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militia that conducted the strikes. we allowed and encouraged the iraqis to investigate and develop intelligence and that was very helpful to us in refining the target. >> pentagon spokesman john kirby says this strike was done in conjunction and coordination with allies in the region. >> oren, what does this tell you about president biden's larger military strategy when it comes to the middle east? >> we know the big question for the biden administration is u.s. allies in the region is iran and how to handle iran. it's not just diplomatically with iran's nuclear program. it goes beyond that -- iran's ballistic missiles, actions in the region. the key focus is iran. certainly there are other questions when it comes to the middle east. what the biden administration will do when it comes to yemen, syria. but the overarching umbrella is iran, and that's where the focus will be. that's why this is so sensitive. it wasn't a large-scale massive strike. it looks like a small calculated strike, one meant to make sure iraq and allies know there's a cost for strikes again the u.s. it was not meant to escalate the situation. that was not the goal of the biden administration. that's what john kirby said, the pentagon spokesman. that gives you the idea the true approach and primary approach will be one of diplomacy first and military second. >> let's get to the ground. arwa damon is in baghdad for us. arwa, this is the first known military strike under president biden. what will the reaction be there? >> well, there's a couple of things to take into consideration, don. there are potentially plenty of targets that the u.s. could have chosen to strike inside iraq itself. the fact that they decided to take out a location that is in syria albeit long the board we are iraq does indicate a certain level of awareness as to how tenuous the situation within iraq itself actually is at this moment. remember, the key battlefield when it comes to this ongoing conflict between the united states and iran is here in iraq. but it also comes with grave repercussions for this country itself. we all remember what happened with the fallout that took mace after the u.s. killed top iranian general qassem soleimani just over a year ago, and now we still have these calls within iraq, within some of the pretty goods who are close to these iranian backed shia militias and others who want to see all u.s. forces leave. it's highly unlikely we'll hear anything more than a tepid response from the iraqi government if even that. and it's also worth noting, don, that if we talk about the broader iraqi population they are beyond fed up with seeing their country used as a proxy battlefield. they're beyond fed up with the fact that iran has been meddling within their affairs for quite some time right now. and so you do have this slight rise in anti-iranian sentiment in the population. but if we're talking about actually trying to reign in the iranian backed militias, what we saw last night was a return back to the way that business was being conducted between the u.s. and iran, specifically when it comes to iraq to the prekilling of qassem soleimani era. by that i mean the iranian militias would carry out rocket attacks mostly against the green zone, most of them landing within the vicinity of the u.s. embassy located there, and then the u.s. would respond by taking out any number of targets that were within iraq or syria. what is going to be happening next? that is going to be a key and crucial point when it comes to defining not only how this battle between the u.s. and iran unfolds but also how it unfolds specifically within iraq. >> arwa damon in baghdad, oren lieberman at the pentagon in the united states. now breaking news on covid relief bill. president biden won't be getting the 15$15 minute men and women wage hike he wanted. amanda carpenter and anna navarro are here to discuss. we're told the president is disappointed about the minimum wage hike, but without it is it an even harder no vote on a very popular bill in most americans want the bill. they need to help. >> i'm not sure why the democrats took so much time complicating the debate with the minimum wage hike. obvious that this wasn't going to be included in budget reconciliation. senate watchers will tell you to pass 50 votes it has to do with taxes and spending. trying to raise the midnimum wae doesn't relate to taxes and spending. democrats wasted time. they should have delivered the skinny bill to provide checks and schools and businesses. republicans can feel like they can sit on the sidelines and it gets passed either way and democrats just wasted a couple of weeks doing it. >> manu raju talked to two dozen republican lawmakers who are refusing to at mitt the election was not rigged. has the gop become the party of lies? where ared th the ideas from th party? >> i don't know. i wish i could hear ideas. i think the ideas are in a small minority right now represented by people like adam kinzinger, liz cheney, mitt romney. people are willing to stand on traditional republican principles and convictions. everybody else, i guess, is going to cpac to kiss the ring of an impeached president who has imagencited a insurrection. and that's fine. i think this has been a really embarrassing day for the republican party. between hearing that mitch mcconnell say even though he has said in public on the floor of the senate that donald trump incited this insurrection that cost people's lives on january 6th, he would still definitely -- >> let's listen to him and then you finish your statement. here it is. >> if the president was the party's nominee, would you support him? >> the nominee of the party? absolutely. >> go ahead, anna. >> i can't. i don't know what to say about that. it was less than two weeks ago he was saying on the floor of the senate -- i didn't vote to