Transcripts For CNN New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Be

Transcripts For CNN New Day With Alisyn Camerota and John Berman 20240711

Parkland School Shooting. Oh, and shes also said that democrats should be executed. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she is very concerned about the ongoing threats to members of congress and she says now the enemy is coming from within the house of representatives. There are new developments this morning in the effectiveness of vaccines against new coronavirus strains. Earlier results from Drugmaker Novavax show it is 89 effective against the regular strain, but only 60 effective against the variant that we are seeing in south africa. That is worrying health officials. Whats more, people in the trial who had been previously infected with the first strain are getting infected again with the new strain. So this really has the potential to change some of the framing in the battle in this pandemic. The first cases of that strain were now found in the united states. That happened for the first time yesterday. It happened in individuals who had not traveled and have no connection to each other. This means there is already Community Spread of that variant. First, we start with our top story. Jake auchincloss, the first member of congress to call for Marjorie Taylor greene to resign or be expelled. We also have former congressman denver riggleman, a chief strategist for the Network Contagion strategist network. Congressman auchincloss, you were the first to really sound the alarm about Marjorie Taylor greene. You believe she should be expelled. Isnt the argument against that that thats for the voters to decide . Theyre the ones who put her there. If you dont understand that calling for violence against your political opponents is unacceptable in democracy, then you should not be representing one. Marjorie Taylor Greene fails that test, but i should not have been the first person to call for her expulsion. Leader mccarthy should have be beat, me to the punch instead of traveling to palm springs to kiss Donald Trumps ring. Marjorie Taylor Greene says that the enemy is within. Look, youre a marine, do you fear for your safety. Do you think that Marjorie Taylor greene wants to do you harm . I dont fear for my safety. And i think its important that we turn the temperature down in the House Chambers so we can have vigorous debate, as were meant to do. The truth remains, though, that Marjorie Taylor greene has called for the executions of president obama, nancy pelosi, hillary clinton, and she wants to bring a gun tonight house floor. It shouldnt be Speaker Pelosi who calls this out. The Republican Party should be taking carry of extremism within their own ranks. They should have the decency to be embarrassed and take action on it, as opposed to continuing to buy into this cult of trump. Congressman riggleman, they had their chance. They had their chance and they continue to have their chance to try to stop people like Marjorie Taylor greene from leading, from talking, from being able to chase a Parkland School shooting survivor down the street, heckling him. According to her opponent, so she was in this runoff race, as you know, in georgia, 14th district in august. Her opponent said that there is a pound of Oppo Research on her. Its not just the stuff that we can see publicly on her social media post that shes now s scrubbed, theres a mound of it. And so much so that liz cheney and Steve Scalise back then went to Kevin Mccarthy and said, we have a problem on our hands. They knew she was going to be a problem. And somebody who is this fundamentally poisonous, who would heckle a teenage School Shooting victim, thats not going away. But Kevin Mccarthy hasnt done anything as far as we can tell. You know, her opponent was a neurosurgeon, also. So i want to put that out there about john. And we have talked about this and i find it amazing. And what scarcees me, hes exacy right, it should have been the republican conference that jumped up and said this is completely unacceptable. My guess is she wont be expelled, but what really concerns me, she had an audience for those videos. We talk about the Oppo Research, people wanted to watch this. She thought people would be interested in the things that she was saying. When you think about space lasers are starting forest fires, you have an issue. And you have to start wondering. People keep calling her a firebrand. I dont know if firebrand is a synonym for unstable, but thats the issue that we have. We have videos that shes put out there that we can define as unstable. I think thats our concern and thats why nancy pelosi was pretty surly in the press conference when people who donate want to bring guns on the floor are so outlandish and ridiculous, basic Conspiracy Theories that were used, we have Marjorie Taylor greene putting out this type of tripe, we have people watching this. And thats the issue with disinformation. And its not just space lasers, congressman riggleman. Its jewish space lasers. She blames the rothchilds for building the jush ewish space lasers. Its the oldest, laziest antisemitic trope out there. It is. But the point is, its not a mystery. None of this is a mystery. She is who she has always been. Its the the problem the the people electing her. The problem is the people allowing her to spread this. Am i wrong . John and alisyn, she was seated on a committee. Education education how can she doing anything with children . Nothing. Thats the thing that gets me. I look at steve king, and what shes done is so much worse. You talk about the rothchild. Its also the baseline for qanon theory for harvesting babies. Same exact thing. Jewish blood label. And thats what were looking at. People knew they were getting. They knew the package this was wrapped in and theyre still seated on committees. I dont think shes going to be ex expelled. I commend the congressman for Going Forward and trying to do this. Its a noble thing to do, but its not going to happen with a twothirds vote in the house. And thats what we have right now. And i think thats what bothers me about disinformation. What bothers me is how many people have bought into this nonsense. Congressman, can democrats do anything without the support of republicans . Democrats want to work in a bipartisan fashion, both to governor and to remove the worst elements from congress. But the gop has ownership of this. And the gop knew what it was getting well before Marjorie Taylor greene, when it embraced donald