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argument. here is- the argument i would make with fauci. i had it a little with him tonight. you guys are playing too safe. this is a balancing test. okay. there are going to be cases but the vaccine, the rate of vaccine, who we have gotten vaccinated already. the fact that there is an increase in masking. the messaging has been working, with trump out of the way. not all surges are the same. and you have to balance that, against the depression to the economy, the depression to our way of life, which is straight-up depression. and you are playing it too safe. >> how are they -- better safe, than sorry. i don't believe in playing it too safe. >> i agree with you, but i am saying here's the argument you could make. >> oh, got it. >> is you are playing it too safe. give me a vaccine passport. i want to be able to go and businesses say, the vaccinated only. so, don and chris get vaccinated. now, we can go to dinner. >> what the president said. give me a patriot passport. give me an american passport that says we should look out for our fellow man. this is not about being selfish. hey, i got mine! you get yours. that's what people are saying. so, if i -- if i get this -- if i get the shot, let's say, i'm fu fully vaccinated tomorrow. i'm not going to run out and flaunt it. and then, take this mask and, throw caution to the wind, i'm going to burn it. you know why? because i care about other people. i care about something more than myself. i care that there may be someone who has a pre-existing examine who may not have been vaccinated. i care that there is a woman who is trying to get pregnant, who has concerns about the vaccine, and may not have taken it, yet. >> i agree. >> or a woman who is pregnant, who has not taken the vaccine because she is worried about her unborn kid. i get that because, why? i am a thinking, compassionate, echl empathetic person. and i just don't have politics at the top of my head. >> i agree. >> why don't you just be a -- why don't you just be a decent-human being and stop trying to be so negative? and get dr. fauci or joe biden to -- here's the thing of the here is the thing. joe biden is doing a fantastic job when it comes to the pandemic. he is saying all the right things, he is doing all the right things. he is getting shots in people's arms. he is following the science. he is not giving you lies. he is not telling you that light and bleach and disinfectant is going to help you when you inject it inside of your body. so, stop it, on the right, because the guy you had in the office did really dumb stuff. and told you crazy things, lied about you, gas-lighted you, and you fell for it and you believed it. and now, you are walking around and you don't want to get the vaccine. why? because you say you don't trust it but you really don't want to get it because joe biden is doing a great job with it. and that is the truth. now, take that to the bank. >> now, for those people. >> as my grandmother used to say, put that in your pipe and smoke it. go on. >> there is that group, and i think rand paul's probably playing to them. >> yeah, he is. >> and that is what it is. >> i need water, after that. >> i know, i can imagine. i've never seen anybody say so many words, in a row. the thing -- don't choke -- the thing is that you, also, have a lot of people who -- who would benefit from being incentivized by something, in addition to a sense of humanity and altruism. and i don't think there is anything wrong with the messaging or political suggestion of that because, look, the science, as it's been suggested to us from faufrpci a others is that it's a maybe, not a must, that you can still spread infection. it's maybe. so the argument becomes, all right, how much of a maybe? because you are really not giving people a hell of a lot of incentive to get the vaccine because the vaccine is for you. it keeps you from getting so sick that you would have to go to the hospital. it's not so much about transmission. that's what masks are about. so, i think that they could play it a little bit more aggressively. but that's different than saying, you're lying, you don't know. there's no science. that's my -- that's where rand paul and i take ways. there are different ways to look at it. but you are looking at it as a position of just bringing down fa fauci and that ruins his argument. >> how about -- let's see. if i was -- i am coming up with a slogan. so, you know how we say, don't hate, participate? don't hate, if you are extreme -- on the extremes, moderate. what about that? but the best one, i think, i just came up with this as you were talking. >> genius! >> don't hate, vaccinate! how about that? >> wow, i can't believe it took you that long to get to that. i think, cha-cha had that in like a project for 5th grade. >> turned it in. >> people got to get vaccinated because that's how you get back to your loved ones. >> i will tell you this. i have gone over to -- which is near where we work -- the javits center. >> it is well run. to be fair, forget about new york because that's my brother, right? biden's doing a good job, i don't disagree with that. his team is doing a good job, because they are allowed to do their job. and the states are killing themselves to get this done. >> yep. >> so there is a lot of components to success. failure has one father. success has many. but biden is not stepping them from doing their job, and that can make all the difference. and i look forward to this time that i think the media's getting ahead of. the media's getting ahead of this reverse curve of supply to demand. we're not there, yet. >> nope. >> we have a lot of people, who want the vaccine, and can't get it. you're looking at two of them. right now. >> well, this is what -- see -- see my water? it's more-than-half