Charlie. Charlie where is all of this going . Is this the beginning of something . Robert it is the continuation of the unraveling of the trump presidency. He is an outsider, has always been an outsider, but there are people around him whether it was Mitch Mcconnell or paul ryan or general kelly, who believe they can build a project around the president , get him to enact key gop priorities. They keep learning again and again, based on my reporting, the president changed this system. He wants to govern by instinct. He does not want to request in a certain direction. To be pushed in a certain direction. Charlie can it continue . Are you suggesting most people while amazed by this at the same time dont see it going to some logical conclusion . It is simply a continuation of what we will see for the first ofm, if it is only one term donald trump . Robert the republicans are aghast. When i talk to congress people, they think the entire presidency is on the brink. In the white house there is a different perspective, especially when you talk to the president s friends. He looks at the Republican Party now as a failed business, a business that has not been able to give him wins, and wins are what he wants. He does not want ideological victory. This reality and observation of the party, he is ready to move away and battle the republican establishment now and in 2018 ahead of the midterm elections. This has deep consequences in washington because there is an expectation he could get tax cuts and other things through. There is genuine concern among the Top Republicans in the country the president is ready to walk away on them and their agenda. Charlie if he does that he will have no legislative agenda to take to 2018 or 2020. Robert you see the majority leader in Public Comments saying to the president in effect, you have to get the budget done, we have to get taxes done. Where is his attention . When you ask his advisers, they say he is focused on what he believes is the best area for him to fight, the battleground, which is the culture, fighting grievance politics, National Football league, defending his own reputation when it comes to the handling of natural disasters. He is not moving forward and having rallies on tax cuts. It is about President Trump day in and day out fighting for President Trump. Charlie lets take the quarter situation. Corker suggests the chairman of the Senate ForeignRelations Committee suggests his behavior may be creating a path to world war iii. That is, i cant imagine that in all the years i have looked at washington. Jarring,nd it is more charlie because i remember a year ago i was speaking to determine corker, and he was talking to me on the record about how much he had built a rapport with then candidate trump, how he was interested as serving as the Vice President ial nominee. He backed away from that. He did grow close because he saw trump as someone who thought about Foreign Policy differently. Corker liked that he was not a traditional republican hawk like george w. Bush. But even someone like corker that tried to build a friendship, had a relationship, he, one of these kinds of republicans, has walked away, because they do not see in the president s behavior and character they want in a national leader. Charlie steve bannon is on a campaign to challenge the Establishment Republicans in primaries. Will the president support that . Robert if steve bannon is almost a satellite to this white house, he is not being directed by President Trump. Some people are wary abandon. Hey think he is bannon they think he is becoming too powerful in the Republican Base month but steve bannon thinks he is working in the president s interests, and that it is time for a clean sweep to run against every american republican in the country, sweep them out and have more trump style candidates come yen. That doesnt mean there will be a populist or nationalist it is more about the outsider persona. That is like bannon once in congress. Charlie what impacted john kelly have . Robert that is one of the more difficult reporting targets. General kelly has closed the door of the oval office. He has a tight grip on the paper flow goes in front of the the the president , but he cannot control him late at night when he is making friends calls to friends. There is this implied circle of friends general kelly does not control because people call him on his cell phone and find he will find a way to get back to them like sean hannity or tom barrick. These are people general kelly cannot stop getting to the president. Charlie you are suggesting closing the door to the oval office is something that has eliminated something donald trump cherished, which was a free flow of people coming in to talk to him, people he enjoyed having conversations and talking about what was happening in the country, and general kelly had cut that off, and it frustrates the president. Robert it does. I know this from talking to people who are close to him. I am so glad i covered him during the campaign. I saw him in trump tower, it was a flow of people in the time people throwing newspapers and magazines on the desk. When you are in the middle of an interview, constant conversation. That is how he ran the organization and governed his own family. That is have you thought about his political life, a running conversation. Anyone could jump in. The last person he would listen to intently, and that is not how general kelly wants to run the white house. Trump is clashing with that. Charlie you suggest people are not running to take his side in the conflict with bob corker nor are they taking bob corkers side as well. There is a sense of workers says of general feeling among leaving republicans in the senate that share the views he has worrying about the president s fitness for office. Robert there are private concerns from many lawmakers in the Republican Party about the