trump in 2016. And that is really when a ticking time bomb began. And many gop leaders, including representative riggleman, who voted against the impeachment of donald trump, own this issue and they all need to take ownership of removing this faction of White Spreupremism and extremis. Go ahead, congressman. You know, i wasnt there to vote for impeachment or not impeachment and i would have voted for impeachment, as everybody knows. You know, based on my background and talking about qanon, as you know, for months. And that was the issue that i had, was that there has to be some braver there. You saw ten people that showed incredible bravery, especially with liz cheney, what shes going through right now. All of these individuals stood up and said, we have to get rid of this scourge of disinformation and there is culpability when you see a siege on the capitol on january 6th. And when you have Marjorie Taylor greene still spouting this nonsense, there has to come a time for accountability. And sadly, from what im seeing on the ground out here, john and alisyn. Im not seeing that accountability thats actually going to jump up and bite anybody. Theyre going to make gains in 2022 based on stop the steal messaging. Congressman auchincloss, theres another development which has to do with security around the capitol, which is the Capitol Police are now suggesting putting a fence and keeping the fence up around the u. S. Capitol. How do you feel about fencing in the u. S. Capitol . We shouldnt turn the home of our democracy into a fortress. Redont want the capitol to become a green zone that is unwelcoming and indeed even hostile to constituents and journalists. This should be open, safely opened to the public and representatives should govern with transparency and accountability. Im deeply concerned about a permanent Security Posture around the capitol that can keep people away. They deserve taxpayers and voters deserve to be able to ask k questions and access the capitol. I want to pick up what you were saying about liz cheyney, because Kevin Mccarthy had warned his members to cut the crap. And matt gaetz went to wyoming and held a significant rally against liz cheney. There were hundreds of people there for his rally against liz cheney. Do you think that she is going to survive this . Well, she did get almost 70 of the vote. But i think its going to be a fight. And if you have people like matt gaetz going down there and doing those type of things where hes rallying up the crowd like there, i think thats a real issue. And i was shaking my head while i was watching this. You probably were, too. We were in wyoming and you have this individual who looks like hes dressed as an extra from dead poets society, screaming about liz cheney in wyoming. And liz has done incredible things for that state. And watching this, donald trump jr. Called into that rally. And Kevin Mccarthy was with donald trump while this rally was happening. I dont know how honest kevin was being about those not speaking out against other members, when it looked like some kind of coordinated action in wyoming, with the dump about some kind of ridiculous survey that most of the voters were against liz. 500 people from a trumpspecific pac that were doing polling there. All of this sounds like an oppo dump that was rehearsed and coordinated, and all of this was done just to get at liz cheney for her vote for impeachment. So its pretty easy to see this when youve been intelligence. Matt gaetz has never seen a camera he didnt like, so never a surprise he would be doing that. Let me ask you a question about relief that millions of americans are talking about. You just talked about bipartisanship in a different setting. The White House Press secretary, jen psaki, was asked by our Kaitlan Collins yesterday, would President Biden sign a relief bill that didnt have republican votes . As you sit here today, do you think that he should commit to signing or not signing a bill that isnt bipartisan . I think thats a question for President Biden. But i can tell you from my seat, i think a Relief Package that has bipartisan support is going to be a better, stronger Relief Package. But were not going to wait on it. Because americans and Small Businesses and local governments are struggling right now and we h need to get something fast. And were now in a race between vaccines and variants. And we need the money to produce a Vaccine Supply fast enough and to get it into arms fast enough that we can outpace the variant. This is becoming a Matter Of Life And Death as well as a matter of livelihoods. And we just cant wait on the gop to come around to what is so clearly necessary. And were going to talk about that in one second. Gentlemen, thank you very much. Really great to get your perspectives. Thanks for having me. 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Doctor, im glad youre here, because its that gap in effectiveness between these vaccines between the strain weve seen and the strains were seeing in south africa. Its that gap that i know is of concern, and also the fact that people in that study who had already been infected with the first strain, getting infected again with this new variant. How does this reframe how you are thinking about the pandemic this morning . Yeah, no, it is pretty concerning, because what were seeing is reductions in the effectiveness of all of the vaccines tested so far against the South African Variant. So in some cases, its just looking at virusneutralizing antibodies, to the moderna or Pfizer Vaccine. Theres a significant reduction and same now with the novavax vaccine, where we actually have clinical data. I mean, look, theyre still partially protective, so i think well still see a potential benefit from these vaccines against the South African Variant, but were already anticipating and when i say we , were already looking at producing a second vaccine particularly against this new South African Variant, that would likely be used as a boost later on. So i think the message right now is to the American People especially, is, look, nothing changes in the immediate future. Were going to use all of our existing vaccines. Theyre still highly effective, but later on in the year or mab in 2022, we might have to look at a boost using a modified version of the vaccine thats specific for the South African Variant. We are just hearing from cdc director Rochelle Walensky about that 60 rate on the South African Variant, so lets listen to what

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