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what would be different? >> i don't think anything would be different. i think -- i don't know what they're -- what kind of coffee they're drinking, but they can't get there. they didn't get there this time and i don't think they can get there again without the so-called moderate establishment republicans who didn't want hillary clinton and voted for him coming over to their side again. and that obviously didn't happen. >> senator bill cassidy agrees with you. he basically yesterday on the sunday shows spells out how he sees the math. here he is. >> if you're going to win in 2022 and 2024, you've got to speak to voters who didn't vote for us last time. we had economic policies that were working. if that's the case and we can speak to those policies of those families, then we'll win. but if we idolize one person, we will lose. that's kind of clear from the last election. why is it only senator cassidy and you see it that way? >> i think senator romney is in that camp. he's been pretty clear about his views of the future of our country. i think it's highly unfortunately that 146 plus or mine republicans would not vote to, you know, support the obviously election. i mean, what is going on here? these are how authoritarian regimes start, when you have blind i ddolatry to one leader. it's not right. if it were me, i would treat the former president, i would isolate him and stop pandering to him. >> how about senator mitch mcconnell who after giving that very forceful post-impeachment speech about his dereliction of duty and how he was responsible for stoking the crowd when asked, but if he's the nominee, would you support him? he said, oh, absolutely? >> yeah, well, i can understand the minority leader saying, i'm going to support the republican nominee. what i don't really understand is why he didn't vote to impeach him. they could have ended this whole thing and set the party on a new course and they didn't do it. so what's that say about all of these other people that are scurrying around trying to run for president? as long as the specter of donald trump is there, they're out in the wastelands. >> answer that question for me. that part is really intriguing to me. the marco rubios, the ted cruz, the tom cotton. is this endless game of will he or won't he from donald trump and his grip on the party, why are they tolerating it? >> well, i would like to say, if you apply a business model to it, they would have taken out a competitor, but they didn't do it. why would anyone support one of these guys. they're good people. i have supported marco rubio after jeb got out. and i think tom cotton is a good guy, too. but why would anybody get inv invested. >> what should the tom cottons and marco rubio's do in this instance? >> now that they didn't take the step in the senate, i think that they should distance themselves from trump and carve some new path, like senator cassidy and senator romney have said. we stand for a lot of other things besides populism and nativism. so we want to go back to that. so if you want to run for president, they've got to decide. what are they going to do? be subservient to trump, in which case they'll probably run and he won't, or try a new path? it was disturbing to see so many speakers at cpac talk about the failed republican establishment of the past. or taking the party backwards. we're not taking the party backwards. what got us here was the republican values of free enterprise, private industry solutions, globalization and trade. you know, look right now in china and asia. because trump wouldn't do tpp, we have tpp in asia. >> i notice you didn't mention senator ted cruz in the good guy category. >> i didn't really -- i just happen to know tom and a couple of the other guys and marco better. >> got it. congressman, former congressman francis rooney, thank you very much. >> joining us now, maggie haberman. a washington correspondent for "the new york times." maggie, great to see you this morning. so overnight, the former president lied about the election results. he named names, threatened a list of republicans, and he asked for money. what did you see as the major takeaways? the most important things in this speech overnight? >> i don't want to minimize the "and ae he asked for money," because he made clear he wants supporters to give to two associations that are related to him. he doesn't want them to support to the republican national committee. but he spent a lot of time airing grooempbss,ai airing grievances, as we saw him do throughout 2020. the most striking part was seeing a former president who left office less than two months ago naming the 17 republicans, members of his own party, who he wants to see ousted. we've obviously never seen something like that. john, it's not clear to me that the president will be able to recruit candidates who will be successful for every single one of those seats that he is taking aim at. that we'll find outo over the next two years. but for the moment, he's still clearly on the republican party and that was exemplified by last night's speech. >> let's play a portion of the hit list. >> the democrats don't have grandstanders like mitt romney, little ben sasse, richard burr, bill cassidy, susan collins, lisa murkowski, pat toomey. >> he's really playing the hits there, maggie. but in terms of, you were saying, it's not clear that he