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that is great news. the white house said 3.9 million doses of johnson & johnson vaccine could be delivered to people as early as tomorrow. this joins the pfizer and moderna vaccines. but with key and potentially game changing differences. this vaccine is only one shot, one dose, not two. it could also, jim, be stored in a normal refrigerator which is a huge deal in terms of the logistical challenges. >> two big differences there. a positive step. another big step in the health crisis as an economic crisis continues to loom so large for so many americans, the senate is set to take up president biden's $1.9 trillion package after the house passed it with unified democratic support, but not a single republican vote. more an where the bill stands in just a moment, particularly the timing. but first let's begin with the medical news. elizabeth cohen, more on this johnson & johnson vaccine, how effective and how quickly will it become available to folks watching right now. >> jim, this is a very effective vaccine. i mean, it is the numbers so great, not as great as moderna and pfizer but still terrific. it is being shipped out and will be received at various locations as early as tomorrow. so let's take a look at those efficacy numbers. according to johnson & johnson, the vaccine is 72% effective at preventing covid whether it is moderate covid tor severe covid, the range is 72% effective, 85% effective against severe disease. i know that is confusing. 72% effective at preventing covid basically abroad range of covid. but 85% effective against severe disease. and in other words the kind of disease that could lead you to getting -- being hospitalized or lead to killing you and that is the number that many doctors will say the most important one. what vaccines should do is prevent you from getting so, so sick that your life is in danger. so that is a really great number. not as good as moderna and pfizer but still a great number. now, two advantages to the vaccine that you already mentioned and worth repeating, one is that it is a single shot. much easier to get people to come in for one shot and then they're done. also it doesn't need to be frozen and so it is much easier to ship, much easier to store and which would be helpful in rural and far-reaching parts of the world. >> thank you very much for that update. let's go to our pete muntean at a big ups facility in louisville, kentucky, where the j&j vaccine is being shipped out right now. it is a huge undertaking. what could you tell us. >> reporter: well we're standing by for trucks carrying the johnson & johnson to arrive. this is the mega hub known as louie port, the first stop to get thget the millions of dosesf the door. right now it is being packed up at a distribution facility run by a company called mckesson down the road in shepherdsville and then the trucks come here and then the big sort, packages unloaded by hand and sorted by machines and 150 miles of conveyer belt long enough to go from d.c. to philadelphia, all of them bound for cargo planes which will vac the vaccine coast to coast. 3.9 million doses in the first wave of the vaccine. 20 million by the end of the month, according to johnson & johnson. ups has a lot of practice with it. it has shipped tens of millions of pfizer and moderna dose and has practice monitoring the shipments which is critical this time of the year, each individual package is able to broadcast its position in realtime back to a command center here at world port and ups would see where the packages when deliveries were delayed, when world port had to shut down for a day, operations had to cease for a day, for the first time in world port history, ups said all of that technology made it easier to get those delied shipments moving again. it is a really massive operation here, jim and poppy. it all begins right here in kentucky. >> pete, we're glad you're there. thank you very much. jim. let's talk about this big week on the vaccine front with the chairman and ceo of johnson & johnson alex corsi. >> it is great to be here with you today. >> so a big step but in terms of supply, incremental step this week, 3.9 million doses and that said your goal is ambitious, 100 billion worldwide by the end of year. why should folks watching now but confident you're able to meet those targets? >> well, jim, again, thank you very much for having us. and i tell you this is a proud and humble day for johnson & johnson because our team members, our scientists and physicians and engineers have been working for the last 13 months to make this possible and we've made tremendous progress. consider that 12 months ago we were getting genetic sequencing information from an email and today this vaccine has been dosed in more than 50,000 patients, the fact that we're literally real-time getting ready to move 3.9 million doses here in the united states and ramping up to 20. we've developed an extensive partnership here in the united states and europe and other places around the world and we're very confident in our ability to deliver 20 million doses by the end of march and 100 million doses in the first half of the year en route to a billion doses by the end of this year. >> the efficacy numbers here, and i know they could seem too simplistic, but as you know the moderna and and pfizer show efficacy above 90% and this one around 72%. and i know the timing of the trials makes a difference, there are more variants out there now, but for people watching again who have questions about this, is the johnson & johnson vaccine as good, as effective as the pfizer and moderna ones. >> the short answer is yes. and consistent with dr. fauci's comments, dr. peter marks and other members of the fda, all of the vaccines are very safe and they're very effective. and, jim, as you pointed out, one of the most important items to highlight regarding many of the numbers which could be confusing a bit overwhelming, our trial was done starting in september and october of 2020, just when the incident rate across the united states let alone around the world was really started so surge. secondly, if you look at our clinical trial, it was a very extensive global trial where we had about 45% of the patients in the united states, approximately 