not feel supported by the royal family. at one point meghan admitted she'd thought about suicide. >> but i knew that if i didn't say it that i would do it. and i just didn't -- i just didn't want to be alive anymore. and that was a very clear and real and frightening constant thought. >> just one of many bombshell claims. another stunning revelation, harry and meghan say there were questions about what color their baby's skin might be. meghan says they were told the baby might not have security or get a title. and meghan says the tabloid reporting she made kate middleton cry ahead of her marriage to harry was exactly the opposite of what happened. it was kate that made meghan cry. at one point prince charles stopped taking harry's phone calls. and harry says he and his brother william still need space and time to heal. i want to get some reaction to all of this from ana stewart in windsor england. you've certainly covered the royal wedding and other events with the duke and duchess of sussex. out of everything they've said what are making headlines in the u.k.? >> reporter: well, we were all prepared to have some bombshells dropped. i don't think everyone was prepared to feel so concerned by some of the revelations that came out of this interview. and i think some of the big headlines is certainly meghan felt suicidal at times when she was in the u.k. as a working member of the royal family. she asked for help from the palace, from the royal family and she says she didn't receive any. and then there was the shocking claim not only was there sort of racist undertones to the media's reporting of meghan but also within the royal family. meghan says prince harry had a conversation with a member of his family about what the color of their child's skin would be. and this was in the early stages of meghan's pregnancy. take a listen. >> and also concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born. >> what? >> and -- >> who -- who is having that conversation with you? what? >> so -- >> hold up. >> there are several conversations. >> reporter: concerns about how dark his skin might be. now, the royal family member in question isn't named. meghan says it would be very damaging to them. prince harry was asked about this later on in the interview by oprah winfrey and he said it's not something he wants to talk about. this was a shocking interview, some really serious allegations made to the royal family. it would be very interesting to see what the reaction is. we've had no comment so far. they do have a general policy of never complain, never explain but i think they're going to break with that today. robyn? >> yeah, and my next question also who was this interview aimed at? american audiences, the british public, the queen, court iers i the palaces, who were they speaking to? >> certainly the american audience was the first to get it. the u.k. audience weren't able to watch it until this evening but of course it's over all the newspapers and news shows this morning so there won't be any surprises. this was the couple seeking justice in the court of public opinion. time and time again through the interview they point out narratives that were widely spread in the media and considered to we true that weren't true and often were the exact opposite. for instance, the moment meghan says there was a story about how she made kate, the duchess of cambridge cry up to the run up to her wedding, and she said it was the exact opposite. it was kate that made meghan cry. it's interesting given how split opinion has been particularly on social media. >> let's talk about the newspaper headlines in the u.k. as you said britains are starting to icwake up to some of th these headlines. previously they have been vocal. how much finger pointing was leveled at them? >> plenty. and that wasn't a surprise because as you say the duke and duchess of sussex have battled against the tabloid media in particular in the u.k. for years now and actually successfully with a recent victory on sunday. i haven't got physical copies because it's still rather early here in windsor. the daily mail, meghan accuses palace of racism. the sun, meg, i felt suicidal. these are the newspapers the duke and duchess of sussex are battling against. at least they're controlling the narrative for once and that was what this interview was designed to do for once. they can speak to whomever they like, whenever they like and put their stories forward and they can also say which stories weren't true. >> ana stewart there live in windsor. i think you're going to have a pit of a busy day. let's go now to our royal commentator and historian, kate williams. hi, kate. good to see you. everyone of course wondering just how far the duke and duchess of sussex would share how far they'd go, now has the answer to that, a lot. what to you were the key points? >> well, meghan this was a bombshell interview, revelation after revelation. and it was meghan and harry telling their story. so many false narratives put around them. we thought it was the case they didn't want archie to have a title, but it turns out this was a palace decision archie should not have a title, should not have security. and we saw in this interview, i mean, it was a bombshell interview. and the huge revelations and revelations that the palace can't just ignore. the palace have to address, and these are chiefly the fact that meghan felt so distressed when she was pregnant that she considered suicide, and she begged for help. she said i need to go somewhere for help and she was told no, it wouldn't