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wait, a minute? but what have you been doing for the last two hours? delegating? oh, good one. move your xfinity services without breaking a sweat. now that's simple, easy, awesome. xfinity makes moving easy. go online to transfer your services in about a minute. get started today. president biden turning up the heat on congress to pass his $1.9 trillion covid relief plan, saying we have to act now. there's no time for delay. he's hoping to pass a bill with bipartisan support, but if not, says it has to pass, quote, no ifs, ands, or buts. kevin mccarthy struggling to get the gop in order, a party in disarray. he is set to meet next week with congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, who is known for making incendiary comments. now cnn tonight has obtained screen shots from marjorie taylor greene's social media accounts. marjorie greene sees a q in the sky for an eric trump golf course tweet. marjorie taylor greene replies to a commenter on one of her twitter threads and calls george soros a nazi. that one is still up on twitter right now. and just so you can see what she is engaging with when she calls soros a nazi, here's a larger version of that graphic portraying him as a vampire going up in flames. both of those tweets are verified by cnn's k-file. two screen shots of two now removed facebook posts of greene's facebook page which cnn has not independently confirmed. one, a fake promo for the funeral of the late senator john mccain, a war hero who served his country in the senate for more than 30 years. and then there's this bigoted anti-muslim meme that shows graphic images of the 9/11 terror attack side by side with the image of congresswoman rashida tlaib being sworn into congress, and it says, thanks, michigan. we blurred the faces of the children in that photo to protect them from this kind of ugly bigotry. marjorie taylor greene's office did not respond to our request for comment. in a previous statement about other removed posts, taylor claimed many people have run her facebook page, saying, quote, over the teams i've had teams of people managed my pages. many posts have been liked. many posts have been shared. some did not represent my views. well, let's talk about all of this and more. cnn's white house correspondent john harwood and senior political analyst kirsten powers. hi. i mean this is -- there's no other way to put it. it's just -- it's the worst kind of human behavior possible, and the republican party is cosigning it, and therefore it is now them. john, president biden is trying to get republicans onboard with this covid relief deal, but how is he supposed to work with a party standing by the likes of marjorie taylor greene? >> well, he probably can't, and that's for reasons that go beyond the fact that there is some share of the republican caucus that is literally crazy. for a number of years, the republican party has positioned itself in opposition to the ways in which america evolving in the 21st century. hence, donald trump's throwback mantra was "make america great again." go back to the way it used to be. so they've driven themselves into this cul-de-sac that is increasingly disconnected from facts and evidence and reason. and by virtue of the people who give them money and the people who give them votes, they have to deny things or assert things that we know are not true, like tax cuts pay for themselves or climate change is a hoax. in that context, it is not easy to find many people who are still connected to real, genuine policy debates and willing to engage in them. and to the extent that there are those people, they usually lack the strength to stand up to the demands of party loyalty. so the democrats and joe biden are pursuing negotiations with a certain group of eight republican senators right now, but they're not counting on that, and they're proceeding at the same time to move with only democratic votes if that's what they need to because they know they can't count on republicans to support the package in any way near the scale and scope that they think is necessary. >> well, kirsten, where is the leadership in the republican party? you have list cheney. she's the number three house republican, taking rockets from matt gaetz and marjorie taylor greene running roughshod through the halls of congress. really? >> well, i mean, what we can take away from this is the fact that marjorie taylor greene is actually pretty representative of a lot of republican voters. if she wasn't, they wouldn't be treating her with such kid gloves. and so the reason they don't want to go against her is because they don't want to get the backlash from the voters. so what does that say about the state of the republican party that the republican leaders themselves are acknowledging that there are enough people who are republicans who share the views of this person who is a lunatic. i mean there's no other way to put it. i mean she believes in the craziest conspiracies that you can think up. i mean conspiracies that involve you believing that democrats are running, you know, a child sex trafficking ring and drinking the blood of children and then cutting faces off and wearing them as masks. i mean a person like this should not be in leadership. that's enough right there. then add in the fact that she has essentially endorsed violence against democratic members of congress, i mean there are real-life ramifications for these things. there are real-life ramifications for the things the republican leaders have tolerated, the kinds of beliefs that they have pushed with