story here for stocks. we could look at a record close for the market the dow is up 63 but coming off its highs. courtney reagan with stay closer look. >> the stocks falling a bit here as the dollar strengthens, like you mentioned, those comments from president trump to joe kernen in davos. we have found some footing let's see what happens going into the final hour here not a repeat of what we saw yesterday when we saw this pretty fast fade around the european close time. it's the big "m" word that's being discussed as the main driver for this rally. momentum that's taking equities higher there are commentaries coming out of the blue chip dow earnings, like caterpillar, and bellwether indicator like 3m we do have that phenomenon happening today. caterpillar, 3m and goldman sachs helping to lift the dow jones industrial average health care, materials, among the strongest sectors. and biotech's etfs, the hxb and bxi. the aerospace and defense group is hitting a new intraday all-time high today led by rbc, northrup, general dynamics and boeing is in there, too. momentum is lifting many boats but not the transports no boats in there. we have the airlines and those are being weighed down today in the transports down again for the third straight session so, that's something we can continue to watch. tech has faded throughout the session today but it wasn't the big laggard like yesterday apple is down and we know that weighs heavily across the board when we see that. >> we're starting to play the script in reverse with that dollar up, now gold's down, oil's down, and the s&p is down. courtney, thank you. let's talk about this wild ride. we did hit multiyear lows. the dollar index was in the 88s. then the president spoke with cnbc and said he supports a stronger dollar. >> yeah, i think they were taken out of context because i read his exact statement. i'll tell you where i stand, which is ultimately very important. number one, i don't like talking about it because, frankly, nobody should be talking about it it should also be based on the strength of the country. we are doing so well our country is becoming so economically strong again and strong in other ways, too, by the way, that the dollar is going to get stronger and stronger, and ultimately i want to see a strong dollar >> pretty clear there. the president spoke defending treasury secretary steve mnuchin who earlier today in davos clarified his remarks from the day before suggesting a weak dollar is good for america listen >> my comments have been that in the short term where the dollar is, is not a concern of mine, okay, that it will fluctuate that in the short term there's obviously benefits and issues with a lower dollar. again, in terms of the benefits, it is beneficial for our trade imbalances there are also issues for people who hold dollars i want to be clear in acknowledging both >> mr. mnuchin would not be the first treasury secretary to have to clarify his position on the dollar, that's for sure. >> and i wonder if they all read "the wall street journal" yesterday saying, do you want to be associated with the weak dollar president or the strong one? dominic chu has a look at some that could get hurt. >> we know variable prices go into a stock and how much a company is worth the dollar is a big part of that story because for the most part a lot of businesses in america get revenues from abroad and they have to translate those and profits back into u.s. dollars so the value is important. as you point out, a wild ride today. watch some etfs that attract the value of the dollar. within the s&p 500 is there are stocks on both ends of the spectrum, those more heavily tilted toward international business and more domestically focused. according to data from msci and factset, these companies get a lot of their revenues from abroad they do a lot of business there, so they could be stocks more at least sensitive to moves on the dollar mcdonald's gets two-thirds of their revenues internationally also estee lauder, 70% intel, 78% priceline.com, around 84%, 85% numont mining, almost all of it international. on the flip side, check out these companies because a whole slew of them within the s&p 500 get almost all if not all of their revenues domestically. chesapeake energy on the natural gas side, 100% of all revenues here domestically. nordstrom and u.s. bank, 100% of their revenues, and kroger 100% as well. around a quarter of the s&p 500 is all 100% revenue focused on america. certainly some names to watch on both ends. either insulated from dollar moves or perhaps a little more susceptible to them. back over to you. >> dom, thank you very much. we'll see you a little later. let's talk about who wins and loses from a weak dollar joining us, tom essay from the sevens report. good to see you. this is a situation where the government will talk up the dollar but, you know, the strong dollar is in the best interest of the united states at the same time, a lower dollar benefits the companies that they are trying to support right now, those multinational exporters who benefit from the lower dollar and it helps our trade deficit. you can't have it both ways. they tried to, i guess, right? >> you're right. there's unfortunately no clear-cut answer to the question, is a strong dollar good for america or is a weak dollar good for america? a strong dollar certainly benefits some aspects of america. we import the vast majority of our goods in america so, consumers certainly feel it when the dollar weakens in terms of rising prices the u.s. has a massive current account deficit and we depend on foreign investment, foreign capital flows into the u.s. to fund that deficit. so, we need a strong and stable dollar to continue to encourage foreign investment into the u.s. it's also true that a weaker dollar helps corporate america, by and large, especially larger companies that you report on and the s&p. so, large companies tend to benefit. small to medium size companies, where my firm operates, not so much they prefer a stronger dollar. >> can be tricky for the consumer, too. i want to draw your attention to what's happening in the dollar right now. even after the president just came out and said it's going to get stronger and stronger, we're barely in positive territory on the dollar index, which now i'm going to ask you, how weak is this thing >> you know, it's pretty weak. it's been a substantial move, especially in the currency markets to started the year. when you consider economic growth in the u.s. is as strong as it's been in years, we're expecting at least three fed rate hikes the fact we're talking about an 88 handle on the dollar is a bit shocking and it shows you just how much momentum there is in this market. really what people need to focus on in the currency markets right now isn't so much what the u.s. is doing, even what the treasury secretary is doing it's what the bank of japan and european central bank are doing because the dollar is trading lower. euro and yen getting stronger on the anticipation of less accommodation from those central banks. that's the real driver of the dollar today >> i mean, tom, we're at a three-year low for the dollar index for the most part. do you see it going much lower from here? >> there's so much momentum in this market. you know, you want to sell things making lower lows so we could see a bit more of a decline, but at some point fundamentals matter, right it would still appear we're the fastest growing developed economy in the world the fed is more likely going to be more hawkish than less hawkish this year. so, is there value in the dollar near these levels? i think over the longer term, yes. >> how much do you expect political rhetoric to push the dollar around here, relative to everything else? >> it's surprising how it's become such an issue again in the last couple of days. it's a little head-scratcher to see the treasury secretary's comments and then the president dialing those comments back a little bit so, i think perhaps we might see a little lull here we saw a similar kind of effect around other global forums, whether it was at the u.n. or whether it was at the g-10 last year we saw this kind of protectionist rhetoric, this america first, weaker dollar kind of rhetoric come to the forefront of those summits and gatherings as well i suspect if recent history is any indication, we'll see a little lull here i agree with your other guest that we'll eventually see probably sooner rather than later fundamentals come back into the picture and i think provide a little floor for the dollar >> gentlemen, thank you both thanks for your thoughts on the dollar today >> thank you we have are 50 minutes to go still. dow is up 61 the russell has been hit harder by the weak dollar small caps are down four points. but the broad market, the big companies, the s&p also down the transports are down nearly 200. we'll keep an eye on all of this as we 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also announced three board members are resigning. the stock is down 21.5% right now. >> big president trump arriving in davos today for the world economic forum a few minutes ago we showed you what he just said to our joe kernen about the dollar, but the two also spoke about the president's views on trades. >> i