started doing people that were younger than 16. you remember their vaccine is for 16 and older. but as you mention, let me show you, this is some of the youngest trial participants that we've now heard. over 6,000 people age 6 months to 11 years. and then you have 3,000 adolescents, age 12 to 17 years. what's happening now is they're going to trial these, again, very young participants with various doses of the vaccine. 25 micro gram, 50 microgram, 100 mi microgram. they're trying to figure out two things, is this safe in people of that age and what is the right dose to give as well. after that, if those things sort of -- if they get the information they need and sprois proven safe, they can bridge these trials to existing trials. meaning, hey, we get a lot of information. they could get some results early. as you heard, dr. fauci said by the fall potentially high school students potentially could have a vaccine. >> i was going to ask you about the timeline there. so if this goes well, sanjay, this would mean when for shots in arms? >> well, you know, so think of it like this, the closer you are in age to the existing trial, so high school students, for example, closest in age to the existing trials of people who are adults, they're probably going to be fastest. and that's because a lot of the data sort of will be able to be extrapolated to that age group more easily. for people who are younger, again, they're still going to be using these bridging trials, but that will probably take a bit longer. so we're talking end of the year, maybe beginning of next year for, you know, the youngest, 6 months to 11 years. >> just one more point on the youngest children. one of the things at least in my reading over the last couple months, too, is the questions about how young for vaccinations because of the way that young children seem to respond to the virus versus slightly older children, which they start to hit later elementary school into middle school. how much is that coming into play here? >> well, it's a very interesting and important question. i've talked to lots of people who have been on the vaccine production side of things and say, look, what are the goals here? are the goals going to be different with the vaccine for young people versus older people? so, for example, we have said for some time that the vaccine we know primarily prevents illness, hospitalizations, deaths. older people are going to be more at risk of those things. younger people far less at risk. but what is the role of their transmission of the virus? this is something that's still a question that comes up all the time around school debates, for example. so as the vaccine going to be something that's more at sort of decreasing infection and transmission? is that the goal? is that the outcome they're really looking for in younger people. if so, it can take longer to get those results. that's the sort of thinking that goes into this. >> on the subject of vaccines, i want to make clear this is an issue right now in europe in other parts of the country because i'm talking about the astrazeneca vaccine which is not approved for use in the united states. several european countries have suspended use of it because some people who had taken it, a very limited number of people who had taken the vaccine, sanjay, correct me if i'm wrong, had experienced certain kinds of blood clotting. what exactly does this mean? what doesn't it mean? and what's your assessment of these countries stopping the use of a vaccine which may very well be saving lives? >> well, what i would say first of all and, you know, we spent a fair amount of time talking to people who are on sort of the regulatory side of this. the antennas are up very high. what i mean is that this is a new product that's going out into the world. so this sort of safety monitoring of this is really high. you're going to catch everything at this point. and then after you catch things you have to say, what did i just catch? is this meaningful or not. that's the phase we're in right now. two things i think jumped out at me when i started looking at some of these reports, one is that the overall background incidents of people just developing blood clots for all sorts of different reasons is maybe even higher than what we're seeing among the vaccinated population. people do get sick as a general rule in a general population vaccine or no vaccine. so, the second thing that popped out is that the nature of the clots among this vaccine seemed to be a little different than what you normally expect with spontaneous blood clotting. so why is that? is that somehow related to the vaccine? right now there is no cause and effect here. this is purely an association and a very, very small one. 17 to 20 million people have now received this vaccine and we're talking i think a couple of dozen, maybe 30 people who have had these sorts of blood clots, really small number. but they're going to assess it. the world health organization weighed in. i want you to read what they said about this because they're already showing their feelings about this. there is no evidence that the incidents are caused by the vaccine and it is important the vaccination campaigns continue so we can save lives and stem severe disease from the virus. the european medical agency is going to meet on thursday and hopefully render some sort of conclusion on this. for the very reasons you mentioned. you can't stall this too long. makes sense. antenna is up. you have to assess and move on quickly. >> i want to play a little bit of what dr. walensky, now director of the cdc had to say yesterday in terms of her concerns for where we are as a country. >> we have seen footage of people enjoying spring break festivities maskless. this