if you go by the seven-day averages here, new cases dropped 58.5%. hospitalizations dropped 44%. head of the world health organization says the number of new cases has been declining now for the fifth consecutive week. >> so far this year the number of weekly reported cases has fallen by almost half. from more than 5 million cases in the week of january 4 to 2.6 million cases in the week starting february 8. just five weeks. this shows that simple public health measures work. even in the presence of variants. what matters now is how we respond to this trend. the fire is not out, but we have reduced its size. >> let's talk about this now with dr. wilbur chen, an in infe infectious disease expert and serves on the cdc's advisory committee on immunization practices. okay. let's talk about the good news here. i mean, the numbers are still high, but we are seeing this big drop. that is certainly welcome news. tell us what you're seeing. tell us why we're seeing this drop. tell us how we keep it going. >> yeah. i think that we're past the winter holiday surges. so we had a lot of private gatherings, where we've probably had a lot of transmission. i think that that's what we're getting over right now. and that's why we're seeing a huge decline. in the next few weeks we're hoping we'll have falling temperatures and warming of temperatures, and a higher humidities that will also create the right environment for the virus cases to come down as well. so i think that those are the two things that i see as hopeful, as we continue to roll out those vaccines. >> i think we're all feeling this hope, seeing the vaccines, but then also keeping an eye trained on these new variants detected in the u.s. we know there is seven u.s. mutations and the impact, the same part of the virus, the spike protein. a lead researcher said "this stretch of spike is important because of its proximity to a region key for virulence." meaning, is this going to affect the way someone might transmit or receive coronavirus? are they going to get more viral load? do you have worries there? >> yes, i do. i think that, again, as we see more and more of these variants and more mutationing accumulating on that spike protein, the ever-important region called the receptor binding domain is the specific part of the spike protein, that's where we fear there will be increased severity, but also the ability for the virus to potentially evade our diagnostic measures perhaps the antibodies and vaccines as well and we want to watch it very carefully. >> still susceptible to vaccines, though is that what you're seeing? >> right. not like an on and off switch. where all of a sudden the vaccine doesn't work at all. more like a gradation. again, seeing the mrna-based vaccines 95% efficacy. the variations of the mutations on the spike of the protein, we can see the efficacies decrease. we want to preserve the full efficacy of these vaccines by preventing more variant viruses, but, again, these vaccines are effective, and they continue to be useful. >> and right now the vaccines are exceeding 1 million a day. the seven-day average is 1.6 million vaccinations a day, but the number of doses administered by state, it's really all over the place. 75% of doses received have been administered in alaska. then in alabama, for example, the number is so much lower. how do you nation? >> yeah. and i guess, you know, each local jurisdiction, each state, has a different way of deploying their vaccine. so i really don't know if i can comment on that, but i do know that the national allotments have been very frustrating to all of the local state jurisdictions. i think it's been unpredictable. we were hoping for more and more allotments as time went on. we're hearing about, again, difficulties with vaccine supply from the manufacturers themselves. in the next few weeks we hope this gets better, because we're hoping that pfizer and moderna are both being able to produce vaccines in shorter amount of time. moderna is now able to vile more vaccine doses per vilal. hoping a third vaccine will become available in the next weeks. the states i think are learning how to deploy these vaccines, and we've not had to deploy vaccines at this level for, you know, more than a century or more, or never, and so i think that, again, local jurisdictions are really trying to learn how to do this on the fly. >> yeah. it is a huge undertaking. doctor wilbur chen, thank you, sir, for being with us. >> thank you. a major revelation today from president biden's chief medical adviser dr. anthony fauci. fauci telling axios that when he worked under the trump administration, he worried about personally contracting coronavirus. the trump white house was known to not enforce mask wearing, of course. multiple people in trump's orbit got infected including the president himself. the first lady and their son. at 80 years old, fauci is considered high risk for a severe coronavirus infection. >> i think you'd have to be oblivious not to consider the fact that if you get infected, that you are already in a category of someone who has a high risk of having a serious outcome. i didn't fixate on that, but it was in the back of my mind. because i had to be out there. i mean, particularly when i was going to the white house every day, when the white house was sort of a superspreader location. i mean, that made me a little bit nervous. >> covid cases may be on a downward trend in the u.s., but it continues to impact millions of americans and now the spotlight turns to president biden to get it under control. democrats racing pa pass the covid package soon as next week and the clock is ticking. 