president trump where you had an attack on the capitol. there was a man who was arrested in d.c. who came here to put a bullet in nancy pelosi's head, to kill the mayor of d.c. and have the guns and the ammunition to do it. so these are really scary, serious issues, and the republican party has -- is 100% responsible for the fact that the people that they represent believe these things because they have refused to stand up against it when president trump was stoking it and when other republican leaders were stoking it. >> john, there are people who are trying to stand up -- at least one person, the former president george w. bush making it clear he supports liz cheney voting to impeach trump. are you hearing anything about this? >> well, george w. bush is trying in a nuanced way, not nuanced if you know that he's trying to stay out of politics, but nuanced from a distance for a regular person, to signal that he approves of what liz cheney did, and he wants the public to know about it. he's rereticent. he didn't stand up and say, for example, that he supported the impeachment of donald trump or he didn't say that he was going to vote for joe biden in the election. but he went to joe biden's inauguration and steps like this show -- are trying to show where he is. that's not likely to have a great effect because in this republican party at this moment, george w. bush is not particularly popular or revered, only by a very narrow segment of people. but that just goes to show you that he feels the need to stand up and say that and that so few other republican leaders are shows the weakness of the party leadership. this is a demonstration of a complete lack of inner strength and political strength by republican leaders because they don't believe that they can stand up against this lunacy without losing their own jobs. >> thank you both. i've got to get to two representatives to talk about this. i appreciate it. you guys have a good weekend. i want to bring in two democratic members of congress, barbara lee of california and dan kildee of michigan. i'm so glad you guys are here. i've been wanting to talk to you about this because you're right there. you're experiencing all of this. representative kildee, there's so much tension and rage in congress after this horrific attack. you say you're now having a hard time working with colleagues who voted to overturn this election even after the mob's behavior. what is that like? >> it's really difficult. and, in fact, it's not something i'm sure i'm going to be able to do because the question that keeps coming to my mind is what is the greater danger? is it a mob that can be put down by an army, or is it some of these cartoonish figures like marjorie taylor greene or matt gaetz, you know, mo brooks? but what i think represents a much bigger threat is the fact that two-thirds a party that was just recently in the majority of the house, the senate, and had the white house -- two-thirds of the members of the house of representatives, after that attack, went to the floor of the house and voted to overturn a democratic election that was decided by a wide margin. so when we talk about these threats -- and it is important, and i'm glad you are focusing on some of the outrageous behavior of some of these individuals because kevin mccarthy seems to at least tacitly endorse it. but the bigger threat that we face is that this party, the republican party, has lost its mind. if they had their way, if kevin mccarthy had had his way, if the majority had had their way, joe biden would not have been sworn in as president despite winning the election. they would have placed donald trump back into the white house, and they can't escape responsibility for taking such an undemocratic position. that's why i can't look at these people who voted that way in the eye with any kind of respect. >> representative lee, it's good to see you again. have you tried to talk to any of your republican colleagues, or are feelings just too raw right now? >> hi, don. i'm really happy to be with you this evening. listen, i'm furious, and it's very difficult because there are these members who some are bringing firearms to the floor. others completely accept the big lie. i serve on the appropriations committee, don, and i cherish that committee that funds all of our international efforts. and 14 members out of the appropriations committee, 14 out of 26 voted to reject the certification of joe biden as president. they accepted the big lie. and so they, in my respect, are co-conspirators with what happened on january 6th. they proved it by their vote as congressman kildee mentioned. and so we've got to figure out how to do this because it's dangerous first of all. of course you saw they did not wear masks, many of them, when we were in lockdown. you see what they have done since then. and so donald trump is the leader of this gang, and this was an attempted coup on january 6th, and the republicans, many of them -- in fact, most of them quite frankly need to be held responsible. and believe you me, there's no reconciliation without truth. >> what do you think, congressman kildee -- what if this had been -- let's just say that the people in that crowd would have been black or muslim. what do you think republicans would be doing now? >> well, first of all, if the crowd had been black or muslim, it would have been a disaster even greater than it was because we know what the instinct would have been for people in law enforcement. that would have been to open fire. but what they would have said, of course, is to decry this as some sort of what it was. i mean they