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Bigotry, this is the time. Welcome to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. This is new day. Alisyn is off. Poppy harlow is with me. Good to be here. I wish it were better news. A lot of sad news. We begin with two attacks on places of worship. The first in texas where a gunman opened fire in sunday services. The churchs live stream captured the exchange of fire. It was all over in just six seconds. Were going to show you this extraordinary video. We also have the latest on the suspect and the motive coming up. The texas attack happening in the wake of the stabbing rampage that happened this weekend inside of a rabbis home right outside of new york city. That attack left five people wounded and could have been even more tragic. If the people inside did not fight back the way they did. Police say the suspect was covered in blood when he was caught two hours later. A statement was released about the suspect stating mental illness. The governor is calling the attack domestic terrorism. Lets begin in white settlement, texas. Thats where we find our lucy kafanov with more. What can you tell us this morning . Reporter poppy, there are families grieving this morning, and theyre demanding answers. Not as to what happened, that senseless act of violence captured on camera, but as to why. We know from the video of the live stream the shooter was dressed in all black. He sat in one of the pews in the back of the church. He gets up and pulls out a shotgun and opening fire. Armed volunteer parishioner security members immediately respond. They open fire back. The whole thing over in just six seconds. Its an incredibly disturbing video. I want to warn our viewers to be mindful of that as they watch. Keep an eye on the upper lefthand corner of the screen. [ gunshots ] reporter incredibly disturbing to watch. Its not the first shooting against a church here in texas. The 2017 mass shooting at the Sutherland Springs church killed 26 people. In the aftermath of that, texas enacted a law allowing licensed handgun owners to bring weapons into places of worship. The pastor here assaying thats why it was over so quickly. Take a listen. Reporter we dont have that sound bite, but again, Law Enforcement and the pastor praising them as heroes. We dont have any information about the motive yet. We do know that the fbi has described the shooter as a transient person with roots in the area. He has been arrested in multiple municipalities but he was not on any sort of a watch list. That is all we have for you right now. Lucy kafanov in texas. Thank you for the reporting. Our heart goes out to the people there. So, too, they go out to those in new york. The latest attack against jews in the state and across the nation. Brynn gingras is live in monsey, new york. Reporter this is a community on high alert. The attack happened on saturday night in the home right here behind me. There was about a hundred people gathered inside celebrating the seventh night of hanukkah when police say the 38yearold suspect named Grafton Thomas walked in carrying a knife that reports are so big that it looked like a broom stick. And he went allegedly on this rampage sniring five people in all. One person were told has a skull fracture. There were people throwing furniture, grabbing family members trying to get out of the way and fight back. Then thomas ran allegedly across the street or really next door and tried to get into a synagogue. But the worshippers inside were able to lock the doors and prevent him from getting in. Then he was able to flee the scene. Were learning from authorities that people were able to get his license plate. And he was tracked down nearly two hours later in new york city about an hour away from here crossing the gw bridge where nypd were able to stop him. And Authorities Say he had blood all over him from this attack and he smells of bleach. Now, he has been arrested charged with five counts of attempted murder and burglary. He was in court yesterday for his initial arraignment. He pleaded not guilty and hes being held right now behind bars on 5 million bail. Now, as far as a motive, its unclear. Authorities arent giving any details as to why he carried out this attack, but his family has released a statement saying he has a history of mental illness. But there has been a string of attacks. Governor cuomo here in new york saying there have been 13 antisemitic acts of violence within just the past 3 weeks. And he says this act was a domestic terrorism. He said call it what it is. He says hes going to be doing something about it. Poppy . And the governor will join us next hour. Brynn, thank you for being there. Such important reporting. So with me now is joseph glock. He is being hailed as hero. Thank you so much for being here. I cant imagine your pain. Im just so sorry. Thank you. What would you like to tell everyone before we get into the details of the horror that you encountered and helped stop . What do you want america, the world to know about your community in monsey . We have a very tight community and close knit community. My view would be of somebody mentally ill should come in and talk to kong regants. Not try to make a massacre. Thats not a mental illness. Thats a absolutely heinous crime. Joseph, if you could take us through moment by moment. Because i read in the New York Times that you said the attacker screamed at you specifically and said, i will get you. Walk us through the moments as you remember them. I was sitting in the rabbis living room when this attacker came in. He first stood in the entry room, started hitting people left with his machete knife, i dont know what it was. And thats when i started to run out. Through the back of the door outside, i run back to the front door to see if it could help anyone from the other side. Thats where sorry. Im a bit tired. Thats when i came back in the other guy who had the brain