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Him, along with Contact Information about u. S. Senators and representatives. Amid all of this the House Speaker nancy pelosi now says efforts to address Security Concerns are being hampered because, quote, im quoting here now, the enemy is within the House Of Representatives. Referring to the words and actions of some republican members. Lets go to our cnn crime and justice correspondent vshimon prok prokupecz. Tell us about the moves tounbelg on at the u. S. Capitol. Reporter its clear, wolf, a lot is going to change at our nations capitol of the january 6th insurrection. One of the things thats being suggested by the Acting Police Chief is permanent fencing across the capitol. The capitol has been an open its been open for people to walk through and open field, a Sprawling Complex that people can get close to. Well, now the acting chief is recommending that that change. In a Press Release she said, in light of recent events i can say vast improvements to the physical infrastructure must be made to include permanent fencing. She then goes on to talk about also having backup units to respond in case of some kind of violence. Now, the mayor, Muriel Bouswser here in d. C. Opposes any kind of fortresslike Ats Tomosphere in washington, d. C. In the days after, when all the fencing went up, in the days after it a lot of it did come down. Mayor here opposing any further permanent kind of fencing. So this is going to be left up to certainly Members Of Congress and security around the capitol, whether or not it needs to be increased. But its very clear, wolf, that a lot has to change, much like it did after 9 11, after this, what really is a terrorist attack, on our nations capitol. Just yesterday, shimon, there was an arrest of a shouting man right near the capitol fence with a gun in his car and ammunition. Tell us what we know. Yeah, so hes a 71yearold man. He was taken into custody. The judge just releasing him a short time ago. And what the police say they found, they found a gun in his car and 20 rounds of ammunition. But then they also describe some other information that they didnt find inside his car. A, as you say, he did have this interaction with guards and police. They were shouting. Police say that he had Stop The Steal literature, of course, referring to the election and all of the wrong and fake and information that went out about the election, the false information. He also had names of lawmakers and other information concerning lawmakers inside his vehicle. There were also, police say, facebook postings about trump and qanon. The judge here in washington, d. C. , clearly doesnt see this man was posing any kind of threat and so he was released but nonetheless, wolf, i think this also just highlights the type of environment that here everyone is under in washington, d. C. Yeah, so many Members Of Congress right now are so understandably concerned about their own security, their familys security, their staff security. This is really an awful situation thats unfolding right now. Shimon, i know youre working your sources. Were going to get back to you. Were also getting new details right now of a meeting between the former President Donald Trump and the House Republican leader Kevin Mccarthy. It comes at a time of growing disarray within the gop over loyalty to trump. Lets go to our chief National Affairs correspondent jeff zeleny. Jeff, so tell us what we know about this meeting down in maralago in palm beach. Wolf, we do know House Minority leader Kevin Mccarthy was in florida on a fundraising swing and scheduled a meeting with former President Donald Trump. See them there in maralago about noontime today. The meeting were told was all about getting the former president onboard to help republicans win back the House Of Representatives. But it is so much more than that. It is signaling Leader Mccarthys direction that he does not want to turn the page from the trump administration, from the trump era. He wants to embrace him and lean into that. Now, aides to the former president have this to say about the meeting. They said that President Trumps popularity has never been stronger than it is today. And his endorsement means more than perhaps any endorsement at any time. We should fact check that a little bit because, of course, his popularity is not as strong as it once was, but he is still very popular inside the Republican Party for primary voters so that is the open question here. But this is a party in disarray, wolf. We have seen, you know, a complete different handling of this from Mitch Mcconnell and the senate. He has not spoken to former President Trump for more than a month, since december 14th, he said, so clearly many republicans were eager to move on from the trump era. Kevin mccarthy, not so much. Mccarthy and other republicans at the same time are facing very, very serious, tough, questions about why they arent doing more to rebuke a gop member for her truly shocking, outrageous statements about school shootings, violence against democrats. Update our viewers on this. And, wolf, this is really extraordinary. Of course, we heard a lot from congresswoman from georgia Marjorie Taylor greene. Weve seen some video that was unearth ed by cnns k file of her before she became a member of congress was simply harassing students from Parkland School who were here in washington Lobbying Senators and other Members Of Congress on gun legislation. We can