is all in the context of still 50,000 cases per day. i'm pleading with you for the sake of our nation's health, these should be warning signs for all of us. cases climbed last spring, they climbed again in the summer, they will climb now if we stop taking precautions when we continue to get more and more people vaccinated. >> this is really not the first time we've heard that urgency, certainly not from her and yet we still do see those pictures. i mean, are you concerned about the message being lost at this point? do you think it's getting through? >> you know, i think it's getting through to a certain segment of the population but maybe not enough people are heeding the warnings to potentially avoid these problems dr. walensky is talking about. look, i'll remind you and all three of us talked about this so much last spring. i'll show this graphic. the united states, italy and france. and i show this graphic because i think when we first started to see what was happening in italy last spring, everyone thought, well, that's italy. that's not going to happen here, right? and then not only did it happen here, as you can see earlier, you know, last year, we surpassed italy. now it's a question of, okay, our cases are lower than they have been in a long time, still not low enough, but again, see what's happening in france and italy? things are starting to click up over there. shut downs and significant mandatory mitigation measures are going into effect there. i mean, it's like how many times do we have to learn this lesson? are we in a better position with the vaccines? yes. are they going to immediately slow down the spread of this virus? no. masks do that. physical distancing does that. all the things that we've been talking about. this is fundamentally just a small strand of genetic material. can't jump very far. doesn't like to be outside. and is fairly, easily contained by a mask. we know that now. if we can just sort of abide by those simple, i think, pretty simple mitigation measures for another few months we can quell this thing down to where we have it contained. we finally have it in a box. we've never had this thing in a box almost since it started spreading in this country more than a year ago. >> sanjay, what does that mean for schools? i know you have a new essay out this morning talking about your evolution, what you've been through with your own kids in school. >> yeah, look, i learned a lot about schools. i was very skeptical because, you know, i thought kids were going to be these super spreaders. i have kids just like you have kids. every time one of my kids came home with a cold, everyone was going to get it in the household at some point. i had no reason to believe it would be any different with this coronavirus. but what we are now seeing from schools is that in schools that have, again these same mitigation measures i mentioned, adequate masking, adequate square footage to physically distance and the doing things outdoors as much as possible, having good ventilation, it makes a difference. you can argue in many school districts the school is a safer haven with regard to viral transmission than the surrounding community. that the positivity rates are lower in schools. there's still a lot of schools that can't abide by those basic mitigation measures. i'm still shocked so many months into this that we still don't have testing. people have given up on this idea you could test and maybe we will still get to that point because $50 billion have been put aside for testing in this new relief plan. but you know, we've been flying blind. but despite that, schools have largely been safe havens. teachers are now increasingly vaccinated. i think schools are still probably going to be okay. >> maybe schools are the model for how we can do things, right? keep the mask on. keep that -- >> it is. >> imagine that. imagine that. sanjay, always good to see you, my friend. thank you. >> you got it. thank you. president biden bringing his message of help to pennsylvania today. as the administration begin assass assasss nationwide tour. part of an effort to combat a potential new wave of infections. cnn's jeremy diamond live at the white house this morning. jeremy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. listen, we're in this strange place in the country right now. we see these cases continuing to decline albeit much more slowly. millions of people getting vaccinated everyday but there's this threat of the coronavirus variants on the horizon. that is why sources have told me that the white house has been racing to prepare for and also try and prevent a fourth coronavirus surge in this country. they have been mapping out different scenarios of how this spread -- this surge might unfold in the united states working to prepare the publics and governors of a fourth coronavirus surge and drawing up plans for how they would respond. and one way that they would respond would be different than anything we've seen in previous coronavirus surges. that is that the white house, according to two senior administration officials have drawn up plans to surge vaccines and vaccine mobile clinics to emerging hot spots around the country to try to blunt the trajectory of potential coronavirus surge. so this would be using the federally-controlled pipeline of vaccines, sending extra shipments of vaccine doses to hot spots through retail pharmacies. or using those mobile clinics that are run or supported by fema. one senior administration official telling me that we have different tools than we did last year and we can't play yesterday's game with this virus. but so much of what this administration is doing to prepare for another surge is about communication. i spoke with dr. ann shukutt, the number two official at the cdc, at the cdc in that role in the trump administration as well and she said the more consistent messaging on the science and the reality of what is happening with this virus is what is helping to prepare the country of the prospect of another surge. this is a white house, of course, telling the public, warning in recent weeks, as the president did last week that things might change even though the national outlook looks much, much better now, things might change, restrictions might need to be reimposed, but they're racing to vaccinate as many americans as possible to try and prevent that surge from happening. erica? 