would be successful in helping to put up candidates, is he going to take an active role? >> his team is definitely going to take an active role in trying to, if not recruit, at least endorse people for a number of these seats that he's talking about. and we should note, the sound wasn't there, but he lingered very long on attacking liz cheney, who has been a singular force, the congresswoman from wyoming. she's been a singular force for him in terms of his frustration, because she was very pointedly, you know, in favorite of his impeachment, gave an impassioned speech about it and she's associated with the bush family, which always gets to him. but i don't think, alisyn, again, we have to see what organization he is able to put together in terms of having a significant influence beyond his voice and beyond the memory of his term going forward into the next two years. there is no question he remains very strong within the party. there were signs over the weekend at cpac that he is not necessarily the party's favored candidate for 2024 and how that plays. out remains to be seen. >> what percentage did he get? >> 68% of a happend-picked frie and family audience. that's what he got in the straw poll. the enemies list thing is fascinating, six weeks roughly after an insurrection in the u.s. capitol where five people died, the president is putting out a list of enemies, political enemies, and still, still, and again, i don't want to minimize this at all, still lying about the election results to wild applause. >> yep, yep. lying about the election results. doing things that his advisers have signaled repeatedly he's not going to do this and he does it. almost every single time. yesterday's case, it was again falsely claiming that he had won the election. pretending as if joe biden is there, by some conspiracy by the democrats to quote/unquote rig the election. and he used the word "rigged" again yesterday. the only thing that he didn't do that i thought he might do was lean in harder to the idea nah he was actually running himself again in 2024, which would have triggered fec filings for him as a candidate. he has continued to try to undermine joe biden, but while he did so on policy at various points, he went offscript to again claim falsely that this election was stolen from him in some way. >> that's the barrier. that trigger, that's why he's playing this cat and mouse game, because he can't sort of formally announce it? >> alisyn, to be clear, i think there are a lot of people around him -- i know there are a lot of people around him that are skeptical that he is actually going to run. i think the fear of triggering a filing is part of what kept him from leaning in harder. but as you and i know very well, donald trump is capable of saying something that he has absolutely no intention of falling through with later. i think the fear that he would end up having to be an actual candidate in the fec's eyes has kept him in part from being more forceful about it. >> and does everything he needs and wants at this point. which is to assert his dominance over everyone in that room and everyone in the party around the country, correct? >> that's right. and remember, we left out one thing that is important. he believes and people around him believe that as long as he is seen as a candidate, he will be able to paint, he will be able to paint the investigations into him and there are many at this point, as political somehow. we have heard him over four years describe investigations into him as phony witch hunts, quote/unquote. i expect you'll hear the same if, say, the manhattan district attorney moves ahead in making a cake against him as related to his business. >> maggie haberman, don't go far. we have much more to discuss with you in a moment. because a 25-year-old former aide to new york governor andrew cuomo accusing him of being wildly sexually inappropriate with her. a flurry of statements, a really shifting response from governor cuomo over a 24-hour period, that's next. if you have... ...moderate to severe psoriasis, ... ...little things... ...can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea,... ...nausea or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts... ...or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and... ...headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. research shows that people remember and if you're pregnant ocommercials with. exciting stunts. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's something you shouldn't try at home... look, liberty mutual customizes home insurance so we only pay for what we need. it's pretty cool. that is cool! grandma! very cool. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ so you're a small business, or a big one. you were thriving, but then... oh. ah. okay. plan, pivot. how do you bounce back? 