fracture was Still Standing there bleeding. I asked him lets go, come on. The guy still in the kitchen. Attacker in the kitchen, lets go out. He said i cant. Im bleeding. I cant. Thats when i saw him coming back towards me. I ran out. And i saw that he went to the old guy. I came back in, grabbed the coffee table that was on the floor. Hit him in his face. Thats when he came back outside after me. He told me, hey you, ill get you. And he started walking towards me. And i was running i was going before him a few feet screaming hes coming, hes coming. Everybody in the synagogue should run away. He went almost to the door of the synagogue. He reached for the door. He ran to the next door, it was locked too. Thats when he walked down a side street. I didnt know where he was walking to. I walked with him slowly. I looked for his plate number. Called 911. And i came back up the street. The Police Officers were already there. Wow. I think we all wonder what would we do in a moment like that . And many of us, i think human nature is to run away. And you ran forward and threw a table at him. Then followed him to his car to try to make sure authorities can app rrehendable apprehendable him. There were even babies in the home as this was happening. Is that right . Ages of 2 months to 80yearold. So i can only the rabbi had a the rab by had a couple of maybe 20 grandchildren in the house. We just had the head of the Antidefamation League on last hour. And we have Governor Cuomo on next hour. I wonder what your message is to the governor who called this an act of domestic terrorism . What do you believe authorities, lawmakers, should do in response . Condemn acts of violence always in the hardest way possible. Our local officials condemn every time there is an act of violence and should be calling out differences. Not ignite hatred. Do gods work. Let me ask you this. And try to make everybody yeah. As a hasidic jew, do you feel that you specifically are being targeted because of the fact that faith is so much a part of your life and part of how you dress, your appearance . Do you feel unsafe daily now as a result and like you are even more of a target now . No. I dont feel like i am the target. There might be some lowballs here and there, but i dont feel like im a target. Of course, somebody want to attack a jew, hes not going to look for a liberal jew that doesnt look like a jew. He will find the first one dressed to the nines and try to attack him. But it doesnt mean im not safe here less safe now than i was last month, last year. That im going to be next month. I believe we are all in gods hands. Nothing we can do will change besides prayers and doing good deeds. Its the only thing thats going to change anything from evil to good. What would you like in terms of protection for the community . We, again, heard the head of the adl say the Jewish Community is under attack and the pattern were seeing in this region, in new york is undeniable. I dont know. Im not an expert. I have no clue. Do you feel like a hero this morning . Because that is certainly how it appears to all of us. I dont feel like a hero. God is a hero. He sent me in the right place at the right time and gave me the right set of mind. I dont know why. I dont know if i would have done it tomorrow or yesterday. In that exact moment, thats what god gave me. Thats how i reacted. Before you go, could you tell us a bit more about the children in the home and their reaction . Obviously, there were infants. But i assume also toddlers, some younger children. What was it like going through this and seeing their faces in the middle of it . Ill tell you that my kids didnt sleep saturday night. They came into my bed. They couldnt fall asleep until yesterday late afternoon. This night they were all in my bed. Couldnt fall asleep until 2 00 p. M. That was just hearing it about it from me. And they were traumatized. There are a lot of local kids that are shaking and vomiting blood three hours later from fear. There was one kid hiding in the entry room behind the coats. He threw a pile of coats on his head. I didnt believe he didnt come out from his home until now. And there are a lot of adults traumatized. My goodness. I am so sorry. We are all so, so sorry and also so grateful to you for what you did, joseph. Thank you very much. Have a great day. Hopefully not to speak to you again. I understand what hes saying. Because this is an attack on all of us and this is the type of thing that no one should have to go through. Joining me now is rabbi Jeffrey Meyers from the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. They were attacked by a gunman last year killing 11 people. It was the deadliest attack in the Jewish Community in history. It is always an honor to get to speak with you, although i have to say it is a tragedy that it is under these circumstances. I have to imagine when you heard the news coming out of monsey, new york, on the seventh night of hanukkah, you were heartbroken like the rest of us. How did you react . Yes, john. Good morning. Nice to see you again. For me it was an oh, no, not again moment combined with the flurry of antisemitic violence you have heard is taking place. It made me sort of wonder, i dont recall them selling licenses to have open hunting season on jews, but it sure can make jews feel that way. Do you feel that way now . Thats quite a statement. It sure makes you pause and wonder whats going on in our society that people feel that they have a godgiven right to attack any human being for whatever reason they choose to. It makes you pause and wonder whats going on, indeed. What do you think is going on . Because, look. Weve seen the numbers. You can see the succetatistics. The rise is 99 up. I dont have to tell you about the specific antisemitic attacks or attacks on jews in america over the last few years. Why do you think its happening . I wish i could sit here and say i have answers. Youve heard me talk about