state in the u.s. capitol. we haven't seen anything like this since 1998. officer sicknick, his family had him cremated. his remains are on the table next to a flag commemorating his service. his family is there. >> it's a good thing, chris, we haven't seen anything like this since and we shouldn't be watching it now. as i was listening to you on the way here, hearing an officer die in the line of duty because of an insurrection on capitol hill was just mind boggling to even fathom. members of the law enforcement community were supposed to start their visitation, and that's what they're doing now, 10:00 p.m. i imagine the president of the united states will be along soon. >> he arrived -- we watched the motorcade bringing him in from the white house. >> he's not in yet. he hasn't visited. >> no, he has not visited but we saw the motorcade. >> i have been receiving word from law enforcement, law enforcement with capitol police and surrounding police departments, and they are actually happy that we are carrying this. it is an honor to them we pay tribute to the fallen officer. some of those officers were fighting for their lives on january 6th, and we're in dange of losing their lives if they had not exhibited such a heroic effort. and they did save lives inside that capitol as well. members of the senate, members of congress, and i think you pointed this out earlier, chris -- this is the scene of the crime where he is laying in honor right now. the scene of the crime where there will be voting on impeachment for the president. it's surreal. to think that we are actually watching this happen in our country. at this moment, as we president's arrival. >> yep, and as soon as he comes up, obviously, we'll pay strict attention to it. we always say, don, we're living in historic times, and here's another never before -- not since 1812 has anyone dared try to come into the capitol, but never before have i seen something where the same men and women who were being protected by this man who gave his life, voted to advance a lie that instigated the entire insurrection immediately there after. we just had the congressional leadership come up and pay homage. i hope they remember what they're holding so dear and solemn when they go back to their caucus, because we are not living the truth of january 6th. >> we'll talk about that but i want to focus on brian sicknick and his family. his famry released a statement thanking congressional leadership for bestowing this on ignore on the fallen american hero. and he is a hero and that is an honor. he is deserving of it. we have to remember the other officers as well. there was one officer who suffered a heart attack and brain injuries. he was fighting for his life and he heard people say, take his gun. he believed at that moment that they were going to kill him unless he started to bargain with them and say he had a family, hoping that would stop them from doing the worst. apparently in that moment it did work, and he said about those people that saved them, thank you, but i'm wishing you had not within here in the first place. but i think it's -- tonight, yes, the senate and the congress should be doing their jobs and thinking about what they're going to do and what they should be doing, but this is an honor to the people you see there, the men and women in uniform all over this country, but especially those who are in the washington, d.c. area. who fought so valiantly on that day to protect not only the capitol but protect the people who are inside and who continue to do it every single day. again, the president of the united states joe biden, his motorcade arrived about 9:56 at the capitol and we're awaiting him to enter the rotunda and pay his respects to officer brian sicknick. >> if it's what i understand, we should note the move by the president. he wants the officers to go first. and be with one of their own and give them that position of priority, because they were there first protecting. and any one of these men and women who were there that day could be receiving the salutes instead of giving them, and that is a very poignant reminder sophom. so it's good they get to go first. you have to honor the officer but you also have to learn why he died by covering it. i've covered men and women and watched them give their lives to this country at service home and abroad. they want to make sure a lesson is learn in the honoring their own. >> as we listen to, this keep your eye on the door to the left a your screen at the top right under the capitol hill and the time stamp here, and that's where the president will be entering. again, members of law enforcement are now entering and paying their respects. and, you know, we don't have control of this camera. this is a camera to get closeups of who is there. i want to you think about, as we wait for the arrival of the president, watching at this particular place, right, that went through an insurrection, we went through impeachment, right? they're walking the article of impeachment over. we have had an inauguration. and now we have a fallen officer laying in honor at the capitol. these are, as you say, as we always say, these are the times that people write about for the history books, and we are living in that time right now . >> it's an interesting ceremony. they encircumsle the officer