Transcripts For CNN New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Be

Transcripts For CNN New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Berman 20240711

The resolution is adopted. I was allowed to believe things that werent true and i would ask questions about them and that is absolutely what i regret. What she said was before she was a member of congress. Its unprecedented what the democrats have done here. There should be a very, very high bar from removing somebody from committee, but this was not a hard call. Weve requested the president s testimony. Apparently he is refusing. They should issue a subpoena for the president. Hell go to court. Hell tie that up in knots. In his four years in office, donald trump never once testified under oath. And i think theyre showing that donald trump is not willing to back up his bluster. Announcer this is new day with Alisyn Camerota and john berman. We want to welcome our viewers in the United States and all around the world. This is new day, friday, february 5th, 6 00 here in new york. Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene has been stripped of her committee assignments. On thursday night, she was rebuked for peddling dangerous Conspiracy Theories. But the overwhelming majority of House Republicans voted not to remove her. 199 republicans were apparently just fine with her extremist, violent rhetoric that she has never apologized for. Only 11 republicans sided with the democrats to remove her. Just a reminder, greene questioned the 9 11 attacks, she harassed a School Shooting survivor, she spread antisemitic conspiracies, and she supported nancy pelosi, barack obama, and Hillary Clinton being assassinated. Finally on thursday, greene admitted that qanon conspiracies are, quote, lies. But she made the argument that somehow her mind was controlled and she was made to believe these things. Quote, allowed to believe things that were not true. Allowed to believe things that werent true. Thats a master class in deflection. What even is that . I was allowed to drive 115 miles per hour. I was allowed to break and enter into your house and steal all your stuff. I was allowed to lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie. Shame on everyone but me for that. I cant believe you all let me do that. Why did you let me peddle the idea of jewish space lasers . Meanwhile, some major maneuvering before the former president s Impeachment Trial. In a surprise move, House Managers asked him to testify. He refused. And this morning, there are a number of new questions about whether they will issue a subpoena for him and what they plan to do about other witnesses. It is just days before this trial begins and there is so much we do not know about how it will proceed. More on that shortly. First, Marjorie Taylor greene, a member without a committee, but with a party. Lauren fox joins us live from capitol hill. Lauren . Good morning, john. Thats right. An historic vote yesterday in the house of representatives. Democrats taking this unprecedented step of holding a vote in order to strip Marjorie Taylor greene from her two committee assignments. Now, this was a moment where greene went down to the floor and tried to plead her case. She denounced some of her past comments, but she didnt really apologize. On capitol hill, a strong statement from House Democrats this morning. Voting to remove freshman congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene from the education and labor and budget committees. The Line In The Sand has to be the promotion and elevation of violence directed at your colleagues or other americans. Reporter the decision after greenes lastminute efforts to save her assignments. I never said any of these things, since i have been elected for congress. These were words of the past. Reporter speaking for over ten minutes, attempting to walk back hateful comments and Conspiracy Theories she promoted before running for office. Theres never any evidence shown for a plane in the pentagon. I also want to tell you 9 11 absolutely happened. You see, School Shootings are absolutely real. Reporter the Georgia Lawmaker also making this claim about her belief in qanon. In 2018, when i started finding misinformation, lies, things that were not true in these qanon posts, i stopped believing it. Reporter but in december, after being elected, greene defended qanon supporters in an interview with cnn. I dont think theres anything wrong with people looking up information and not believing things in the news like the russian collusion conspiracy lie. Reporter House Majority leader steny hoyer using a giant picture of a Facebook Post, with greene holding an ar15 next to members of the socalled squad. I have heard too much of process and not enough about accountability. No member ought to be permitted to engage in the kind of behavior that representative greene has and face zero consequences. Reporter following hours of debate on the house floor so whos next . Who will the cancel Culture Attack next . Reporter Conspiracy Theories and hate are malignant. They do not fade away. We must stand up to them and say enough. Reporter 11 House Republicans joined democrats in voting to remove greene from her committees. Most, like House Minority leader Kevin Mccarthy, deciding against punishing their colleague. This partisan power grab is not only cynical, its hypocritical. Reporter the house vote, just one day after mccarthy and the house gop declined to take action against greene in a private meeting with party members. I wished theyd come to the right conclusion, though. Which is that they need to stop enabling and repeating lies. Reporter on thursday morning, House Speaker nancy pelosi saying shes not concerned about the precedent democrats may be setting for wanting to remove a sitting republican member from her assignments. If any of our members threaten the safety of other members, we would be the first ones to take them off of a committee. Thats it. Reporter and some Breaking News from the u. S. Senate. Just minutes ago, the senate breaking a tie, a 50 50 tie by Vice President Kamala Harris, passing narrow Budget Resolution. This essentially unlocks their ability to start writing their covid relief bill and pass it with just 51 votes. A long road ahead. And we should note that this vote came after 15 straight hours of amendment votes. I saw senators leaving in the rain. Theyre absolutely exhausted after that marathon budget v vote voteorama. Yes, the voteoa arama la all night. All right. Joining us now, cnn political analyst, margaret talev, the managing editor of axios. And charlie dent, hes the Executive Director of the Aspen Institute congressional program. Great to see both of you guys. Charlie, remember when republicans used to say they believed in personal responsibility . You know, Marjorie Taylor greene yesterday in her explanation, i guess, she took no personal responsibility. She didnt apologize. She tried to suggest that somehow she doesnt have free will. I guess somethings controlling her mind. Here is what she said. I was allowed to believe things that werent true and i would ask questions about them and talk about them. And that is absolutely what i regret. Because if it werent for the Facebook Post and comments that i liked in 2018, i wouldnt be standing here