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Save 40 on hotel and ticket packages right now. Not later, like right now. Tonight prb outraged at georgias sweeping new elections law which restricts access to voting calling it an atrocity and saying the Justice Department is reviewing it and calling out the racial motivation of the law, saying it is nothing less than jim crow in the 21st century. Its restrictions targeted specially to suppress black voters in georgia. Also tonight, Dominion Voting Systems going after fox big time, filing a 1. 6 billion Defamation Lawsuit against the right wing channel for pushing trumps big lie about election fraud, accusing it of recklessly disregarding the truth. So joining me now is democratic senator cory booker. I really appreciate you joining us this evening. We are watching the big lie now turn into voter suppression. President biden saying this. An atrocity. The idea, any indication that it had nothing to do with fairness, nothing to do with decency. They passed a law saying you cant provide water . For people standing in a line while theyre waiting to vote . You dont need anything else to know that this is nothing but punitive, designed to keep people from voting. So listen. Hes correct about that. He also in a written statement saying this. This is jim crow in the 21 century. It must end. So why is he waiting to do something about it . Well, lets hope he will. I think this is a wakeup call to which side of america you stand on. Do you stand on the one that wants freedom, vibrant, multicultural democracy . Or do you want to join a lot of other nations around the world from turkey to hungary that alert you toward authoritarianism, where people who are in power are changing the rules to suppress democracy to ensure that they stay in power. So yeah, this is a throwback to a disastrous time in American History where there was widespread Over Suppression of africanamerican voters but also in the larger global context right now is showing the contest on the planet earth between the principles that America Heralds most and the despotism, demagoguery, the propagandaism, authoritarianism of those who seek to undermine democracy. The Republican Party leadership in over 40 states is choosing authoritarianism. Policies that suppress votes. Because this is why what you said earlier about the big lie, the widespread rampant inperson voter fraud does not exist in america. There has only been 31 cases since the year 2000 of over a billion votes cast in manager, only 31 cases of credible voter fraud. So this is not about secure voting. This is about suppressing the vote because we know, g8 report, when you put a voter i. D. Law, remember Dispr Disproportionately black voters lack i. D. S, especially designed in places like texas where your Concealed Carry Permit Count as an i. D. But your student i. D. Doesnt. Africanamericans do not have these i. D. s compared to others. It discriminates against black people as well as low income people. I dont think you can be clearer than that. But nothing will be, i dont know, youre in the senate. You know this. Something has to be done about the filibuster. Is president bidens strategy to wait until it is clear that the American People that the gop Is Obstructing coming out strong against the filibuster . I talk to the white house regularly on everything from Police Reform to last night talking to the white house officials about making the Child Tax Credit permanent. I do not know what their strategy is. I know, you hear the president talk about how passionality he is, sincere, this anguish in his heart, because he believes in a vibrant democracy and let the elected leaders that could make the best case win. So i know theyre going to try to do whatever they can. I have an ally, we have an ally in them. This will have to be both a fight in the senate where those of us who believe that this is really an Inflection Point, there is a line to the big lie in the insurrection against those who want to protect this lurching toward authoritarianism. And this is why this is not a republicandemocratic thing necessarily amongst the people of america. In georgia, these laws, depending on which one you go, are wildly unpopular. 70 to 77 , depending on which law, 77 giving people water in line law all the way to 70 , some of the Provision Ballot changes they made are unpopular. So im telling you, this has got to be an Inflection Point for all americans. You cant just sit on the side line and say this is wrong. All of us have to begin to demand change. I think people need to know, we need more, people need to be taught more about what all these terms mean, provisional ballot, what is counted and what is not, applications. I think people think that all of it counts, right . But it doesnt count until its checked. And all of that happened in the last election. You can see court case after court case, recount after recount. It all happened. I have to ask you. Did you say you spoke to the white house about last night . No. I spoke to the white house last night with policy issues. Not about what happened in georgia. Gotcha. I have to ask you about reaction from the former president defending his supporters who violently stormed our capitol, claiming they posed, this is a quote, zero threat. Weve all seen the videos of the violence, beating officers. You were there. Your life was at risk. What goes through your mind when you hear the former president claim these insurrectionists loved our country . Its not just him. This is beginning to take root round Conspiracy Theory websites and social media, and this is my place of work. And i talk to the people do the hard jobs in the