an then they come up in a line and salute, and that is a powerful embrace of one of their own, surrounding them in their sense of honor and duty. they're coming in detachment of detachment of different aspects of capitol police and law enforcement. the president is on premises. we're waiting for him to come and be our collective conscious in this solemn moment. >> lying in state is -- this isn't lying in state, this is lying in honor, but an honor like this is typically reserved for leaders of american government. but two u.s. capitol police officers were shot to death in 1998 and, they were the first -- to lie in honor at the capitol. it is a rare occurrence. i think everyone will agree with me, let's hope it never happens again, that we lose officers in the line of duty in any way, but especially in an insurrection of people trying to overthrow the democracy we so honor, live, and believe in. an attack on our democracy is the worst of the worst. it is an attack on our freedom and our liberty and our persons. it is a personal attack on everything that we believe in, and this officer, this hero died trying to protect that. and i shouldn't say trying to -- they did protect them. because as we know, even after this insurrection happened, you and i witnessed, live on television, we were together, members of the senate and congress going back into the halls where they were hiding just hours before had feared for their lives, and they went and they completed their constitutional duty of certifying the electoral votes, certifying the election that happened on november 7, 2020, even though hours before they were in danger of their lives inside these very halls. >> it was very honorable they went back. even at a time when i don't know how you could be completely certain there was no remaining danger. what had been left behind, all the god forbids it takes time to check and double cheque but it must also be remembered and what january 6th was about is that after we saw an angry mob that represented the worst of us try to break in and stop the democratic proceedings, you had 140 or so members of one party stand up to echo the lie that had brought the insurrection in the first place. >> right on. cnn's dana bash joins us now from washington. dana? congressional correspondent for a number of years. you covered this. this is your beat. watching this all unfold. you're there in washington. i want the hear your thoughts on what's happening now and the emotion that has -- that has -- the emotion that people are feeling in washington, d.c. right now especially as it relates to these events. >> heavy. very heavy. you know, the people who walk the capitol campus every day, and i was one of them for a couple of decades, you get to know these officer, separately by face if not by name, and you come to rely on them as a protector and a friendly face. and, you know, officer sicknick is somebody who was one of those. and everything changed for all of these officers, for everybody in that building in that day. and now because he gave the ultimate sacrifice in trying to protect the people in that building -- never mind the edifice, he is now lying in honor, and he's only the fifth person in american history to do so. he's in the company of rosa parks and he is in the company of reverend billy graham. and as you mentioned earlier, don, two officers who similarly gave their lives to protection the capital back in 1998, officer jacob chestnut and detective john gibson. and so this is an important moment in history, and it is a solemn moment, and a reminder of just how rare it is to be seeing what we're seeing. >> dana, you covered the -- not only the people, but the events inside of this building, as i said, you covered them so well for quite some time. let's think about it this way -- he is returning to the very building that he protected for over a decade, where we received those life threatening injuries protecting the legislatiive branch, right? i should say fatal injuries. for the last time he's returning to the place he served. that's powerful to think about. >> absolutely. it's incredibly powerful to think about, and it's powerful to watch. you could feel it. and as we discussed what we're seeing, you can -- the solemnity in there it is really palpable. i have been in that rotunda when we have had people who were elected officials lying in state in a formal way, and you can feel it. but even more so for somebody who was not a household name was not a president of the united states or a united states senator. but somebody who was literally in the line of duty. and gave his life in order to protect, and not just to protect from so many of the threats that we think about when we walk those halls, and i certainly did after 9/11, for example, from international forces, but from within. from people inside the united states, american citizens. storming the capitol while members of congress were doing their constitutional duty in order to certify the electoral college, and these people were doing so in the name of the president of the united states, forging ahead based on lies he continued to tell and those who are he is supporters did as well. and that is what makes this even more heart wrenching that that is the reason why we're watching this solemn moment. >> you know, chris had been