would have called it what it was, an insurrection. of course it hasn't happened. even in the moments where we've had violence over the summer, it was violence being perpetrated by the united states military against peaceful protesters. but, you know, one of the things that i think it's important to point out is that this idea that republicans are responding to their base, first of all, that argument is pretty cynical, but it misses an important point. public opinion is not just some sort of chemically, naturally occurring phenomenon. it is shaped by leaders. and these republicans who are so spineless that they are unwilling to help shape public opinion around the truth but simply are responding to the lowest common denominator, which is the truth -- or the falsehood, i should say, the false truth that donald trump has been spinning out there. they have a responsibility to shape public opinion. it's not like these folks just naturally believe all this stuff. they believe it because these -- you know, these members of congress repeat this lie as if it's true when they know it's not. >> representative lee, your republican colleague dusty johnson of south dakota said the attack was, quote, jarring to witness. then adding, i am hopeful some of the anger and irritation will fade because clearly if we're going to get things done for this country, it's going to require democrats and republicans working together. that's the end of the quote. he did not vote to overturn the election, but i mean this was a hell of a lot more than jarring. how can anger fade if nobody in power is held accountable, especially considering what congressman kildee just said. they are actually putting the lies out there and somehow seem shocked now that their constituents are actually believing the lies. go on. >> yes. well, first of all, this was an attempted coup. we cannot allow this to happen in a democracy. we're really right on the brink of totalitarianism, okay? and these republicans can't just say, too bad it happened, but we've got to move on. again, we have to have this day of reckoning. we have to make sure the truth is told and then maybe we could work together to move forward. but i have to tell you, donald trump came to the white house on a white supremacist agenda. if you look at the history of what he has said, what he has promoted, his vile language, his inciting violence, how he responded to charlottesville, what he has said about people of color, and then what he -- what has fueled these white supremacist groups, which now have an entree into the house of representatives and the senate -- come on. this is a very dangerous moment, and you just can't slap someone on the hand and say, let's reconcile and move forward. we have to come to grips with the fact that these members of congress allowed this insurgency, this attempted coup. many were co-conspirators in that, and they cannot get away with it. they must be held accountable. >> ma'am, sir, thank you both. you guys be safe. really, i mean that. thank you so much. >> thank you, don. nice being with you. >> good to see you, barbara. even now, three weeks later, it's hard to believe the riot happened on the steps of the u.s. capitol. but we have more indisputable evidence tonight. devastating video from the body cam worn by metro d.c. police officer. you don't want to miss it. so tonight we have new shocking body cam video from the insurrection on capitol hill. the video shows rioters attacking d.c. police officers with weapons like batons and hockey sticks. a woman in the crowd trampled to death on the capitol steps. i've got to warn you you're about to see something that's very graphic and difficult to watch, but it is important to understand what happened that day. here it is. >> save her! >> move out! out! >> she's dead! >> please! she's dead. i need somebody! >> she's dead! [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> joining me now to discuss, cnn security correspondent josh campbell and john scott railton, senior researcher at the university of toronto. that is some disturbing stuff to watch. it's really unbelievable. josh, you first. what do we know about the men attacking police in this video? have they been charged? >> don, what we just saw, that video, that is now evidence. prosecutors are using that body camera footage in order to charge those who took part in that violent and deadly insurrection to include the case of one man in particular, a man named michael foy. this is a former marine from michigan. he was allegedly seen on that video wielding a hockey stick. prosecutors allege that he used that hockey stick to assault police officers. now, he's one of at least 21 veterans who have been charged for taking part in those riots. i think it's important to point out, don, that video that we just saw is one of kind of a new vantage point that we hadn't seen before. we saw some of the wider shots of the capitol. we saw some of the people taking selfies. this is what it was like to be a police officer there trying to protect that building, and we have to point out the hypocrisy because in that crowd were people waving the thin blue line flag of support of law enforcement. but what that video showed was this violent mob moving toward these officers, assaulting them, injuring them. one officer died. just a very violent incident as these officers tried to protect that building. >> as a former member of law enforcement, what do you think when you see that? of the fbi? >> it's sickening. it goes back to that hypocrisy. we know this was inspired by president donald trump, who spent much of his presidency