senate. There are hundreds of Capitol Police officers. If you have any doubt, talk to them about their colleagues, dozens and dozens of them that were seriously injured. From eyes gouged out to serious spinal and back problems or maybe you should call the family of Brian Sicknick who died in the capitol assault. So i have no patience for folks who dont recognize what this really was. And trying to down play it, there are still people trying to still recover from the harm done to these folks by this violent Mob Channelling Hang Our vice president. Carrying weapons and chemical sprays. This is shameful, whats going on. And we cant, we should not give it any harbor. It is so insulting to, you mentioned the Capitol Police officers and i think Police Officers all over the country who put their lives on the line to pretend what they faced, those officers in that capitol, that what they faced was love and hugs and you know, kisses. Its just really unbelievable. Thank you, senator. I appreciate your time. Thank you so much. I appreciate you. I just want to make the appeal, please, this is a time that silence is come miss at this. If you dont agree whats happening in georgia and the 40 other states pushing laws like this, this has to be a moment that honors those who died for voting rights. Honors john lewis, honors them. Please, please do not sit back. This is a time for act vifl. If you love this democracy, please stand up and say so. Senator booker, thank you. Professor west is here. Welcome to the program. Good evening to you, sir. How are you doing, my brother . Another sad day. Lets talk about it. Black people in georgia followed the rules. They cast their ballots. Democrats won. So now republicans are changing the rules. When people of color step forward, why is there always a back lash . Or a white lash . Thats a good question. Ive got my precious son down in georgia with his lovely family, man, and its the hound of hell in the language of the great teacher, Martin Luther king jr. Their fear, their hatred, their hypocrisy, their greed. When you unleash those hounds in such a way that you dont have counter veiling forces. Thats why hes telling the truth. You have to have counterveiling forces and voices and movement. Where are the voices coming out of our churches, our mosques, our community, our trade unions . Weve got to have some kind of wave of response against these hounds of hell. We keep talking about the big lie. The big lie, the rigged election. We know its a lie. But the monstrous lie behind the big lie is White Supremacy that always reshapes and refashions itself, over and over and over again. Slavery, old jim crow, new jim crow, new, new, new jim crow. If we dont push it back, we lose our democracy. Just that simple. And Bror Cther Cory is lootly right. You know thats what i talk about in the book. At the bottom of all of this. And until we come to that realization, to that consensus and decide to do something together, it is never, ever, ever going to change. Ella baker, all the way up to baldwin and a Brother Named Don from louisiana got his voice in the chorus, too. Absolutely. Not just the voices. You have to have people who are willing to fight. Right. Youve got to do the work. Right. If youre a poet, write a poem. If youre a singer, sing some songs. If youre a teacher, teeth the truth. This is what is at stake. This has always been what is at stake. Never forget that. This is a crucial point. That any time any forces have come at black people, we are great people. We were not conquered by slavery. We were not conquered by jim and jane crow. Not by the new jim crow. We will not be conquered by this jim crow new style. This jane crow new school. Not just in the ballot box. Theyve got forms of this happening on wall street, silicon valley, across the board. Right here at harvard. Right across the border. Fighting it back, no language w, whatever language they use, this is about equity. I want to know, where is the substance . Where is the content . Keep it in mind, brother, it is the love supreme. We love in truth, we love black people, we loving beauty, we loving goodness. And as a christian, im loving god but everybody aint got to do that. That leads me to souls at the polls. What you just said, when you talked about black people, you know, you come from a long line of sturdy peasant stock from a long line of poets. At the very time i thought i was lost, my dungeon shook and my chains fell off. The passion that many black people have around voting is because of the challenges, and thats not a Strong Enough word. The suppression that africanamericans face in the past. I want you to check out these people in georgia. Theyre waiting in line for hours to cast their votes in 2020. If someone wants to give one of those people a bottle of water, are they going to get arrested . Is this what republicans want to see . They want to stop old ladies from going to vote in their Church Hats On Sunday and old ladies getting Water Waiting in line to cast their vote . Well, you see how mean spirited and cold hearted it is. But keep in mind, on the vanilla side of town with those same folks who voted, if their mamas and their fathers and their aunts and uncles are in line, if they had to wait for two hours, they would go bring them some water. So thats the hypocrisy of it all. You cant take the him citizens seriously. This is geared for the Chocolate Side of town. This is not the golden rule. This is not for them. Theyre so entitled. Theyre so hearty. They know it doesnt apply to them. If it did happen, we know the history of jim crow. The history of White Supremacy. Suppress these folks. Control these folks. Disrespect these folk. It wont happen in my neighborhood. Oh, no, no, not at all. Well treat them with dignity. And all we say, we deserve the same dignity as anybody else. And in the teeth of the most terrifying odds. Monumental dignity, right . Thats exactly right. Listen to aretha tonight and shell give you a sense of the dignity of a sound. The dignity of movement. I love having you on. I mean, you just, thank you, you inspire me. God bless you and your loved ones. Have a great weekend. Be well. Thank you so much. We just talked about the big lie. The Big Apply The Election was stolen isnt enough for the former president. Now hes pushing another big lie claiming that nothing much happened at the capitol insurrection. Does he really expect to us ignore what we saw with our own eyes . Maybe try to change the narrative. Shaping his own reality. 