look at some of that video here. Shes following them around on capitol hill. She certainly is taunting them. Repeatedly. And it is clear that this has been upsetting for many republicans and many Members Of Congress on both sides of the aisle. Now a Leader Mccarthy said he is, you know, certainly not pleased by this and he would have a conversation with her, but he has not stripped her of Committee Assignments, in fact, hes assigned her a Committee Assignment to be on the house education and labor committee. Now, this is all coming amid a strong rebuke from speaker nancy pelosi. She had this to say earlier today. Assigning her to the Education Committee when she has mocked the killing of little children at sandy hook elementary school, when she has mocked the killing of teenagers in high school at the Marjory Stoneman douglas high school. What could they be thinking or thinking is too generous a word, for what they might be doing. Its absolutely appalling and i think that the focus has to be on the Republican Leadership of this House Of Representatives for the disregard they have for the death of those children. Now, this is something we have absolutely not seen before. The level of Ran Kor Cor Agains Members Of Congress. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene, of course, embraced and supported qanon Conspiracy Theories questioning the legitimacy of all these tragic shootings we have seen. She just released a statement a short time ago. It says in part this. Theyre coming after me because they know i represent the people, not the politicians. Theyre coming after me because like President Trump, i will always defend conservative values she says. They want to take me out because i represent the people and they absolutely hate it. Of course, that simply is not the whole matter, wolf. Shes embraced the Conspiracy Theories, was harassing these students. This now is someone who is serving inside the republican ranks and its part of this deeper story of The Civil War brewing within the Republican Party. And Kevin Mccarthy, the house leader, is certainly embracing President Trump in their bid to win back the House Majority in 2022. Yep. Awful situation as well. Jeff zeleny, thank you very much. Lets get some more on all of this. Joining us now, our chief National Correspondent john king. Cnn chief political analyst gloria borger. John, the acting Capitol Police chief now calling for permanent fencing around the u. S. Capitol. Backup forces not very far away at the ready. What does that say about this new reality that all of us are seeing here in the Nations Capital . Its an incredibly sad statement about the severity of the threats and the belief among Law Enforcement officials that these are not passing threats. That they will stay with us. On capitol hill and from the department of Homeland Security and others, at least through the impeachment trial. That means at least through the month of february. Many Law Enforcement officials think it will go on even after that as those being prosecuted for the insurrection have their trials. Youre already hearing some pushback from Members Of Congress. Day dont like the fencing. You heard shimon talking about how the d. C. Mayor doesnt like this. Without a doubt, wolf, Fortress Washington is with us for the foreseeable future around the United States capitol. Maybe not the razorwire fencing, maybe general honore whos advising nancy pelosi will recommend other steps. Theres no question there will be more fencing, more security and more Law Enforcement around the United States capitol and other key installations for the foreseeable future because of this threat level and, again, to remind people its a threat level from within. Worried about domestic terrorists and largely supporters of the former president. Totally understandable they need this kind of security around the u. S. Capitol. You know, gloria, it all comes as we heard what i i think youll agree with me, a truly stunning statement from the House Speaker nancy pelosi today on the range of threats, the range of threats facing u. S. Members of congress. Listen to this. The enemy is within the House Of Representatives. A threat that members are concerned about. We have Members Of Congress who want to bring guns on the floor and have threatened violence on other Members Of Congress. Gloria, how incredible is this . Well, it is incredible. I mean, what nancy pelosi did not say is that her own life was threatened by Marjorie Taylor greene in on social media. And imagine, wolf, going into work every day and wondering whether you are safe because somebody you work with and you see on the floor where you work is carrying a gun and you dont trust that person because in a previous life they have threatened you. Imagine that. I mean, lawmakers have to go through this now every day and i know theyre pushing back, as john says, about this kind of security because this is the peoples house. But january 6th not only changed the country, but it changed the congress. And it changed the way people who work there feel about their safety and feel about their jobs. And i think thats a shame, but it is the world were living in. Yeah. Its a really, really awful situation as well. You know, john, the former president , donald trump, as weve been reporting, he met with the minority leader Kevin Mccarthy today down in palm beach. Put out a statement afterwards, Trump Campaign put out a statement saying his endorsement means more