like bilateral because if you have a problem, you terminate. when you're in with many companies, like tpp, 12 if we were in, you don't have that same -- you know, you don't have that same option somebody asked me the other day, would i do tpp here's my answer i'll give you a big story. i would do tpp if we had a much better deal than we had. the deal was a horrible deal nafta was a horrible deal. we're renegotiating it i may terminate. i may not. i went around and tell stadiums full of people - >> you may re-enter -- are you opening the door to reopening tpp? >> i would do tpp if we were able to make a substantially better deal. the deal was terrible. the way it was structured was terrible if we did a substantially better deal, i would be open to tpp. >> well, you can catch more of that interview tomorrow, 6:00 a.m. eastern time on "squawk box. joining us right now with their thoughts on the president's talk about trade and the dollar, jimmy, cnbc contributor from the american enterprise institute and jared bernstein, also a cnbc contributor from the center on budget and policy priorities good to see you both jimmy, is this part of the negotiations, you think, the president opening the door to multilateral trade agreements when in the past he said he only wants bilateral and fair trade agreements for the united states >> i think the problem with putting, i think, an optimistic spin on those comments is that all these trade ministers from asian countries are looking at what's going on in with nafta right now, where they see it's been a complete fiasco it's close to collapse the administration has made unreasonable demands even in that interview, the president failed to make a substantive critique of the pacific trade deal the way he judges these trade deals fund mentally, if there's a deficit, it's a bad deal that's hindering them with nafta and the pacific trade deal, which has sort of moved on without the united states. >> jared, how do you think the public would react if the u.s. ultimately joined the transpacific partnership >> well, certainly not just trump's base but a lot of people on the democratic side would be unhappy if it weren't a very different deal now, i kind of agree with jimmy. when donald trump says the structure of the tpp was terrible, i really don't know what he means in terms of what would be less terrible what does he want? does he want to get rid of the intellectual protection, rights of origin, currency controls these 12-current agreements are multidimensional chests and it's very complicated yeah, if he were to say, i'm signing onto the same old tpp he would engender a lot of discontent that's not what he's saying. if he says, i want to sign onto a different one, what difference are you talking about? >> he's open to the idea of a multidlarl agreement the problem is the other multilateral agreement is not goingwell. until it says exactly what he wants from these deals, what would get him to yes, then it's just rhetoric. >> i kind of think - >> well, go ahead, jared. >> i think jimmy made a fundamental point that i don't want to lose i think for donald trump what really matters is if there's a negative sign in front of your trade balance with the united states if there is, he's unhappy. if there isn't, he likes it. any trade deal, any negotiation that doesn't have america end up with a positive trade balance is one that's going to make him unhappy. by the way, his comments about a strong dollar are actually kind of inconsistent with the rest of his program. >> i can remember a time when treasury secretaries and presidents would attend gatherings like this and they would get an earful from their trading partners about the strong dollar and the impact it was happening on trade do you think to some degree the clarification by mnuchin about his view of the dollar had something to do with some trade partners saying, you know, you got to worry about this weak dollar, especially when you consider the increase in tariffs that they fear may be coming, jimmy? >> listen, here's what you have to be prepared for if you're a trade partner with the united states that this will not be the last time you get whip-sawed probably by the with the president or treasury secretary or somebody else in the administration the president's impulse is obviously toward that he thinks a weak dollar is good, he likes low interest rates he has certain impulses he'll talk about i realize it was mnuchin this time obviously, the president has talked about this in the past and he'll walk it back so, i think what you have to expect is volatility >> jimmy, is the transpacific partnership a fixed document right now? what's in it or is the whole thing flexible and can it be -- can the terms be determined by the u.s.? >> yeah, i mean, again, they've moved on the other nations are coming up with a document, so the u.s. would have to come in at a later date, renegotiate what was already a very lengthy negotiation process and change it how i mean, the president wanted to update nafta that's what the pacific trade deal did it updated nafta so, i am not all clear -- as jared said earlier what the president would want other than a trade surplus that's not going to happen from these deals. that is not something you can negotiate into a deal. >> the you know, jared, i wonder how much of a position of strength the u.s. files like it has right now going into davos here after the tax cut and the impact it seems to be having on major corporations and now the talk of all the repatriation of cash that's going to come back to the united states here and how that helps strengthen the president's talk of trying to come up with fair trade agreements with some of these trading partners >> you know, it's a great question i think they're kind of two different audiences when it comes to davos one is kind of multinational ceos from around the world and they're all going to be figuring out how this plays out for them. i think for the american multinationals, the tax dleel is very favorable my understanding is that trump is being, you know, kind of warmly welcomed by global ceos i think trade ministers have a much bigger problem. you see that with this little dollar up and down i think it's a real microcosm what we saw. the lack of clarity that you're always going to get from the trump administration, whether it's fuzziness on what they really want in a trade agreement or where they want the dollar to be or where trump wants interest rates to be. it's all going to be very confusing relative to past u.s. positions that have been much more clear >> jared, just before we go, you mentioned that if the presidepresident or the u.s. did join the tpp, democrats would be unhappy what specific provisions would they be unhappy about? >> precisely the same ones they were unhappy about last time intellectual protections, much more protectionist than free trade. the investor state dispute part where sovereign governments really get undermined by these tribunals. no chapter on currency management i think those would be the real big sticking points, the absence of that last chapter on currency in particular and the isds that's something progressives really don't like. not just here, in europe as well >> jimmy, anything you think would go down poorly with the republicans? >> the republicans are very confused right now, what they think about trade. you know, they don't know if it's a good thing, they don't know if it's a bad thing they're confused about nafta again, they're kind of like the president. if you ask them how they would like to have the pacific trade deal changed to be more friendly, i'm not sure you would get -- certainly not a single unified answer maybe many different answers >> all right guys, thank you. jimmy, jared bernstein. adding to the close, 38 minutes left in the trading session, the dow is strengtheni strengthening. we were up 90 points a moment ago. the s&p, the nasdaq, the russell all fractionally lower. starbucks shares have been basically flat in the past year. coming up, a debate on whether the coffee giant's earnings, due after the bell, can heat up the stock. first, one wall street firm becoming the ultimate amazon bull after significantly hiking its target price we'll have those details when we come back. obvious. sometimes, they just drop in. cme group can help you navigate risks and capture opportunities. we enable you to reach global markets and drive forward with broader possibilities. cme group - how the world advances. ♪ the dow is up more than 100 points and the dollar is weaker, just slightly. it's been a roller coaster afternoon here here are the sectors of the s&p 500. utility leading the way of 1.5%. interest rates took a step back. health care is up there, too on the flip side of things, real estate is and energy are lower energy hurt a little by the move down in crude. >> i bet the utilities went to the top of the list after interest rates started to move lower when the dollar went higher all these things -- this interrelationship going on today. meanwhile, amazon shares have been higher after d.a. davidson raised the target on the stock to $1800 up from $1500 because of strength in the cloud business that's a 33% increase from its closing price of wednesday it's also the higher target price