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"the times" also reports that bennett who had just turned 25 at the time said mr. cuomo had also asked about her feelings in age differences in relationships, saying age doesn't matter, according to a text she sent to her friend, she said, he asked me if i believe if age made a difference in relationships and he also asked me in the same conversation if i had ever been with an older man. that's what charlotte bennett says happened, maggie. i don't think that governor cuomo has disputed any of those statements that she has made. so what do you make now of his evolution in response and his apology. >> hearing andrew cuomo apologize for anything is breathtaking. i think it speaks to the degree to which he knows he is in real trouble. i think he was trying to avoid having tish james, the new york attorney general, doing an independent review. i think he had to throw up his hands and give entitle. we saw multiple statements from his office come out about such a probe. and eventually he appeared to just give in. look, i think that there have been many moments where andrew cuomo was in trouble politically over last 20 years. i think this one is different. i do think it's worth noting about his statement, john, that he is saying that, you know, essentially, it's her fault. she misinterpreted. i was doing something, it had no intent at all and it's on her. a lot of women have heard that over the years and i think that on any level in 2021, having an older man make comments like that to a subordinate, particularly a governor, is jarring. >> let me read a portion of his statement. he says, at work, sometimes i think i am being playful and make jokes that i think are funny. i do on occasion tease people in what i think is a good-natured way. i now understand that my interactions may have been insensitive or too personal and that some of miss comments, given my position, made others feel in ways i never intended. i acknowledge some of the something i have said have been misinterpreted as an unwanted flirtation. so, david, tell us the significance of him feeling like that he has to make a statement like that. and did he think by making a statement like that, that would make the independent investigation go away? >> you know, it was an extraordinary day yesterday. we saw statement after state coming out of the governor's office, which is a clear sign they were scrambling and they didn't know what was going on. and really for the first time as a decade in governor, it seemed like they weren't in control of events. i'm not -- i think they wanted really to avoid this getting out of their hands. andrew cuomo is a notorious control freak. doesn't want to get into situations where he can't sort of manipulate the outcome. if this gets into attorney general tish james' hands, it's something he can no longer control. i wonder if they're bracing for what the rest of this week looks like, if more people may come forward. >> yeah, to me, that's a big question, right? because you have this investigation, which i know maggie will also go into the new york state government response, but to me it's an investigation into what? there's an agreed set upon facts here that he doesn't dispute. so what he admits to is something that i think that people can look at, maggie, and say, my god. if you're a 60-plus-year-old man in a position of power, even the most benign interpretation of his conversation with charlotte bennett crosses lines. >> particularly in the sort of, it's not post-me too era, but we are in a moment that me too is very front and center. and this is a governor that is very familiar with that movement and has talked about championing women's rights. it is jarring. to your question about what does an investigation do, i think the question is, do other women come forward? i think that is something that the governor's office and the governor himself are very concerned about, because if, as andrew cuomo says in his statement, i make jokes like this sometimes and you have to assume that there's a strong likelihood that he made these jokes with somebody else or multiple somebody els. and what do they say, now in an investigation where the attorney general will have subpoena power. it goes in directions that andrew cuomo can't control and doesn't want. >> david, as we've pointed out, democrats handled this so differently than republicans when indications like this are made. you know obviously, al franken springs to mind. he's gone and 15 women came forward with similar accusations against donald trump or worse and he survived and just said that they were lying. so the democrats that have come forward to say this is unacceptable from governor cuomo, what's their plan? >> it's interesting. one thing that has struck me over the last couple of days, as all of this has come out, in some ways, the cuomo coalition hasn't really abandon him quite yet. there are calls for him to resign, but they are mostly coming from the people who were calling for him to resign three weeks ago. it's donald trump aligned republicans and it's progressive lawmakers, who have never really liked him you're still seeing sort of legislative leaders, you know, mainstream democrats, there's still -- i haven't seen a lot of cuomo needs to resign from them. you're seeing a lot, this needs to be investigated, everything needs to be heard. but for now, it seems as if it's still kind of holding together. i don't know how much longer that will be able to last, but it's there now. >> maggie, why do you think that is? is it because the pace of it is so fast, you don't actually need to go out and get ahead of it? >> no, i think it's because these are a bunch of democrats. and david has an excellent piece on this in "new york" magazine. the degree to which there are years of democrats who would like revenge against andrew cuomo for various slights, while he was in office and various behaviors by hmm. but they know that he's very