40% in latin america and about 15% in south africa, 90% of whom were infected by that south african variant that has been probably one of the most challenging. and so when you look at all of those results to see that 85% of the time your preventing severe disease and 100% of the time we're keeping patients out of the hospital and from dying, are really impressive and again, it is going to add a critical tool for health care systems around the world to take on this pandemic. >> listen, i get that the numbers at that extreme end, keeping people out of the hospital and thankfully keeping people alive, those are encouraging, but the fact is as you note, variants are harder to prevent, for any of the vaccines. and i wonder as a practical matter, do the vaccines have declining efficacy over time that you have to address? >> well, we're going to see as time goes on. we're very encouraged by some of the data that we're seeing. there is probably a couple of schools of thought out there at least. one would suggest that every time this virus replicates and that is why it is so important to get shots as soon as we can, because it could mutate and turn into a new variant and therefore make it more challenging. the other school of thought, however, is that this virus is getting close to reaching its fittest point and if we could all get vaccinated, we stand a good chance to basically really being able to control it. so time will tell. we'll learn a lot. know that the data that we've seen so far, i think, is very encouraging. all of the companies are already working on the next generation for some of the variants. and so, look, i'm confident that all of this is going to make a big difference. >> to your question, variants aren't going anywhere and nature of science, right, there will be more of them. do you already have plans or making plans for a booster shot to deal with variants going forward? >> we are, jim. and while we're encouraged and confident in the current vaccine that we have, you always have to be preparing for the future and frankly for the unknown. so we're doing that as we speak. >> given the federal government's role in getting these vaccines out and into people's arms, these 3.9 million doses out, going to the federal government so they could then distribute them. i wonder, do you see a difference in your dealings with the biden administration versus the trump administration? i'm not talking about politics, i'm talking purely as a practical issue here, more organized, more responsive in your view or have you not seen a difference. >> we've been engaged for a long time, particularly during the last several weeks and months as we've gotten ready for this important day. there is rarely a day that goes by where people on our team are not talking to the people involved in distribution, logistics, throughout the process. i couldn't be more thankful for the partnership that i'm seeing with us and expanding and accelerating some of our supply network let alone on the distribution side. and this public/private partnership is certainly something that i hope could continue into the future because i think it will make a big difference not only in the united states but around the world. >> you're doing trials on adolescents ages 12 to 18. are you finding that it is safe for young people? >> right now, we're only approved 18 and over. we're in conversations with the fda as we speak on the specific trial designed for the 12 to 18. and we intend to go younger once we gather more information. we want to go to pregnant women, and find out. and our platform, this vector platform, has been used in more than 200,000 patients around the world. and many of these included, young, old, with comorbidity and pregnant woman and it gives us optimism but that needs to be validated in some additional clinical trials which we'll be starting very soon and we should find out much more on the back end of this year. >> as you know, the sad fact is there are equity issues so far with the distribution of vaccines in this country that people of color and the sad fact from a science perspective is these are oftentimes the most impacted communities here. what is the company doing to address that, to make sure that this is widely available, regardless of means? >> well, look it started from the very beginning where we said as we go out, knowing that there are unfortunately are far too many minorities who have been disproportionately impacted by covid, let alone by the health care system that our clinical trials represented these populations and so we really knew how they work in these areas. so in our case, more than 20% for example of patients globally were black. right here in the united states, 13% of our population was. so we have a good cross section of different ethnic groups, black, african-american, hispanics, age, young, old, men and women. and we think that if we look across our data base, we see the results that we mentioned earlier, highly effective and severe disease and stopping hospitalizations and deaths and being consistent across all of those groups. secondly at johnson & johnson we recognize this is going to be an on going challenge that we're going to have so we've also made a commitment to say what could we do around training of fez ises and nurses and help reinforce the health centers but it is a long-term effort to address some of the underlying issues. >> just quickly before i go, have you taken this and will you and will you recommend it to your family? >> i have not taken it yet. as soon as i qualify, based upon the criteria the government set, i'll be certain to get a johnson & johnson shot. >> alex courseki, thank you for trying to put this behind us and we appreciate you coming on this morning. >> jim, thank you very much. and again, i encourage everyone to get as shot as soon as you can. that will make the biggest difference in the stopping this pandemic and thank you very much for the time today. >> and that is what the doctor said as well. thank you very much. coming up this hour, the rnc chair said conspiracy theory groups such as qanon are not welcome in the gop. is that really the case? cnn went to cpac to find out. and president biden today will meet with his counter part, the president of mexico. this is as the number of migrants crossing the souther border is surging. pain hits fast. so get relief fast. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser-drilled holes. they release medicine fast for fast pain relief. tylenol rapid release gels. plaque psoriasis, the burning, itching. the pain. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. tremfya®. emerge tremfyant™. janssen can help you explore cost support options. cnn has learned that the senate could begin debating president biden's $1.9 trillion covid relief bill as soon as wednesday this week, after the house passed it over the weekend, though with not a single republican vote. >> by thursday the senate could be in the middle of a marathon voting session on amendments. this is become knowns as voter-rama. the timing still in flux. let's go to manu raju on capitol hill. explain to us where this is going to go this week. >> reporter: well, look, 13 days left, that is all from now until millions of americans will lose jobless benefits meaning that each day, each week is significant to get through and we're facing a brewing partisan fight in the senate over the massive $1.9 trillion relief plan that republicans say is unwielding, they say it is not targeting and they are expected to vote in lockstep against it. that means that in the 50/50 senate, there needs to be total democrat unanimity to get through this chamber. democrats are employing a process that will allow them to approve the bill with simple majority, 51 votes and kamala harris could break the tie. in the senate it requires 60 votes to overcome any objection but not under this process which means that they need to keep everybody together in order to get this across the finish line. but also because they're using this process, they can't use the minimum wage because it was ruled out of order by the senate parliamentarian because it doesn't meet the budget rules under this process. so democrats, the biden administration facing new pressure this morning from liberals in the house where pushing kamala harris as the vice president to ignore the ruling of the senate parliamentarian and include the minimum wage in the underlying package. that, though, faces serious resistance from senators on both sides of the aisle and the white house itself is leery of that. so almost certainly the minimum wage will not be included in that major package. but it does impact so many other individuals, people who are losing jobless benefits, $1,400 in relief checks for individuals under certain income threshold and money for schools and vaccines and the like. so a lot riding on line. they need to get this through the senate this week and back to the house for final approval next week if they want any chance of landing this on joe biden's desk by march 14th. >> thank you, manu. white house officials say they are still meeting with republican lawmakers, still they say trying to find some sort of common ground on this relief bill that has gotten zero republican support. it is possible maybe even probable that at least one republican will vote in favor of the final version. i'm not sure, jim. >> we'll see. cnn's john harwood is live at the white house. listen, this something that is not popular with republican lawmakers but popular with republican voters. i have to imagine the white house is targeting republican senators up for re-election in purple states in 2022? >> sure, they are. but i think expectations are low which i why i put the emphasis on the possible rather than the probable there. as you indicated, jim, 70% of the people spoke favorably about the covid relief package, including from a third to a half or more than half of republicans rank and file voters around the country, not a single republican vote in the house. now the senate, you have 50 republican senators, maybe it makes a difference that the minimum wage comes out because of the parliamentarian's ruling, maybe that is a difference when the bill comes back to the house. but i don't think anybody is counting on that because what you have with the republican party, is a party that -- however office holders feel about donald trump, they're heeding the call that he made in january which is fight like hell, you're not going to have a country any more. that is because their base, i wrote a piece about this this weekend, the base among conservative white christians feels the country is slipping away. they want their elective representatives to fight regardless of the circumstances, regardless of the issue. and it is one of the reasons why, you know, in state capitols around the country, we've talked about the big lie around the election, where obviously joe biden won the election and most republicans who are not white evangelical protestant republicans, but three-fourths of evangelicals say that joe biden was not legitimately elected and that same sentiment to take on the democrats is applying to the covid relief bill and will apply to the rest of the agenda. a very big challenge to over come that impulse to fight on the part of the republican party. >> it is amazing how persistent the big lie is deliberately with enormous ramifications. thanks very much. former president donald trump used his return to the -- to the stage to repeat fall claims of voter fraud, the big lie. it has fueled changing of election laws with many critics within the republican party calling it straight up voter suppression. you can try to predict the future or you can create it. we're driving it. everywhere. we emit optimism, not exhaust. we plug in our vehicles as naturally as we charge our phones. we. we are generation e. we want smart. clean. and safe. to also be fun, easy and powerful! ultium! a battery that charges fast. runs long. it fits everyone. nobody will be left out. and that, changes everything. ♪ ♪ if you have... ...moderate to severe psoriasis, ... ...little things... ...can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea,... ...nausea or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts... ...or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and... ...headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. we visited mars...mars! and if you're pregnant and people with diabetes are still pricking their fingers? 