Began to take on my life of being an interviewer even though i have a day job of running a private equity firm. How do you define leadership . How does it feel to get up in the morning another 300 million americans want to know the state of your health that day . How does it feel . Encouraging. Know,cancer survivors that disease is a challenge. It helps to know that people are rooting for you. It is not universal. When i had pancreatic cancer and 2009, there was a senator whose name i do not recall. He said, i would be dead within six months. That senator is no longer alive. [laughter] [applause] but you cannot remember his name. I do not remember his name. What your current view is that as long as you are healthy and able to do the job, you intend to stay on the court. Is that correct . As long as i am healthy and mentally agile. [applause] Justice Stevens and previously oliver went homes retired when they were 90. We do like to break their record . The first week in july with Justice Stevens in what turned out to be the last week of his life. It was remarkable. He was 99 years old. Age 90. The core at he has written four books. So yes, he is my role model. Today, many people think the core is very political. The people appointed to the court by democratic president s and those appointed by republican president s tend to follow the political desires of the republican or democratic party. Do you think that is a Fair Assessment . Why do you think people have that few . Becausee have that view agreement is not interesting. Disagreement is. 54 orends to play up 53 decisions. If we can take last term as a typical example, we had 68 decisions after a briefing and argument. , 20 were 54 or 53 divisions. 29 were unanimous. Wewe agree more often than disagree. That is something i would like the audience to take away. Divisions, they are our own some important questions whatever agreement rate is always higher than our disagreement rate. A fivefouru have perspective decision, does one of the justices go to another justice and say, why dont you change your mind . No. If you votey says for me on this one i will vote for you on that one . But we are happens, constantly trying to sleep each other. Most often, we do it through our writing. Every time i write a dissent, i am hopeful i can pick up this post. David any people are surprised the stability that exists between justices even though they write at such favorable things about each other. Notice scalia used as a such wonderful things about your views. You then still went to the opera with him. Was that hard to do . Justice ginsburg not at all. I becamecalia and friends when we were buddies on the d. C. Circuit. Love most about him . His infectious sense of humor. When we were three judges on the court of appeals, he would sometimes wish something to me. It would crack me up. All i could do to contain hysterical laughter. We had much in common. , both of usstyles cared a lot about writing opinions so that a other lawyers and judges would understand what we are saying. David both of you were and still are opera lovers. Where did you get your love of opera to begin with and where did the opera skill leah come from . Ginsburg come from . Justice ginsburgj my love of my love of opera began when i was 11 years old. I was in grade school in brooklyn new york. Jr. High schoolenglish teacher took me to a high school in brooklyn where an opera was being performed. Not a likely choice for a first opera. There was a man at the time named dean dixon who is mission in life was to turn children onto beautiful music. He had all city orchestra. He took upper performances und to various schools opera performances around the various schools and narrated in between. There were costumes. Staging. My introduction to opera was thanks to dean dixon in 1944. So some of the scalia the school we are ginsburg upper was written by a Law School Student . Justice ginsburg he was a music major at harvard. Derek wang is his name. He decided it would be useful to know something about the law. So he enrolled in his hometown law school at the university of maryland. In his second year, he took a constitutional law course. He read these dueling opinions. Decided this could make a funny opera. Taste. Give you a rageh scalias aria. He sings the justices are blind. How can they possibly spout this . The constitution says absolutely nothing about this. My soprano voice, i answer, you justice scalia, you are asserting bright Line Solutions to problems that do not have easy answers, with a great thing about our constitution is that like our society, it can evolve. So that sets up the difference between us. The plot is roughly based on the magic flute. Scalia is locked up in a dark room. He is being punished for excessive dissenting. I then emerge through a glass ceiling. [laughter] [applause] pass the test he needs to pass to get out of the dark room. Over isharacter left astonished. He says, he is your enemy. Why would you want to help him. And i say, he is not my enemy. He is my dear friend. And then we sang a wonderful duet. It goes, we are different. We are one. Different in our approach to reading legal text. But one in our reverence to the constitution and for the institutions we serve. David you are extremely well known around the country now, what you were not when you went on the court. Now you have become more or less a rockstar. Justice ginsburg when i was in common you have with the notorious boj vig, i said it is obvious. Id so are most justices most justices of the Supreme Court are not keen eyes by the public i would say. But you are extremely well known around the country now. You are not when you went on the court. Now you have become more or less a rockstar. Movies aboutave you on the basis of sex. Why do you think this has occurred and youth is this something you do not enjoy that much or is it something that comes with the territory now . Justice ginsburg how was the notorious rbg created . [applause] was the idea of a secondyear student at nyu law school. Who was very disappointed in the courts decision in the Shelby County case. That was a case in which the court declared unconstitutional the key provision of the Voting Rights act of 1965. It had been renewed time and again by overwhelming majorities on both sides of the aisle. Court struckme down the formula. The way the voting act worked a state or are city or a county that kept africanamericans from voting in the not so good old days, you could not make any change in voting legislation unless you precleared it with the department of justice, Civil