acquit the president because i think he's innocent. i think he had absolutely everything to do with inkiting the insurrection, but i think you should go after him in criminal courts. if that's, you know, what's open. and then -- so you're basically saying, okay, so i think this guy has done things that are so bad that he can be pursued in criminal court, but if he's still the republican nominee i will absolutely support him. you cannot compromise your conscious to that level. s sitting on a fence has got to hurt, okay? have you ever tried actually sitting on a fence? it is not comfortable. it hurts body parts if you still have it. >> that was vivid. so, listen, amanda, marco rubio is questioning why liz cheney says trump shouldn't have a well in the party going forward. when asked about pushing election lies this weekend, rubio said he can say whatever he wants to say. so, liars get a free pass. people who vote their conscious like cheney get punished? >> here's the thing -- you're asking where is the republican party when it comes to ideas. rational sane people are basically fighting for facts like, was the election stolen or not? no, joe biden won fair and square. we're just trying to get people to live in reality. i really like what liz cheney and adam kinzinger are doing. it gives me hope. >> let me ask you, amanda. they're doing the right thing. don't get me wrong. but how many people can you name, republicans, who are -- i'm not talking about republicans who are not in office. republicans who are out there and frustrated. but the people who are actual lawmakers in washington. when you say that gives you hope, there are a lot of hahms w lawmakers to voted not to impeach the president after an insurrection was incited. how do two people give you hope? seriously. >> okay, so, listen. when i look at cpac this weekend i see a lost cause crowd. and i see donald trump is going to freeze the republican field for as long as he wants. because people in the trump wing, so to speak are not going to go anything to oppose him. not until he says, okay, i'm not going to run. which he'll never do. i'm not saying it's going to be easy. i'm not saying it's going to be likely for an anti-trump republican or trump skeptical republican, but there is opportunity there to start laying ground work because there has to be a new coalition to be built. and i see people like adam kinzinger looking at it and trying -- you know, i just get frustrated when people are like, oh, it can't be done because trump controls everything. well, you know what? let's make the argument. let's try something. >> that's fair. i ask you how do you see hope in two people. anna, i got ten seconds. >> i'll tell you why -- >> are you optimistic? >> the reason we see hope in two people is because amanda and i have been at this for four years and we have been the only two people. all of a sudden we're doubled. >> all right, four people! >> a few former castaways than there was for four years now. it feels like we could actually huddle and keep each other warm if it got really cold right now. >> and cha-cha. don't forget cha-cha. >> cha-cha's been anti-trump from day one. brown girl from miami who only speaks spanish. >> thank you. we're talking about anna's dog, by the way. so, 10,000 rioters stormed the capital. capital police warning the danger is not over yet. the proud boys were part of the mob. now the leader talks with cnn for the first interview since the attack. >> i think right now is a time to -- go ahead and -- overthrow the government by becoming the new government and running for office. 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>> i was celebrating. i'll celebrate the moment the government does fear the people. at that point -- again, i didn't have all the information that came in, and all that. >> do you wish that you didn't do that? >> no, i'll -- another thing is i'll never regret something that i said. >> they are doing the job that the people put them there to do and if they don't like it they can vote them out. they are still americans. they are still human beings who felt that their lives were in danger. how can you not feel any sympathy for any empathy towards someone like that? >> i'm not going to worry about people that their only worry in life is to be re-elected. >> we got a whole boat load of proud boys. >> reporter: he was not there. he was arrested in d.c. two days before for burning a black lives matter weapon stolen from a church and having empty magazines. but a group of proud boys was there. the far right group is known across the country for brawling with members of antifa, a left wing anti-fascist movement. they're also known for throwing support behind president donald trump, whose words to them exploded their priority. >> proud boys, stand back and stand by. >> i think we've doubled in numbers since the debate. >> reporter: he has ties with roger stone. stone was in d.c. january 6th as people rallied against the election results that showed trump lost. stone did not march to the capitol and was not charged with a crime. instead stone was seen with members of the oath keepers and proud boys who have now become a central focus of law enforcement in the capital attack investigation. tario had such a close w relationship with roger stone, he revealed this. >> do you have access to roger stone's phone? >> a couple of times i went to see him i'd help him with social media posts and things like that. >> reporter: his access to that phone landed him in front a federal grand jury amount a detail not revealed until now. stone was facing lying to and witness tampering. trump pardoned him. stone was accused of then, the judge in a case with a social media post, an image of a judge and what i peered to be a target behind her head. >> i testify in the front of the grand jury, but, no, there was no -- that picture was brought up on a google