than, perhaps, any endorsement at any time. Thats the former president of the United States talking about his own endorsement. What do you make of that . Well, that picture speaks more than a thousand words. It speaks a million words. Look, the former president likes himself. Theres no surprise there. Thats not Breaking News. He thinks hes the most powerful president ever. Look, his political standing has been diminished significantly nationally. However, that picture tells you everything you need to know. Kevin mccarthy wants to be speaker. The democrats have a very narrow majority in the house. Kevin mccarthy thinks kissing the ring and making this without a doubt the party of trump Going Forward for the next two years is his path to the speakership. What is the effect of that . Wolf, you see it. You see it in the conversation we were having about Marjorie Taylor greene, see it today in matt gaetz, rank and file trumpy member, going to wyoming, liz cheneys district, calling her corrupt saying shes part of an insider club in washington, saying Mitch Mcconnell is in that club, too. A club he says is screwing the American People every day. So Kevin Mccarthy does not have control over his own caucus now becausethy know through his actions today, he supports this, they have one leader. Donald trump. Period. Look what happened today with Kevin Mccarthy. Watch what these trumploving republicans are saying in the house. Look at the test vote yesterday. If you hear a republican say were trying to break from donald trump, turn down the volume, its not a serious movement, its his party, period. Can i add, Kevin Mccarthy had a phone call with his members yesterday where he said, cut out the Crap Fighting with each other. What did he do . He took sides today. Went to see donald trump to tell him how much he loves him, to make sure donald trump would welcome him back into the fold. Remember, he went on the floor at one point and said that donald trump bears responsibility for january 6th and he kind of took it back, but he took sides today. Matt gaetz is free to do whatever he wants and the president the expresident wants to see liz cheney kicked out of leadership. Mccarthy has said she ought to remain, but he has concerns about her. Lets see what he says when he comes back. He took sides today. Because he needs the money. Because he wants to be speaker. There are republicans, though, john, who agree with liz cheney, you know, who agree with adam kinzinger, other republicans who are saying the former president has been a disaster for the Republican Party and they got to move on. They got to get new leadership. Right . Yes, there are, but they are a distinct minority. Its a handful, ma ybe a dozen members of the house. Ten republicans voted to impeach the president. Might be twice that many who wul publicly say the party needs to distance itself from them. 45 of the 50 republican senators saying they dont want to have an impeachment trial. You have republican governors like larry hogan of maryland, Charlie Baker of massachusetts. Theyre centrist to moderate republicans. This is trumps party plain and simple. The calculation is about 2022. Have a 50 50 senate, have the smallest House Snoemajority for senate weve had in some time. They think they can get power back but know they will not if they have a civil war. Those who say republicans need to make a 10, 20year play, look at demographics, collegeeducated people, younger people, look at voters of color. Theyre being drowned out by people looking at 2022 saying republicans can take by power, at least they believe they can, they know to do that they need trump, period. Gloria, Kevin Mccarthy was warned not to go down to florida with one source telling us it makes it look like hes, quote, crawling back to trump. Does the gop see a path forward without trump . Well, as you can see today from that picture, i agree with john, it tells you everything you need to know. No, they dont. Those are forced smiles there. And what Kevin Mccarthy is doing is enabling donald trump and saying, you can still be our king maker, we want you to be our kingmaker. What we all know about donald trump is that he cares about himself. He wants to be back in the spotlight. He probably misses it. This is about him. He doesnt care about saving the Republican Party. He would like to be able to say that he is important and what Kevin Mccarthy did was give him all the oxygen he needs to start doing that again. So mccarthy gave the signal, were going to get the majority, its going to be Donald Trumps majority, if thats the way, the only way i can get it and i think thats what he cares about. He wants to be the speaker. He certainly does. All right. Gloria and john, guys, thank you very much. Coming up, were going to get the latest on the state of President Bidens nearly 2 Trillion Covid Relief Package. There are new developments unfolding right now. Well be right back. Advil targets pain at the source. Acetaminophen blocks pain signals. New advil dual action with acetaminophen. Welcome, todays discussion will be around sliced meat. Moms want healthy. And affordable. Land o Frost Premium no added hormones either. Its the only protein ive really melted with. Land o Frost Premium. Fresh look. Same great taste. 