Rights Division or with a threejudge district court. Suppressede check many laws that would have discouraged africanamericans from voting. The Supreme Court said the formula for who is discriminating in 1965 is now out of date. Overess needs to do it because jurisdictions that were discriminating in 1965 may have clean hands today. The political problem was, what member of congress, what senator, what representative would stand up and say, my state or my city or my county is still , so keep it under the surveillance that the Voting Rights act provides. It was not going to happen. The act itself had a bailout provision. County indeedty, had clean hands for several elections, it could bailout. That i thought was all that was needed. In any event, this student was turbe by the court disturbed by the courts decision. And then she said to herself, anger is not a useful emotion. Im going to do something positive. Took thedid is she announcement of my dissent that i read from the bench in Shelby County and she created this blog. A name she got from a wellknown rapper who was called the notorious big. When i was asked what in the world do you have in common with the notorious big, i said it is obvious. Born and bred in brooklyn, new york. [applause] you were born and bred in oakland. You still have a in brooklyn. We still have a bit of an accent he replayed in a move of an accent. You are played in a movie by felicity jones. How do you think she did . Justice ginsburg i thought she was fantastic. Said, you speak the queens english. Are you going to tapes of my to many speeches. My arguments at the court. She was wonderful. David in recent years, you have also gotten a lot of attention for your exercise routine. When did that start . You have your own trainer. Are you still lifting weights are whatever you are doing . As recently asg tuesday. [applause] i have been with the same personal trainer since 1999 when i had my first cancer about. My first cancer bout my dear husband said after going radiation, i look like a survivor of auschwitz. He said i must do something. He said get a personal trainer. In 1999. Hen i started sometimes i get so absorbed in my work i do not want to let go. When it comes time to meet my trainer, i drop everything appeared as tired as a may be in the beginning, i always feel much better when we finish. David did martys mother ever give you any advice on how to stay appellee married . Justice ginsburg she gave me some wonderful advice. We were married in her home. She said dear, i like to tell you the secret of a happy marriage. David so you met your husband, marty, you were married for 56 years. You met him at cornell. Is that right . Justice ginsburg yes. I was 17 and he was 18. David what is the likelihood of a woman at cornell meeting someone they marry and that person was to take care of child rearing and cooking as well as sharing all the other burdens of being married . Is that a common thing in your observation . [laughter] Justice Ginsburg it was extraordinary at any time but particularly in the 1950s. Cornell by the way had a 41 ratio, four men for every woman. Wantedthe place parents to send their daughters. Find marriage,t you were hopeless. I met marty. He was in fact the first boy i ever knew who cared i had a brain. He was always my biggest booster. Two years between college and law school. Marty was in service. Those two years we spent in oklahoma. The principal artillery base. I got pregnant during the first year. When i went back to new york to give birth, my cousin sent marty a copy of a cookbook. And said this will give you something to do while your wife is away. So marty had originally been a chemistry major at cornell. And he treated this cookbook like a chemistry textbook. He started with the basics and worked his way through it. Chemistry because it interfered with golf practice. Marty was a great golfer. Then he switched the government, which was my major. He attributed his skill in the kitchen to two women. Is mother and his wife his mother i thank i think, that was an unfair judgment. He was certainly right about me. [applause] [laughter] i had one cookbook. It was called the 50 minute chef should when you enter the apartment to on the table, no more than 60 minutes. I had seven things i made. When we got when we went back to number seven, when i got to number seven, we went back to number one. David did martys wife ever did martys mother ever give you any advice . Justice ginsburg we were married in her home. She said just before the ceremony started, i would like to tell you the secret of a happy marriage. I would love to hear it. What is it . Then, she said, it s. Ps to be a little deaf [laughter] which was such wonderful advice. I have followed it to this day. When i am dealing with my colleague. If an unkind word is said, i tune out. David as a result of your marriage to marty who was a distinguished law professor and tax lawyer as well, you have two children. Jane, your daughter, teaches at columbia. Justice ginsburg she is a professor of eerie and artistic property law. [applause] only you and she were the motherdaughter team to be elected to the harvard law overview. Is that true . Justice ginsburg so far. David and you have a son who is in the music business should Justice Ginsburg in the music business. Justice ginsburg james makes exquisite compact discs. Classical music but no talent as a performer. He went to the university of chicago, he was a classical disc jockey on the student radio station. In the years he was dropping in and out of law school, he told doingliked what he was much more than his law classes. So we said, fine. If that is what you want to do. Is his label recordings are gems. David do you have any grandchildren . Justice ginsburg i have four grandchildren, two step grandchildren and one great grandchild. To your grandchildren call you rbg . Justice ginsburg i am a jewish grandmother. David the harvard law overview and the columbia law overview, you are flooded with job offers. Justice ginsburg there was not a single firm in the entire city of new york that would take a chance on me. David from the harvard law review on the columbia law review, you are flooded with job offers. Justice ginsburg i had three strikes against me. David after 13 years, did you think you had a chance to be on the Supreme Court . One thinks,burg no my aim in life is to be a Supreme Court justice. David when you first got on the court, whether justice is saying, lets have dinner together . Justice ginsburg just as oconnell was the most welcoming. He gave me some very good advice