president s conduct. They think he is out of control with his use of twitter, out of control with the brash public battles he has. And the sound of silence is revealing, because many of the Top Republicans, they state relatively quiet stay relatively quiet on the questions of fitness for office. They still want to work with him for tax cuts and regulatory changes. They believe they are part of the party. He is the king of their base, and if they want to run for reelection, they dont want to alarm trumps voters. They are getting pressure from many allies tos beak out more they speak out more, but think he is the leader of the party. They dont want a total mutiny at this moment. Charlie where does the Russian Investigation stand . What is happening with respect to bob mueller and his group . Robert it is the cloud that hovers over everything. It is also the issue in a strange way some republicans even believe is reassuring because they think mohler with his integrity and reputation, should he find anything on collusion or involvement with the trump campaign, that will speak for itself, that they dont need to be in front, Republican Leaders trying to legislate or dictate how that issue unfolds. They want to see what m ueller has to say. They think he is looking at possible obstruction and the chairman, paul manafort, whose home was raided, he could be in legal trouble. There is a grand jury in with grand general flynn and his involvement while he was a member of the trump campaign. I do not want to speculate. , everyonet asterisk thinks about it every day. Nobody really knows. Charlie does anyone knows what the president intends for north korea . Robert the president has been told having a military option is on the table, and he likes to waive that idea around in private number stations, sometimes on twitter. At the same time, both sides know that a military altercation would be disastrous in terms of human life that would be lost. Military leaders are trying to avoid that confrontation, but the president has a militaristic approach even if he is not interventionist. He is militaristic and his advisers are trying to calm down the rhetoric. That is not easy. Charlie do the people who know him best worry about him . Robert his family knows him best. At times they are concerned he is being pulled in so many directions. This is someone who was never in public life as an elected official, now president of the united states. There has been alarm he is doing too much, that is relentless personality is spilling over day after day as frustrations mount as well. Some of the people who care for him told me he loves when he plays golf because he is calming down from the pressures on him. He gets criticized for playing golf, but his closest friends say that the best thing he is taking time away from the oval office. Charlie thank you so much, pleasure. Robert thank you. The Harvey Weinstein story continues to bring allegations against the film executive, and the New York Times published allegations that he had been paying people for decades. Today a new yorker article online shares accounts from several women who have come forward about Sexual Harassment and assault. Joining me is tina brown. She is ceo of tina brown live media and founder of women in the world. She worked with Harvey Weinstein and miramax in the early 2000 for a magazine she greeted called talk created called talk. What surprises you about this story . Tina it is difficult when you talk about harvey. He was so different when you got into business with him than he was out and about four at a screening. When i went to work for him as part of the new yorker, i thought i was getting this big, anonymous maestro who would be a wonderfully, warm, outward, creative force, who would enable my desire to make a magazine more than a magazine. That is what he promised he. He said you will have a magazine and stories that can be books and tv. It can be a whole kind of media platform. That was attractive to me. That is what i want to do at the new yorker and could not do where i left. This was in days of going to work for harvey. I realized the entire carapace of his verse analogy was different personality was different. He is a very paranoid individual, fearful, who seems to see the world is against him. Be in thisnstantly spin factory where he had pr and lawyers spinning stories about harvey which he was great about. At the same time it became strange when what they were spinning was what was going on with these women. Universal rights. Happened,hings that but universal rights. There were things that happened, but you never saw it. On the payroll, everyone would be given the payroll, which all the people at the post or tabloids, people writing stuff, entertainment writers, gossip writers, if there was any stirring of negative story, he would offer them a contract or development deal, consultancy, and they would come. Journalists were assured money. They were also very starstruck with the world harvey offered which was movies in hollywood and every writer getting in on dreams that he could get a big movie and his life would be changed. Or her life would be changed. Harvey would have that ability to take somebody and make them into something more. He had this retinue of people around him, people getting their stories killed or not writing stories. Many journalists tried to do this story. It always got killed. It got killed either higherups, editor, owner, the entertainment editor, lover was a friend of the owner. They would always kill the stories. What has happened is, that is over. We are in a new era. There is not anything anymore people can do. We live in the world of total transparency. There is no place for that kind of sublimation. It will come out. It is only a matter of time. I used to think this would happen, harvey would be the next bill cosby because there was so much there that people