conversing with our colleague josh campbell, who's a former fbi agent. he said to me, there's no job in washington like a capitol police officer. the job is to protect the major target, filled with giant egos, as we know. yet it's also supposed to be people's house, welcoming in normal time people to see their representatives. i think the people want to people's house to get back to that. because we have gone so far astray, especially since january 6th. this is a reminder of what's at stake that we're watching on our screens right now, chris. >> we are. and we're seeing the best of us right now. the men and women who took an oath to defend us, to protect, to serve, and they did just that at a time this country needed it most. and i don't think it can be overstated, and i think that this is the right thing to be done for officer sicknick and the right thing to be done for this country at the right time. you could argue it took too long. almost a month later. for us to start recognizing the gravity of this moment as a day that should and must live in infamy. yet we've never seen anything like it before. you said, don, hopefully we'll never see anything like it again. that is only had inheritance of people who didn't learn from a mistake, and i have no security many that moment right now. thing hs have not gotten better since january 6th. if we could just get back to the people's business and how much progress can be made, how much productivity can be made instead of just how much anger and fomenting of different interests, you have to believe that we'll get the a better police, and that's what makes someone like an adam kinzinger such an intriguing figure right now, a senator like joe manchin an intriguing figure right now. people going against the inclinations of their own for what they think is right. >> chris mentioned this earlier, dana, and i want to know your thoughts, because you covered this -- joe biden as four children from two marriages. his first born daughter naomi die in the 1972. it was a car accident. with her mother. and then, you know, his son beau biden died in 2015. talk about someone who knows empathy, who knows grief. that is this president and it's in exact contrast of the last presid president. but joe biden knows grief, knows empathy. i think chris called him the consoler. hopefully he can be the consoler in chief in the coming hours in the coming days. >> absolutely. and he will be. we saw him do that in his role as the democratic candidate throughout the summer when he -- during the riots, when he had moments he could be that person. we saw him at cnn town halls. >> there's the president, dana, and the first lady arriving. i think we should just listen and let them pay their respects. president joe biden and the first lady jill biden paying their respects to officer brian sicknick who lost his life in the line of duty on january 6th protecting the capital and the lives inside of that capitol. dana bash here with me. chris cuomo with me as well. chris, dana was talking about the empathy of joe biden before the president came in to the capital them president also a very religious man. walking up to the table, putting his right hand on the table, and then over his heart. and then going over to look at some of the flowers and really shaking his head. and a collective sigh, i'm sure, across the country. and grief. a moment that made me tear up. i cannot believe where we are, but hopefully we'll get beyond it to a better place. >> speaking to the president about his faith, he keeps it very simple. obviously he's a chris man and a catholic, but his faith in these matters comes down to two words -- love mercy. and it is a very ample instruction. no matter what you believe right now, we are honoring officer sicknick because of his dedication to something bigger than himself. and it is the highest ideal in our society and democracy, and there's so much pain in the capitol right now. there's so much pain in his family. there's so much pain in his brothers and sisters who did the job, who there but before the grace go they. and the shame of it is if we don't learn the lesson and don't honor the sacrifice by getting to a better place -- and we have not done that since january 6th. and so for those who want to honor the officer, good, you should. but for those in power who say they want to do the same, we hodge know what they show in their intentions and actions there after. >> chris, thank you for helping us through this. i thug it was important that you had -- because you had been doing such a fantastic job of coffering this before, ands i told you i was getting thank yous from members of law enforcement we were covering this on cnn and you happened to be on the air guiding us through this. i know you got to go. you're going the leave me in the hands of dana bash. thanks so much, chris. i love you. >> i love you. and sharing history with you and dana. >> dana bash, 36 years joe biden has been walking these halls with capitol police. >> that's what i was thinking about, because i met then-senator biden when he was in those hallowed halls day after day. and he was for three and a half decades during some of his toughest times, during some of his best times, he had officers like these, like officer sicknick, there to protect him just like those officers were