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Com to find out if you policy qualifies. Or call the number on your screen. Coventry direct, redefining insurance. Theres more Breaking News were following. The white house saying a little while ago that President Biden believes his Massive Covid relief bill can be and will be bipartisan, despite a stalemate in congress right now. Lets go to our chief White House Correspondent kaitlan collins. Kaitlan, does the Biden Administration still see a path to getting a bipartisan amount of support on this 1. 9 Trillion Covid relief bill . Well, wolf, they have said that day do. A lot of people in washington are skeptical of that based on the responses that weve heard from lawmakers on capitol hill, and so there are new questions today about whether democrats are going to use this process called reconciliation to get this proposal passed. Of course, that would stop them from having to get republican support to reach that 60vote threshold. So there are questions about that given President Biden came into office promising to compromise with republicans, strike a sense of unity. So there are real questions about whats going to happen with these proposal. We asked the white house would he sign a bill that only democrats supported, and heres what the Press Secretary said today, wolf. Given that democrats have kind of indicated they will move forward with or without republican support, would President Biden sign a bill that only democrats voted for . Well, were not quite there. Thats getting us a few steps ahead of where we are now. He continues to believe that this can be, should be, and will be, a bipartisan bill that receives psupport from democrat and republicans and hes having conversations with and listening to leaders and members of both parties to assure that we get to exactly that place. Now, wolf, theres a bit of a time crunch here because two things, one, the white house is tied. The funding theyve allocated for schools to in this proposal to the promise from President Biden to get schools open within his first 100 days in office. Theyre facing questions about whether that promise still stands. If this bill doesnt get passed. The other thing is, something the white house has noted multiple times, jobless benefits expire in march. So, of course, that is something thats in this proposal. A solution for that remains to be seen. So well be waiting to see if they strike any deals with republicans and democrats on this. We do know that President Biden has been personally involved in this and working the phones with lawmakers to talk through their issues of the bill. Yeah, speaking of jobless benefits, 847,000 americans lost their jobs, filed for firsttime Unemployment Benefits just last week. The economy obviously clearly in deep, deep trouble. Kaitlan, the president did make some sweeping changes today on health care, basically undoing the changes that trump made. Explain to our viewers out there what todays Executive Orders mean. Yeah, he framed it as undoing the damage that President Trump did and one of the main things that i think youll see almost immediately starting next month is he has reopened the period for that enrollment session for those federal marketplaces, for the Affordable Care act. Of course, that is something that President Trump was urged to do as the pandemic hit and people started to lose their jobs and lose their access to health care or realize they needed health care given, of course, there are a pandemic sweeping the nation. But President Trump refused to do that. They kept it at a sixweek period that expired in december. So what this order would do today that President Biden signed would extend that period from about 90 days, reopen it to run from February 15th To May 15th. And so the white house is saying that this is his attempt to bolster the Affordable Care act, reopen this period because, of course, what you were just noting there about people filing for firsttime unemployment, health care has been a massive aspect of that. This is one of several other steps he took today but this is the one that will likely have the most immediate effects he can do via an executive action. Yeah, if trump signed Executive Orders, biden can sign Executive Orders doing away with trumps Executive Orders. This is not legislation passed by congress that you need new legislation. These are simply Executive Orders. Kaitlan, thank you very, very much. Lets discuss with the California Democratic representative adam schiff. Hes the chairman of the house intelligence committee. Congressman, thanks so much for joining us. I want to discuss the stimulus with you in a moment, but let me get your thoughts, first, the acting Capitol Police chief now calling for permanent fencing around the u. S. Capitol. And just yesterday a man was arrested near the capitol not far from the u. S. Capitol with a gun, ammunition, and disturbingly a list of u. S. Senators and representatives. How dangerous is the situation right now . Well, its very dangerous, and we continue to get information about just how many threats are out there. You know, i think that the Acting Police Chief is responding to that, but many of us i think in congress, wolf, would frankly be very reluctant to see that permanent barrier between the representatives and the people. It may be necessary for some time, but i sure hope its not permanent. I hope that were going through a really dark period in our history but that we can get beyond it and not have to, you know, do our government work behind the barricades. Its just awful to see the necessary presence of so many troops, National Guard troops, guarding the nations