27 days left until unemployment benefits run out for millions of americans and democrats divided over a plan to push for a $15 minimum federal wage. covering all this on capitol hill for us, congress not in session this week. where does this stimulus plan stand? >> reporter: at this point, brianna it is in the house committees righ right now. the house not in session, committees are busy marking up a big almost $2 trillion aid package with the goal getting it passed, you mentioned, in the next couple week. this is democrats going at it alone. they would like republicans to be involved in the process. because of reconciliation, a tool that can be used on the senate side to pass legislation without a super majority, looks like democrats will be able to do it without republican support. they're looking in the range of a $1,400 steck liss check, more unemployment aid, aid for child care and states and schools, vaccines increases and raising minimum wage to $15. there will be some level of negotiation in this process amongst democrats. even though republicans would like to be involved. seems as though two areas in particular we could see some bargaining. the one comes with a $15 minimum wage. question whether or not that can make it through reconciliation but also at least two democratic senators that don't believe that the $15 minimum wage should be attached to this particular piece of legislation. that could run into trouble. then a question about who exactly would get this $1,400 stimulus check. the biden administration would like to see it at a certain income level and some push to maybe drop the income level, make it less accessible to some people. progressive democrats in particular are very much opposed and want to keep the level just like it was when the first round of checks were issued. so there's going to be a lot of back and forth over this over the next couple weeks, brianna. but democrats are pretty insistent they want something passed by at least middle of march. >> all right. coming up quickly. ryan nobles, thank you so much. live from capitol hill. reminder, president joe biden joins anderson cooper live from milwaukee, wisconsin, in an exclusive presidential town hall. tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern right here on cnn. and next, the conservative wall street journal tells the gop to move on from trump just as senator lindsey graham says the trump family is the future of the republican party. so which is it? 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>> i mean, i would like that to be the case, and certainly trump and trumpism has proven to be a political loser for republicans. i cannot take that editorial seriously or mumbling of other republicans how this problem is just going to take care of itself. because there was such a willingness to go along with all of the lies. i mean, the big election lie, until the minute there was an insurrection, and even then, i don't see a mass movement of republicans to say, you know what? the election was fair. and joe biden was the rightful winner. until we can engage with those questions about what went wrong and why so many republicans went along with it for so long in pursuit of power, trumpism is never going away. >> if, say, he does decide to run again in 2024, how will this vote by republicans, like mitch mcconnell and others who voted to acquit him, how will that be seen? i think from the outside and also from those folks themselves. >> it when just be more continuation of the republican civil war. right? like, that's what trump ran on in 2016. beating up the establishment. and even now, republicans have twice let him off the hook for impeachment. so you can argue that the party is even more united behind him on the most fringe of fronts going into another run. i just -- you know, mitch mcconnell -- really you have to examine what he tried to pull off there over the weekend in voting for trump's acquittal then giving a speech saying, well, put this behind us and someone somewhere else will take care of this. the courts will take care of it. republicans have been trying to reap the benefits of trumpism without ever taking responsibility for him, since he burst on the scene. and we're really supposed to rest easy now thinking that maybe some judge in georgia or some prosecutor is going to put it to rest? go read that "wall street journal" editorial. they talked how it would be so wrong if republicans ever support add vote to disqualify him from office. excuse me? did we not just witness the insurrection of the united states capitol that even mitch mcconnell said trump was responsible for, and you don't thinks that a disqualification for office? i mean -- the fact that anyone can look at the facts of this, and not put a vote down to say that he should never be anywhere near a ballot again, well, you've opened the door. the door's open. >> one of, if not "the" biggest enabler in the senate for trump, lindsey graham, now claims that trump's second impeachment has opened the door to the possible future impeachment of vice president kamala harris. let's listen to this. >> if you use this model, i don't know how kamala harris doesn't get impeached if the republicans take over the house, because she actually bailed out rioters and one of the rioters went back to the streets and broke somebody's head open. we've opened pandora's box here and i'm sad for the country. >> what's your reaction to that? >> i mean, this is why i don't feel good about the future. because who's telling lindsey graham this is nonsense? to is to be about the what-aboutism and get to the business of actually representing and doing good for the american people? i mean, this conspiratorial, vengeful way of campaigning seems to have no end, because there's a tolerance for it. mitch mcconnell can say whatever he wants, but as long as lindsey graham is going on every television show and dominating fox