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and some say they slept under a bridge overnight. on pebbles and sand while waiting to get transported to immigration processing facilities. once there, migrants say they get three meals a day. this as cnn learns about 4,200 unaccompanied migrant children are in border patrol custody, attorneys blowing the whistle this weekend about children in overcrowded and unsanitary conditions at this massive temporary immigration processing center in donna, texas, unaccompanied children, including many under 10 years old, are being held. some for five to seven days which is against u.s. law. peter shea representing thousands of unaccompanied minors in federal custody and says capacity at the donna facility is 1,000 detainees. right now it's holding about 2,000. >> it's untenable situation. the administration needs to address immediately. >> reporter: the head of homeland security directed fema to help credit more shelters for unaccompanied children and move them out of border patrol custody quickly. do everything they can do take care of unaccompanied children in their care. mothers entering with children, many are released at this bus station in brownsville. >> why did you come here? she said the economic crisis in her country is very severe. >> reporter: the reasons migrants say they're trekking to the united states varies. some, like this gentleman, says he lost everything during a recent hurricane in honduras. and this woman says the toughest part of her journey was when her daughter was hungry and she has no food she's here because of the lack of jobs and abundance of violence in her home country. now, in prior years, cnn has been granted access to immigration processing centers. sometimes even just pen and paper. this time my team and i have been here for a week and we have asked border patrol and custom and border patrol access to the facility you see behind me and other processing centers and that access has been denied. we also asked about the migrants say they've been sleeping under a bridge overnight, waiting to get transported to processing facilities and, john, we have not heard back. >> rosa, thank you for asking the questions. thank you for being there. joining me now is beard roberta jacobson. thank you for being with us. i know you were able to hear rosa's piece right there, and obviously there's a lot that we're not being allowed to see, but we did hear some stories about the conditions that people are being kept in. are these conditions good enough? >> well, i think it's very clear, john, that we want to make sure that children, unaccompanied minors, are taken care of appropriately. and that's why we're doing everything we can to make sure we have facilities that are appropriate for children so that they can be processed quickly and moved to sponsors, families, foster homes. that's what hhs does well, but we have numbers that require that we look for additional facilities. we've also done a number of things to make sure that this goes more smoothly, embedding hhs personnel with our colleagues, rescinding a trump era memorandum of agreement that made it harder for parents or families to come forward to claim these children. all of those things are helping. >> there has been criticism that these are things that should have been done before changing the policy about unaccompanied minors coming over the border. so why weren't they done before? >> well, i think it's important to understand that this administration has been in office six or seven weeks. we've moved swiftly to make sure that we restore humanity to our immigration policy. and in doing so, that obviously means we have to treat people and children especially well. we're moving really quickly, a request for information for additional facilities went out immediately. but it's important that we make sure children are moved out of border patrol stations, secretary mayor ka said it well. but we also have to look at the other end of this chain. the people in the story that were talked to, talked about the results of two hurricanes in 15 days. so that's why we're speeding feeding programs, economic programs to make sure that they can maintain their homes in their home countries. >> i think those are efforts that are widely agreed upon as being noble and productive in the long term. but in the short term, i'm talking weeks, weeks at this point, what is the administration doing to reduce the number of unaccompanied minors coming over the border? >> well, i think it's important to understand that we've been talking with the mexican, the guatemalan, the salvadoren governments since the day we came to office, working with them to make sure we're speeding humanitarian aid which is increasing. that's quick dispersing to make sure that we are working with them to slow down the flow especially during a period of covid. our relationship with the mexican government is very good. we have to work, as i say, at all elements of this problem. so, we don't think that addressing the causes of migration are things that are only in the long term. they're also