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>> reporter: why, poppy, she might want to tell some of the people that we met yesterday at cpac who were waving qanon flags outside of the event. look, not all trump supporters are totally in on qanon. but pretty much everybody we spoke to this weekend still believes that core conspiracy theory that the former president continued to perpetuate that he didn't lose the election. i want to show you sound from two women i met yesterday. one believes that trump is future of the party but tried to talk her friends out of qanon but the second lady is more down the route of conspiracy theory. have a listen. >> we want to know the next step. we're all looking for guidance. >> do you think it is important for trump today to come out and to condemn the january 6th insurrection. >> i'm not convinced that that was -- was started by -- you see how peaceful we are. i'm not convinced yesterday because there is no actual investigation done yet. >> you don't trust the election officials. >> you don't trust the fbi. >> no. >> you don't trust the courts? >> no. >> who do you trust? >> trump and his supporters. >> reporter: so, as you could see there, the conspiracy theories are eroding trust and pretty much every single american institution. and it is obviously extremely troubling and it is something that is not going away. >> and it is deliberate, frankly. donie o'sullivan, it is important to see. we're seeing the fallout, the real consequences from the big lie in the face of record turnout in 2020, even in the midst of a pandemic, republicans and state legislatures across the country are moving to pass new more restrictive voter laws, make it harder for you to vote. according to the brennan center of nonprofit that tracks voting laws, 43 states are now considering 253 bills that could make it harder to vote. joining me now to discuss is ben ginsburg and cnn legal analyst. thanks so much for joining. >> thank you for having me. >> so you and other conservatives to your credit, george will and charlie psychs, have called many of the efforts straight up voter suppression, intentional. i wonder, why haven't we heard folks like mitch mcconnell and others call this out and oppose measures like this or are they calculating maybe unseemly but it is in our interest? >> i think that it is a period of great uncertainty amongst traditional conservative republicans. look, the problem that the republican electorate that donald trump is appealing to is shrinking demographically and rather than proposing a whole suite of new policies, the republican party and especially if the laws you mentioned have taken the position that we'll make it harder for those voters who might not vote for republicans to, in fact, cast their ballots and that is a bad place for party to be. >> absolutely. i mean, what does the law say about this? why isn't it illegal to deliberately pass laws that disadvantage your opponents , i know there is a case coming up before the supreme court that might set a standard, but where does the law stand on that? >> well the law said that a legislature could pass a law if it is challenged, then the burden goes back to the state to show the compelling interest. the republicans in the legislatures will argue it's to prevent voter fraud. again, voter fraud being prevalent, never proven in the past election, sort of the duty to prove that fraud exists if you're going to pass those laws, but that is what the subsequent court cases will be about. >> so let me ask you this, because we saw the courts in the face of the president's false election fraud claims seeking to over turn votes after this election, even trump appointed judges, say, man, there is no proof of election fraud, go home, basically, does that give us an indication as to how they might decide on some of the voter restrictions now passing the state legislatures? >> well, it depends on how careful individual legislatures are in passing laws. if they could actually produce evidence that it hasn't been produced so far, then a court may find that the law is warranted. and there are provisions in some laws that make more sense than provisions in other laws. the political reality for the party, though, is that this is sort of a bad mix because on the one hand trump supporters are saying more and more, we're not going to vote because the election is rigged. and on the other side of the spectrum, moderate republicans are sort of leaving the party which means they won't vote in primaries and they certainly won't vote in general elections. especially in those moderate districts that are the key to republicans retaking the house in 2022. >> you look back, the decision in shelby, shelby versus holder, which decided, basically, and i'm oversimplifying here, but the protections in the 1965 voting rights act doesn't apply any more because there was not an effort to disadvantage minority voters, et cetera. haven't the cases since then and all of the attempts at voter restriction showing that was flawed thinking, that in fact there is still very much a threat to minority voters in particular? >> well, it is important to remember that section 5 only applied to a finite number of states and counties around the country. and part of the case was that the coverage of where section 5 applied didn't make any sense in today's world. that is why you see the attempts in congress to repass the john lewis voting rights act to deal with the coverage issue. >> just quickly, though, based on what we know now, does this supreme court, with a 6-3 advantage, is it likely to rule to expand the vote or to allow these restrictions to stay in place? >> no, but what it is likely to do in the arizona cases that are up tomorrow is deal with the actual ballot harvesting and whether that has an impact or whether it is just a natural -- it is a program that shouldn't take place because it invited fraud. that is a much more narrow issue than the sweeping section 2 approval or disapproval that you're referring to. >> something to watch closely. the laws are getting passed every day. ben ginsburg, thank you very much. >> thanks, jim. the biden administration announcing over the weekend they are setting up another tent city to house migrants in south texas, this is the latest snapshot of the surge at the border. we'll discuss with congressman lindsey gonzalez, next. lavender baths calmed him. so we made a plan to turn bath time into a business. ♪ ♪ fiuniversity of phoenixual advis awardingcom up to one million dollars in new scholarships through this month, because hope fuels opportunity. see what scholarship you qualify for at phoenix.edu get exactly what you want on wayfair. hi. last piece. -kelly clarkson? 