i think everyone can agree it's a humanitarian crisis to see these young children you just described making this dangerous trek and in these border-like facilities. no matter who's to blame and there's a lot of blame game going on, finger pointing, this is awful -- i mean you don't even have to have kids to know how awful it is. why aren't they coming together to do more to figure this out? >> yeah, so if children are, you know, legitimately making the trek from these dangerous areas which many of them are, and they're legitimately seeking as asylum why do we have to wait? that way they don't have to make that dangerous trek. the other part is work visas. let's increase the amount of work visas. if people want to come and live the american dream and work hard, let's welcome them through the front door. we absolutely need to know who's coming through our country. right now what you're seeing is a very partisan effort. the bills that were passed in the house, dead on arrival. no one is willing to work with each other. that starts there. we also have to talk about border security. families have to feel safe in their own homes. i was in eagle pass and there's a member there that he's a small business owner, and he got a call. he's at work. he got a call from his two teenage children that there were some migrants that were banging on the door. they were terrified, right? they called 911, took 45 minutes for the police to arrive. nothing ended up happening, it's wrong all across the board. >> i want to get your reaction to what we heard from democratic congressman pete agwular who i spoke with earlier in the show. listen to what he had to say about the current situation at the border. >> it's hard to look past what they did for four years to create this issue. clearly president biden and the biden-harris administration is looking to remedy this as they should. and they are putting leadership into it. they did visit the same facility, members of the administration, high level members visited the cureeseo springs location i was in yesterday with congressman castro and my colleagues. so they are taking this serious, but it's going to take time is what we would say because the trump administration tried to dismantle so many aspects of our immigration system. they try to wreck it at every possible step. from the asylum process to the homeland security process and everything in between. you know, they tried to damage it including removing funding from northern triangle countries which is the root cause of this migration. >> so what do you say in response to that? >> so i was the first member to visit the facility in carisso springs. i visited it three days after it opened up and i urged the administration to visit. and i was excited when they did. we recently visited the facility out in el paso and i was excited a week later the administration did. there's a new facility, i'll go out there and visit it. visiting it is part of step one. i'm excited that the vice president is going to be leading this effort. that shows the importance that it's going to take in order for us to solve this. but this isn't a new issue. this isn't a new topic. every president has had to deal with this. and what i'd like to see is this administration work closer with those that see it every day. i'm on the border every day. work with us to come up with a solution. building more and more facilities is the wrong answer. we're about to open up two more facilities here. there's going to be another facility out in fort bliss in el paso. i mean what i'm hearing from border patrol agents on the ground is this. things are only going to get worse. april is going to be worse than march, and may is going to be worse than april. we have to act now. we're out of time. we have to start acting now and the administration needs to work with others, not just have a one way approach. >> so what about governor abbot of texas your state? do you think he should accept money from the federal government to help with some of these efforts and help with covid testing and so forth? as you know he initially rejected getting that money? >> absolutely. i think the state and the federal government and the local government should all be working together just like we worked together through this pandemic, this immigration crisis is no different. and i'll give you an example. when they opened up this facility i got a call from hhs, and my first call was to the mayor, the county judge the commissioner. and they had no idea this facility was opening up in their community. that's wrong. we have to have a joint conversation and a lot of people they just are concerned. they don't know what's happening. and when you don't know what's happening you're afraid of that change. if you had a conversation you'd have a lot of communities that are compassionate, that wants to help out but the administration can no longer go it alone. >> and have you reached out to the administration, very quickly? 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>> congressman, yes, we do have a policy against allowing -- >> you still have 12 people up on your site doing this. will you take them down? >> congressman, i would lneed t look at or have your team look at -- >> those still exist. >> zuckerberg didn't exactly answer that question directly. >> it is a challenging question because you heard in the hearing democrats saying that companies like facebook aren't doing enough to remove misinformation. but at the same time you heard republicans thinking the companies are removing too much information, removing conservative viewpoints. i think the problem is deeper, which is that no matter how well-intentioned a corporation is, private companies shouldn't be the ones playing ministry of truth. it shouldn't be facebook or twitter deciding what information gets widely distributed to millions and millions of people and what information gets sensored. what it means to live ipa democracy is that those kind of questions that the institutions that govern our lives are governed by us, the people, not by politicians or corporations. >> so -- okay, so let's boil down what we heard more specifically from zuckerberg. in his testimony he said we do more to address misinformation than any other company. then he said we will accept paid ads from politicians that are full of misinformation and allow those to be targeted as our users. so how does that square doing more to address misinformation than any other company, but oh, we'll take these political ads that include misinformation, we're okay with that? >> yeah, there's definitely a big challenge in the business model itself. it's on the advertising side but also on the content side. and frank pollone, the committee chairman said the business model itself has become a problem. what you see is that these companies have a direct financial incentive to get us to spend as much time staring at our phones as possible. and what keeps people staring at their phones isn't necessarily what's true or what's nuanced or actual. but instead is what's most salacious, what most plays to peoples existing biases. so the business model is directly setup to incentivize this kind of behavior. >> so in light of that do social media profit models mean mark zuckerberg will never police facebook to get rid of disinfo and those political ads? >> i think that's very likely the case, but also i wouldn't want facebook to be the one that's deciding what information i get to see and what information i don't get to see. i think it's very dangerous that we're looking to a small group of unelected profit maximizing companies within a small group of oligarchs in california to decide what the public square gets to contain. i think democracy can survive a storming of the capitol. i'm not sure it can survive a privately held public sphere. so instead we need to look at why do these companies get to decide these things in the first place? and instead given the public square is so influenced by these new technologies, how do we instead start to think of them as public utilities where it's not the whim of mark zuckerberg deciding whether or not certain information gets sensored or certain information gets provided. >> when you first started facebook did you ever imagine it would grow this big and be involved in misinformation and disinformation campaigns like this? >> no, absolutely not. i was really inspired joining facebook by the mission of making the world more open and connected. and i'm still inspired by that mission and really the mission of the -- the emergent mission of the entire internet. and i still believe that technology can and should and must become a powerful tool for democracy, a powerful tool for us to work together toward truth. it really should be. you look at sites like wikipedia that show the power of working together, how we can make sense of reality and actually create better understanding and resolve tensions. the problem has been that technology instead by being governed by these private entities has torn us apart instead of bringing us together. i still believe in that promise, and that's why i've started this non-profit one project to look at what could the future of technology be and economic incentives that make that a reality. >> all right, justin rosenstein, thanks for coming on the show. >> thank you so much. and tonight after more than 100 civilians are massacred in myanmar, the country's envoy to the u.n. is begging the international community for help tonight. scuff defense. 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