full. so, that's what i am thinking. it's not like, you know, almost empty or -- it's more than half full. so, the glass is half full and it's not half empty. so, i prefer to be optimistic about the summer. and i prefer to, don't hate, vaccinate. >> you know, just cause you said it, doesn't mean nobody else has said it, before. nor does it make it genius. you know, one book, and all the sudden, here it comes. >> we got to get to the news. we got to get to the news. >> d lemon, i love you. thank you for sharing your book with the radio audience, today. they loved what you had to say. >> that was great. they loved what we had to say. >> i didn't get to say much, to be honest. >> i know. but thata change because usuallu talk more than i do. no one loves chris more than chris. and if you don't believe, ask chris. >> i've got no competition in loving chris. i come in first, every time. i love you, d lemon. >> "cnn tonight." i am don lemon. thank so much for watching, everyone. so, on to the serious stuff, now. and we all need a little levity and a little friendship and a little love, in the times that we're in. so, that's why chris and i do what we do every night and we hope you enjoy it. but now, let me get to the news. because we know -- we know where the hate comes from. we don't know, yet, whether the shooting spree that killed eight people in and around atlanta, six of them asian women, we don't know, yet, whether it was a hate crime. at least, not according to police. we know what we think, in our heads, and where that takes us, right? where common sense takes us. but police haven't declared it that, yet. so, let's see. we know asian-americans across this country are terrified. >> so, is the investigation -- the investigation into a possible-hate crime. is that still on the table? >> our investigation is looking at everything so nothing is off the table for our investigation. >> so that's atlanta police and here is what they are saying. they are saying that they don't have a position, on whether this is a hate crime, but nothing is off the table. okay? and nothing's off the table. but we do know that the president, president biden, and vice president harris are set to meet with atlanta mayor, keisha lance bottoms, and asian-american leaders are doing that tomorrow. even before this horrible case, though, these terrible murders. asian-americans faced rising hate, racist comments, serious violence. but like i said, we know where the hate comes from. look. we shouldn't dance around this. we should not pretend that we haven't heard it, with our own ears, over and over and over and over. >> that time we called it the wuhan virus, right? wuhan. >> china's coverup of the wuhan virus allowed the disease to spread all over the world. >> i can name kung flu. i can name 19 different versions of names. kung flu. yeah. >> like, see, i like the china virus. or i like the plague from china. >> it's got about 24 names i can call it, from covid to china virus. i can call it the plague. i call it the china plague. >> we, and the whole world, got hit with the china virus. >> the incredible people and families, who suffered so gravely from the china virus. it's a horrible thing, that was put onto the world. >> so, there you go. like all the hate and racism in this country, it was here before the trump presidency. it will be here with us, long after, unless we are willing to do the work to defeat it. but he fed it, and he fed up on it. and when you sow the wind, well, you know what you reap, right? the whirlwind. mayor keisha lance bottoms telling anderson cooper, tonight, it's hard to see this as anything other than a hate crime. a suspect, who killed eight people. six of them, asian women. is a white man, who got the bad-day defense? >> he understood the gravity of it. and he was, pretty much, fed up. and, kind of, at the end of his rope. and yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did. >> eight people are dead. six of them, asian women. and he was having a bad day. just imagine what they might have said about a black suspect or a brown suspect or an asian suspect. or an asian suspect, right? they probably wouldn't have gone right to having a bad day. so, the sheriff says, those comments weren't intended to disrespect -- as disrespect for the victims, the gravity of the tragedy, or to express empathy or sympathy for the suspect. but that spokesman, captain jay baker, has been taken off the spa-shooting case. meanwhile, photos have surfaced, allegedly posted by captain baker, showing shirts with a racist, anti-asian message about covid-19. shirts that say, covid-19 imported virus, by china. chyna. you know, mimicking the president. with the caption, love my shirt. get yours, while they last. china, huh? china, huh? we know where that comes from. we know who said china, over and over and over. the account that posted it has been deleted. cnn was able to access photos through a cached copy. the name on the facebook account matches jay baker, and it claims that the individual is an employee of the cherokee county sheriff's office. when contacted by cnn about the post, baker told cnn, no-additional comment. but, you really only need to hear congressman chip roy, to understand how big the problems of race -- big the problem of race is in this country. right smack in the middle of a hearing on discrimination and hate crimes against asian-american and pacific-islanders, he equates justice with lynching. and then, makes it all about himself. launching into a defense of exactly the kind of rhetoric the hearing was supposed to be condemning. >> we believe in justice, right? there is old sayings in texas about, you know, find the -- all the rope in texas and get a tall, oak tree. you know, we take justice very seriously. and -- and we ought to do that. round up the bad guys. that's