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>> i believe that -- i think if children end up on our border we have to do what is humane and what is -- the way americans have always acted and done what is right for man kind around the world. so we'll have to deal with it. but i'm saying we need to have a policy in place to prevent children and adults from making this 2,000 mile walk to our border. and when we send the wrong message to central america, that if you make it to our southern border, you're going to be processed and released, you're going to -- you could pretty much assure you're going to have tens of thousands of people coming up to make this very dangerous trek. we need to find a safer solution to deal with asylum-seekers. >> your quoted in politico as saying this and it struck me and it is one of the reasons i wanted to have you on the show today. you said the way that we're doing it right now is catastrophic and it is a recipe for disaster. our party should be concerned if we go off the rails sh it is going to be bad for us. you went on to say biden is going to be dealing with a minority in congress if he continues down some of these paths. which paths do you think are the wrong paths that you see the biden administration going down now on immigration? >> well, my concern in the recent weeks in my district, migrants who made it across the border who even passed a line of mpp's who are 5,000 folks that have been waiting for two years to cross the border made it across the rio grande and were processed and released. if that is the message that we sent to central america and around the world, i could assure you it won't be long before we have tens of thousands people showing up to the border and it will be catastrophic for our party, for our country, for my region and for my district in a middle of an pandemic where we've lost over 3,000 people in my small congressional district. so i think we need to have a better plan in place. and they should be processed in their home country or a neighboring country and we shouldn't have a policy in place that impulses people to make this 2,000-mile trek where cartels and human traffickers are enriching themselves. >> we know that president biden will be meeting with the president of mexico today and cnn has learned that the mexican president will be asking biden to in some form share covid vaccines with mexico. we don't know if that is a purchase agreement, a donation or a loan. i wonder if you think that is a good idea and what your message to president biden is on that? >> yeah, i believe once we inoculate the american population and people here in our region, it would be smart to assure that our friends and neighbors are also immunized. as you know, the border is closed in my district. mexican nationals with visas would travel here on second homes are not allowed to cross the border right now so we need to immunize our friends across the border at some point. once we're finished doing it here in our country and i think we have five vaccines for every american so we certainly have some extra vaccines that we could share with other countries. especially somebody like mexico or canada who we do a lot of business with, we travel, we borders, we have borders that where a lot of commerce and tourism and flow on a regular basis. so we don't live in this world isolated. it is a global community and certainly north america is a very tight knit community. we have relatives on both soide of the border, whether it is canada or mexico and i feel both of those countries and many others around the world should be inoculated and we travel to vacation spots in mexico, we do a lot of business and we f we n to make sure that everybody is safe and healthy. >> thank you. i think the key in your statement, timing, once all americans have access to a vaccine. thank you very much. we'll have you back soon. >> thank you. okay. we'll be right back. who invented car vending machines and buying a car 100% online. now we've created a brand-new way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. if you have... ...moderate to severe psoriasis, ... ...little things... ...can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea,... ...nausea or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts... ...or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and... ...headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. use all of the vaccine now, that is the message from the ceo of bio n tech. >> frederick just spoke with the ceo. tell us what he said about next steps. >> hi, there, jim. we talked about the variants and he said that there are two threats out there. one is that the virus could spread, the variants could spread faster than the original coronavirus. it is absolutely important for countries to vaccinate the populations as fast as possible but he believe that's the virus will not be able to evade the vaccine even in variants. he said that could be kept under control. let's listen to what he had to say. >> we believe particularly that mrna vaccines and the antibody is in a very -- which is very robust against variants and of course we need to see the protection rate but for example the data that has been connected shows that we have a full control of the u.k. variant, it is almost the same efficacy as we had observed for the bio n tech in our office for our clinical trial. >> and of course, jim, that vaccine is just to be approved by the fda to be stored at regular freezer temperature. making the logistics feezyer and they're working on a formula to store it in a frig to make the storing and transport better than it is now. >> lots of good vaccine news out there. fred pleitgen, thank you very much. and thank you for joining us today. we'll see you back here tomorrow morning. i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. 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