for any firm covering amazon, which is up 1.1% today they're playing, can you top this on wall street right now. amazon shares up more than 60% in the past year. >> i can't do the math in my head that quickly, but i'm wondering at $1800 what its market cap would be for -- >> does that put it over the top? i don't think it does, to the trillion. >> it would be close >> close. >> to give a sense of how big a number that really is. just about 30 minutes to go to the close the dow is up 110 now. go figure. >> another one of those days where we see a stronger market going into the close here. it will be interesting to see what the close orders are. >> airlines grounded despite the broad market rally today find out why those carriers are under pressure and if this is a buying opportunity. can starbucks brew up a comeback we have a bull/bear debate later on "closing bell." my experience with usaa has been excellent. they always refer to me as master sergeant. they really appreciate the military family, and it really shows. we've got auto insurance, homeowners insurance. had an accident with a vehicle, i actually called usaa before we called the police. usaa was there hands-on very quick very prompt. i feel like we're being handled as people that actually have a genuine need. we're the webber 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management agency thus far. we are disappointed, however, that one key employee, the person who transmitted the false alert, is refusing to cooperate with our investigation >> fascinating. fighting intensifying in yemen today following saudi-led coalition air strikes on rebel-held locations in the southwest of that country. more than 10,000 people have been killed. more than 2 million displaced since the fighting began in march 2015. egypt moving the ancient colossus of the famed pharaoh ramses ii to a museum under construction near the country's famed pyramids outside cairo this is taking place amid great fanfare. it dates back some 3300 years. that's the cnbc news update at this hour. back to you folks. >> thank you, ty see you later. >> tyler, thank you. let's see, how about a quick check of the markets dow is up 103. s&p slightly lower transports down 182. weakness in trains and airplanes there as we head into the close. >> and i apologize for talking over the two-box again joining our "closing bell" exchange right now, here at post nine, chris with region atlantic, he's the chief investment officer there peter costa of empire executions is the president of said company. east at post nine as well. rick santelli holds no executive positions at the cme in chicago. thank you for joining us today chris, i'm going to start with you, the dollar. there was a time when, you know, you could -- all things went back to the dollar, you know, whether it was a move in interest rates or the equity market or gold or whatever it is is that still the case right now in your view bearing in mind what the president said today about wanting a stronger dollar. >> the dollar is extremely important. because if we -- if we have a weaker dollar, then that means that something that i'm looking out for, inflation may spike up in 2018 because if we have a weaker dollar, it will cost us more to buy the foreign goods we buy. >> the reason i ask, though -- the dollar index has been setting lows, three-year lows right now, but yet the inflationary implications are lost in the treasury markets because interest rates have been multiyear low as well. >> right so, that's -- so, that's where you have -- to get a stronger dollar, we've got to increase rates. that will -- that will keep the dollar going so, what this really spells out to me, it's trouble for bond investors. either way you go, bond investors are not going to be happy. if we have a weak dollar and inflation is there, bond investors aren't happy you have rising rates and long-term bond investors aren't going to be happy. that's my biggest fear, for bond investors in this dollar market. >> rick, you want to speak to that >> well, everything chris says make sense i mean, if we purchase less, that's why a strong dollar, a strong currency for any country, if you think about it from the people standpoint, it's always the best thing they can buy the most so, if we're buying less and europe's buying more, the euro may have less of an inflation problem, the u.s. may have more. with regard to interest rates, the pieces don't align right monetary policies put everything in kind of a shakeup snowglobe sort of fashion. everything is mixed up what chris said should make sense, right here we sit one basis point under the high yield of 2017 while the dollar continues to fall 102.20 for 2016. we're down 14% from that even though there was a bounce today because of the verbiage attached to it, that could be written off as an ekt doelgts with a lot of the computer programs that trade off news headlines. in the end, i think the dollar will stay on the weaker side the euro will stay on the stronger side. interest rates will move up. i think the problem still lies in europe and japan. i think europe will have a big problem because they are way behind buying the insurance they need with respect to raising rates and dramatically reducing the balance sheet. but i think the further we get in this process and the more central banks that go in a less stimulative direction, it's at that time i think chris will see that the relationship gets more back to normal and interest rates will rise more rapidly >> and, peter, of course, a lower dollar, as it continues lower, has not hurt the equity markets as we continue to set records. >> not at all. and i think some of that -- i think there is european money moving into the u.s. based on the fact they can buy more with the euro in the u.s. so, i think there is some european investment coming in. it's been going on for probably about three or four months i don't think that's the reason the market is up where it is but i think it's an underpinning. >> what about the dow, the outperformer relative to the other averages is it a quirk of earnings led by boeing, but 3m, some results there. what do you think about that >> my bigger concern is the divergence between the transports and industrials i know that's old school we've gone over this before. >> it's so important, though. >> i think it is still important. even though the one index may not carry as much weight as the other, having that kind of divergence when you see yesterday and today, to me -- all right, granted, it was earnings-related, but earnings don't -- they don't hit the transport market that hard i think there's something more going on here. i think that divergence will show up -- >> at the airlines were hit yesterday. united airlines was going to -- opening up new routes here and starting a fare war. >> there was reasons behind it, but it -- is it 190 points on the -- you know, on the transports 190 today? that's a lot of movement on the downside. >> where do you see us with the equity market now as we keep setting these records? >> i think there's still more to go it's tough to say where it's going to end bull markets don't die of old age. so far there's nothing really out there that is a big enough concern to end this rally. >> even with inflation and rates and the fed. that's a whole - >> that's still to come. >> that's the main thing out there. watching all those central banks, see what they do. guys, thank you. we have a news alert now on cbs and viacom eric with those details. >> reuters is reporting that the ceos of both companies, cbs and viacom have met and discussed a possible merger. in is a step further than we talked about, about combining those two companies back together the boards are scheduled to meet on a regular basis it appears the next time they meet, they will bring up this merger discussion as well again. in is being reported by reuters that cbs and viacom, their ceos have discussed possible ideas about merging the companies together again back to you guys >> do they even need to leave the building to meet, those two companies? >> i know that viacom building but i don't -- but cbs is separate. >> blackrock. >> yeah. anyway, that was -- we can show the shares again up about 1%. they priced in a lot of this already as these reports have been dribbling out, including david faber's over the last couple of weeks. >> we know it's going to happen. when the redstone family wants it to happen, it will happen. >> i guess it's about les moonves, not that he could say no entirely. >> he'll end up running the entire company anyway. >> viacom up 2.5%. cbs up 1%. >> i bet bitcoin is on that one. >> people don't think bitcoin has any value. >> you're right. 