what we believe. my concern about this hearing is that it seems to want to venture into the policing of rhetoric, in a free society. free speech. and away from the rule of law, and taking out bad guys. i -- i'm -- i'm not going to be ashamed of saying i oppose the chi-comms, i oh he pose the chinese-communist party. and when we say things like that and we're talking about that, we shouldn't be worried about having a committee of members of congress policing our rhetoric. >> first, he should pull his mask up. but, what is he talking about? let -- let me give you some free advice. okay, sir? let me give you some free advice. lay off the talk about all the rope in texas and the tallest tree. a united states congressman talks openly about lynching. one of the most horrible crimes against people of color in the nation's history. and don't give me that fake, i'm being censored, don't tell me what to say, bs. you could say that you oppose the chinese-communist party. you know that's not what this is about. it's not about chip roy. it's not about the people who have a voice, and a platform. it's about hate! i almost said something. it's about hate. god, i want to say it. and it's about violence. especially, against the people, who don't have that voice and platform. it's about people, across this country, who are terrified. you should be standing up for them, not making this about yourself. that's all we have heard from people, who have -- have been so aggrieved because black, brown, asian, because people don't want to be discriminated against, but you are so aggrieved because you can't say something offensive because you want to say offensive things with impunity. and then, when you are checked on it, when you have to face the consequences for it. you scream, cancel, i'm cancelled! no, you weren't cancelled. you were held accountable. you said something stupid. and you must pay the consequences for it. that's how it works. congressman grace ming getting choked up as she slams roy for what she says is putting a bull's eye on the backs of asian-americans. >> your president and your party and your colleagues can talk about issues, with any other country that you want. but you don't have to do it by putting a bull's eye on the back of asian-americans across this country. on our grandparents, on our kids. this hearing was to address the hurt and pain of our community! and to find solutions, and we will not let you take our voice away from us. >> congressman ted lieu condemning roy's racist rhetoric. and saying, it hurts the asian-american community. >> you can say whatever you want on the first amendment. you can say racist, stupid stuff, if you want. but i'm asking you to, please, stop using racist terms like kung flu or wuhan virus or other ethnic identifiers in describing this virus. i am not a virus and when you say things like that, it hurts the asian-american community. whatever political points you think you are scoring by using ethnic identifies in describing this virus, you are harming americans who happen to be of asian descent. so, please, stop doing that. >> and you know what? it's not just chip roy. congressman rodney davis, telling cnn, the real problem is political correctness. >> it's all political correctness and that's what the american people are sick and tired of the d.c. bubble wanting to determine what is politically correct and what is not. >> it's always some excuse for saying some bs. for being racist or bigoted or letting it slip. maybe, these days, i don't know if it's even letting it slip. people just say it. that's what the former president did. for bigots. just say it right in the open. not behind closed door. right out, in the open. wearing a suit. i know the grammatically-correct thing to say is this is not about political correctness. it ain't about political correctness. okay? if you're listening. this is about hate. it's about hate. hate, that is exploding into violence all across this country. this is about asian-americans, who are afraid to go to the store. afraid to lead their daily lives. wait for a bus. just play with their kids outside. it's about hate. stop making it about you. my freedom. my freedom to be a bigot, to say racist things. my freedom to be it's politically correct, it's cancel culture. please, i'm sick of it. shut up. take a good, long look in the mirror. stop being a bigot. stop it. so, what is the administration going to do about racism and hate in this country? i'm going to ask a top adviser to vice president kamala harris, symone sanders, is next. and just wait until you hear how dr. fauci answers this. >> you want people to get the vaccine? give 'em a reward, instead of telling them that the nagoing t be there for three more years and you got to wear a mask forever. ♪ i've always been running. to meetings. errands. now i'm running for me. i've always dreamed of seeing the world. but i'm not chasing my dream anymore. i made a financial plan to live it every day. ♪ there was a dream ♪ ♪ and one day i could see it ♪ at northwestern mutual, our version of financial planning helps you live your dreams today. find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com president biden, vice president kamala harris, traveling to atlanta tomorrow to meet with mayor keisha lance bottoms, and with asian-american leaders reeling from the spa shootings that killed eight people, including six asian women. the portion of the trip originally planned to promote the new covid relief law has been postponed. so there's lots to discuss. cn -- excuse me, i'm so used to saying cnn -- symone sanders is here, spokesperson for vice president harris. sorry, old habits die hard. >> old habits die hard. >> thank you for talking about this really important thing that you are doing, this event that you are doing. so, symone, the