protecting the other 99 senators he served with. and so you were talking about empathy and about the fact that he -- because he's had so much pain in his own life, and for other reasons, he's just inherently so empathetic. but this is another level and another layer of that because these capitol police officers were a part of his life for so many years as a united states senator. >> yeah. dana, again, i want to remind our viewers, we're watching laying in honor here now, officer brian d. sicknick who was a member of the capitol police who lost his life in the line of duty. we saw the president and first lady pay their respects just moments ago, and now you have members of the law enforcement community doing the same thing. they were doing it before the president and first lady arrived and they're doing it now as well. i want to get -- dana stand by. i want to get to cnn's kaitlan collins. she joins us now by phone. kaitlan is our chief white house correspondent. kaitlan, this was very important for the president of the united states to be here and to do this. we know his respect for law enforcement. we know how he has dealt with grief after the loss of two children. >> that's right, and, you know, funnily enough, tomorrow's what would have been his son beau b biden's birthday. i heard can you were having earlier about the grief the president knows all too well. he actually had not known exactly he was coming up to capitol hill tonight with the first lady. we had an idea, but this wasn't something on his schedule until he left the white house to head up and pay respect. but we know in the day following the riot on capitol hill, president biden called the officer's family. that was when the white house delayed lowering the flag. when president trump was still in office. the vice president, mike pence later called and president biden called the family and spoke with them as well. we had an idea that this was something that could be happening. then you saw of course other leaders that were also there, chuck schumer, nancy pelosi standing on the steps as they were bringing in his remains toly lie in honor. it is worth noting this is a rare distinction. you see someone get. rare circumstances that led to this event now happening late in the evening on capitol hill in wash washington. so white house officials had been planning this and had not -- given the security of a presidential visit somewhere. but the visit was a priority after he had spoken with his family in the days after he was killed. >> kaitlan, thank you very much. kaitlan, we appreciate your reporting. dana bash, thank you for joining me on this historic evening. and to cover the death and the honor of brian sicknick, the officer who lost his life in the line of duty on that insurrection on capitol hill. so, we will continue to follow this news story. again, the president of the united states, the first lady, just paid honor to this fallen officer, and these police officers will be doing this throughout the evening, and we will cover it here on cnn. meantime, there's a lot going on, and we need to talk about the covid crisis in this country. because more than 32 million vaccines have been administered so far. what does that mean for you at home? when will things get back to norm. and what will it even look like? we're going to have a very special guest up next. dr. auch off joins me next. your next celebrity cruise is ready for takeoff, with our biggest air offer ever. save on every flight, from every gateway, on every sailing. and, with drinks, wi-fi and tips always included for everyone, you have everything you need for an unforgettable vacation. celebrity cruises. sail beyond. 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>> well, that means that much easier access to availability to people in a setting they're used to. two or three things are going to be initiated -- shipping doses directly to pharmacies so people can go to pharmacies easily the way you would get anything in a pharmacy. the next is to open up community vaccine centers. and to do so, particularly aiming at areas where there is underrepresentation of facilities to get people such as minorities, brown and black people, who don't have to ease of getting to other facilities and even using mobile units to get to not easily accessible areas. so "a," you want to make it easy to get vaccines done. pharmacies, good way to do it. but also you want to have equity in it, don. you want to make sure we don't only have some demographic groups that have availability and accessibility to the vaccines. >> let's talk about how -- why this is taking so long. the need for the vaccine supply is dire. i know everyone is working really hard, but why is it taking so long to get more doses distributed, doctor? >> it's just a question of the production speed and capability of doing. as we get to march and april, the number of doses that are available are going to be greatly accelerated. when we went from december to january, there are very few relatively speaking, doses. and it was complicated by some logistic glitches in getting it into the arms of people. right now, the compelling thing is the supply does not meet the demand. so we've got to get more vaccine into people, and we've got make sure we use every possibility of getting doses out there. the good