search, right? so you used to be able to search -- not now, obviously, because -- >> back up. just said what you said. did you just say you were on a grand jury panel? you did. >> i did. >> it's too late to take it back now. >> yeah, mean, that's the story -- it's not a secret. that's the story that came out that -- they wanted to see if -- who was it that posted it at that point. the actual crosshairs isn't really a crosshairs. it's a logo of the organization that wrote the article. so it was just like a graphic. and then that was posted. i have no idea who actually posted it, but i know that i have nothing to do with it. >> reporter: stone is one of the architects of the stop the steal rallying cry, but tario does not buy into the lie that the election was stolen. he says he just wants more transparency. do you believe that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from donald trump? >> no, i don't. i don't believe the election was stolen. >> reporter: yet, he encouraged his proud boys to show up january 6th in numbers. a group of them did show up. here they are marching together towards the capital. at least eight proud boys tario knows have been charged in the capitol siege. this is one of them, using a police officer's shield to bust out a window in the capitol, allowing people to flood in. >> i condemn the actions. i don't think he should have done that. i think it was completely wrong. but the other seven individuals were trespassing. i think they got caught up with the entire crowd and they made a poor decision to go in there. >> members of the proud boys didn't appear to just be getting caught up in this. some of them were leading this attack. you had people removing barriers who are proud boys. you had someone threatening a officer, breaking a capitol window. they weren't just following in this insurrection. it appears that some of them were leading the charge. >> no, those three accusations -- i do want to touch on those. the breaking of the window we've already hit. the threatening -- >> you think that's wrong. >> yeah, definitely. unequivocally i think that's wrong. the threatening of police officers, i didn't see that. >> the feds have. they have video of william crestman yelling, you shoot and i'll take your [ bleep ] out. >> i can't tell you about crestman because i can't locate who he's affiliated with. if he's even a proud boy. >> crestman's attorney says he was following trump's orders that day. tario says members who reached the capitol are being unfairly charged with conspiracy. >> did the proud boys have a plan to go into the capitol. >> absolutely not. >> reporter: he puts some of the blame on police for being unprepared to thwart the mob. >> oh, [ bleep ], we're tearing it down. >> reporter: and he claims some of the proud boys simply walked in to record history. >> there's nobody that stopped them from going in. you feel like it's something that's wrong, that you shouldn't do. >> but are you blaming the police for telling people not to break the law? >> i'm not blaming the cops at all. >> i can blame the police officers and feds for their inability to respond to this. so, was it a mistake to even go into the capitol? >> reporter: was it? >> yes. >> reporter: do you condemn those people? >> i can't say that. i think condemn is a strong word. i think it's a little bit too strong. >> reporter: he thinks the fbi is trying to make an example of the proud boys. he has a history with the fbi after being sentenced to federal prison for fraud in 2012. >> were you an informant for the fbi? >> i was -- to put it simply, i was put in a very tough situation where the federal government had wanted me to testify against my brothers. >> reporter: he said he refused and instead his defense attorney said he cooperated with the fbi and other law enforcement on many cases. one involving prescription drugs. another, a marijuana raid, an illegal gambling bust and more, but tario would only admit to cooperating on one case. >> the only thing i actually gave them was the human trafficking ring, and again, i'm in the going to apologize for it. >> reporter: what is next for the proud boys and the country in tario has already made a plan. >> i think now is the time to go ahead and overthrow the government by becoming the new government and running for office. >> sarah sidner joins me now. that is my question, sarah. so he's actually considering running himself? was that a serious comment? >> reporter: absolutely dead serious. he is definitely considering running. he says that he may even step down as the chairman of the proud boys in order to do that. and not only that, but in order to support others who are of like minds to also help them run for office as well. now, there is a twist to this of course. he might have a little bit of public relations problem in his campaign because canada has recently designated the proud boys a terrorist organization, and that could cause him problems with some constituents but he says he believes he can wink like so many other politicians. >> great reporting, but this is how i characterize your reporting. a study in contrast. he would say this, and then you would say, but -- this is what actually happened. >> reporter: yeah, there's a lot of give and take. and you know this from doing interviews yourself, don. tough challenge people. a lot of people talk about, why give this person a platform? because he's an american citizen. he breathes the same air we do, and he is not going away and neither are the proud boys. they are still very much at play here and we expect to see more things from them going forward. the group is still around and may be around for a while. >> good stuff, sarah. thank you so much. i appreciate it. a story of unimaginable grief in texas. a woman losing her three children and mother to a house fire while trying to stay warm in the power out annals. jackie nguyen shares the legacy of her beautiful family. next. apps are used everywhere... except work. why is that? 