president and vice president meeting with local leaders tomorrow to discuss the horrible-spa shooting spree that killed eight people, including six asian women. what does the administration plan to do to fix this problem? >> don, it's just -- first of all, our hearts go out to the families and friends and the people in the surrounding-atlanta area, who are grieving. today, the president ordered flags to be lowered at half staff. in -- in light of the shooting that happened on tuesday. so, it -- it's just so harrowing and heartbreaking. and the president and vice president have a track record here, don. the administration has a track record here. in january, i'd like to remind folks that the president signed a number of executive orders. specifically, about racial equity. and one of them was, specifically, about addressing the xenophobia and discrimination against the asian-american community here, in the united states. so, tomorrow, this meeting is really to hear from local-community advocates, elected officials, community leaders, about how they are feeling, in the wake of this horrific, horrific shooting. but also, to discuss solutions going forward and the commitments that the president and vice president have made to the aapi community. >> i want to talk, now, about covid and the vaccine. the biden-harris administration is on track to hit 100 million vaccines -- get 100 million vaccines in arms tomorrow. well-ahead of the 100-day goal. i'm sure you ever seen the criticism that the bar was set achievably low. but it's still excellent news. what's the next goal here, symone? >> you know, i have to laugh about the criticism, don. because i remember when the president first announced his goal of 100 million shots, in 100 days. and it was said it was too ambitious. folks said it couldn't be done. and as the president said today, one headline even wrote, it won't be easy. and those folks are absolutely right. but the way that the biden-harris administration got this done was by operationalizing the defense-production act. by really working, our covid team hunkered down. jeff zients and his entire team. increasing access across the country. through the federal pharmacy program, more than 600 community-vaccination sites, partners with community-health centers. and that's how we get to -- we are going to get to 100 million shots in arms, tomorrow. but it's not over, yet. as the president and vice president have said, it is extremely important that folks do not let up. that they -- that we do not let our guard down. and that, when the vaccine becomes available to you, in your community, what -- whichever vaccine it is, that you take it, because you can save lives. and will save communities. >> listen. i know you saw the interview with george stephanopoulos when the president spoke to him earlier this week, and he talked about how vice president harris plays a similar role in -- to one that he had under the obama administration. in a very key way. watch this, and then we'll discuss. >> i'd give my opinion. i was the last guy, and i get to leave. but he's all by himself, to have to make that decision. that's the big difference. >> reporter: is vice president harris the last person in the room? >> most of the time, yes, as a practical matter, yeah, she is. >> so, what advice is the vice president giving president biden on voting rights legislation? democrats introduced that in the senate, yesterday. because without that, republicans are full-speed ahead, restricting access to the ballot box all over this country. >> well, don, access to the ballot box is so, so, so important, and something that both the president and vice president have been champions of their entire career. the president, if he were sitting here, he'd tell you that he presided, when he was chairman of the senate-judiciary committee, over the longest extension of the voting rights act while he was chairman. vice president harris will tell you that she has been a champion working with community leaders, all across this country. specifically, also, in california. when she served as the senator from california. this is an issue of grave importance to the administration. on the anniversary of bloody sunday, both the president and vice president addressed, virtually, crowds in selma, alabama. and talked about the administration's commitment to preserving access to the ballot box for all americans. the president signed an executive order. and this is something you are going to hear more, from the president and vice president, on, very, very soon. >> but, i wonder what her advice is. listen, she knows the senate, right, a little bit more currently than he does. i'm just wondering if she has any advice for him, as to how to get this legislation passed. who to work with in the senate, who might be winnable or what have you. is there anything she offers the president on this issue, especially voting rights that would be helpful to him in the decision and getting it passed? >> well, i'm not going to get into the specific conversations the vice president and the president have. but obviously, the vice president and president and our entire-legislative team, frankly, are in constant communication with folks on the hill. the vice president is very close to a number of her former-senate colleagues. she is making phone calls. we will see, tomorrow, the new senators from georgia. senator -- senator reverend ra raphael warnock and senator jon ossoff. and the vice president, along with the president, believes that voting-rights legislation's extremely important. that h.r.1 that democracy legislation that just passed the house of representatives, should be taken up in the senate. and -- and legislation such -- of importance, such as this, such as the john lewis voting rights abou rights act that i know has yet to come in the senate. democrats and republicans have to work together because issues of access to the ballot box. these are not partisan issues. this is about a fundamental tenet of our american democracy. >> symone sanders, i appreciate you joining us. thank you so much. >> thank you so much, don. see you soon. >> uh-huh. asian-americans across the country facing the fear of unprovoked attacks. two cnn correspondents share their own, very personal experiences, with anti-asian hate. that's next. i'll be eating loaded tots for march madness. 