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Is there an ev for me . Ev for me . Us . What about me . Me . For me . dog whimpers so the former president s Big Lie Wreaking Havoc on our democracy is now prompting Georgia Republicans who spent months confirming the integrity of their elections to pass laws claiming to fix problems that never existed. Trumps own officials confirm 2020 was the most secure election in our countrys history. Lets discuss now the former fbi director anthony mccabe. He joins us now. Lets talk about this big lie. There were multiple crazy lawsuits. We saw a violent insurrection where five people died and now laws restricting the right to vote. The legacy of the big lie, still a lie. Do you think well be dealing with the danger of this for years to come . No question. No question. These lies, look, this is a cancer in the body politic. This continued harping on this falsehood, on the lies around the result of the 2020 election is that is a core grievance that the former president and his followers and his acolytes on the hill who continue to mouth and amplify his messages, this is the thing that ignites the fire of the grievance of extremism and violence and continues to divide us. This is not going away any time soon. Certainly not as long as hes still out there pushing it. Lets talk about another big lie that hes pushing. That Nothing Happened january 6th. Dont believe what you saw with your own eyes. This is what he said about officials charging the insurrectionists. Here it is. They go after people that, i guess you would call them, lean toward the right. And they wave American Flags in many cases. Theyre waving the American Flag and they love our country. It was zero threat right from the start. It was zero threat. Look. They went in. They shouldnt have done it. Some of them went in and theyre hugging and kissing the police and the guards. You know . They had great relationships. I mean, andrew, its beyond, this video is horrifying. It tells the truth. How insulting are trumps comments to the Law Enforcement officers still with us who were beaten, they were tased, they were almost killed trying to protect our capitol. The disgraceful disrespect, the abandonment of the men and women who put their lives on the line every day. It is just outrageous. Three of them died in that attack. 138 were injured. I just, it compels me to say to my Brothers And Sisters in the Law Enforcement community, many, many of whom are conservative in their political beliefs and thats perfectly fine. But this crowd and this man, this former president , they are not supporters of yours. They do not support you. I dont care how many thin blue line flags they hang on their cars. There is nothing to this. You see when it comes right down to it, he lies about what happened, which weve all seen a thousand time on video. He minimizes their sacrifice and he abandons them in their time of need when they should be being propped up and recognized for their heroism. He says it is hugs and kisses and there was no threat. It is absolutely outrageous. Thank you. I appreciate you coming on the show. Thank you. Fox news face nooug legal trouble for pushing trumps big lie to the tune of 1. 6 million. Dominion voting systems is calling out specific fox hosts. This is us talking taxsmart investing, managing risk, and all the ways schwab can help me invest. This is andy reminding me how i can keep my investing costs low and that theres no fee to work with him. Heres me learning about schwabs satisfaction guarantee. Accountability, i like it. So, yeah. Andy and i made a good plan. Find your own andy at schwab. A modern approach to wealth management. 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I didnt get my madness last year, so were doing double the madness this year. Dominion voting systems filing a 1. 6 billion lawsuit against fox today. They said the right wing media outlet recklessly disregarded the truth while pushing the big lie that the election was stolen from trump. The suit methodically lays out their claim. Some of fox most prominent hosts repeated misinformation and gave trumps attorneys a platform to spread lies. Thats what it says in the filing. Lies like these. The Dominion Software system has been tagged as one allegedly capable of flipping votes. A broadly coordinated effort to actually bring down this president by ending his second term before it could begin. Electronic voting is not as secure as traditional hand counting, period. They have businesses in venezuela, caracas, cuba, and there are also links to china. The servers are somewhere else and considered proprietary and they wont touch them. They wont permit them to be touched. The key point to understand is that the smartmatic system has a back door that allows the votes to be mirrored and monitored. Well, a spokesperson