news is that there are other companies that are now coming in that are applying to the fda for emergency use authorization such as the recent data which was quite favorable for johnson & johnson. soon there will be novavax. so things are going to get progressively better. and what the president was talking about is to help up the capability of getting it into the arms of people as those new doses become available. >> so you said every possibility of getting it out there as much as possible. with that said, moderna's proposing increasing the number of doses per vial, doctor, by 50%. what do you think of that? >> that's a good idea. it's the same way as getting these dead space needles from the pfizer product, where if you stick it in there, you can get an extra six dose out of a five dose bottle. so right away you're talking 16% more than you would have had. if you can get more doses in there, it's interesting. seems trivial, but when you're talking about millions of doses that really does make a diff difference. so any little thing we can do to increase doses is value added. >> we have heard a lot from the experts like you and others about what's more susceptible, older people, people with comorbidities but there's a new study from the imperial college in london suggests younger as a results, ages 20 to 49 are the biggest spreader of the coronavirus. does that mean states should vaccinate younger americans more aggressively or sooner? does that change any strategy with the distribution of getting people vaccinated? >> no, you want to look at that, don, but the thing you want to be careful of is when you're talking about spreading it, it was the 20 to 49-year-olds. clearly we were suspecting that early on when we were getting the surges in our own country when the elderly individuals and those with underlying conditions had a risk of getting more severe disease. but when we were having those surges, which you reported on them very clearly on your program, that was driven a lot by younger people. so there's always the strategy that make uh-uh vaccinate the younger people, but you don't want to do it at the expense of having the older people with the conditions getting vaccinated. you don't want to deprive them because they're the ones who are going to end up in the hospital and have a higher rate of death. and that's what we don't want to cois neglect them. >> i want to talk to you about another study off the uk. it says people who have had covid-19 before are likely to have covid-19 in six months. 19% had antibodies for three months. 8% for six months. listen, i don't know exactly what that means. sounds good, but what's the takeaway there? >> the takeaway is you're protected if you have been infected and you have antibodies that last for a while. that's good if you're being protected against the same virus that initially protected you. one of the sobering things we're finding in south africa with these mutants, the variants, if you were infected with the original virus and one of the variants comes by, you don't have much protection at all. so although it's good news the report you just read out to me that you do have three to six months or more of antibody level which would be protective we have to keep an eye out on variants. because if they become dominant you're going to be faced again with another challenge. >> you joined us for one of our town halls on the color of covid. we've done a couple here. you do the town halls with us often with sanjay and ander zonk but i wanted to ask you about a study finding that 16% of black volunteers, doctor, had antibodies compared to 8.5% of white participants. what does that tell you? >> well, that tells me the sad reality, don, that brown and black people have a higher ind incidence of infection to begin with. and the data you haven't mentioned, they have much, must have more of a chance of a serious outcome because of the disproportionate factor of underlying conditions they have. unfortunately it's sad but true in our country where you have disparities of health that if you're a black or brown person you have a double whammy. you have a more likely chance of getting infected because the jobs you likely have would put you out into the community doing essential things that expose you to infection. once you get infected the likelihood of getting a serious outcome, because it's more likely you'll have hypertension, diabetes, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease obesity, and things like that. so it's really something we have to address. this outbreak sheds a big bright light on health disparities, which are things our society neglected for so long. we've really got address that and it has to do with the social determinants of health that brown and black people have very little power to move and to change. so if we're going to look forward after this outbreak, maybe a multidecade commitment to address those social determinants of health that put them in such a compromised position. >> i want to continue on with this conversation because what you're saying is fascinating, so if you could just stand by i would really appreciate it. because there are much fewer black people getting the vaccine across the country. history and misinformation, that's not helping. we're going to talk about that next. dr. anthony