conditioning he was pro-law enforcement. but again based on that video and the deaths we saw, the numerous injuries, we see that this was a violent day, an injurious day for law enforcement as they tried to secure the united states capitol. they were faced with this violent mob, doing the best that they could to try to push them back. but this was anything but pro-law enforcement. >> listen to this body cam video. i'll say it again, john, it's shocking. tell us why getting eyeballs on videos like this, this one in particular, is so important in helping get tips and information on these suspects. >> yeah, it's really shocking video as your colleague has said. and, you know, it's like when the blows aren't raining down, there is like a bloodthirsty undertow of hands reaching out, trying to pull those officers into the crowd. i've rarely seen video that scary. i mean what's interesting is as has been said, for weeks we've been looking at the backs of a lot of these people as they reach at officers, as they grab, but we haven't really seen their voices and for the most part we haven't seen their voices. that's now starting to change. this is one piece of body cam footage. there's going to be a lot more coming out, and it really kind of helps us understand both the perspective of law enforcement but also see these people in a different way and get a look at their faces, which is really important. >> josh, we also have new information tonight about the suspect who planted bombs, pipe bombs outside the democratic and republican national headquarters before the insurrection. what are you learning? >> yeah, that's right. new information and new imagery, don. let's take a look at this video. this was obtained by "the washington post." this allegedly shows the individual that planted the pipe bombs at the offices of the democratic party and the republican party. we see the person there moving. this was near the capitol. you can see him there with that hoodie on. what we learned from the fbi is that these devices were not planted on the day of the incident. they were actually planted the night before. one prevailing theory right now being that this was perhaps possibly to serve as a diversion away from law enforcement officers that were responding to the capitol to try to draw them away toward these devices. again, just kind of gets into that level of sophistication. it is worth noting that right now authorities don't appear to have any leads. we'll show you the picture here that the fbi has released of the suspect. again, the person that they believe put up this device and not a lot of details there. it's also worth noting that this is now the third time that authorities have raised the reward in this case. it's now at $100,000 for information leading to that person's arrest. the fbi appealing to the public that if you know who this person is, they want to hear from you, don. >> one more, josh. i understand you're learning about new conspiracy tharges relating to the attack on capitol hill. what is the latest 0en that? >> very quickly we're just learning today that the federal grand jury has indicted two members of the proud boys, this pro-trump far right movement. they have now been charged with conspiracy to interfere with officers, to engage in violence there at the capitol. this is important because this is the first conspiracy charge against the proud boys that we're seeing associated with the capitol riot. it's significant because there have been a number of individual charges but now authorities are laying out the case that at least on that day, there were people coordinating with each other trying to get into the building, don. >> the more we learn, we're seeing the insurrection was made up of groups with very different levels of organization and planning. how do investigators start separating the lone rioters from the more dangerous groups? >> well, i think at the beginning we were really focused on whether it was the shiny or the hairy ones, the people in the senate chamber who are very visible. i think what we're seeing with these conspiracy charges against the proud boys and against the oathkeepers is that these investigations are really deepening and moving way out into the groups that actually did organized work around the breaches of the capitol. so i'd encourage you if you're watching this to think there are going to be more violent people, individuals in that crowd that are going to be caught but keep your eyes on the prize. it's the groups that are really conspiring to do this thing. >> i can't take my eyes off of that video. and if you -- you know, if you have any doubt about what happened and who was responsible for it, take a look at this video. the many, many videos that are coming out from january 6th. thank you, gentlemen. i appreciate it. some states facing a backlash over easing coronavirus restrictions at a time when there are warnings about the spread of a highly contagious variant or variants. finish quantum with activeblu technology, cleans without pre-rinsing. switch to finish and skip the rinse to save water. want to brain better? 