for fox tells cnn the network is proud of its election coverage and describes it as being in the heist tradition of american journalism. Okay. So joining me now, cnn legal analyst, a former federal and state prosecutor. Oh, hello, good evening. Listen, youre the legal mind here. Isnt the evidence right there playing out across the countrys tv screens . Yeah. Its right in front of us. This lawsuit is a real threat to fox news. This thing has real teeth. There are two things that dominion has to prove. One, the statements were false, we dont need to waste any time only. We know the statements were false. The second thing is that fox news knew they were false or recklessly disregarded it. One of the main architects of this big lie has said this was so ridiculous that no reasonable person would have believed it. Now fox news, what will they say . We were so dpum we believed it . Theyre in a tough spot. Yeah. I want to read from the suit. And it says here, it says, fox took a small flame and turned it into a forest fire as the dominant Media Company among those viewers dissatisfied with the election results, fox gave these Fictions A Prominence they otherwise would never have achieved. This suit is a systematic take down of foxs role in spreading that big role and dominion is not expected to settle here. So what if they take it all the way to court . What will we learn here . Boy, well, first of all, fox has to be a little worried about the discovery process. Thats the process where you get information from the other party. If they get to that point, if they dont settle this thing, that means dominion gets to take depositions of fox news executive producers, see memos, emails, that kind of thing. It could be really ugly for fox. There will be accountability. It is a 40 night. Ill bring some good news. The big lie is crumbling from within. Were seeing the leading perm traitor, sydney powell, fox news is even saying our own anchors arent to be believed. So theyre turning on each other and the big lie is being exposed. Dominion is specifically naming Maria Bartiromo in this lawsuit. Tucker carlson, lou dobbs, sean hannity, some of the most popular hosts. Dobbs show was actually canceled two days after another company sued fox over the same lies. So how much risk if any are they personally facing . Yeah, look. Theres real risk. Youre responsibility for what you say on air. And fox has taken this interesting tack with regard to its anchors. When Tucker Carlson got sued, fox argued successfully at the trial court level, he is not to be believed. Who takes him seriously . He is a carnival barker. At a certain point if you call your people carnival barkers, you become a circus. So i dont know how long fox can sustain that line of defense and remain a viable news entity. We shall see. Thank you. I appreciate your time. Thanks. The defense secretary lloyd austin is trying to change how the military addresses issues of race. But gop senator tom cotton putting Forth Legislation to understand racism in our institutions. Re became my focus. Lavender baths always calmed him. So we turned bath time into a business. And building it with my son has been my dream job. At Northwestern Mutual, our version of Financial Planning helps you live your dreams today. Find a Northwestern Mutual advisor at nm. Com the epson ecotank. No more buying cartridges. Look at all this ink it comes with. Big ink tanks. Lots of ink. No more cartridges. Incredible amount of ink. The epson ecotank. Just fill and chill. Aliens are real, alright. Theres just too much evidence. Kill weeds not the lawn with roundup for lawns products. Its moving day. 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Talking about this with the former Army Ground Commander in iraq. He is also the coauthor of hunting the caliphate. Thank you. So. You heard him. Senator cotton is calling Critical Race Theory left wing nonsense. He doesnt want it taught in the military. What do you say to that . First of all, good evening, don. I think the legislation isnt necessary. I served with and i know many of the Senior Leadership in the u. S. Military and i trust them. We need to trust them. Trust them as far as their judgment. Their mission is to build Cohesive Team that can fight and win americas wars. And so they are using a portion of Critical Race Theory, not all of it. Not all of it is appropriate. Theyre using a portion of it to help troops to understand the complexity of race and help them to understand the legacy of systemic racism in our country. Those are factbased. So weve got to trust our Senior Leadership. You know, his bill its not a new idea. Trump ended the Training In September Which Biden has reversed but back then, trump called training on subjects like Critical Race Theory and White Privilege unamerican propaganda. Why are they so afraid of this conversation . Im not sure. It is interesting that we would like to look at america through rose colored glasses. America has a racist past. Were still dealing today with some of the legacy of systemic racism. That hasnt changed why people fight and defend this country. I served 34 years in the military. Multiple combat tours and fought for our country. Africanamericans have fought for our country for decades, centuries, even though they came home oftentimes to jim crow, the jim crow south or even slavery. So im not sure why we want to whitewash that. Listen, for the people at home, youre one of just a few africanamericans who have reached a level of a two star general or higher. Youve had a career spanning decades. Over that career youve faced egregious forms of racism. What has your experience been like . Can you please tell our viewers . Sure. Racism is, you know, throughout the military, just like the country, the military is merely, you know, an example of what goes on in our country. But what we cant do is allow racism to define us. One thing our parents raised us on. The Sweetish Revenge is achievement in successful so you dont let racism define you. You continue on your mission. Very well said. Very well said. Listen. I learned so much from you. We would love to have you back and continue these conversations and thank you for your service. The entire country is very proud of you. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you. Colorado mourning the ten lives lost from the shooting in boulder including suzanne fallon. She was many things to many people. A mother, a daughter, an aunt, an actress. Her life partner joins me to share her stories next. Tonight. Ill be eating loaded tots for march madness. doorbell thanks boo. 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So we are learning the gunmen charged with killing ten people at the supermarket purchased his guns legally after passing a background check. Investigators still dont know the motives for the massacre and as the funerals begin next week, the country is so desensitized to gun violence that it seem were turning our attention away. But the grieving process is only beginning for the loved ones of those who died. I want to bring in my guest. His life partner is sadly one of the victims. Hello to you. Im so sorry for what youre going through tonight. How are you doing tonight . Well, i have a lot of support. I have a few friends that will be over. You know, most people that i ask, i say, you know, fine. Thats really all i can say. Im looking at Pictures Of You and her. What a smile she had. It looks like it just lights up the room. Thats her tell me about her. Because you have a very special love story. You met years ago, and then reconnected at the same theater 25 years later . Talk to me about that. Well, thats its not all true. Yes, it was a different theater. So, the theater was the victorian theater. And we did Glass Menagerie together when we were both right around 30 years old. And and we dated for a handful of months. And then, we went on our way. And and did our life. And then, 26 years later, i was doing the closing show of a theater called Germinal Stage and they had been open for 25 years and she saw my name in the paper. And decided to come to the show. And weve been together, ever since. Oh. Yes. Weve been till now. How long ago was that . How long ago was that, again . Eight and a half years. Thats thats really listen. You got back together. And thats fabulous, right . That that and its its still an amazing story, even though it wasnt the same theater. I think its still just as as wonderful. Thank you. Thank you. I just had to correct that, just for the people that were actually there. Oh, thats okay. Thats okay. Listen. And you you raised a wonderful son. She was a talented actress. She is described, by her friends, as fearless, as funny, as warm, and giving. Tell me, what was she like, for you . Well, i will start with the stuff that sounds weird. She was a bit of a bulldog. So, she was beautiful at it, but she would ask, nicely. If she didnt get the answer she wanted or needed, she would ask for the supervisor. She would not let it go. You know, most of us, we get a call. We call our bank and they say, cant do it today. And we go, okay. And we hang up the phone. Well, she would have the president of the company there, before too long. So thats i say bulldog, with love in my heart. She had a way of of loving, that was just not like other people. I dont know. I dont know everybody. But when she loved you, it was deep. And if you needed anything, at any time, she was there. She was there, no questions asked. And i dont know too many people like that. Lot of people talk that way. I dont know how many people actually are. Yeah. Yeah. Well, fee, you know, these what else . What else about her . Go ahead. Can i ask you so lets talk about these Mass Shootings. And i hate to to ask you about this but answer as much as you want. These Mass Shootings happen so often in this country. The attention is intense, at first. And then, as more time goes on, the stories, they fade from the headlines. Fade from the news. But this is never going to go away for you. And quite frankly, for the boulder community, as well, will it . No. No. I you know, i guess, its a little bit of my politics but and i think suzanne felt the same way. I dont really hate the man who shot her. I i dont like him, much. But i sort of blame society. This has been going on for a long time. How many times, on tv, does somebody get shot . 500 times a day, kids are watching somebody get shot. No no consequences, no anything. What do you expect them to be when they grow up . So, im sorry if that was dark but thats how i feel about it. No, its not dark at all and thats what you said you dont hate. Do you forgive . I know you cant forget, but do you forgive . Might take a little while. Might take a little while. Yeah. Well, i can see, and i feel your presence. You are a good man. And i just its just so awful. I am so sorry. And and and i appreciate you so much for sharing your story, and especially her story, so that we can pay tribute to her. And you can honor her here, on on international television. Thank you so much. Okay . Yeah. And and i i may i say that her son is almost just as beautiful a person. And shes she she loved me, like nobodys ever loved me. And i think a lot of people feel the same way. Thanks, fee. Be well. Well be right back. Thank you. 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