news at night, that's the message that gets across. >> i want to asking ing you something you wrote. former vice president pence has been so quiet when it comes to former president trump's impeachment trial. and you wrote in this new piece for the bulwark where you talked about the strategic silence of mike pence. and wonder if that silence is driven by complicity, cowardice or nihilism. why has pence remained silent? >> you know, i've been thinking so much about him, because he is such an -- a unique figure, in the fact that he was perpetrating the big election lie and then became a target of it. okay. donald trump and his supporters put a target on mike pence's back. and somehow through impeachment, he's kept quiet. he didn't have anything to say? he didn't want to defend himself? he didn't want to provide any witness as a fact and character witness about what he saw lead up to this and how he experienced it, just as a human being? but here's the kicker, brianna. he's not going to stay silent forever. he's in talks. he's going to do a podcast with the heritage foundation. he is going to keep talking at some point. so he's going to stay quiet when it mattered, when he had ability to protect himself, protect us, because i don't think this kind of violence is over, sadly. i hate to say that. but he's going to hold his speech until he wants to go out and promote the policies and work with the movement that built up donald trump and worked with the people that put that target on his back? i mean that is just a very dark place, and i wonder if pence's character and his thinking is just indicative of the broader nihilistic approach that the republican party has taken in politics where, you know what? nothing matters, except for trump. not even our own lives. >> it's a really interesting column. we only got to touch on it. amanda carpenter, thanks for being with us. >> thank you. next, senator lindsey graham calls lara trump future of the republican party as she eyes a run in the senate at north carolina. we will take you live to the state. oh, you think this is just a community center? 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>> reporter: brianna, in terms whether or not he can, he can, in fact, remove a board member for quote/unquote cause. the kedeference's cause a very loose. outside groups are calling on president biden to do saying that the cause is the fact this trump-appointed board didn't step in, didn't intervene, when dejoy was making massive changes to the postal service ahead of the election. fortunate president biden goes this route remains up in the air. president biden has this on his radar but what exactly and when exactly they choose to act is unknown. we should note here that biden wouldn't have to necessarily take that kind of an action to actually stack the board. just because of term limits, because of the fact that there are still open seats on the board, biden could technically appoint people now, get majority and eventually remove dejoy, should the board choose to do so, should he appoint people with like-minded viewpoints as he did. so, again, lots of questions on what exactly biden will choose to do. however, one thing we do know is that dejoy wants to stay in the position. he told numerous people close to him he wants to be the post master general in this administration. we know as early as this week planning on releasing a ten-year plan for the postal service. i got sto tell you, people in ad around the postal office are concerned. that he hope americans are already seeing so many delays in mail. they don't want them to see anymore. >> kristin holmes, thank you for the update. pandemic or not a three-day holiday weekend, and people are taking flight. according to the tsa, millions are ignoring cdc advice against traveling. cnn's pete montane reports the weekend saw a surge at nation's airports. >> reporter: brianna, this is the busiest air travel has been since the holidays, and what's so interesting is whether or not these numbers will last. the tsa just said 900,000 people, passed through security, at american's airports sunday. 900,000 people saturday. more than a million on friday. more than 1.1 million people on thursday. that means more than 4 million people have flown in four days' time. numbers that the airlines say we would not be seeing if the cdc mandated that dough mestic travs get tested for coronavirus before their think. something thrust into the limelight by the transportation secretary pete buttigieg saying the biden administration was working with the cdc and any decision guided by data. airlines pushed back hard and airlines met with the biden administration and a few hours after that meeting friday the cdc and white house said it was not considering a domestic travel testing mandate, at least not at this time. the cdc only recommending now that passengers get tested one to three days before the start of their trip. then again, three to five days end of their trip. again, just a recommendation. we'll see if passengers traveling this weekend actually followed through with that. it appears travelers are following through with another recommendation from the cdc. frankly, just to not travel in general, and these new numbers show that. there are only about 45% of what they were a year ago. brianna? >> pete muntean, thank you so much. right now, new york governor andrew cuomo is speaking live as he faces more pressure over and alleged cover-up of deaths inside, or deaths, nursing home deaths i should say. stand by. we are awaiting his response to calls from democrats looking to strip his emergency powers. the trump presidency changed the republican party. take senator lindsey graham, for instance. back in 2016, graham tweeted if trump is nominated, we, meaning