it before, when i talk about hate speech, that theres too much of that. Th that, too much anger in people. That kind of hate will always lead to that. We see it too much in the social media and the internet. Social media has become this swamp, a breeding ground of all of this violence. I dont see theres one root cause. But i do see this illness in the United States where a person will attack another person and feel that theres one set of rules for them and another set of rules for someone else. It sure makes one wonder whats going on in the United States. Do you feel less safe as a jew this morning than you might have five, ten years ago . No, i do not. I do have friends who feel that way. There are those who have literally gone into hiding as the jews have done over the centuries. I do not feel that way. I feel outrage. How dare you attack another faith community. There is no right that you have to do that. So, no. Im not afraid. Im not foolish, but i just feel outrage at this violence that is unacceptable. Its unamerican. Thats not what america is about. Did you say that youve had friends and others who feel like they should go into hiding recently . Yes. People who did not light their hanukkah menorah because particularly after this attack, they were afraid to show their jewishness in the window. People who feel less safe going to synagogue because of an attack like this. It troubles me. It saddens me. Because when acts of terror do these sorts of things, they terrorize. They create more victims. And then terror wins. And we know that thats not what can happen. It must not happen. We cannot allow that to happen. Indeed. We cannot let it happen. And if theres any message from hanukkah, it is you cannot let it happen and you must persist and move on. I want to leave on this message. One of the things you speak so eloquently on is the idea of hope over hate. So whats your message to the people in monsey or the people in jersey city or the people who have been the victim of these attacks in new york the last few months . Where is that message of hope for them . Over this past year, ive come to learn, john, that the world as a society rejects people who behave this way. Through constant letters, emails, cards. Thousands of them. People say to me, this is not who we are as human beings. This is a small minority. Unfortunately the squeaky wheel is the one that gets the most attention. There are so many good, decent, caring people out there. We lose sight of who they are and the impact they have in our lives because of evil acts like this. In the end, this sort of evil will never win, because thats not who we are as human beings. The good that ive seen over this past year reassures me that we are far better, capable of being far better. And there are good people out there. We just dont hear enough of them on a regular basis. Its like your heroes annual tribute. We need to have a tribute like that every day to remind the rest of society of all the good people that are out there. Well, youre a hero to us. An inspiration to speak with you. Its an education to speak with you and were honored to have you on this morning, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you, john. Happy new year to you. And happy new year to you. Happy hanukkah late. I am inspired by him but also more troubled than i thought i would be when he said his fellow jews going into hiding. Yes. Because it is the antithesis of what hanukkah is about. That you will light the candles no matter what. That you will endure no matter what. And also rabbi meyers. This is a guy who finds hope in the most remarkable of place. For him to suggest it feels like open season on jews took my breath away. It did mine as well. When he said that his friend were going into hiding or hiding their faith and their belief, it gave me chills. As did hearing from joseph, the hero in the attack over the weekend, say that children were so traumatized they were vomiting blood. Okay . That his children couldnt sleep last night. It is unacceptable. It is heinous. And were going to have the governor on next hour to talk about his push for a law to call this domestic terrorism. We are better than this. We just have to go prove it. Well be right back. Im finding it hard to stay on top of things a faster laptop could help. Plus, tech support to stay worry free woory free. Boom boom get free business day shipping. At office depot, officemax and officedepot. 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And the message sent here is how long, how involved, and how much i think a sense there was a problem from the very beginning. One quote here. This is from Mick Mulvaney, an exchange here. Im just trying to tie up some loose ends, mulvaney wrote. Did we ever find out about the money for ukraine and whether we could hold it back. The aide robert blair said it would be possible but not pretty. Expect congress to become unhinged if the white house tried to countermand spending passed by the house and the senate. Whats your takeaway . There was a lot of warnings going on inside the government that the holdup of aid would be a problem. Again, blairs email really undersells just exactly how problematic it would be for the president in part by his impeachment, the holdup of aid. But also that there was a lot of divisions in the government about the holdup. There were people who resigned in part, we think, because of the aid holdup. And you know, again, going back to the impeachment hearings, this is really one of the mysteries that came out of it. How did it get held up, who was for it, who was against it. How did this process play out . Thats why we endeavored to tell that story. It felt like it was one of the Untold Stories out of the last couple months. And you told the story of these remarkable 84 days and the president s insistence even in the face of strong advice to say the least from the defense secretary, from the secretary of state, from then N