22 minutes left. the dow up 127 points with other major averages in negative. ahead, speaking of bitcoin, it has become the buzz word at davos this year, surprise surprise, as leaders weigh in on the cryptocurrency we'll tell you why that may not be good for bitcoin bulls. starbucks shares have gone virtually nowhere over the past year can today's earnings provide a jolt we'll provide that when the "csi bl"om rhtaclongel cesig bk. most etfs only track a benchmark. flexshares etfs are built around the way investors think. with objectives like building capital for the future, managing 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[ click, keyboard clacking ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ click, keyboard clacking ] ♪ good questions lead to good answers. our advisors can help you find both. talk to one today and see why we're bullish on the future. yours. welcome back with the rally rebuilding on wall street, the dow up 117 points have you to be specific talking about the rally because the other major averages continue to be slightly lower than nasdaq, the weakest down 12. new meantime, tobacco stocks are under a lot of pressure today after an fda advisory panel said there is no evidence to support the claim by philip morris international that its smokeless tobacco device is less harmful than cigarettes. surprise, surprise, bitcoin has become a buzz word at davos this year. that's not necessarily a good thing for crypto investors seema mody joins us with more on that. >> both u.s. treasury secretary steve mnuchin and imf managing director christine lagarde understood the benefits of the currency but turned to the risks, which include lack of transparency. >> my number one focus on cry o cryptocurrencies and whether that be digital currencies, bit coins or other things, is that we want to make sure they're not used for illicit activities. so, in the united states our regulations, if you're a bitcoin wallet, you're subject to the same regulations as a bank. >> i totally agree with what he was saying about the fact that the am anymorenonymity, the lac transparency and the way it conceals and protects money laundering and dark trades is unacceptable >> blackrock ceo larry fink joined the discussion, which was moderated by cnbc, calling cryptocurrency an index of money laundering despite the risks, fink said cryptocurrencies is a really technology that should not be dismissed. guys, that was the big takeaway of these major names in finance are no longer ignoring the rise of cryptocurrencies. instead they're focused on the regulatory component no concrete ideas on how this will be done kelly? >> thank you, seema. seema mody meantime, the nfl is about to get some new/old competition. eric has more. >> that's right, kelly new, old, however you want to say that, it's the xfl coming back vince mcmahon, the chairman of wwe, he announced today officially that he's bringing the xfl back he went back and got his old trademarks and investing $100 million of his own money not money from the wwe company but vince mcmahon's own money into this league he spoke with media a few minutes ago and answered a lot of questions one thing connecting football and politics here's what he had to say. >> as far as our league is concerned, it will have nothing to do with politics. absolutely nothing and nothing to do with social issues either. we're there to play football >> players like colin kaepernick would be welcome, but players like johnny manziel because they have criminal records, they would not be welcome in his league he said this would be a january or february start, start in the year 2020. he has a couple years to work on it it would be about eight teams, ten games with playoffs and championships. no word on broadcast partners, streaming partners he did say it would be a quicker league, a faster league and they would work on those media partners in the next couple of years. back to you guys >> wow >> so, what am i missing here? eric, this is your area. so, we've had a 10% decline in ratings for the nfl this year, maybe because there's too much football on the air. there may be nfl that tefatigue on what was vince mcmahon thinking? >> that was one of the questions asked. he said, if i do this in january and february and do this when all other football leagues are ending, i have an opportunity in seven months of the year when there is no football he thinks there's enough demand across the country that he can get people to watch. if the rules are better, the game is quicker, only two hours, he thinks people will watch that. >> i support it being quicker. i know we have to go the "30 for 30" documentary covers a lot of this the nfl has changed a lot of ways to develop the pioneering things the xfl was going to do. >> like the ska cam and rules adjustments, but you watch the game, it takes a lot of time there's replays, time-outs he said there will be no halftime maybe that will move it up and want have such a slow pace of play. >> we'll see if the nfl copies him again. thanks, eric did you watch the xfl, the original almost 20 years ago >> i actually had a relative who coached that -- in that league. >> really? >> yeah. >> but, no, i didn't >> sounds like a future guest. 13 minutes to go to the close. dow is up 132 points s&p is barely positive transports and down. nasdaq and russell are lower. starbucks are hoping the earning report this afternoon provides a pick-me-up for that stock. airline stocks seeing another day of turbulence as a number of major carriers report earnings is an airline fare war coming up we'll ask an airline ceo coming up let's get started. show of hands. who wants customizable options chains? ones that make it fast and easy to analyze and take action? how about some of the lowest options fees? are you raising your hand? good then it's time for power e*trade the platform, price and service that gives you the edge you need. alright one quick game of rock, paper, scissors. 1, 2, 3, go. e*trade. the original place to invest online. boy, there goes the market again. art cashin says it shows an imbalance to the buy side of $500 million with the dow up 127. i was just looking you mention the boeing was the big gainer, 3m, j&j, and goldman sachs up 1%. apple is down 2% imagine what the dow would be doing if apple were not down 2%. it's one of the high priced stocks. >> that's a great point. we're seeing divergence between the dow and the other but the s&p slightly positive. the russell slightly positive now, too. starbucks set to report after the bell and investors hope the results can give a little jolt to the stock it's been a laggard. kate rogers with a preview. >> the street is looking for eps of 50 cents on revenues of $6.2 billion. same store sales growth is estimated to come in at 3.3 h% globally the coffee company opened its shanghai reserve roastery and plans to open two more in milan and new york this year analysts looking to see how streamlined operations will affect it's bottom line. it planned to close more tevana retail locations investors hoping to hear about the tax rate will affect them. we will hope to hear more on the call later today back over to you. >> thanks. we'll see you next hour. in the meantime, is starbucks a buy or sell. nicole, what do you think? we mentioned earlier, starbucks has been pretty flat for the past year. what's the next catalyst for you? >> the catalyst is this management team setting its track record the comp is very important they have less disruption this year so we're looking for 3% in the americas we're also excited to see the p&l in china finally, the channel development business so, everything they're doing in the grocery store is a very powerful model and something we think is very undervalue >> eric, you think the stock has room to fall >> i look at the fundamentals. you have a company that has decreased earning growth there's no question. the stock's been flat up until, perhaps, this most recent run. but it's matched with the market the comparable same store sales they're, you know, 3%, what used to be 6% from 2013 to 2015 management just -- they totally missed projections at the end of 2016 they had to revise them. and you're going into this environment, this retail environment. it's ugly in retail today. i mean, there's no question. and there's been a lot of insider sales. so, that's a big flag for me, too. all the reasons i don't like it. to me, it's decaffeinated as a stock. >> what about the tax cut. goldman has estimated their savings this year will be about $425 million and they are upgrading the pay and the benefits for their workers couldn't that be a boost for them going down the road >> look, i think it's great they're updating pay and i think it's great for the country, certainly, but i don't think it will have a material difference for the stock in terms of its growth i really don't i think that -- i just don't see it, no >> what about this issue, they used to post 6% same store sales growth in the u.s., now 3% is that the main issue for this stock? >> i think it is when we look at earnings and we look at the stock on a quarterly basis outside of that, i think that they can start to get credit for other things they're doing, china in particular, channel development. it's a -- drinking of coffee is very habitual and they need to get back into a cycle of what the new innovation is, how they market that and how they get the customer back more often and how they attach food to that sale. >> we'll see how the numbers look when they report next hour. nicole miller, art schiffer, thank you for your thoughts today. with the dow up 127 points, here we go again we have the closing countdown coming your way in a moment. >> after the bell we'll get another exclusive look at cnbc's interview with president donald trump. sissorbcfit ing cn, rsin bune wldwide nobody's putting their money into equities. they're not investing in commodities or fixed income. what people are really putting their money into is what they hope to get out of life. but helping them get there requires a real refusal to settle for average. because when you approach investing with a tireless desire to beat the status quo, something wonderful can happen. those people might just get what they wanted out of life. or maybe even more. your insurance on time. tap one little bumper, and up go your rates. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? 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>> well, you know, when we were up so much early on today, underneath the surface it was so much different because there was a lot of anxiety about earnings and the reaction to earnings >> even caterpillar. >> look, caterpillar was fine, texas instruments was fine the reaction is -- the news. everyone saw the news so that was a little uneasiness. >> why is that was there anything -- was it just -- were expectations too high was it just reflecting the market backdrop? >> all of them are up huge all of those - >> the dow was up 3,000 points since thanksgiving. >> led by technology and industrials. so, i get that look, union pacific, that wasn't fine there were some issues there i'll give you that, down 5% for the day. probably should have been. under the surface there was a lot more concern and just wondering what was going on as opposed to this triple-digit rally. >> we saw in the first week of earnings, a little beat and all this excitement and momentum behind it. quickly on the transports, union pacific, as stephanie mentioned, was down 5%. some airlines didn't look so hot after earnings jetblue, for example, following the action we saw there yesterday. what do you think the message is here >> first of all, i think what mike said is a really great point. people have to remember the dow is up 3,000 points since thanksgiving so, any time you have a breather or you have stocks retracing, perhaps past trading patterns, where there is some concern that perhaps earnings maybe won't be as great as everyone thinks, i think it's a perfectly normal sort of pause in the market. we've gotten to a point here, kelly, that a pause in the market on an underlying basis feels like a down day now. that's how crazy things have become i think at this point, i think mike's right, you ignore what happened on the top line in terms of the number on the dow on the underlying basis, we basically have a flat day. >> you had a fun metric, too we should have put you up on the screen for this one. talk to us about this ratio that could be a sell sign. >> looking at how much stocks have outperformed bonds in the last little while. i mean, it's been the trend for quite a while now, but you see it's at the upper end even in terms of the up-end in terms of how stocks of the s&p 500 have done compared to long-term treasury does that matter no there's a lot of chatter, you will have these mechanical action by pension funds who like to keep a certain portfolio mix. it will tell them to trim back on stocks, maybe buy bonds will that cap yields and take steam out of stocks or is that already happening? perhaps. i don't think that's the kind of action that, first of all, always happens like clock work at the end of the month, like a lot of people talk about but it is -- it is something you might see as an occasion for a little reshuffling. >> fair enough we have intel earnings out now looks like a pretty good beat. let's have josh run us through with the numbers >> intel reporting eps of $1.08 versus expectations of 86 cents. a beat that. revenue $17.1 billion, also a beat the street was looking for about $16.3 billion. gross margin, kelly, 64.8% the dividend is hiked by about 10%. turning to the guidance, though, kelly, they're looking for q1 guidance of 5 cents. the street was at 72 cents on revenue, $15 billion plus or minus $500 million they say the street was at $15.3 billion. in line there. on the call a lot of focus will be on meltdown and spectre, those two big security vulnerabilities. a lot of attention on whatever commentary the ceo can give on that call begins at 5:00 p.m. eastern. >> thank you shares popping more than 2%. what do you think? >> this is one of the stocks that hasn't participated in the rally we were talking about of all the great stocks since thanksgiving this is down 10% relative to its peers. year to date it's down 3% from its high i think that there are a lot of question marks about the security issue what's going on with intel, you have a new cfo, a lot they can do in terms of cost-cutting. they have a new product cycle. they have some places seeing growth like data center. pcs are not so bad, not so good but not so bad and a stock trading at 14 times earning with a decent yield. you can wrap it around saying low expectations, a decent report so you get a little bounce which is so opposite of what we talked about with lamb, which were up so much. >> and then had a big decline. intel is only up 1.5%. they're boosting the dividend. what do you make of it all >> well, i think that's exactly what we should expect is going to happen to these type companies that will have huge benefits from tax reform or tax cuts technology companies in particular are going to see a significant benefit from tax relief the increase in dividend is not a surprise as stephanie mentioned, there are some challenging issues related to this company. certainly the security concern will be highlighted on the earnings call. in the end is the technology space growing? yes. will intel capture some of that space? yes. will intel get a tailwind? yes, given tax cuts. >> we'll circle back to this first, we want to hit starbucks results. earnings are out how do they like >> this is a mixed first quarter. the street was looking for 54 cents on eps this came in at 58 cents adjusted -- this was a slight miss $6.07 billion. comp store sales a real mix here they mixed across the board. global up 2% the street was looking for a gain of 3.4% in the u.s. also increase, 2% for same store sales the street was looking for a gain of 3.2% emea was supposed to increase by 1.7% that fell by 1% in the quarter china very important to starbucks. they were looking for an increase of 2.1% this only grew by 1% they also added they increased their active starbucks rewards members by 1.4 million people during the quarter that's also an important metric for them and starbucks is down now by 3.5% back over to you. >> there's a lot to die gust what were you saying was down 1% >> down 1% was emea, comp store sales. they were looking for an increase of 1.7% that's a miss for sure. >> thank you very much the shares are down 3.5% kevin johnson will weigh in on these results in a cnbc exclusive interview tomorrow on "squawk on the street" around 9:00 a.m. eastern. what do you think? >> it's still not a stock valued for missing comps. it's a mid-20s - >> not missing that much. >> exactly they're trying to figure it out. they're trying to get answers to traffic questions and all the rest of it this quarter was supposed to be earnings of 60 cents as of june 30th now the estimate went down to 57 they came in at 58 so, they're earning less than you were expecting seven months ago. the stock is in the same place it's trying to find its way and i don't think there's a clear vision to exactly how you get there in the next couple of quarters. >> the stock is up 13% since july everyone thought that, you know, the horse was behind them, the consumer is strong and all that stuff, right >> right >> the consumer is strong but there's a lot of competition and doing a 2% comp in the u.s. when guide was 3% to 5% comp, that's disappointing. >> coming out of a retail environment for q4 that a lot of the companies that sold off did well starbucks wasn't sold off but they're not getting much benefit of the doubt. >> that's the point. consumer datapoints have been good and this stock rallied into that, up 13% as these data points were coming i can see why it's pulling back. to your point, it's not cheap. it's expensive you still have these competitive issues that really won't go away with a two comp in the u.s it won't. >> michael, what are your thoughts as starbucks is now dropping 3.5%? >> this is obviously a growth name that's basically turning into a mature company. and they're trying desperately to find growth that's what shanghai roastery is about and starbucks preserve strategy they have, to roll out a more premiere offering, to try to capture higher dollars when people come in it's essentially in my view a pretty mature stock. the multiples are in the 20s it's a little tough to see how this is a growth stock i think they're trying, but really the underlying core business feels like it's very mature. >> especially if i heard kate right, she said -- the street was expecting their comps in china to grow 2.1% and only grew 1% >> that's disappointing. >> that's supposed to be the marquee next area for them, they have challenges as well. following shares of cbs had ended up slightly and viacom up 1.5% after news of merger talks. reuters reporting both companies are expected to discuss aid potential merger at the next board meeting. let's bring in brian for a little more on what this