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( horn blaring ) atlanta police say they are still investigating the suspect's motive in the deadly-spa shooting that killed aitd people. six of them, asian. the killing striking fear in many asian-americans who have been dealing with a spike in violence and racism over the past year. maryland governor, larry hogan, whose wife is from south korea, is opening up about the racism his family has been experiencing. >> this is not something new. it's just gotten much, much worse. each of my daughters has a -- a personal story about a very close friend that's gone through some terrible stuff, just recently. friends of my wife. i mean, i've got -- my youngest daughter is afraid to come visit us. her best friend's mother was attacked at a convenience store. my -- my middle daughter. her best friend was on -- getting on a plane with her children. where she was subject to, you know, racist slurs. >> so, i want to talk, now, about this with my cnn colleagues, amara walker and kyung lah, who have spoken so powerfully about this in the past. and are doing it, again, now. so thank you, both, for joining. i really appreciate it. amara, first, i want to get to the scene because you are there, in atlanta, covering this horrific -- these horrific shootings. right before you came on the show last night, you said that someone screamed "virus" at you. what has it been like for you to not only cover anti-asian hatred but to live it? >> it's saddening. but to be honest, it's, also, enraging. it makes you so angry because, you know, i've been spending the last few months looking at videos of our elderly-asian father, grandfathers, and grandmothers being pushed and punched in the face. and killed, in some instances, simply for being asian. and, you know, makes me think of my parents. you know, could this happen to my parents? it makes me call them and say, hey, mom, dad, maybe you shouldn't go on that walk today. maybe it's not the safest thing to do. and also, when i hear people calling me china virus or telling me to go back to my country or my friends, my colleagues, telling me, look, i went to the grocery store the other day. and a woman grabbed her children and jumped back, you know, dramatically. to show me that, you know, i might have the virus. you know, those things make me angry. but also, you're talking about covering the story. i mean, i live in atlanta. so, you know, when i heard what had happened, six out of the eight victims being asian women. that really hit close to home, don, literally and figuratively. and it's a scary time right now for asians. i mean, it -- this -- this is real. the fear is real. and we are under siege. >> kyung, you know, you covered a bunch of republican-campaign events. conservative parts of the country this-past year. you reported about it here on this show and all of cnn programming. places, where people asked where you're from. or if you speak english. you are always very professional act about it. but it has to affect you, no? >> i'm, shockingly, used to it. i think, the best way to put it is that i am numb to it. and it really brought it home last month, when i was with my white producer, kim barryman. we are at a conservative region, where there are very few asians. and she gets into the car and she says why is everybody asking where are you from? and it's something that you just get used to. feeling like you just don't belong. and -- and you just plod ahead. but the reality is that you do belong, but you have to constantly fight and -- and -- and let people know that you do belong. and -- and that is a tiresome thing. it is burdensome. it is annoying. it -- you don't want to feel like a foreigner in -- in your own home. but in many cases, that's what it comes down to. >> yeah. and, you know, in that you had to -- you have to tell your producer that. and i'm sure she had never experienced that before, right? because people see her, your producer, as someone who belongs. and yet, you're just as american, and people wonder where ya from? why -- you know, it's -- it's -- i -- yeah. i don't know. i mean, what do you -- what do you say to that? i don't even know what to ask you because, again, it's so infuriating and it's confounding. >> you just -- you know what? i just never tell them. where am i from? from chicago. well, where are your parents from? the chicago suburbs. oh, you mean that suburb streamlet? it just -- it almost becomes a game because it is so exhausting and it's commonplace and it happens all the time. and really, you just want to say, look. i -- i am from america, just like you. >> yeah. amara, you know, i thought this was -- it was fascinating that you said this. you said that asians had been an invisible minority, for too long, in part because of stereotypes. talk to me about that, if you will. >> yeah. i mean, there is a stereotype that, you know, it's a misconception, really, that all asians are rich. we're educated. we don't have problems. and hence, we can't deal with racism when that is so far from the truth. i think kyung feels this way as well. a lot of us have dealt with racism since the day we were born. i remember being bullied as a child for the way that i look. and so, this is what makes us invisible in the community because people