short-term measures to quickly speed injections of economic assistance, feeding assistance, so that people don't feel they have to leave. >> you've spoken about the message manipulation that is taking place with smugglers, sending these message to families and children coming to the united states. democratic congressmen henry -- i'm using democratic politicians specifically because it would be great to get politics out of this, he has this to say about the message. listen. >> this friday i was there and i talked to some of the people that had come across. about 20 of them. i asked them which message have they heard? never heard the president. but they heard from their friends and neighbors that were coming across, they saw things on tv that people were coming across and they were getting recruited by people to come over across. so, it has to be a strong message because with all due respect the administration's message is not coming through. >> the administration's message is not coming through says congressman quellar. why? why isn't it getting through? >> i think you have to understand that the smugglers are agile and quick and word of mouth gets through and they are exploiting people's hope and desperation. our own message is getting out less than smugglers. we always know that. but we are doing everything we can. that includes spanish language radio, social media, making sure that we convey the message that the border is not open, that the majority of people will be returned. and that it is not ever a good idea to come in this irregular fashion. but the smuggler's message is very pervasive. they prey on people. and they prey on their hope and they tell them things that simply aren't true. but we are fighting back. >> it's not just those people who are getting that message. the mexican president said the other day of the migrants, they see president biden as the migrant president. how do you respond to that? >> well, i think what president lopez is reflecting is the fact that president biden came into office with a much more humane message. with a message that we were going to enforce our laws but also have a humane migration system. and i think what he means is that we are going to treat people fairly. we are going to reform our immigration system. and so, while i understand what he was saying, i think that it's not the way we would put it. it is a more humane system, but it is not open borders. and it is not the fact -- we're going to enforce our law. >> a month ago president biden told congress he was going to raise the refugee cap to more than 62,000 which is up from president trump's record low level of 15,000. but president biden has not yet signed the paperwork on this. why? >> well, i think, look, as we dismantle various of the trump administration's policies of cruelty, including the record low levels of refugees, we have to make sure we're doing it in a way that is well considered than responds to where the need is. so i'm sure that we will be acting on that. the president will act on that. but we're doing so in a deliberate way as we are with all of these policies. >> ambassador roberta jacobson, we appreciate you coming on "new day." please come back. this is an issue again, great to remove the politics of this and try to get the right message out to the right people. thank you. >> agreed. thank you, john. so as the white house tries to fight vaccine hesitancy, the anti-vax movement just got a big boost from a very loud voice. visible is wireless that doesn't play games. no surprise fees, legit unlimited data for as little as $25 a month. and the best part, it's powered by verizon. but it gets crazier. bring a friend every month and get every month for $5. which is why i brought them. two $5-a-months right here. hey. hey. plus the players of my squad. hey. what's up? 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if you're going to change the policy on unaccompanied minors, make sure you have the system set up to absorb them and they're human beings. i hate talking about it as statistics. these are kids, my kids' age, coming across. you have to have the facilities in place and they just put online now, weeks after the fact, this dallas convention center. >> that's right. there were so many legitimate complaints from critics of the trump administration's policy, this whole idea of kids in cages being in inhumane policy. and you see now that the biden administration wasn't really prepared for what we're seeing now, which is an influx of kids to the border fleeing desperate and terrible situations in their home country, situations that are fueled quite frankly by gangs and the appetite for drugs in this country. so we see now what's happening. they do seem to have been caught unaware, caught unprepared for what was to come. and they have for a while been saying, well, you know, the trump administration did this and they're coming in and they've only been there for a number of weeks at this point. but, now this is where the rubber meets the road and they are really going to have to come up with some solutions. they don't want to call it a crisis. it is a crisis. it's been a crisis for decades. and there are only so many solutions that are going to work here, particularly solutions aren't rooted in those countries. this is a crisis from those countries, those situations are so terrible and desperate people are willing to risk their lives to come here and even if they face having to be warehoused in the dallas convention center, that in some ways for a lot of these folks is better than the situations they face at home. >> it is as you point out absolutely a crisis. much more than a problem. we want to touch on what's happening here when it comes to the vaccine. and