means to these companies there's been so much speculation. what is your base case of what happens with these two companies getting together >> yeah, it's hard to say, frankly. it's always been something of an inevidentability they could go together because of the common control. at the same time, the issue has always been whether les moonves could be persuaded to do it. ultimately if you're him, it's probably more in your interest to position your company for a sale to someone else rather than being saddled, for lack of a better word, with viacom the question is what makes it in his interest to pursue something? >> what do you think about that? >> there's a certain sense of destiny around this as basically partners kind of get together elsewhere. i don't know if it makes it more attractive because it's in the family and you have this common owner trying to orchestrate this thing or not i do think the game is, get enough scale so you can concentrate on the networks better positioned, have the studio manufacture content in house and all the rest i don't know what at what price that makes sense. >> these legacy companies are trying to do anything to find growth comcast reported a great the stock was up, down, they didn't announce a buyback that was big enough because they're giving -- they're giving themselves some dry powder to figure out maybe they want to do some sort of m&a this year i applaud that and i applaud these companies trilg to figure it out because it's challenging. the landscape has changed so quickly. >> the fact murdoch has everybody sitting back and going, wow, okay >> absolutely. >> how different is this environment? brian, do you think that's a catalyst here? >> i think it's concentrated many joinz minds i think that if you're -- again, if you're moonves, you're thinking, no, potentially there's others who might be interested in cbs. if you're redstone you might think, i'm not giving up control any time soon. the conventional wisdom is that scale matters. by the way, i think it's possible you can succeed without scale, but let's just go with the assumption that everyone believes you need scale, therefore, you pursue it and so, yeah, i think it's contributed to the current environment. >> and, michael, what are your -- what's your take on this do you think this will be a good thing, before we go? >> well, hon list, i don't know if it would be a good thing. i know these companies are desperate to figure out, how do they compete against a netflix juggernaut how do they compete against this new landscape? they're desperately looking for new ways to do that. disney is taking proactive action, whether cbs/viacom together will make a difference. it's hard for me to see how, but what else are they going to do otherwise they'll sit around and get killed by their competitors. >> brian, thanks for joining us with the latest on cbs and viacom there meantime, let's circle back to the earnings we have big movers in intel and starbucks. starbucks is still lower kate rogers has more. >> we wanted to give you an update on their guidance they raised this for full year 2018 but it is consistent with what they previously guided. they're saying adjusted eps should come in at $2.48 to $2.53 above the previous estimate of $2.39. they're saying they're raising this because of tax reform but it's consistent with what they previously guided. we also wanted to reiterate, they have 3% to 5% comps for the full year of 2018. and also just an update on those comp store sales china, asia-pacific, that's up 1% for the quarter but china in particular up 6% once again, that's a very, very important metric for starbucks something important to watch the stock is falling by around 3%. >> that's really important so, i mean, i wonder if people breathe a little sigh of relief. the market has digested this the way they're going to digest this but china up 6% is much better than -- the whole asia region is up 1%. weakness in europe, a decline in comps there. we kind of go back to the drop of 3% for stock after hours. stephanie they said, 3% to 5% growth is what they want for so in my mind, i'm going to go back, rejig the model and have lower expectations and i think the stock could probably sit here as a result of that, as people kind of work through, okay, what are they really growing at and where is the growth driver? i think china is phenomenal for this company but it's still very small in the grand scheme of things in terms of total revenues for the company. >> thank you stephanie, michael joining us to talk about these earnings and so much more of the news today. thank you. we'll keep monitoring the movers. much more ahead on the "closing bell. >> announcer: coming up -- airlines in freefall we'll tell you why the carriers are losing altitude for the second straight day and whether there's more turbulence ahead. and we'll have another exclusive look at president voump's sitdown with cnbc in das. stick around "closing bell" will be right back fees? what did you have in mind? i don't know. $4.95 per trade? uhhh and i was wondering if your brokerage offers some sort of guarantee? guarantee? where we can get our fees and commissions back if we're not happy. so can you offer me what schwab is offering? what's with all the questions? ask your broker if they're offering $4.95 online equity trades and a satisfaction guarantee. if you don't like their answer, ask again at schwab. president trump arriving in davos for the world economic forum. sitting down with joe kernen, here is what he had to say about joe mnuchin's comments on the dollar today. >> i think they were taken out of context i read his exact statement i'll tell you where i stand, which ultimately is very important. number one, i don't like talking about it because, frankly, nobody should be talking about it it should be what it is. it should be based on the strength of the country. we are doing so well our country is becoming so economically strong again and strong in other ways, too, by the way, that the dollar is going to get stronger and stronger and ultimately, i want to see a strong dollar. >> well, that's some pretty candid remarks sure enough, the dollar reversed its losses the dollar was in the 88 range and then went positive after those comments let's bring in jason furman, along with jason johnson, former chief strategist for ted cruz's 2017 presidential campaign and our own economics reporter steve liesman. welcome, everybody jason johnson, i'll begin with you, what do you think about all this rhetoric about the dollar >> first of all, it's great to be on your show talking about the dollar when i was in government, the treasury would never let me talk about it i think the president's statement today was exactly right. secretary mnuchin made a mistake yesterday. he cleaned it up today and the dollar's not something that administration officials should be talking about. in fact, it's not something we should be worried about. we should be worried about getting the economic policies right, strengthening our economy and then the dollar will take care of itself >> mr. johnson, what do you think? >> well, i think politically speaking the president had no option but to do what he did i mean, here's a -- here was a candidate whose entire campaign was based upon strength, strength in every way. strength of the american economy, the american worker, america first, and in this case he needed to do what he did, which was to walk back secretary mnuchin's comments and talk about his preference for a strong u.s. dollar >> steve, it seems if nothing else, the market took the president's comments as a signal that there wasn't some kind of orchestrated kind of all points bulletin in the administration to go out and knock the dollar down and they took some heart in that i do wonder. the question, what could the administration even do if it chose to try and weaken the dollar those days are not with us when a government could even do that. >> that's important. all the talk about the dollar is a little overblown i think the president came forward and -- when you're treasury secretary, i think you get a piece of paper and it says, don't say anything but strong dollar. and it was kind of weird i know they talked about it before, but ultimately, you're right, there's not going to be and hasn't been for a very long time a concerted effort to weaken the dollar through administrative means other than, for example, what's done in terms of monetary policy which is reaction to the economy the u.s. is very committed in this regard. i don't understand why these -- the traders get so up in arms about these comments and then we, of course, feed into it when the market moves the way it did. it did a complete and pretty dramatic round trip today. ultimately you're right, there is no policy coming that will result in a concerted effort of the dollar through administrative means if you want to talk about the impact of trade, that's another story. >> jason, do you agree with that given the history of administrations who have either looked for and emphasized a weak or strong dollar >> absolutely. >> i don't think that -- i agree with steve is exactly right. i think there are moments when it can matter very dramatic moments, like 1985 with the plaza accord, smaller ones