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>> no. no, no, no. >> then why are they doing it? >> you don't roast marshmallows while the forest is still on fire. so let's look at new york city. so the positivity rate in new york right now is 8.6%, which is actually slightly higher than the national average of 8.5%. it's about twice what it was a few months ago, and it's slowly drifting down. so the surge in new york is far from over. this is not the time. if you look at europe, europe is shut down because they understand that to defeat the virus, you have to shut down. you know, we should be supporting our businesses with federal funds to allow them to survive and to keep their businesses closed or at a very low level. this is not the time to widely open. we are not there yet. >> these variants could explode just one month from now. if by some magic that we could go back to february of 2020 and had to do it over, would you let everybody go about freely, or would you lock down for 15 days to stop the spread? >> oh, i would do a lot of things differently. i would lock down for two weeks to slow down the spread. i would have sent to every household an n95 mask months ago. we can still do that. masks that are much more effective against these more contagious variants. i would have gotten antigen testing out to every home in the united states so you can test at home. these tests will pick up the variants. these aren't affected by the variants. they should be in our homes now. there are a lot of things we can do. >> can do you this now, before the variants get out of control? >> we can do it now, absolutely. we can be testing for these. we can be isolating for them. we need better masks. the fact that, you know, we haven't widely distributed n95 masks through the community is mind-boggling. this is what we wear in the hospital to stay safe. this is what you should be wearing in the supermarkets to stay safe. >> what are you saying? they should be coming in the mail from the government or just made readily available to pick up at the cvs or the whatever pharmacy? >> yeah, all of the above. one of the great missed opportunities was in april when hhs and the postal service wanted to send half a billion masks -- >> i remember that. >> -- to every household. and the trump administration in basically a crime against humanity stopped that. they didn't like the look of that. but we can still do that. we can send more effective masks to every home. we can make them -- or we can make them widely available for pickup at post offices around the country. >> mm-hmm. >> more effective masks than the simple cloth, you know, single ply cloth masks that a lot of people wear. >> listen, you're right. i see people now, and they'll run out and say, oh, man, i fear got my mask, but i can get one the at the subway, or the doorman has masks down there. so why can't these masks be widely available to people to give out? so right on. >> they should be. >> thank you, doctor. have a good one. i'll see you soon. in the race to vaccinate america, a story about letting no dose go to waste, not even during a snowstorm in the middle of a rural oregon highway. in the middle of the chaos, the covid vaccine rollout and supply shortages, a vaccinating team in oregon got stuck in a snowstorm on a highway on tuesday. their doses were about to expire, so they set up an improvement tu clinic, knocking on car windows and vaccinating stranded drivers with the remaining supply, not wasting a single dose. so let's bring in leah swanson, the josephine county emergency preparedness coordinator, and michael weber, the county public health director. good evening. i can only imagine. hey, we want to give you an injection, a vaccine. get away from my car. but it was real. thank you for coming on. mike, you and your team were driving back from a mass vaccination clinic when you got stuck in the storm. you had six doses of the vaccine left that were set to expire. what happened? did you get any of the responses like i said? like, oh, right, get away from my car or no? tell me what happened. >> there was a couple folks who waved us along, and i wouldn't say everybody was thrilled. but not many were actually like that. most folks were skeptical at first. then they found it kind of funny. then they said, thanks, but no thanks. >> yeah. but there were a few who said yes, and i would have been among those going, absolutely. so, leah, you administered all six of the vaccine doses. were many of the people approached skeptical? did you find that they were skeptical at the offering? >> yeah. so this part of our county is more anti-vax than some other areas of our county, so there were definitely some individuals that were like, no, we're kind of hesitant to get the vaccine. we're going to wait and see what happens for a little while. we were surprised only one person even asked for i.d. everybody else that was excited about it was excited. >> listen, i know you didn't have an issue with the temperature. it was just the time that it was going to take because it looked like it was cold out there. mike, listen, i know it's rare, but a small number of people have had adverse reactions to these vaccines. but you had an ambulance on site too, right? >> not just an ambulance. we actually had several physicians along those line of cars with us too. so we -- when i first made the decision to go this route, i had both the ambulance, lead ambulance driver as well as the physician sign off on it. >> what about their second doses, leah? how and where will these folks be able to receive their second dose of vaccine? did you give them all the information they needed because i would imagine not all of them are from -- maybe they were, i don't know -- from the exact county where you administered them. they could have been from some far-off place. >> yeah. that was the one thing that we didn't have with us that we couldn't give them was the cdc vaccination card. so we got all of their information and were able to send them those cards, were able to call them and give any follow-up information. we are working on