capitol. I just would never have imagined that would be necessary and i hope that it wont be necessary indefinitely. One of the beautiful things over all these years that ive been in washington a long time is the whole area around capitol hill, people could just walk around, they could go up to the building and now, and i go around it every day just to see whats going on, including today, you see these fences that are not being moved. The barbed wire, the troops, you know, the military vehicles, this is what i saw earlier today. When i was driving around. Its heartbreaking to see this because the folks want it. Tourists especially. They come to washington. They want to see the u. S. Capitol. They want to walk around. They want to have an opportunity to meet with their representatives and their senators. One very disturbing thing, theres so many disturbing things, congressman, the House Speaker nancy pelosi said today, and im quoting her now, the enemy is within, within the House Of Representatives. Do you agree with her . Well, sadly, i do agree. You look at some of these members including Representative Greene who have threatened on social media prior to her election other Members Of Congress. You have members like her who have suggested that attacks against students, murderous attacks on High School Campuses like at parkland were somehow fake, fraudulent, or false flag operations. And theyre being rewarded by Kevin Mccarthy with assignments on the Education Committee. You know, the gop leadership is becoming little more than a cult and a dangerous cult. That photo you showed of Kevin Mccarthy and donald trump, you know, what Kevin Mccarthy is saying in that photo is, i dont stand for anything, i dont care about anything, i accept my own personal ambition. And if i have to embrace someone who just incited an insurrection against the capitol that resulted in multiple deaths, then i will do it. And that is sadly where the gop leadership is at in the congress and thats part of the reason why the capitol looks like an Armed Fortress right now. Were showing viewers a picture, the save america pac, the trump pac put out a picture, lets put it up on the screen, maralago, palm beach, florida, Kevin Mccarthy and the former president with a little bit of a forced smile. Clearly, he went down there to try to make up for what he said earlier. It was pretty blunt what he said earlier. He blamed trump for the insurrection and since then, hes been trying, congressman schiff, to walk back from that statement which is pretty ridiculous. It is ridiculous, but, you know, it is very consistent with Kevin Mccarthy, which is nothing, if not malleable to whichever direction the wind is blowing, and he thinks the wind is blowing in Donald Trumps favor. And he is willing to embrace that, notwithstanding the destruction that that man brought to this country. And, you know, its its just reprehensible, but thats where the gop leadership is, and i dont know how many years its going to take for that party to purge itself of donald trump. We need two Functioning Parties in this country for a system to work. Right now, we dont. And, you know, i think we see that played out in the debate over the Relief Package and whether we can get a bipartisan package done, but right now, the gop is still in the thrall of donald trump, notwithstanding how much death and destruction he has wrought. Congressman adam schiff, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you, wolf. Theres more Breaking News were following. South carolina now confirming that not one but two people there have been infected with the South African Coronavirus Variant thats easier to spread. Well update you on that when we come back. upbeat music get the food you love with perks from [crowd] grubhub. Like you, my hands are everything to me. But i was diagnosed with dupuytrens contracture. And it got to the point where things i took for granted got tougher to do. Thought surgery was my only option. Turns out i was wrong. So when a Hand Specialist told me about nonsurgical treatments, it was a total game changer. Like you, my hands have a lot more to do. Learn more at factsonhand. Com today. Were also following breaking pandemic news. The u. S. Death toll has now topped 431,000 people, with more than 25. 7 million confirmed cases here in the United States. Yesterday, alone, almost 4,000 americans lost their lives to covid. Cnn National Correspondent athena jones has the latest. Reporter that new more Transmissible Coronavirus Variant first identified in south africa is now here in the United States. South carolina officials confirming two cases of the variant that along with strains first spotted in the United Kingdom and brazil are increasing concerns among experts. The variants have been ide identified, recently seen to spread more easily. Theyre more transmissible which can lead to increased number of cases and increased stress on our already taxed health care system. Reporter this as new Coronavirus Infections and hospitalizations slow nationwide. With some states looking to ease Public Health measures. New yorks Governor Andrew Cuomo Lifting Restrictions for every region of the state except one zone upstate and three zones in new york city. While aiming to release a plan for reopening Indoor Dining in the city by friday. I think at this point its safe to say the Holiday Surge was anticipated and the Holiday Surge did happen, but the Holiday Surge is over. Reporter still, others