like the pressure we put on japan over their exchange rate i think there are times that it could matter you want a coordinated effort where your words are synched by lateral or bilateral actions and backed up by administration. here all you had were words and i have no idea why the market moved. the market evidently decided it had no idea why it moved and it moved back. >> mr. johnson, what were you going to say >> somewhat like a president and a cabinet secretary contradicting one another. the two jasons confused me there. nothing to add >> yeah, i was going to say, probably everybody's confused now. it is the two jasons and our own steve liesman. thank you for joining us jason furman, jason johnson. you can catch joe kernen's entire interview with president trump at 6:00 a.m. on "squawk box. semiconductor firm maxim reported after the bell. the increase individend by 17% on top of strong guidance. you're seeing the stock pop about 5% after hours back to you, kelly. >> thank you, eric maxim up 5%. airlines going the other way. not exactly taking flight again today. jetblue, american, southwest, all seeing their stocks hit after earnings we'll look at what's behind that turbulence government officials have been jockeying favor to land amazon's second headquarters we'll talk to a mayor of a city and saying amazon y mabe using up in what's goodwill in a pr-driven search roperty, like their car or home computer, to help them do their work. but they might not know that those items may need special insurance to protect against costly damage, theft, or liability on the job. trusted choice independent insurance agents represent multiple insurance companies and customize coverage so business owners can focus on business. announcer: to find an agent, visit trustedchoice.com like you do sometimes, grandpa? 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[ click, keyboard clacking ] [ keyboard clacking ] [ click, keyboard clacking ] ♪ good questions lead to good answers. our advisors can help you find both. talk to one today and see why we're bullish on the future. yours. shares of alaska air, american, southwest and jetblue all closing lower today. jetblue down 6%. alaska down 4 after yesterday's decline and that's after the first three reporting an earnings beat. america and southwest beat the numbers. jetblue did miss is this a sign of turbulence to come for the airline sector? joining us, ben, former spirit airline ceo and david berman, research analyst at bernstein. david, let me start with you because i know you're probably feeling these moves painfully the last couple of days. what's going on with the airline space? >> i think what's going on right now is not about what's actually happening today. it's about what investors are fearing is going to happen over the course of the next 12 to 24 months as more capacity is added in the network united has come out with more strategy to grow capacity faster than people thought. we haven't seen if the economy will grow into is that and we haven't seen if the strategy is going to be up to fares. >> doug parker spoke with phil lebeau earlier today and he basically said, just because they're expanding, you know, they might be adding capacity, going to new markets it's not necessarily just going to mean that everybody's pushing fares lower, david do you buy that? >> i think it's important to keep in mind here that where the capacity is going into the market is going to be secondary markets, at least on united's part those markets are going to be a smaller part of the market it's also important to know that when united goes out into some of these markets they'll be using lower gauge, higher cost aircraft going in with lower gauge, higher cost aircraft and strategy of cutting fares to fill it is never going to be successful we don't think that's necessarily the hope we think united is trying to carve off and collect back some share is that they have lost through prior management's reduction of service of some of these markets. i do think there is something to the idea that this isn't just about the aggregate headline number >> ben, let me ask you something specific i don't mean to put on you the spot i'm scratching my head about jetblue. maybe because i'm stuck in ten years ago when they were the fresh, hot, new kid on the block with all these great amenities and great ratings but they missed on earnings today they had really low passenger satisfaction numbers relative to their competitors last year. what's going on. >> they missed their estimates any time you miss, people will be surprised at what's happened. i think the underlying trends are still pretty good for the industry, but i agree with what was just said in that capacity is such a bugaboo for this industry and when you look at jetblue, who's focused in new york where there's a lot of competitors, delta, america, united, all with a lot of capacity there and up in boston, you can see how nervousness about capacity might affect concerns about their future earnings as well. >> it's notes -- capacity say big part of it, but those concerns are coming as you're seeing really pretty significant increases in labor costs, obviously fuel costs going up, too, so any of those things -- is it just exacerbated or does it say, well, maybe people won't be so aggressive on pricing because they can't be? >> right now, like i said, it's much more about sentiment. if you look at what united told you, they guided you to an earnings per share number higher than what the street was expecting for 2018 america did the same thing if you look at the guidance numbers southwest give you, you get to a pretty healthy number relative to what is in the consensus sell side forecast i think this is a lot about what the fear is going to happen about capacity growing in excess of demand and gdp and whether or not this is going to have a hugely destabilizing impact on the market as opposed to anything around near-term cost pressures. >> one thing that stuck out at me, southwest said when asked about tax reform and any savings, it said it would use those savings on planes. how important is it for the carriers right now to buy planes what are they looking for? it reminds me of david's point that if they're using high-cost planes, you know, it makes it harder for them to lower fares and not get hurt. >> david is right about that a lot depends if they're buying new planes to replace older, less fuel efficient planes or buy new planes to grow faster than the economy as the industry has been doing one thing i'd like to say is united has been a bit of an irrational actor over the last 12 months. i think their announcement of their capacity growth, even though it's in smaller markets, has made people quite skiddish they're the ones who have been propagating low fares and trying to go after the low-cost carriers now they're talking about growing. so, this sort of instability of their announcements, i think, has put investors a little bit on edge. might be a little different than, for example, if american or delta it made the same kind of announcement. >> fair enough more than a little on edge after the last couple of sessions. thank you for joining us the transport index was way down by those airlines dow transports down almost 200 points different picture for the industrials. blue chips were up 140 on the bell 3m, one of the better performers the s&p hung on to positive territory by two pints, same for the russell and the nasdaq was down three today let's check on names moving on earnings after the bell. intel and starbucks reported intel is up 4.5% right now starbucks still down more than 3% intuitive surgical, down 1.5%. time for cnbc news update. let's get over to tyler mathisen. >> thank you very much let's tell you what's happening right now. president trump sitting down for dinner earlier this evening. european time with european business leaders in davos, switzerland. guests include executives from siemen's they congratulated him on the tax cuts he recently signed into law. >> i just want to thank everybody. the receptivity we've had an the united states has had being here has been incredible sitting around this table are some of the greatest business leaders in the world some of the greatest companies in the world meantime, a senior palestinian official says peace is off the table if president trump insists on recognizing jerusalem as israel's capital in response to mr. trump's threat to withhold aid money to the palestinians until they return for peace talks. "the washington post" reports that the guggenheim museum turned down the trump's request to borrow a painting by vincent van gogh for their private living quarters. instead, the curator offered this, an 18 karat fully functioning solid gold toilet. critics have described the toilet as satire aimed at the excess of wealth in the country. i would call it a royal flush. that is the cnbc news update at this hour. sadly, i have to hand it back to you on that note >> yeah, i think the guggenheims should be flush with embarrassment on that move thank you. starbucks share sharply slower after a revenue mix up next, the "stfa money" traders tell us how they're trading this stock fire fighting is a very dangerous profession. we have one to two fires a day and when you respond