fauci. if you're getting ready for a special day, or you're looking to create one, spice things up at adoreme.com. they have bras and lingerie for every style and sizes up to 4x. perfectly fitted so you feel cute and confident. get on-trend bodysuits that flatter every curve. or romantic lacy babydolls, just because. go to adoreme.com. choose from hundreds of best-selling styles and get today's special valentine's day offer. sets start at just $24.95. that's 50% off with free shipping and exchanges. go to adoreme.com now. priceline works with top hotels, to save you up to 60%. these are all great. and when you get a big deal... ♪ ...you feel like a big deal. ♪ priceline. every trip is a big deal. we're back now with dr. anthony fauci. as the death toll from covid-19 nears 450,000 people, dr. fauci, more than 32 million doses have been administered. according to the cdc report. equity bli, people who have gotten the first dose are most likely to be female, nonhispanic white and 50 years old. how does that get fixed when we know latino and black americans are diagnose at three times the rate of white people in this country? >> the two things we need to address, don, we need to increase their accessibility to vaccines by getting out into the communities where they are, and for those who want to get vaccinated to make it easy for them. but the other thing we've got address is the issue of vaccine hesitancy, because brown and black people, particularly african-americans, have an understandable hesitancy that relates historically to decades ago before many of them were even born with the infamous tuskegee experiment which gets passed from generation to generation about not trusting the federal government's programs. i think the way we get beyond that hesitancy is to respect the reasons why they are hesitant and then get beyond that with them by explaining that the safeguards that have been put in place since then make it virtually impossible for those types of violations to occur in today's world. and then to go with them and explain to them why it's safe and effective and why it's important for them and their families and their community to get vaccinated. so it's a combination of reaching out to them and getting it to be easy for them to get vaccinated at the same time as we address the understandable hesitancy that they might have. >> i have this question on my list you almost answered verbatim in the order i was going ask you the question. i'm glad you said vaccine hesitancy, because that duh not mean people of color are anti-vaxxers. it's just a hesitancy because -- us a said, legitimately because of what's happened. >> right. >> minority americans are more likely to serve in essential worker roles. here in new york city, the mayor de blasio is calling on restaurant workers to be added to the group's current phase. which includes 60 plus, grocery workers and first responders. governor cuomo shot that down, but should that happen as restrictions are rolled back, doctor? >> the one thing i don't want to do is get into a battle between a mayor and a governor, but it is reasonable, just the same way as teachers. we really rant to get teachers in that essential mix of workers. you but particularly the people who are overrepresented by minority communities because they are the ones getting sick and dying more than others. if you look at the rate of hospitalizations per thousand people in the population, it's multifold difference between african-americans, latinx and whites. you can't run away from the data. and then it gets translated into more deaths, which are a couple fold more. so sickness, illness, hospitalization, and deaths. whatever we can do, don, to address that, to mitigate that, we should do. whether it's reaching out to them, getting them vaccinated quickly, we're all for that. >> i know that you're a concerned -- when will, your first concern is that health aspects, but there's also the economic aspect as well. they're intertwined. indoor dining will re-open in new york city at 25% starting valentine's day. is that still risky? is that a good idea? is that too risky? >> you know, hopefully by that time we're going to see -- we are seeing, don, a plateauing and a coming down in the number of infections per day. i think if that's done carefully with masking of the personnel, with making sure that if you do indoor dining you do it in a spaced way where you don't have people sitting right next to each other. also, although it's winter, good air flow and ventilation, you can accomplish that. in my own area where i live in washington, d.c., what you see is some of the restaurants which extended by putting a tent around but having good air flow. all kinds of creative things like that. we are very sensitive to the economic impact that adhering to are oblivious to the economic considers. not at all. we are very empathic towards that but we still have to maintain the public health measures if we get our arms around the outbreak. soy think that helping the owners of the restaurants and the owners of the enterprises that are getting impacted by the public health measures are something we are all very much in favor of. and that is what the relief packages are all about. >> you know what everyone wants to know. they want to know when we will get back though normal. once