don't think we deal with racism. and hence, we're absent from the conversations about racism and inequality in america. and i also think that some of us need to take responsibility for being invisible. i'm talking about us, in the asian-american community. because, don, there are cultural barriers, right? i mean, we have been raised. a lot of us have been raised to keep our heads down, don't make too much noise. don't, you know, bring attentions to yourselves. and if you are a child of immigrants, you know, my parents always told me, look, amara, you're just luck -- you should be grateful for the opportunities you have in this country, even though i was born and raised here. and so, i think it's been heartening to see more and more asians, fellow asians, speaking up about the hate that they have experienced their entire lives. and more so, lately. but we, asians, have been silent for too long. >> yeah. i think it's sad that -- that has to happen. i -- and i understand the mind s mindset of your parents, because it's really self-preservation, right? and trying to make sure you are safe in this country and people don't mistreat and discriminate against you. i understand that, to an extent but not the way that you do because i'm not in your skin and i am not an asian-american. but what this does show is that we have so much to learn about each other and we should be open to learning about each other and having relationships with people who don't look like us and who are -- who are different than us. and i think that's really, really, the first way around this is seeing people -- seeing each other's humanity. and you don't -- then, you won't be able to discriminate against people. or dehumanize people. if you can really see and feel someone else's humanity. that's my two cents. so, i really appreciate both of you coming on, and being so honest and candid about this. and i think we should have more conversations like this. thank you, really, from the bottom of my heart. i know it's a tough time. thank you, both. thanks so much. >> >> you bet. zblfrlgts new video from the capitol insurrection showing rioters punching and beating police officers. the fbi now asking for your help in identifying the suspects. we'll be right back. you mean us? 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so, initially, that first-broad roundup was people who were easily identifiable. and who were clearly inside the capitol, someplace they should not have been. and were charged with things like violent entry and trespass-related offenses. and then, as they zeroed in on folks who were more culpable and more deeply involved. you saw the conspiracy charges against groups like the proud boys and the oath keepers, and things like that. now, what you are seeing is a real focus on those individuals who are involved in the most violent, the most offensive conduct, that day. and this is a hard process, right? to have to -- they see those incidents happening. they're -- they're able to key in on particularly-identifiable elements like a hat or piece of clothing or a mask that somebody's wearing. and then, they track that indicator, through thousands of hours of videotape. to try to follow where that person went on the day of the events. and now, we're at the point where they're essentially crowd sourcing the identification of those people. so, i really hope that anyone who knows anything about the folks in these videos is reaching out to their >> every time a see a video, it's like i'm seeing this for the first time. i can't -- andrew, i just cannot believe that these police officers went through this and that these people actually did this. i just -- and, look, last night i spoke with a capitol officer, harry dunn. i'm not sure if you saw it. >> i did. >> he talked to me about what other officers experienced. listen to this. >> once i had time to sit down and put it all together, it was just so overwhelming that here we are giving so much and putting our lives on the line to protect democracy and keep it, and we're being called racial slurs, traitors, and any just weapon that these people could use, the terrorists there on the 6th, they were there to cause harm, and they came prepared for a fight. and they hurt us physically and emotionally. >> well, the attempts by trump allies like congressman louie gohmert and other republicans to white-wash the attack and to deny that it was an insurrection, do they just empower the people who did this to attack again? does it just embolden them? >> it does. it does. look, we know that this -- what happened on january 6th was an obscene offense against those things that all americans hold dear, right? democracy and the sanctity of our process of electing presidents and everybody agreeing to the fair and free results of an election. we know now from the report issued by the dni this week about the domestic violent extremist threat in this country that that threat is being accelerated not only by the big lie, the claim that the election was stolen, the grievance around that, but by the people who continue to perpetuate that. these folks, these violent extremists, are emboldened by the acceptance and the acknowledgement of public people who are -- who fail to call them out, who fail to puncture this, you know, let the hot air out of this lie, and who continue to perpetuate these falsehoods to this day. and i think we're at the point now where responsible republicans should understand that by not stepping out in front of this thing and calling it out for what it is, they are part of the problem. >> andrew mccabe, thank you, sir. appreciate it. >> thanks, don. senator rand paul trying to tell the nation's top infectious disease doctor that masks are just theater. i'm going to show you how that went over. 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