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>> around 5:00, that's when the power went out. we lit up the fireplace, which isn't something, you know -- i use that fireplace so it wasn't something weird or foreign or anything like that. we stayed warm because we were kind of all huddled around each other and layered up and had a fire going. and everybody kind of got tired around 9:30, 10:00. and just like every other day, don, i tucked my kids into bed and gave my mom a kiss that night and headed down to my room. next thing i know, i woke up in the hospital without my kids and waited several hours later only to find out that i had lost everything. >> you don't remember anything, right, except waking up in the hospital? >> no. i mean, bits and pieces in my head, but i really don't remember anything. people say that that's harder, the kind of smoke inhalation that i had taken in. >> maybe the body's way of coping with the trauma, because again, i mean -- ugh. who's helping you deal with this now, jackie? do you have a support system? >> i do. you know, thank god i've got my brother who lives in the woodlands. i'm actually in his home office right now. i've got family that's flown in. my sister from new york and another sister from california. and then, you know, brothers from all over the country coming in to help me. yeah, just a handful of really good long time friends that have been like aunts and uncles to my kids. and they have been so helpful and that's how i have been able to free up some time to talk to folks like you. >> i heard so much about your kids from producers and reading about them. they all had such big personalities. your youngest is colette, right. and you called her coco, 5. you had a son edison. loved art. edison is 8 years old. the quote said, sweet boy, he's an artist. and then you have olivia, our eldest, who's 11 years old. said she had a sarcastic sense of humor and loved skiing. tell me about your special children. >> my darling olivia, my first born -- i'll tell you about the time she first started talking, she would say, love love instead of i love you. and then love love just kind of stuck, and that's what our family says to each other for the past 12 years. and olivia considered that kind of her claim to fame among her siblings. and she loved to claim the fact that she's the one that made me a mom. as far as personalities go, you know, she's -- she was meek but just so, so strong. there's so much depth to her, and that's what kind of lends itself to the sarcasm and what not. but, you know, she just really loved and cared for people in such a deep way. in november she spent weeks curating a spotify play list for her brother edison for his birthday as a gift to him. and it was so good, don. she noticed that i had -- i was listening to it so much that she made me one more my birthday, which we all just celebrated together just a few weeks ago. >> i can see where she got the strength from, because i'm sure people are watching and i'm in awe of your strength that you're actually sitting here. and then you said edi zson, you called him sweet boy. he was an artist, interest in the modern the rt and architecture and had recently been going running with his mom. class of 2031. just saw the picture there. >> yeah. i had edison shortly after my father passed away about nine years ago, and that loss was devastating for me. and my son filled that gaping hole in my heart. that was especially, especially true for my mom. he was the obvious favorite in my mom's eyes, and the girls knew it. he was a lot like my dad in many ways, so i think that gave my mom a great feel of comfort, feeling like my dad was still with us. >> yeah, and then coco was never fraed, totally unapologetic. not imitated. loved taylor swift and sean mendes and wanted to be a head cheer leader and class president. >> yeah, she wanted to do it all. words can't capture, like, how big her personality was. >> yeah. >> people just were drawn in by her poeersonality and her energ. she started at the school my two older ones are at six years after olivia started and months in, people were referring to olivia as coco's sister. >> she can wear a red dress. she looks great in the red dress. your mother lee immigrated from vietnam with your father. she arrived with nothing and sacrificed everything for her grandchildren. you said that lee and grandmas like her are unsung heros that bridge the gap for working mom ♪ amen. tell me more about your amazing mom. >> she did afternoon pickup for me and did the grocery shopping. and those things -- i mean, they sound menial and mundane, but as a single working mom, that is huge. and those are the things that allowed me honestly to pursue a career. and more importantly it made the most of my evenings with the kids. i got to be involved in their school and activities like girl scouts. you know, i really wanted my girls to see that women can do it all and i wanted my son to be the kind of man that, like, steps up. like i said, my mom really kind of bridged that gap for me to be able to do that and for my kids to be able to see that. >> well, jackie, thank you. listen, i know the pain of loss, but not like yours. i can't -- there's no comparison. i saw my mom when she lost her child, and i am told that there's no greater loss for a parent. so everyone who's watching this in the world, we're keeping you in our -- our arms are wrapped around you, and we're keeping you in our thoughts and prayers. hang tight with our support system. take care of yourself. i'm so grateful you came on this program to honor your kids and mom. be well. i can't say it enough. thank you. >> thank you. we'll be right back. tonight i'll be eating a calzone from doughballs in aurora. 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