republicans, will get destroyed. then fast-forward to yesterday. the senator has a new attitude about the former president and the gop. >> he's ready to move on and rebuild the republican party. he's excited about 2022, and i'm going to go down to talk with him next week, play a little golf and florida and said, mr. president, this maga movement needs to continue. we need to unite the party. trump-plus is the way back in 2022. >> the senator didn't stop there. took it one step further. >> the biggest winner i think of this whole impeachment trial is lara trump. by dear friend richard burr alike just made lara trump almost a certain nominee for the senate seat in north carolina to replace him if she runs and i will certainly be behind her because i think she represents the future of the republican party. >> rusty jacobs is a political reporter for wunc north carolina public radio with us now. thank you so much for being with us. lara trump, what kind of reception could she get from north carolina voters? >> i think implicit, or not even implicit, pretty clearly lindsey graham's statement that there is a broad swath of republicans, voters who go to the polls for goch candidates. still put a lot of value in the trump brand. lara trump would be a continuation. if president trump, ex-president trump can't find his way back into politics, perhaps a relative bearing the same name could. a native of wilmington, north carolina, out there on the coast. went to nc state university and has the trump brand. that could give her a boost, a boost, but there are republicans specifically former governor, former congressman mark walker who takes exception to that. that he was probably the first prominenten republican candidate to declare his candidacy or desire to run to replace richard burr. >> so that -- okay, so that may be someone who she would potentially face. i wonder, you know, when you think about the qualifications -- sorry. go on. >> no. that's it. you know, mark walker decided not to run for re-election to congress in 2020. his district had been redrawn under court direction. it now favors democrats, but he saw his future as running for that 2022 seat, which, we should point out, richard burr said he would not run to get reelected to fill back in 2016 when he won re-election saying this would be his third and final term. >> when you think, rusty, about her qualifications. how, how would that shape up compared to who you would be used to seeing run for the senate? >> mark walker was a three-term congressman on the democratic side. jeff jackson is a state senator. he's got a very good resume for a political candidate. he served in the army in afghanistan. he is now a national guard judge advocate general lawyer. another candidate on the democratic side, erica smith, has experience as a state senator. so you've got a lot of people with political experience, but there are many more people coming to the polls. if anything, any indications, clear indications, from the 202 elections is a lot more people are going to the polls than have in the past, and maybe having a lot of service, a long political record, is not necessarily the most important credential for a political candidate. in that case, benefits someone like lara trump. >> and when we're talking about senator burr, he's facing censure, because he voted to convict president trump in his second impeachment trial. what is the message there for future political players in the state who, you know, maybe they aren't -- maybe they don't think, they don't want kind of trump to be the future of the republican party? is this something that sends a message to them? and certainly from how they contact themselves in terms of voting. >> i mean, certainly a chilling effect on anybody who wants to vote their conscience, if it leads then to conclude ex president trump was responsible for inciting the insurrection on january 6th. you know, richard burr had voted to block impeachment from proceeding. that's when there was a vote on constitutional grounds. whether constitutional to impeach someone who's no longer in office. that being said, once that issue was removed, he decided to sit as an impartial juror and said the evidence was compelling that president trump, then president trump, played a role in inciting that riot. the other hand, thom tillis, just won re-election to the u.s. senate representing north carolina, made the same vote on constitutionality and still decided to akuwait saying the issue was constitutional. hasn't been willing to say. he's made comments that indicate he believes there might be some responsibility on the president's part, but that impeachment wasn't the proper forum to look at that. so maybe it's not needing to run for re-election that gives people like richard burr the courage to vote their conscience. >> a very good observation indeed. rusty jacobs, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. next, president trump's legal battles are far from over, despite his acquittal in the senate. we will break down those legal battle, including a supreme court ruling that could determine whether his tax returns are ever released. the new myww+ gives you more of what you need to help you lose weight! more simplicity with the what's in your fridge? recipe feature. and more motivation with on-demand workout classes. the new myww+. join now, pay later! get your first three months free. the second impeachment trial of former president donald trump may be over but the nebs round of legal battles for trump is just beginning. he faces criminal investigations that could not only threaten his financial well-being but serve up jail time. much is hanging on a pending supreme court decision over whether new york prosecutors can get their hands on trump's tax returns. tracking