today and you couldnt point a finger and accuse me of anything wrong. So whos controlling her . The almighty q . I mean, i didnt understand this this is what passes for an explanation or an apology nowadays . Well, alisyn, this is a disgrace. And you know, i was chairman of the Ethics Committee and i was responsible for enforcing standards of conduct. When members brought discredit upon the house, they could be sanctioned. In this case, when a member becomes such an embarrassment and such a distraction, and weve had many of these cases. I can remember about 11 resignations. Usually a member feels shame and they end up resigning on their own or the leadership forces them to resign. Thats how these are usually dealt with. Republicans should have never allowed themselves to be put in this predicament. You know, they should not have they should not have allowed the democrats to do to them do to Marjorie Taylor greene what they should have done themselves. They should have simply taken on this challenge and just removed her from the committees, kicked her out of the conference, and we wouldnt have set a precedent, and by the way, good luck arguing process and precedent if youre a member of congress defending your vote to allow her to stay on her committees. Its not going to work. Democrats are going to tag republicans with her. Now they have a recorded vote on the record, defending her. Theyre going to call the extremists and theyre Marjorie Taylor greene republican. Its just a huge error on the part of republicans. Margaret, one of the things that interests me is what happens now Going Forward. And our friend, jeff zeleny yesterday said something that really stuck with me, is that Kevin Mccarthy now owns Marjorie Taylor greene. Kevin mccarthy has now bought into this completely. And if she does anything i mean, if one more post comes out from her post november 3rd not only that it wasnt a lie about Disavowing Qanon and all this stuff, but thats on him. Hes got this completely now. And im not sure i would want to be the one holding the debt for Marjorie Taylor greene. Yeah, well, good morning, john. I think, you know, for the republican leader, for Kevin Mccarthy, this has just been such a quick reversal of fortunes in the number of weeks. We were writing only a few weeks ago how he was trying to, you know, put the Republican Coalition back in order to win and become House Speaker in the next midterms. And now you see, you know, what underlies all of this is this huge Leadership Contest Pressure on him from two sides. Steve scalise on one side, liz cheney on the other side. And whats the other song . Its not donna summer, stuck in the middle with you. This is the position he found himself in. But now youre right. This is this vote, this house vote with the democrats took place because he wouldnt take the action himself internally with his caucus. I cant tell you how many republicans in the house are tremendously relieved that she is off of those two important questions. And is not going to be a spokesperson for the committee, but still a member of congress. There are 11 republicans who voted with the democrats. Look at where theyre from. These are in some cases republicans who voted from the impeachment of donald trump or just swing district republicans. These are also republicans from places like new york and new jersey and florida that were at the epicenter of 9 11 or the parkland shooting. These major, undeniable american tragedies that in her, not that long ago past, she really questioned the validity of or scoffed at or went after or made fun of victims in a way that grossly offended the voters in those states. So this is a real problem. And she is Kevin Mccarthys problem now. Well have one of those victims or survivors s s comin in the program. David hogg, who she chased after and harassed, obviously, a survivor of the parkland School Shooting. We just put up the faces and names of the 11 who voted to remove her, charlie. Josh Kinzinger Adam Kinzinger predicted ten, he got one more than he predicted. But nowhere near the number of republicans who voted to remove liz cheney from leadership. There were 61 of those. And so Going Forward, what are we to expect . What will we see from the Republican Party . What should we brace for, now that theyve really drawn this Line In The Sand of who they are and who they support . Well, the partys in a terrible place. Its in a deep, dark place, actually. And i think youre going to see a rise or a real faction at some point within the party. Clearly, Adam Kinzinger is leading it. But theres going to be some pushback against these forces that have embraced trumpism and trump to such a degree, this cultive personality that manifests itself in the form of Marjorie Taylor greene today. And i think theres going to be a fight. And if that faction i just talked about doesnt prevail, i can see an ultimate fracture within the party, where some centerright voters say, enough. I cant stay here any longer. This is just too many bridges, too far. So were in a hell of a bind. And poor liz cheney. By the way, the good news on the liz cheney thing is, these guys said they had 125 votes to take her out of leadership. Well, you know what . Liz cheney, she called their bluff. She said, okay, lets have a vote. And you know what, they had 60. So she really smoked them. I think this is a bigger victory than people realize. She put them down. They blustered, they said they were going to take her out and she beat them by a 2to1 margin. So shes striking back. It was a secret vote. The celebration could be a little bit more boisterous if people could stand behind their votes and not be so afraid of that wing of the party. Charlie dent, margaret talev, thank you both very much. Dont go far. Much more to discuss. So President Trump is refusing to testify in his second Impeachment Trial next week. Will he be subpoenaed . Is that a good idea . Do they need him . What about other witnesses . We have all the latest reporting on it, next. And yet, one in fon may still face hunger. So, subaru and our retailers are doing it again, donating an additional 100 million meals to help those in need. Love. 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I never believed that he would do it, but its an interesting question. Why do you think they made it . Whats your big takeaway . John, i think what theyre trying to do here is play hardball. I think theyre trying to put donald trump to his proof, to his claims, to his denials and say, okay, you want to make wild claims about the election. You want to deny responsibility for what you did . Come on in here and tell us about it. The move now that donald trump said, i respectfully decline your invitation to come in and testify. If theyre really playing hardball here, the tactical move is to issue a subpoena. Because what that does is it puts donald trump in a tough position, where hes only got three options. One, he can comply. He can come and testify. No lawyer will let him do that. Number two, he can try to fight it in the courts, thats going to cause delay, but hes going to lose and he might get the one rule he doesnt want, that this is a constitutional process. And three, he can take the fifth. We know he doesnt want to take the fifth.

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