warn not so fast. So what we can expect to see in the course of the next, i think, 6 to 14 speaks, is something that we havent even come close to experiencing yet. Reporter one expert saying the worst is yet to come. This is going to be the darkest of the days and so we have to help our political leaders unction, nows the time not to roll out, not nows not the time to ease up. We will be pumping the brakes after the cars wrapped around the tree if we do that. Reporter the concern coming as daily covid19related deaths nationwide remain high. Nearly 4,000 reported wednesday. Even as new cases decline. Amid fears the new variants will supercharge the virus spread. At least 315 cases of the uk variant already identified in 28 states. One bright spot, another Study Suggests the Pfizer Biontech vaccine will be mostly effective against the uk and south african strains. Pfizer and moderna strains may offer less protection from the south african one. Were much more concerned about the south african strain. What were going to do about it, we are already working with the companies to make what we would call a booster. Reporter but vaccines wont work unless people can get them. And distribution in the u. S. Continues to lag. With only about half the doses distributed to states having been administered. Now, to help boost vaccine distribution, fema has asked the pentagon to help possibly by sending as many as 10,000 troops to vaccination megahubs. The problem with places like this right outside Yankee Stadium is not enough vaccine, this is one of several Mass Vaccination sites officials plan to use, but they cant open until they have enough doses of vaccine. Wolf . They got to get those doses out there and got to do it quickly. Athe athe athena, thank you very much. Lets get more on this. Former cdc director is joining us right now. Thank you so much for joining us. Lets talk about this Coronavirus Variant first discovered in south africa. Its confirmed now to be spreading here in the United States as well. Does this make rapid and widespread Coronavirus Vaccine distribution even more critical . Well, the good news, wolf, is that it appears that the moderna and Pfizer Vaccines are likely to work pretty well against the strains that have been identified. The bad news is that this is a warning that the virus really can become more dangerous and we need to do two things. The first is keep up and get better at protection. Double down on Protection Protocols and the second is Ramp Up Vaccination as soon as possible. We need vaccines out of freezers and into arms and we need to be focusing on communities that are getting neglected. Communities that have lower Vaccination Rates as well as making sure that we do a really good Job Vaccinating in nursing homes, residents and staff to drive down the risk of death there. Dr. Fauci said the variant first identified in south africa troubles him because of the amount of protection current vaccines appear to offer against it. To be clear, its still important for americans to go ahead, get the vaccine. The vaccine, both doses of the pfizer and the moderna as quickly as possible. Its critically important, but do you think they might need a third dose, a booster, after the first two . From everything weve seen, none of the strains, not the strain identified in south africa, or any other one, really is going to make this vaccine ineffective. The vaccine gives such a high level of antibodies, such a high level of immunity, theres likely a margin of safety there, though time will tell. Whats really more of a concern is that these strains are an Early Warning that there may be other variants that emerge that do evade the vaccine and thats why its important to do two things. Again, Roll Out Vaccination as rapidly as possible. Also tamp down spread. The more spread there is, the more risk there will be that a more dangerous variant will emerge and spread. Good advice as always from dr. Frieden. Thank you so much for joining us. We really appreciate it. Just ahead, well have more on this hours Breaking News here in washington. The citys mayor now forcefully rejecting calls for permanent fencing around the u. S. Capitol and stationing extra u. S. Military forces nearby. When you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more. So you can bring your vision to life. For small prices, you can build big dreams. Spend less, get way more. Shop everything home at wayfair today. Look, this isnt my first rodeo and let me tell you something, i wouldnt be here if i thought Reverse Mortgages took advantage of any american senior, or worse, that it was some way to take your home. Its just a loan designed for older homeowners, and, its helped over a million americans. A reverse Mortgage Loan isnt some kind of trick to take your home. 