creating another mass vaccination event in our county, and they would be more than welcome to come to that event for their second round of vaccines. >> so, leah and mike, if you guys ever get stranded in new york somewhere, i will say yes to getting the vaccine. hey, thank you, guys. >> glad to hear it. >> thank you. >> we needed to smile, and you guys are great for doing what you do. thank you so much. be well, okay? and be safe. >> you too. thank you. a pro-trump twitter troll unmasked and identified. now he's facing charges for spreading disinformation during the 2016 election. when we started our business we were paying an arm and a leg for postage. i remember setting up shipstation. one or two clicks and everything was up and running. i was printing out labels and saving money. shipstation saves us so much time. it makes it really easy and seamless. pick an order, print everything you need, slap the label onto the box, and it's ready to go. our costs for shipping were cut in half. just like that. shipstation. the #1 choice of online sellers. go to shipstation.com/tv and get 2 months free. so the fbi moving this week to arrest an alt-right twitter troll accusing him of using social media to spread disinformation in the 2016 presidential election. cnn has the story. >> reporter: an anone prus pro-trump twitter troll unmasked. >> this was an attack on our democracy, and you could look at him as almost like a field commander in this long-standing assault on our democracy. >> reporter: federal prosecutors say douglas mackey, who used the alias ricky vaughn was arrested wednesday in west palm beach, florida. luke o'brien, a reporter from "the washington post," helped unmask mackey in 2014. >> douglas mackey seemed like a very average, normal, upper middle class kid who grew up in a small town in vermont and ran track in high school, and then he went to middlebury college where he also ran track for a year. he graduated from college in 2011, and then he moved to new york, and he took a job in the financial industry. at some point, he was working for an economic consulting firm. he was fired from his job, and then he reinvented himself as one of the worst white nationalist trolls on twitter during the 2016 election. >> reporter: according to charging documents, mackey is accused of conspiring to suppress votes and using social media to spread disinformation, telling african-american voters they could vote for hillary clinton by text. that same tweet specifically referenced during a 2017 senate judiciary subcommittee hearing on russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. minnesota's democratic senator amy klobuchar displayed a blown up image of the tweet from the fake account. >> contained misinformation, telling voters they could vote online, which of course wasn't true. in fact, here's one of them, targeted of course, telling people that they could just text "hillary" to that number, and that's how they vote. i just want people to understand what this is. efforts like this are actually criminal. they're illegal. >> reporter: a similar tweet targeted hispanic voters. bennie mow is the head of investigations at graphic ca, a company that an lies the spread of disinformation on social media. >> it's the kind of thing where particularly in a tight race, it can make a difference if it reaches enough people. >> reporter: prosecutors say nearly 5,000 people responded to the fraudulent text code allegedly distributed by mackey. >> if you conclude that all of those were people who were trying to vote and people who didn't actually go and vote this person, that's 4,900 votes that have just been suppressed. >> reporter: mackey's alleged co-conspirators are not named in the complaint, but twitter data shared by authorities suggests at least one of the apparent co-conspirators has been charged for their involvement in the january 6th insurrection. >> you can draw a through line from that to what happened. you had a lot of these people, trump supporters who had been sucking down propaganda and disinformation for years, spread by many of these same people attack our capitol. >> reporter: and, don, we've reached out to mackey a lawyers for comment. you know, a lot like the insurrectionist on january 6th, people who do this sort of stuff online think their actions can have no consequences and they can do all of this with impunity. but as we see with this potential prosecution, that may slowly be changing. >> donie, you noted the connection to the january 6th riots. what are you seeing online now with qanon followers? you told us they were confused after president biden's inauguration. >> reporter: yeah. some were confused. some are slowly seeing the light. but a lot of people still believe, right? even though, you know, according to qanon believers, they taught that biden would never be sworn in, that martial law would be declared and that trump would remain president. but some still believe, and you see how the republican party is acting right now. they're refusing to condemn marjorie taylor greene, who has embraced all these conspiracy theories. so you can see how that belief is going to live on. don. >> all right. d donie o'sullivan. thank you so much. i appreciate it. thank you for watching, everyone. our coverage continues. so you want to make the best burger ever? then make it! that means selling everything. and eating nothing but cheese till you find the perfect slice... even if everyone asks you... another burger truck? don't listen to them! that means cooking day and night until you get... 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