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Transcripts For CNN CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow and Jim Sciutto



very good monday morning. i'm jim sciutto. >> and i'm poppy harlow. we hope you had a nice weekend. a busy weekend, certainly in washington. right now the house is poised to vote on a bill that could grant much-needed relief to millions of americans. >> and send checks out to americans possibly within days. and just an hour from now, the cdc is going to announce long awaited guidelines for fully vaccinated americans. in other words telling you what you can and can't do after you receive those crucial shots. let's begin with elizabeth cohen. so elizabeth, tell us, one, what we expect to be in these guidelines, if we know, and just how essential they have as more and more americans get vaccinated. >> oh, jim, this is so essential. about 12% of american adults have been fully vaccinated. and i'm sure you know because you've gotten the questions, i know i've gotten them, a lot of people have gotten them, i'm vaccinated and what could i do now that i couldn't do before. questions like if i'm fully vaccinated and my elderly grandmother is fully vaccinated, can she and i hug? if i'm vaccinated, but my best friend isn't vaccinated, can we hug? can we sit in the same room? should we be masked or six feet apart? that is the questions people have and they want to know what to do and underneath that is the question i went to the trouble of getting vaccinated, is not always easy, what goodies does that give me, what benefits does that give me? i've been told from sources in the administration, tht not entirely prescriptive and think that means coy go bowling or sit on a bus if it is only halfway full. it is not going into each individual scenario but will address broad terms of who could i be with indoors, unmasked and unsocial distancing and do i still need to keep distance? jim and poppy. >> an hour from now we'll know more. thanks very much. the next 24 hours on capitol hill will be critical for many, many americans in need of economic aid. the democratic led house hopes to pass the senate version of the $1.9 trillion stimulus bill by tomorrow. >> if that happens, president biden could sign that bill into law before, this is crucial, unemployment aid programs, expanded programs expire on sunday. cnn chief congressional correspondent manu raju joins us now from the hill. so manu, this is a pretty tight schedule. so far democrats have kept to it. despite some road blocks in the final hours on friday and saturday. any more potential road blocks between now and march 14th? >> it doesn't seem that way. right now we do expect it to pass the house tomorrow. there might be two democratic defections, they can't afford to lose more than four and at the moment that is not what the democratic leadership believes, they believe they do have the votes to get this passed because the bill passed out of the senate is similar to the one that passed out of the house. there were some changes made, $15 striped out being the most significant but they tightened how stimulus checks will go out to individuals and families, ti tightening the eligibility on that and changed how unemployment benefits were being dolled out, they were $400 but they were paired down to $300 a week with some money being allowed to be deducted from an individual's taxes. but that is still not expected to be enough to change the dynamics in the house. we do expect all republicans to vote against this plan. that is what happened in the senate over the weekend, it passed by 50-49. the 49 republicans who were there all voted no. one republican wasn't there and had he been there, dan sullivan, he would have voted no as well. and in the house, all republicans voted against the first version and expected to vote against the next version of the measure final vote tomorrow as both sides making completely different calculations about what the american public needs right now, and what american voters want as polls do show, though, this bill is popular. >> that is true. among independents as well as democrats and some republicans. manu raju, thanks very much. for more on the stimulus and the state of the pandemic, the effects, i'm joined by the governor of idaho, brad little. thanks so much for taking the time this morning. >> good morning, jim. >> so you signed on with 21 governors pushing back against this covid relief plan and saying it punishes states such as idaho for staying open during the pandemic. as you know, the stimulus checks and the expanded unemployment benefits, they go to residents of red and blue states if they're still having trouble finding a job. do you oppose checks to residents of idaho that are still out of work? >> well, no, i don't, but it is the magnitude of the issue. and it is the fact that those of us that worked hard not only as in the governing side but the people that went out and made the sacrifices to go to work, businesses did innovative things, we get penalized for doing that, for opening up early, for having our schools open, and the states that did less get rewarded. that is the biggest part of the objection. >> what is the penalty, though? this extends benefits for folks who are still out of work. nationally there are 10 million jobs that still haven't come back. as a result of the pandemic and the shutdown and many of them are in the state of idaho, what is the penalty to give those people a few more month of help? >> well it is a like the earlier bill, the first bill that was passed, it would be on a per capita basis and we'd get somewhere between a quarter and a half billion dollars more. i object to the size of it any way and the fact that only, you know, less than 10% of the whole package is for covid-related expenses. but the best solution to unemployment is for people to have a job. and we're doing everything we can to get people back into the work force and it is rewarding the states that didn't do that, it is bailing out their pension funds, it is rewarding other things and that is our big objection. >> i get that. listen, we've talked to business owners on this broadcast all of the time, they really want to open up and we don't want them to lose their businesses any more than the next guy. i guess the issue, though, is that for some businesses it is unsafe to open up fully at this point. you don't want to crowd people in the bars and restaurants, sports stadiums and that has a consequence. i guess i'm saying, what is the -- what's the crime in giving some financial help to folks as you wait for businesses to be able to fully reopen? >> well, any business in idaho, that wants to be open could be open today. the small group that are really impacted by distancing and some of the other things, it would just take a fraction of what we're talking about spending here. we're going to saddle our kids and grandkids with this debt. you know, $1.9 trillion is a lot of money. and our kids and our grandkids will have to pay it back. and it is