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that is hunter biden, the mental states such that he would intentionally do this. are those forms even reliable? can you put your trust in them? and at the end of the day, i think you'll find that we are society that should be uplifting attics, not attempting for people who don't believe that they're addicts at the time to criminalize them. he's not guilty at all. it'll be the battle of the narratives, kate and the courtroom today off right where joy left off. bill, we as paul was laying out, six men, six women on this jury, many of them who saying they have had experienced in their lives connection with addiction, which let's be honest, is representative of society today there's not one family really hasn't been touched by addiction. one of the jurors includes a woman who said that she has las many friends to drug addiction. how does that impact the approach here? >> well, good morning. good morning, joey. i think it impacts the approach in favor of the defense. i pick juries regularly when there's a drug