david, what's interesting is we heard from president biden yesterday asked specifically about would donald trump be a helpful messenger. yes, maybe. but i really want to look more to local leaders to faith leaders, to folks in the community. that's one message. and then you have, you know, the mouthpiece on fox at night saying we shouldn't trust this vaccine as we have all of this polling that shows republicans and specifically white republicans, are really hesitant to get a shot. how do you counter that, david? how do you counter that messaging if you are this administration? because as the president pointed out, they probably don't want to listen to him. >> yeah. i think it's an important point because i think president trump could be helpful and someone who has gotten the vaccine, he understands it's effectiveness, its importance for ultimately sanjay said earlier in the program, putting the virus in a box which is why vaccines are so important and to get to that point where we have a high enough percentage of americans who are vaccinated and that's what the public health officials are telling us. i agree with president biden. i think working with local leaders and spreading that information, they're the closest to the people. they're the closest to those mass vaccination sites to drugstores and other places where this will happen. i don't know why people would listen to tucker carlson about the vaccine over public health officials. it doesn't make any sense. i know tucker. he knows better than that. i think it's really unfortunate. but we got to keep, you know, keep our eye on the fact that most people are getting vaccinated. most people understand that it's the healthy thing to do. >> maybe he got a medical degree at his sailing prep school. nia, i am concerned when people who have a platform like that use it that way. i'm also concerned when you see in congress axios had yesterday that only 75% of congressional members who have the vaccine available to them have chose on the get vaccinated. now we're seeing certain senators explain why they didn't. ron johnson says because he had covid. we know you of course still should be vaccinated after that. but you really need everyone on board here. and it seems to me that they are try trying to -- >> that's right. it's unclear why. there has been an anti-vaccine movement going on in this country for years now. and perhaps this is a part of that as well. but it is highly irresponsible for somebody like tucker carlson to sound like he's a doctor in an anti-vaxxer essentially saying that people shouldn't get the vaccine. there was a really interesting piece in the washington post that looked at some of these trump supporters. and they essentially said they need to be educated. they listened to i think it was tom freedman, the former director of the cdc, he was part of this focus group. he informed them about the vaccine that has been based on years and years of research, that it wasn't really something that was cooked up over months, of course, the name operation warp speed makes it seem like that. and it sounds like they don't necessarily want to listen to presidents, whether it's president trump in terms of whether or not to get the vaccine, experts, people in their local communities, it's doctors, also they're not necessarily taking their cues from people who are people like tucker carlson, politicians sounds like a lot of folks at least in this focus group were able to be swayed into getting a vaccine after kind of intense conversations about how good the vaccine could do them. that is one approach that this administration is going to have to take. you see local officials people like brian kemp in georgia really focussing on this problem of white republicans and figuring out how to address it because it's a major problem. if such a huge segment of the population decides they don't want to get a vaccine. >> nia, david, thank you both very much. >> thanks. symbol of division in washington may soon be coming down. big changes coming to the capitol. that's next. still your best friend. and now your co-pilot. still a father. but now a friend. still an electric car. just more electrifying. still a night out. but everything fits in. still hard work. just a little easier. still a legend. just more legendary. chevrolet. making life's journey, just better. tempur-pedic's mission is to give you truly transformative sleep. so, no more tossing and turning... because only tempur-pedic's proprietary material adapts and responds to your body. so you get deep, uninterrupted sleep. during the luxe event save $300 on our most premium mattresses. do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? 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>> whitney wild for us. thank you so much for showing us. lawyer for derek chauvin asking the judge to delay and relocate the trial in the wake of a $27 million settlement the city of minneapolis reached with george employed's family. he claims the news make it impossible for his client to get a fair trial. cnn's omar jimenez live in minneapolis. i was interested the judge sort of agreed that the timing of the announcement at a minimum unfortunate. >> reporter: that's right. and even attorneys we have spoken to say at the very least it's unusual. the basic idea is that attorneys for derek chauvin are concerned that the timing of this settlement damaged this idea that prospect of jurors should be avoiding news about this case since it was likely hard to do with this record settlement. to use their words, they were gravely concerned about the timing here. now, judge peter cahill denied their request for -- to reject more jurors since they were given a set amount and that's part of what they wanted in this case. along