look good, it wouldn't look good for the institution. and this was very striking because we have had mental health campaigns from within the palace, william, kate and harry talking about mental health, the importance of mental health. of course diana suffered suicidal thoughts when she was very newly married, and what does this say about the royal family and the fact there was no one to help her, and there was no one to listen to her? and the other big question, which is on front of all the newspapers today was this point, who was talking about archie's skin color? who was saying that archie, expressing concern that archie's skin would be as oprah put it, too brown? and it was said there was a connection between archie's skin color and the fact he wasn't made a prince. i should say archie would not automatically be made a prince. the automatic prince that was prince george, son of william and kate. but there was an intervention made so charlotte and louie could be princess and prince. obviously they were stressed about that and these conversations were happening at the same time as one expressing concern about the color of archie's skin. and as she put it, the commonwealth has many, many people of color in the common welt. and as she put it, wouldn't it be great to have a member of the royal family who looked like them, and yet that didn't seem to be what the conversation was about. and this was a very serious allegation, very distressing. and obviously harry and meghan aren't making it very clear these are the reasons they left. tabloid coverage, no support in the royal family and distressing attitudes as well. >> and you also rightly say that it's unlikely that the queen or prince charles or even prince william will respond directly to some of these direct allegations unless you think there's going to be a change in tradition. there is a tradition tat the duchess of sussex was clearly upset about of not replying to every story about the royal family. how difficult will it be, then, for harry's family to listen to all of that and not be able to offer alternatives or defend themselves from these allegations or to present another side of the story if there is another side? >> well, we understand the queen wasn't going to watch it. we understand she was going to be briefed this morning by courters who had watched it. tonight, this evening on our tv channel and so everyone knows what's in there. and although the royal family have a policy of not explaining and not complaining they do actually make interventions. often these interventions are made from sources -- they required lots of sors last year who were talking about how the crown was not all the truth, et cetera. and sometimes sources say this isn't the case. we have had this week there's been story after story, on some websites, 40, 50 stories about meghan always in the negative and some were coming from sources saying she'd been bullying and she was investigated for bullying. so there can be -- the royal family do make statements, they do answer to points. and it may be we do see an answer. not really the queen that they appear to be talking about here. it's other member of the courtiers and other members of the royal family. but certainly i think that these allegations have to be addressed in some way because they are really going to run and run and particularly as we're saying that meghan was in such a low state that she was suicidal and that there were racist comments about archie's skin color and this was viewed as concerning. >> kate williams, live in london, thank you very much for joining us. thank you, kate. so pope francis has visited iraq. that is now over, but he says the country will always remain in his heart. we'll have a live report on that historic visit. that's next. also the u.s. reports fewer covid cases and many more vaccinations, but experts say the country isn't out of the woods yet. why they still fear another spike in cases. that, too, is next. in a recent clinical study, patients using salonpas patch reported reductions in pain severity, using less or a lot less oral pain medicines. and improved quality of life. ask your doctor about salonpas. it's good medicine. my audible library is just like scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll scroll, it's a lot. i downloaded audible and really, really enjoyed it. and then it kind of just became a lifestyle after that. audible allows me to find a space for myself. you just get way more than you pay for, one of those rare things in life. oh, the audible plus catalog is awesome. it's like having a streaming service, but just for audio content. there's audible originals... there's podcasts... i've used some of the meditations, it helps me relax. mythology, anthropology, a lot of the -ologies. audible recommended the right audiobooks at the right time. they pretty much have whatever you like. it's really enriched my life in so many ways. i can put on an audiobook, or a podcast, and be transported somewhere that is impossible to go, that is why i love audible. to start your free 30-day trial, just text listen 8 to 500500. ♪ for every idea out there, that gets the love it should ♪ ♪ there are 5 more that don't succeed ♪ to start your free 30-day trial, ♪ and so are lost for good ♪ ♪ and some of them are pretty flawed ♪ ♪ and some of them are slightly odd ♪ ♪ but many are small businesses that simply lack the tool ♪ ♪ to find excited people who will stop and say 'that's cool'♪ ♪ and these two, they like this idea ♪ ♪ and those three like that one.