powerful overall as a governor. he's been seen as very successful overall. he generally does well with the public. his approval rating, obviously, what the polling is in a couple of days. he has held up with this nursing home issue a couple of weeks ago, and there have been other issues in the past, john, where it has seemed that he is in real political peril and nothing has happened. i don't think democrats want to get ahead of their skis and be the people that called for him to resign, given the likelihood that is not something that's going to happen. and based on the existing fact set, i don't think they feel like they can do that. they're calling for an investigation. if you see a bunch of other additional women come forward, i think you can see this changing very quickly, but for now win expect it to stay the way it is, if the existing fact set stays as it is. >> david, how long will this investigation take? >> we're just starting. they're still sort of figuring out the parameters. but the democrats i talked to in albany and around new york today are sort of preparing for, if this goes forward, a kind of long slog. this could be weeks, months for attorney general james, or whoever she appoints to gather all the facts. there's a chance that cuomo hangs on because this is such a slow-moving story, as they get witnesses and interview people and we pick it back up in six months or something. >> maggie, david, thank you both very much for all of your reporting. >> thank you. okay, another coronavirus vaccine is on the way. new details on how soon the johnson & johnson doses will be available to you. that's next. also coming up, my interview with former qanon followers. the disturbing things that they continue to hear that could be coming this week. stick around for that. they said it couldn't be done... but you managed to pack a record 1.1 trillion transistors into this chip. whoo! yeah! oh, hi. i invested in invesco qqq. a fund that invests in the innovators of the nasdaq 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know which way it's going to go, because we have two directions. we have the optimistic direction, which is, we get a lot of vaccines out, there is a lot of immunity in the community already, and the weather is getting warmer, maybe we could beat this next surge, but we don't know whether these more contagious variants could outpace the speed of the vaccine rollout. we also don't know, there are vaccines or variants, rather, that may render the vaccines less effective and we don't know the extent to what that may occur. as it has been throughout the rest of the pandemic, let's be humble about what we know and don't know, but takes matters into our own hands as much as p possible, but make common sense decisions. i think the cdc need to provide much better guidance to people about what they can do once people are fully vaccinated. it's just not realistic to tell people, you have to do exactly the same thing that you did pre-vaccine. that's going to dissuade people from actually getting 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could be carriers to the rest of their family, but if they're careful during the travel and continue to wear masks, there are families that can be reunited together and that will go a long way to restore system sense of normality in our everyday lives. >> dr. lina nguyen, thank you so much for being with us this morning. really appreciate your input. >> thank you. tiger woods making his first public comments after being seriously injured in a rollover crash. woods thanked his fellow golfers for their support, honoring him by wearing his signature red and black that he wears in the last day of a tournament. the golf great wrote on twitter, quote, it's hard to explain how touching today was when i turned on the tv and saw all the red shirts. to every golfer and every fan, you are truly helping me get through this tough time. on friday, woods was moved to cedar sinai medical center for follow-up surgery on the serious leg injuries he suffered in the crash. a spokesman says the procedures 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did you ever know who q was? >> no. hmm-mm. >> jay, i mean, did you know who was feeding this information and like who the ring leader of it was? >> no. >> i didn't know that i was in a qanon group until i got out of it. i had no idea that the information i got was qanon information. >> so do you guys think that there are particular media types, media personalities who also are a gateway to conspiracy theories and qanon? >> well, newsmax, which is a tv station, definitely. they're just -- their reportings are really off the wall. >> i can remember when glenn beck joined fox news is when my mom became susceptible to conspiracy theories. she hung on his every word and in the recent years, tucker carlson. >> definitely fox news, one american news, oan, stuff like this is the easiest way to get into that stuff now. >> i found myself, you know, eliminating 98% of media so i could exclusively watch, you know, fox news and they tell you don't go anywhere else. keep your attention here. so if you go to any of these ot other stations it's fake news and that's a huge part of what's radicalizing people. >> many my chat groups, the only outside media sources of getting information other than the group that they ever said we could, i guess, trust, would have been newsmax or there's