being unfairly distributed. and there is funds in it that are going to bail out pension funds, private and public pension funds, rewarding bad behavior and that is my big objection to it. >> okay. i want to talk specifically about health care if i can for a moment because also in this bill, it expands eligibility for obamacare, the affordable care act. idaho is a state, a red state of course, republican governor, but the voters passed medicaid expansion in 2018. it was popular there because it helped people and a lot of people in idaho took advantage of that, and given that medicaid being a part of that, why not support further expansion now? >> well, we want people to have a job and be on private insurance and not be on public insurance. that is our goal. grow the size of the economy, grow the opportunities. make sure that private health care is affordable and accessible. this is full medicaid expansion to everybody, that is nothing but socialized medicine that has all kinds of problems. we could do that if we have the right incentives. one of the great things that happened during this pandemic is the expansion of telehealth. with telehealth, we could lower the cost to everybody of health care. >> i get it. but as you know, medicaid is not available to everyone. i'm sure given the choice, folks would prefer to have a job and private health care, but until they do, if they're talking about, i don't know, taking their kids to the hospital, what is wrong with expanding that access to folks at the bottom end of the economic spectrum, especially given again red state idaho, popular in your state, that expansion in 2018. >> well, we expanded medicaid and we also have some other programs. we have one of the most efficient exchanges there is. we don't have a federal exchange. we have a state exchange. and by every major -- it is working. we just want to create a pathway for people that need it and we don't be grudge them at all for needing that. but we want to give them a path way to get out from under public health care to get on to private, affordable, accessible health care. >> okay, final question if i can, because masks have become a big issue in your state. you have a mask burning event over the weekend. and to your credit, you've tweeted openly, keep practicing what we know works and stay home and if we look at events like that, has turning mask news a political issue, not yourself, but others, has that helped or hurt the health of the residents of your state? what wo it have been better if it wasn't a political issue, if it was a straight up health issue? >> yes, it would. but what we we've tried to do is present all of the evidence and it is been conflicting, everybody has to admit that, that people choose to carry a mask, to wear a mask. you know, having it over your forehead or your chin -- >> it is not conflicting that the science is pretty clear on this it keeps it down. it is not conflicting. the evident about wearing a mask. it works. >> well it was early. and that was one of the issues. no, i -- i agree totally and that is why we have -- all we can and hopefully this -- your next segment will talk about what we do and how much longer people will have to wear the masks will enlighten people. but it is not helpful for people to be burning masks. we want people to choose to make the right decision to wear a mask. >> fair enough. well governor, we appreciate the work you're doing in your state and we wish you and the residents of idaho the best of luck in the coming months. >> thanks very much, appreciate it. we have breaking news. just into cnn, the supreme court has declined to take up a challenge from lawyers for former president donald trump challenging the 2020 election results in wisconsin. pretty consistent view of this it seems, poppy, from the supreme court. >> completely. let's go our jessica schneider, jessica, explain this -- it is another shooting down of the big lie. >> reporter: and like jim said, they're staying consistent here. this is another election lawsuit that the supreme court is steering clear of. and guys, it really deals this last blow to trump's baseless election fraud claims. so this was a case out of wisconsin, the supreme court is saying we are not taking this up. this was trump's lawyers who were challenging the way that absentee voting was implemented in the battleground state of wisconsin. they said that the wisconsin elections commission had overstepped by sort of broadening out the rules to allow more absentee voting. trump's team said that was not within the purview of the commission and that was instead within the purview of the legislature. so this was another case just like we saw out of pennsylvania a few weeks ago where trump's team and republicans, they were challenging another body that had stepped in to sort of usurp the power of the legislature here. but as we saw a few weeks ago, guys, the supreme court is not entertaining this claim, they didn't entertain the claim in pennsylvania. and this has essentially been the last gasp for trump's legal team here at the supreme court. there are no more petitions outstanding as it involves trump directly and this is really the last blow to their team from the supreme court, the supreme court saying we are not taking up these elections cases dealing with some that happened four months ago. guys. >> last gasp, thank you, very much. okay, let's turn now to the trial of ex-police officer derek chauvin, accused of second-degree murder and manslaughter of george floyd. >> the trial now underway. jury selection has been begun in minneapolis. chauvin is facing, we'll remind you, second-degree murder and manslaughter charges in floyd's death. video of chauvin kneeling on floyd's neck for nearly eight minutes sparked protests around this country, around the world even. omar jimenez is in minneapolis. the city is taking precautions for more demonstrations today but we have news now about steps moving forward on jury selection. >> reporter: that's right jim and poppy. there is some debate in the beginning of this jury selection process as to whether they could move forward with jury selection until the matter of a third-degree murder charge being reinstated was settled. well judge peter cahill ruled that they can proceed with jury selection and that process won't be delayed as they try to figure out the appeals process for whether that third-degree murder charge will be reinstated f. you remember, derek chauvin is charged with second-degree unintentional murder and second-degree manslaughter, both of which he's pleaded not guilty to. that is what is happening inside. outside this is the scene. as you look at really the mass of people that have come out here in support of george floyd. these are people that have gathered over the course of the morning. of course, many people here, again, in support, his family here, also on scene, and as we understand also, in the courtroom itself, bridget floyd, which is george floyd's sister is 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