together and you put your lives on the line, you do have to surround yourself with experts. and for us the expert in gas and electric is pg&e. we run about 2,500/2,800 fire calls a year and on almost every one of those calls pg&e is responding to that call as well. and so when we show up to a fire and pg&e shows up with us it makes a tremendous team during a moment of crisis. i rely on them, the firefighters in this department rely on them, and so we have to practice safety everyday. utilizing pg&e's talent and expertise in that area trains our firefighters on the gas or electric aspect of a fire and when we have an emergency situation we are going to be much more skilled and prepared to mitigate that emergency for all concerned. the things we do every single day that puts ourselves in harm's way, and to have a partner that is so skilled at what they do is indispensable, and i couldn't ask for a better partner. welcome back starbucks share lower 2.5% after hours. just reported earnings on the phone is r.j., who joins us from morning star r.j., you'll be on the call top of the hour. what are your questions? >> yeah, i think first and foremost is what's it going to take to get traffic going in the u.s. right now transaction growth was flat in the quarter. that comes down from the 1% we saw in the most previous quarter. that's front and center of most investors' mind. i think that's the first focus second is china. you know, that was a little disappointment 6% comp versus 8% last quarter this is a big quarter, they launched the shanghai roastery so there should have been a little more halo effect. i think it's still an overall growth story in that region but figure out what went down there. and then just refining what the growth plan longer term are for this company i still think it's an interesting allocation play but those are top of my questions. >> well, we will borrow them as we talk to our "fast money" guys r.j., we'll let you go thank you. let's bring in "fast money" traders steve grasso and guy steve, what do you think about the numbers, especially the miss on the comps and some of those points that r.j. was making? >> the hope was you were going to see china better. you were going to see the tax refo reform a little more beneficial here, you would see comp sales that were actually more beneficial to them let's remember, they have an effective 34% tax rate, so that is going to come down. if there's more money in consumers' pockets going forward -- i'm not talking backward-looking right now, but this stock has underperformed dunkin'. in the coffee space you still stay with dunkin', but i don't think it's lights out for starbucks. >> guy, a company with a growth stock multiple that's kind of struggled to kind of earn it for a little while now it reminds me, i was saying earlier, to nike for a while when the stock was sideways for a long period of time. great brand name needed to get things moving again. what do you want to hear to get confidence >> want to find out why they stumbled in china. you talked about it, you're talking about a stock that trades 23 times forward earnings with the next big growth driver being china. you can make the argument they're saturated here in the united states. we can have that debate. but if they are, in fact, growing in china, why are the numbers so disappointing they are disappointing numbers margins were lower and comps were lower what is the hangup in china and is that the growth engine down the road margins in europe were less than expected margins in the united states coming down. you have to ask yourself does 22 times forward earning the right number you see it's up 55 bucks. >> is dunkin' outcomping starbucks? >> i believe they are. check me on that, but for a while now in the coffee space, it has been dunkin'. if you go back further, something spelled a little bad in the coffee space. both were for sale seems like dunkin' has figured it out a lot better than starbucks has. >> appreciate it good stuff as always catch all the "fast money" action beginning at 5:00 p.m. eastern time today amazon has narrowed the field for its site for second headquarters, down to 20, but it's being secretive about the process. we'll hear from the mayors of ruin of the cities in nng and a critic who thinks it's not as democratic as it sounds (daniel jacob) for every hour that you're idling in your car, you're sending about half a gallon of gasoline up in the air. that amounts to about 10 pounds of carbon dioxide every week. 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>> just as amazon has algorithms and crawlers that go out, creating this sucking sound down, price of transferring brands to amazon, i believe they created an offline algorithm pitting cities from one another. i think amazon already knows where they want to be. and they're just creating this kind of hunger games environment to mature the best term sheet possible and then give it to the city's mayor where they want to be and ask him or her to match it, which will be irresistible >> scott, do you actually think that amazon's mode here is strictly to get maximum concessions from that city that, perhaps, they've already decided on, or was it to promote some kind of sense of goodwill out there, like we're going to create some teamwork attitude. some people have said the losing cities have a pitch book to attract other companies. maybe that's just too much of a bright side view, though. >> yeah, that's definitely, i think, a half-full view. i think they were genius in occupying the front page and lead of every story in business media, which they are great at doing. the reason amazon doesn't need to spend any money advertising is they're great at occupying old media's bandwidth. no, this is simply put, an incredibly deft calculation to extract, you know, several tons of flesh this is going to -- i mean, my prediction, simply put, i've been on the board of a dozen private and public companies that talk about a second headquarters and it ends up in one place, where the ceo wants to spend more time mr. bezos has a house in d.c. and new york your other guest said, if he's in d.c., he becomes less subject of regulation. the new headquarters will be in the metro area of new york or d.c. because that's where a 53-year-old man with $105 billion wants to spend more time these other cities it's ridiculous they entertain the notion, they produce a term sheet they go against. >> i was saying, this reminds me of lebron's decision, back when he was -- was he going back to the cavaliers or not and it was this whole media event and all this hoopla. anyway, professor, do you think people are seeing through this is this going to backfire on amazon? are seeing through this? is this going to backfire on amazon >> i think people are increasingly fed up with big tech the notion -- just think about this rationally, this is an individual who can do anything he wants, and he's probably going to have spend 60 to 120 days year at the second headquarters do you think he is going to want to end up in a city he doesn't want to be in because they offed more tax breaks? this decision has already been made frankly it's not reminisce end of henry ford who was more concerned with the commonwealth than adding a few extra bucks to the bottom line. >> henry ford. >> what was in a brazil thing he tried to do, ford landia do you know what he tried to do in brazil, henry ford, he cleared the rainforest we won't get into it we take your point, though and we'll see if any other companies try to follow suit thank you for your time. >> thank you. we are going to get another check on starbucks and intel ahead of their earning calls. on "fast money," the so-called bitcoin oracle returns and he will tell you what he sees next for the crypto marke hey, what are you guys doing here? 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>> the earnings beat on the top and the bottom line, but the more interesting part here, and this is why the stock may have dropped about 4% right after the bell they announced they were buying 1 million accounts from capital one. retail brokerage accounts worth $18 billion in assets. the stock dropped 4% it's starting to come back down 1 .5%, 2% on the screen that's the story on e trade. they beat on earnings but this big acquisition from capital one. >> it is a weird move. >> capital one bought a discount brokerage a couple of years ago. it's about that service. e trade is often considered a target itself. it changes the narrative if they are bulking up >> and they are down about 1.5% this afternoon and the calls for intel and starbucks will start in a upcole of minutes we will have another check on those stocks and what to listen for when we come back. tomorrow, it's a day filled with promise and new beginnings, challenges and opportunities. at ameriprise financial, we can't predict what tomorrow will bring. but our comprehensive approach to financial planning can help make sure you're prepared for what's expected and even what's not. and that kind of financial confidence can help you sleep better at night. with the right financial advisor, life can be brilliant. yes or no?gin. do you want the same tools and seamless experience across web and tablet? 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