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You know, it strikes me as i look at this proposal that this is a step that the u. S. Did not take in the 20 years since 9 11. When there were other Terror Threats to the capitol even through the years of deep fears of isis, lone wolves, et cetera, or even after the 1998 Capitol Shooting in which 2 Capitol Police officers were killed when a gunman entered the capitol. So through all that, this has not been proposed but now is it. Why is that . One, the gravity of what happened on january 6th. The reality, the images of hundreds of people assaulting the capitol and just overwhelming the security they had, but it also speaks to, wolf, the realization, the awareness within Law Enforcement and u. S. National security officials, that this in some ways is the tip of the iceberg. Right . That there are groups out there, many hundreds, perhaps thousands, of adherents to this view of the world, right . The sense that the election was stolen. Ties to violent groups, willingness to use violence against their opponents. That this may be a necessary step. Now, there is opposition to walling off the capitol, but it does speak to the gravity of that event on january 6th and fears of what could come next. Yeah, just yesterday as you know, the department of Homeland Security, the National Terrorism advisory system, said that these individuals want to target elected officials and government facilities. We know a man was arrested right near the capitol with a gun and lot of ammunition, 20 rounds of ammunition, a list of representatives and senators, who said he believed there was Election Fraud in 2020. How much of this threat stems from all these lies, the misinformation, out there . Enormously, right . And its the election lie, right, propagated by the president , but its a whole series of lies prior to that, and, again, fed by the president over years. A sense of the system being against them, the system is rigged, The Deep State is behind this, that Law Enforcement is tied to The Deep State, right . That all these levers of power are working against them, and thats why you saw in that event not just attacking or targeting, the hope of targeting lawmakers, but Law Enforcement officers, themselves, and, of coursing one paid with this life. More than 100 were seriously injured. And the the real danger right now, right, is that the chief Probl Propagator of the lie, right, is still a powerful force in these groups. That is President Trump and has still not given up the lie. He still claims the election was stolen. Still claims that the root motivation, at the root of their cause, exists here. And thats enormously dangerous. I think, wolf, if we compared that, and by the way, this is the way Law Enforcement looks at the domestic Terror Threat now as equal or greater than interNational Terrorism, if we compared that to a u. S. Politician propagating Islamist Terrorist thought, materials, lies, et cetera, imagine the reaction, and yet, sadly, theres still a partisan reaction to this. Some denying that the threat is real and the lie behind the threat is dangerous. The u. S. Capitol police, Acting Police Chief, says there has to be permanent fencing and the availability of ready backup forces in close proximity to the capitol. Hard to believe. All right, jim sciutto, thank you very, very much. Thanks, wolf. Coming up, the gop if disarray as loyalty to former President Trump splits the party. Plus, the urgent effort under way right now to get more Covid Vaccinations into the arms of americans. Were going to get the latest from a Senior Adviser on the Biden White House Covid Response team. Well be right back. We have much more coming up on the very serious Security Threats here in washington right now, prompting calls for a permanent barrier around the u. S. Capitol building. But first Alexey Navalny will stay in detention under a hearing next week over the whether the kremlin critic should face jail time in a yearsold fraud case. Our Fred Pleitgen is in moscow with details. Reporter tonight Kremlin Decreeic Alexey Navalny not backing down, despite being kept in jail after a hearing he called a sham. The this is demonstrable lawlessness aimed at intimidating me and everyone else, he says. Its not even done by the judges, because the judges here are just obedient slaves. Its done by people who have been stealing from our country for 20 years. Navalny was detained immediately when he landed in moscow, after recovering from poisoning by the chemical weapon novichok. Tens of thousands came out demanding his rice lease. Far from being intimidated navalny, who was only allowed to attend his hearing by the video link from the Notorious Mow Cots Jail where hes detained called on protesters to continue protesting. I support those who protest, he says, theyre the last barrier from this country slipping decomplete degradation. You wont be able to scare us. We are the majority. Vladimir putin recently took the unusual step of publicly denying ownership of a palatial black sea resident that navalnys Group Alleges was funded by corruption. The opposition leaders lawyer tells me he believes authorities are nervous, looking to lock navalny up for a long time surprisingly turnout was high not only in moscow, but in many regions across all of russia. Lawyers elsa helps those who get into trouble for protesting in kazan, about 500 miles east of moscow. Translator i was honestly surprised by how many people came out. We usually have small demos, but this time it was a huge event. Reporter the kremlin has ripped into what it calls illegal protests. Despite navalny still in detention, his movement shows no sign of slowing down. 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Announcer this is cnn breaks news. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. Im wolf blitzer in the situation room. Were following Breaking News, the growing threat of extremist violence here in washington, d. C. , could lead to major changes. The acting u. S. Capitol police chief is calling for permanent fencing, and back up forces

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