a person gets vaccinated, what they do anything differently? back to normal, when is thang go to happen? >> it's going to be a cohort effect. what i mean, you can't look at yourself in a vacuum. like i'm vaccinated, when can we get back to normal? normal is a societal thing. what you mean f we want society to get back to normal, you have to get 70% to 85% of the population vaccinated. because if you do that, not withstanding the variants that you have to address in a second, if you can get people protected and get an umbrella of herd immunity, the level of infection will go very, very low down in the community, and society. at that point, the entire community can start getting back to normal, and mainly doing things that each and every person would want 20 do. maybe not 100% back to normal but at least approaching normal. i any we do it right f we efficiently and effectively get people back to norm a.m., we can do that by the ekd of summer, beginning of fall. having said that, there is an absolute but in that. the but is, we have to address the varioants in. if the variants and the mutations come, it's going to change the vaccine. the best way to do that is get as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible. because viruses don't mutate if they don't replicate. if you level the level of dynamics low, we will not have an easy evolution into mutations. that is something that people really need to understand. the way you stop the mutations, get vaccinated and abide by public health measures. >> doctor, i'm up against the clock here. we always take viewer questions. is from a friend of mine who has diabetes. she want togs know when people with under lying health conditions can get vaccinated. >> when the vaccine comes your way, we are talking about the next level of people, 16 to 64 who have under lying conditions, they will be the next group that will be on the line, on the queue on getting vaccinated in. that should be quite soon. >> dr. anthony fauci, thank you for the work you do, and we hope you come back. be safe. >> thank you very much, don. good to be with you. next a closed door meeting on capitol hill. how do you solve a problem like marjorie taylor greene. republicans a the a cross roads. and in an emergency, they need a network that puts them first. that connects them to technology, to each other, and to other agencies. that's why at&t built firstnet with and for first responders the emergency response network authorized by congress. firstnet. because putting them first is our job. at jackson hewitt, we offer safe and easy ways to file with a skilled tax pro. securely drop off your documents, have them picked up, or upload them, and work with a tax pro online from home. safe and easy ways to file that work around you. kevin mccarthy meeting tonight behind closed doors with marjorie taylor greene on her racist con spearry theories but no decisions yet whether to strip her from her violent rhetoric. i want to bring in amanda carpenter. why are mccarthy and the party having such a hard time dealing can marjorie taylor greene? they have an easier with time attacking liz cheney for backing impreachment. what is going on here? >> i'm worried. i think the leaders in the party are having a hard time trying to figure out where to draw the line when it comes to con spearry driven lies. and i watched the first hour of the show and i was reflecting on the moving ceremony for officer sicknick. and i thought, oh, my god, don, this officer was killed because of political lies. and kevin mccarthy behind closed doors who doesn't fwheep to do with the poster girl of delusional lies. there is no question what she said. it was on videotape. it was a couple years ago. and it wasn't just crazy. it does cruel. it was heartless. she has no remorse. and now they still don't know what to do about it? i feel there is a big debate with what is happening in the republican party. it's dead. it's rotten. it's devoid of ideas. if the leaders like kevin mccarthy can't think of a better way to core a political base than to appeal to the trump, marjorie taylor greene qanon crowd. >> listen, you just made a point. kids who -- young people who make mistakes who have done things on social media, and said things they should not have said, they get harsher punishment than marjorie taylor greene. so far. so many of them are not -- a number of them are not allowed in colleges or they lose their jobs. that has not happened to marjorie taylor greene. one concern is punishing a member for doing things before, winning an election. that is according to two officials with direct knowledge of the meeting. should that make a difference? >> listen, there's things that people said, maybe they made a mistake. there's no remorse. is it the truther. the parkland false flag thing. that is really the most objectionable. and this is just an open-shut case. shut not be hard. they have a process. for some reason there is hesitation there. what is it? why is it takes so long? it's been hanging out for weeks. for months and months because kevin mccarty and the rest of the republican leadership knew what they where are getting into with marjorie taylor greene in the beginning. she had a primary. was a brain surgeon they were running against baa they

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