right side broadcasting network. i don't know if they're actually on tv. i know that they're on you tube. >> show of hands, how many of you think that we have a domestic terrorism and white supremacy problem in this country. all of you. >> just everything happened with trump, and just his view on the whole thing, and it just really, you know, ignites the fire of white supremacy and racism! >> my concern is the threats that weave the conspiracies together are thinly veiled white supremacy, thinly vailed anti-semitism. >> when i was in these groups, we're not racist, i'm not sneaking out on wednesday nights to kkk meetings. i thought i wasn't racist, being out of it, i have taken it upon myself to have conversations and i've bought books, and i'm reading, and i'm learning, but as far as domestic terrorism, i think qanon is a domestic terrorist group. >> it seems that what some of the people say, there's a lot of anger and there's a lot of confusion. i think it's going to get worse. i worry about a lot of violence. >> the conversation that's been said in these groups is when march 4th happens, if trump isn't back, they need to start planning, and they will switch how they talk and communicate, whether it's online or over the phone. they're going to switch the meaning of their words so nobody can pick up and flag it. >> i have already picked up on that. >> do you have any examples of that. >> speaking of a certain group of people that they consider less desirable, they will use the term canadians. >> so they don't like a particular demographic here in america. >> yes, and they refer to them as canadians. >> yes. >> and is this a particular racial group? >> yes. >> yeah, can i add to that? >> yes. >> you have just this huge group of people that feel that their country is in danger, their children are in danger, their freedom is in danger, and so they feel like they have to go to war and they have to fight to get things back right. >> i think the biggest thing, you know, that we're looking at, especially coming out of the capitol riots on january 6th is that people are emboldened to take matters into their own hands. >> i'm trying to warn everybody of what i see that's going to come, and if this group cannot be stopped and when march 4th comes and goes, we're going to be hoping and praying that they push another date out there, because if not, the insurrection is going to be a drop in the bucket compared to what's going to happen. >> that's the chilling part of this. the idea, the message, the uniform message from all of them, people who have been on the inside is they think it's going to get worse. >> our hope was, okay, people are being arrested. after the insurrection at the capitol, maybe without trump, you know, goading them on, maybe it will die down. these are people with their finger on the pulse, and they don't think that it's dying down, and they don't hear in the chat rooms and from their relatives that are still in that anything is dying down. >> the former president spoke to cpac yesterday, his coming out party was filled with the election lie, the big lie, and that will be heard. >> on tomorrow's pulse of the people, you'll hear about how the top row of people you just saw, they were qanon followers. they fell into the rabbit hole for a long time. they'll talk about how they pulled themselves out of it, how they got out to see reality and the advice they have for anybody who is dealing a loved one who is still in it. >> they all think that white supremacy exists. there's another network whose prime time show, white supremacists, where, i don't see it. >> they're the people stoking these feelings of unreality. >> really? >> i can't wait to watch. >> very good. "new day" continues right now. former president donald trump closed out this year's cpac with a speech filled with one lie after another. >> we have a sick and corrupt electoral process that must be fixed immediately. this election was rigged. >> he's clearly the boss of the republican party. they listen to what he says even when he says things that aren't true. >> the house passed the $1.9 trillion covid relief bill. >> johnson & johnson has 3.9 million doses ready to go. >> it's hard to test them side by side. >> this is a good vaccine. >> this is "new day" with alisyn camer camerota. >> lies about the election, threats that don't support the lies, a new republican enemies list, the former president spoke in public for the first time since leaving office and he made clear what he thinks the republican party is, a party that he promised to stay in. >> wie have the republican part. it's going to unite and be stronger than ever before. i'm not starting a new party. >> the former president dangled the possibility of a new run for the presidency. the mere suggestion of it has very real implications for the republican party today. >> also developing overnight, new york governor andrew cuomo issued a statement of apology after a second woman, a former aide accuses him of sexual harassment. cuomo acknowledging that some of his behavior may have been insensitive or too personal. while insisting he has never inappropriately touched or propositioning anyone. what happens next, can he survive these allegations. video from kentucky of johnson & johnson's newly approved vaccine rolling out across the united states. the new single dose vaccin

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