♪ ♪ and that's 'cause personalized ads ♪ ♪ find good ideas for everyone ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪like an echo in the forest♪ [singing in korean] ♪another day will return♪ [singing in korean] ♪like nothing ever happened♪ jackson hewitt knows your job description [singing in korean] ♪may have changed this year. to say... account manager... third grade teacher... and senior vice dog-walker. don't add tax preparer. let jackson hewitt do it for you, so you can be certain your taxes are done right, guaranteed. welcome back. it is 15 minutes past the hour. i'm robyn curnow. and the u.s. is reporting more positive developments in the fight against covid, but experts are urging people to not let their guard down soon. even though daily infection numbers are fallen in recent weeks experts say the decline has plateaued at a very high rate averaging more than 55,000 cases a day. but the good news is that vaccination rates are also up. the u.s. has now administered more than 90 million doses. dr. camilla is an emergency room physician. she's chris crossed the country helping ers from new york to most recently california battle covid, and she joins me now from denver. doctor, hi. thank you for joining us. so since this pandemic began you've packed up, you've left your family. you've cared for thousands of patients in emergency rooms across eight states. i know you're tired, but how do you keep on fighting? 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is it a mental and emotional exhaustion by just having to be there on peoples death beds like you said over and over again? >> yeah, you know, it's one of those things where i think for a long time you say oh, gosh, i went into this to save lives and i think covid has been just so different because there's so little that we can do. and you get to the point you realize, gosh, we just prevented this. if i had just not had this person come into my emergency department, if they had not gotten sick they would be back with their family. and it's young people, old people, grandfathers, it's daughters, mothers. it doesn't discriminate. it finally gets to you you go these are my friends, these are my family members. and there's other coworkers and colleagues -- the place that i went to, they lost their own nurses and doctors on their floors, actually people that they took care of. and so when you lose your own i think you kind of just go this is too much. >> camilla, thank you very much for all of your work. and the exhaustion i know i can see it, but i think all of us watching. thank you for the moments you've shared for people who have needed you. thank you. >> thank you. so right now pope francis is on his way back to rome after historic visit to iraq. the pope participated in a farewell ceremony at baghdad airport last hour. before he left the pontiff visited four key cities and celebrated mass at a stadium packed with people and said iraq would always remain in his heart. our senior international correspondent ben wedemen is live. ben, talk us through some of these moments. >> reporter: they were extraordinary moments, and this is a trip that so many people didn't think was a good idea. so many people thought would not go off or would be plagued by problems. but it seems to have gone off without a hitch. and everywhere the pope went he was met by very enthusiastic crowds of muslims as well as christians. the high point of his day yesterday was a mass in the stadium here in erbil attended by at least 8,000 people. and at the end of that mass he did come out with some arabic and apparently the crowd went absolutely wild over that. and certainly every step of the way he was met by enthusiasm and happiness. there was for some people for instance among the suny community who felt he didn't focus enough on them. his focus was obviously very much on the shia and the christians as wells, thbut by a large i think he has left iraq a better place with people peopling that as one woman told our senior digital producer yesterday at the stadium, that perhaps now there's hope. robyn? >> hope, which is a big word for folks there in iraq. certainly you talk about these wonderful moments, this wonderful trip. how much of a lasting impact do you think it'll have beyond the symbolism and the gestures? >> reporter: it's difficult to say, but i think for iraqis this was sort of a moment that crystallized what their country could be. keep in mind, for instance, that the median age here in iraq is 21. and the last time life could be described as normal was before the iran-iraq war which began in 1981. and therefore you have to be more than 40 years old to remember anything from that time. and the scenes we've seen over the last four days were absolutely stunning. now, reality will quickly sink in. for instance, this is a country that is dealing with a spike in covid cases. the economy has suffered greatly as a result of the drop in demand for oil as a result of the covid pandemic. there is rampant corruption. there have been frequent outbreaks of mass protests with people unhappy with the state of the economy, the state of governance and basic public services. so, yes, it's hard to say how -- what sort of lasting impact it will be. but as i said it gave iraqis a glimpse of what this country, which has huge potential, human potential, economic potential, agricultural potential, everything -- it allowed people to see that perhaps there is light at the tunnel for a country that has suffered so much for so long. robyn? 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