with a venue change and a potential delay in this trial. so he denied the request for extra jurors. he said he's going to take that delay of trial under consideration mainly because he does say he wishes city officials would stop talking about this case but also says he does not believe there is any evil intent on the timing of this settlement to impact the criminal proceedings in any way. now, outside of that, things have been moving along pretty smoothly in regards to jury selection where at nine of the 14 that are necessary, which includes 2 alternates. we don't know their identities we know some demographic information about them. three are white men in their 20s and 30s. two are white women in their 50s. one biracial woman in her 20s. another hispanic man in his 20s. and another -- two black men in their 30s. and one thing now to watch for as we wait for court to get going again in an hour is whether more and more prospective jurors are rejected because of too much exposure to this past news. we had one juror in the morning saying she nearly gasped when she saw the news and she was rejected shortly after. so of course if that continues we'll see if that has any impact on judge peter cahill's consideration. for right now court resumes in an hour with jury selection to begin an hour after that. >> we're watching all of this, omar, very interesting. thanks so much for being with us this morning. protests outside the georgia state capitol as republican lawmakers debate restrictions on voting. the new and very public campaign to pressure major corporations to join the fight next. urance for veterans like martin. when a hailstorm hit, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa my plaque psoriasis... ...the itching ...the burning. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. my psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen... painful. emerge tremfyant™ with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... ...can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. tremfya® is also approved for adults with active psoriatic arthritis. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. tremfya®. emerge tremfyant™ janssen can help you explore cost support options. keeping your oysters business growing has you swamped. you need to hire. i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at indeed.com/promo opportunities are all about timing. so if you're turning 65 or retiring soon, it's time to take advantage of a plan that gives you more for your medicare dollar: an aarp medicare advantage plan from unitedhealthcare. call unitedhealthcare today to get $0 copays for all primary care doctor visits, $0 copays on preventive dental, and $0 copays on hundreds of prescriptions. in 2019, members saved an average of $7,200 on prescriptions. you'll even get free annual eye exams, and free designer frames. don't miss your shot. if you're turning 65 or retiring soon, learn about our wide choice of plans, including ppo options, call unitedhealthcare today. we'll walk you through your choices and find the right plan for you. catching a good opportunity is all about timing. so, enroll today, before the moment slips away. it's time to take advantage. wondering what actually goes into your multivitamin? 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>> i think that the business community does face a real question here. as one of the georgia organizers said to me, every big company in georgia was tweeting out every day during black history month, their appreciation of martin luther king and appreciation of black history in general. now when black futures are on the line as this person said to me, will they be silent. i think there will be enormous pressure on companies to get involved but it's going to be hard to stop many of these laws in the red states themselves given the republican strength in those legislatures. the key really, john, this is an historic crossroads for the country is whether democrats can find the way to curtail or eliminate the filibuster to allow them to pass the senate version of hr-1 which establishes a nationwide floor of voting rights. guarantees every voter same-day and automatic voter registration. access to on-demand absentee balloting and a guaranteed period of early voting. without that, you're going to see, i think, a steady progression. there really will be nothing in the way of this further tightening the screws, ratcheting down this voter suppression because it's unlikely the supreme court is going to act. it's a stark question for what democracy looks like over the next decade. it's the most important decisions democrats face. whether they curtail the filibuster to pass hr-1. >> the leading democrat, president biden, has shown no willingness or desire to pass that. >> biden talks about this on friday in georgia. >> we'll see. >> ron brownstein, thanks. we'll talk to you soon about a new book you have coming out. "new day" continues right now. >> spring break so we're going to l.a. to have fun. >> for the sake of our nation's health, these should be warning signs for all of us. >> italy, france, spain and germany suspended use of the astrazeneca vaccine. >> there's no documented death that's been linked to a covid vaccine. we do not want people to panic. >> two suspects worked to assault u.s. capitol police officer brian sicknick. >> this is a huge development. they actually have photographs showing one of the two defendants holding what is believed to be a chemical substance. >> this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." alisyn off. erica hill with us. >> good morning. >> we have news happening now. we learned of a new clinical trial launched b

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