the legal threats for us, give us the latesteer. >> brianna, you mentioned, most advanced of the investigations is the one brought by the manhattan district attorney's office looking into whether the former president and his company violated any state laws, having to do along with finances whether insurance fraud or possible tax fraud. delayed because of a fight over the grand jury subpoena. that case brought to the supreme court. put before the supreme court in october. no ruling yet whether the court will continue to pause that subpoena or allow it to be enforced, but that subpoena is critical to the investigation, sources tell cnn. that's not the only one, though. just last week in atlanta, the fulton county district attorney announced they are investigating the former president and his efforts to overturn the vote in georgia. the focus, the phone call where the president called georgia's secretary of state and pressed him to find the votes and just enough votes to swing it in his favor. there is also the secretary of state there, also investigating, that could turn criminal as well. in addition the justice department and d.c. attorney general who were investigating the insurrection. sources told cnn that the president's privately concerned he could get charged in that and the top official at the justice department handling the investigation said they are looking at all actors. that's not it. there's also a host of civil investigations and lawsuits that the former president is also facing. again, in new york, the new york attorney general is investigating his finances. that is also a broadened investigation that could potentially turn criminal and two defamation lawsuits brought by women accused him of sexual assault. those lawsuits delayed through the court system in large part because the president, former president, was in office. no longer he has that protection. these cases could start to move forward. one of those women is trying to get a deposition of the former president and a sample of his dna. legal issues are far from over. the president, former president, excuse me, donald trump, has denied all wrongdoing in these cases and the trump organization said they complied with the law, but this is going to be something that will preoccupy the former president, brianna, for quite a while. >> yeah. that is quite the list, it's like a clown car list. thank you so much for taking us through that. appreciate it. there have been four impeachments in american history. the standards changed dramatically over time. 11 senators who voted to impeach former president bill clinton in the '90s also voted to acquit donald trump on saturday. half in the house of representatives back then, and just a little history reminder clinton was impeached for lying under oath and for obstruction of justice. those 11 senators apparently making, in their votes, a calculation that a president having an affair with an intern and lying about it was impeachable behavior, but that inciting a deadly insurrection was not. clinton, of course, was also acquitted in his senate trial. joining me now, cnn's political director david chalian and with us also cnn contributor john dean who served white house counsel during the nixon administration. john, an interesting way to think about it. certainly i think, you know, when someone is more likely to see wrong with someone who is not in their party, but i wonder what your reaction is to these lawmakers who did vote to convict bill clinton, but voted to acquit donald trump? >> well, it's -- it's a pretty flimsy flip-flop, if you will. given lying about sexual activity in the oval office versus national security of the first dimension and an insurrection. so it struck me last night. i put together a tweet on this, and i could remember graham being in one of the managers, i saw him on the senate floor. got him in the wrong cue, but we was along with roy blunt and portsman and toon and kapo and morgan and weicker, all in the house. no problem at all starting an impeachment proceeding against clinton. in the senate, you had mcconnell, grassley, inhofe and shelby, who all voted to convict him. although, all voted to acquit mr. trump. it doesn't doesn't mix. it just doesn't work. they might have a mental disengagement okay. cincinnatus. i wonder, david, as you observe, these are two decisions lawmakers made at two different points in time. how do you make sense of this? >> i think you have to look at what they said, how they sort of make sense, and i agree with john. i don't think it really makes a ton of sense, but because they are using this copout and loophole of this notion that they didn't think the trial of donald trump there time around was constitutional because he had left office, they would immediately say, well, that was a different moment with clinton because they were, in their minds, properly trying an impeached president who was still serving. now, again, i think mitch mcconnell made -- made very clear in his speech on saturday that that's all that constitutional argument is, an excuse, because he clearly stated that he believes donald trump was guilty on the facts and that the only reason he voted to acquit was this notion that he didn't think the senate should be holding a rile. >> let's listen to part of that. the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell put a big emphasis on trump not coming out of this clean. >> president trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office as an ordinary citizen unless the statute of limitations has returns still liable for everything he did while he was in office. didn't get away with anything yet. >> and, john, i don't know if you heard our reporter walking through the list. each time it seemed like it might come to an end, there was some other kind of legal woe that donald trump is going to be face. it's a very long list. how likely is a prosecution? >> well, as we heard several in the senate have now issued statements where they think he should be held criminally responsible, and this includes republicans. even chuck grassley issued a long statement that said -- >> john, i'm so sorry. i'll have you pause. we need to listen in now to governor andrew cuomo. >> let me -- i want to clarify facts on the nursing homes which has been an ongoing discussion. new york, as everybody knows, was ground zero for covid and nursing homes were and still are ground zero for covid, and losing a loved one is very, very painful. losing a loved one in a nursing home during this situation was extraordinarily painful. there is with no visitation. you couldn't be with the person. you couldn't talk to the person. it was hard to get them on the phone. people in nursing homes are not as conversant and fascile on zoom and facetime. it doesn't work that way. i understand fully how difficult it has been, and i want to make sure people have all the facts, the facts, the information. this past year there's a toxic political environment, and everything gets politicized, and there's political spin and then there are facts, two very different things, and i just want to be sure that people have facts. last august the department of justice sent a letter to democratic governors, four of them, new york, new jersey, michigan and pennsylvania asking for public information on nursing homes. the new york state legislature also sent a letter asking for information on nursing homes. we paused the state legislator's request while we were finishing the doj request. we told both houses, the assembly and the senate, that we had doj requests for information and we were prioritizing that. the we did give the doj request precedence, and we told both houses that. the august request we replied to fully. separately doh got a doj letter signed by jeffrey clark, the attorney in october are which we learned about from the "new york post." we didn't even get the letter. "the post" called and told us about a letter, and that request of information on an investigation on private nursing homes, and we have been voluntarily producing information for that on a rolling basis, as recently as january 8th as offered by doj, the rolling basis production. the second, we paused the state legislature's request. we paused the state legislature's request. the we voluntarily complied with the doj request for information, two very different things. the new york state doh has always fully and publicly reported all covid deaths in nursing homes and hospitals. they have always been fully reported. nursing homes had the most vulnerable population. we know that. the nationwide 36% of the deaths are in nursing homes. you know what percent of the population are people in nursing homes, 1%, 1% had 36% of the deaths. new york is 34 in nursing home deaths as a percentage of total deaths, 34 out of 50 states. new york is one of only seven states that counts what's called presumed fatalities in nursing homes, where the nursing home presumed the cause of death was covid. to give you an example, new york state, 13,000 hearsing noam rehated deaths. that's 30% of total deaths. pennsylvania had 11,900. that's 52% of their total deaths were in nursing homes. florida, 34% of total deaths in nursing homes. massachusetts, 54% of total deaths. if you look at the entire country and you look at the percentage of deaths in nursing homes, new york is number 34. you have some states that up to 73% of the people who died died in nursing homes. covid preys on senior citizens, older people, weaker people. we've always known that. that is a fact. now, there is much distortion around what's called department of health memo on march 25th, and i want to make sure that we get the facts on this. on march 13th federal center for medicaid and medicaid services what they call cms and on march 23rd the centers for disease control, dcdc put out guidance sending people from hospitals back to nursing homes. new york state doh followed that guidance. 12 other states at least followed that guidance. the cdc cmosd reasoning at that time, residents who were leaving the hospitals were not likely to be contagious at that time the viral load is so low that you're not contagious and they were going to be what's called cohorded, cared for in anywherias that are separate for people under the right precautions. patients, particularly senior citizens should not remain in hospitals longer than necessary because they can get a secondary infection. that's true all across the board. especially with seniors. they try to get the procedures done and try to get people out of the hospital before they can come up with a secondary infection that's problematic. the patients were not sent to nursing homes. the nursing home had to agree that they could care for this person. that is had a matter of law. they cannot accept a patient who they are not prepared to care for properly, staff, ppe, ability to cohort. that is in the law. if they don't do that, they violate the law. the at the time, remember what was going on in march. the experts were projecting that our problem and our critical need was hospital capacity. we sat here every day with the hospitalization chart. we were looking at up to 140,000 people hospitalized. we have less than 50,000 hospital beds. the that is the calamity. remember, march 25th, that's right when the new york city health and hospitals, elmhurst hospital collapsed and we're watching tv and seeing italy with hospital capacity issue and china where they were building thousands of new hospita

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