could get out and had not done so. But i feel badly for his wife and children because it is a very terrible thing to see the kind of massive, epic fall we have seen with harvey in the last weekend. I always felt with him the volcanic rage we once saw with harvey, and i did experience that, was his sense of dissonance with who he was. This is a man of incredible ,aste who had an enormous flair and to sit in a Screening Room with harvey was to really see a maestro. He understood how to make them better in every way. It was interesting. He was good at that at any editor can be in a magazine. But at the same time with his personal behavior that was on it utterly unacceptable in every way, i always wondered if that was from his own anger that he knew he was a man of taste buried inside a personality that was so, you know. Charlie why did this come out didnt this come out sooner . Robert he was very tina he was very intimidating. He could be very scary. He is a big, imposing man, and he could be snarly and intimidating at scary. He got into my head very quickly in terms of, you have to jump. If you did not jump, you could see that kind of sense that everything revolved around him. If you displeased him, it was a scary sight. That was intimidating. As actresses, you know, it is hard to get a good role. It is hard to get a good part. Here was harvey doing wonderful work, much of it in the movies he could propel a woman to an oscar. There is always that hope, and something so humiliating about believing you are going from a business meeting and finding it wasnt. It is deeply humiliating. As aggressive not as it sometimes was. There was something deeply shaming knowing you happen snookered. You thought you were going to a meeting about a new part, and actually what you are going for is you could, you know, make an advance on you. And one of the things women find when they are abused if they are ashamed. It is illogical. The abuse should be the one shouting from the rooftops, but that is not what happens. There is no good thing women feel ever in the revealing that this happened to you. You are the one who is demonized. Look at the italian actress who did come forward and report what happened between her and harvey, and there was the nypd into it, and special crimes came in to investigate, but he managed to spin that away. Suddenly you start to read all of this bad stuff about this actress. As aas being characterized girl that was a serial accuser, on the make, all of this demonized nation. Demonization. Powerful people contrast a womans reputation. Look at the made from the maid from the hotel. Ultimately he did rape her. And this for made who was at the hotel poor maid just trying to clean a room, suddenly she was on the front page of the New York Post that said she had hiv. It was ugly what happened to her. Women become afraid and they think i will never work again. It happens again and again. Charlie what happens to him now . I, i cannot imagine how terrible this must be for him. Wonder, i wonder if this is some kind of a relief . With all the covering up and pretending, it is out there. Nothing worse now can be done. He has been absolutely unbelievable moving forward. Charlie what happened to roger ailes and bill oreilly, what does it change . Tina what we are seeing is women have just decided and pushed back definitively, that they will not have to deal with this toxic testosterone anymore. In a way, some of these stories, you see the surrogate for trump in the white house. A serial harasser is in the oval office. On tape was boasting about assaulting women. But he was elected president , and that womens market marches on a different guys. The women are saying, that happens, but we are not going to let it happen in other parts of our lives. And out of allod this mess and horror we are hearing is, powerful women are standing up and saying, this happened. Womens of means and profile are saying this happened. Women who are not powerful and do not have means since they are not alone. Women who do not have means, you are working as a waitress and being groped by the manager of the restaurant, you are you are stuck. You are trying to make your childrens lives better. So there are many women who are trapped in terrible situations, and they have not got, they feel afraid to speak up and afraid to leave. Gretchen carlson was a giant killer by bringing down roger ailes. She suited him because she was affluent, her husband was affluent. She carefully documented it, and if you speak to her, she will give you the bible on this. Dont ever go to hr. Hr reports to the boss. Take notes, chronicle it, document it, and have a case. Then you can go and tell a lawyer. If you can afford it, which is a catch 22, because most women cant afford to do that. So i think it is an incredibly healthy thing that this is happening now. Clearly, some may say, there are stranger things. It is good because it is saying the culture has changed. It is no longer acceptable to do these things, and if you cross that line, you will be called out. Ashley, huge kudos to rose mcgowan and with the two who actually spoke first to the New York Times, which was really brave, and is brave to be early. Now i am glad the other people like Gwyneth Paltrow and others have talked to the new yorker, i think it is a good thing they are doing that. It makes people say, makes them worried that if they behave like that, it will come out. Charlie tina brown. Back in a moment. Stay with us. Charlie Steven Spielberg is one of the most acclaimed directors working in hollywood. His films have grossed a combined total of 9. 3 billion. A new documentary film examines his remarkable life and career. The hbo documentary spielberg will debut october 7 at 8 00 p. M. On hbo. This angeles calls Los Angeles Times called it surprisingly intimate. Here is a look at the trailer. Every time i start a new scene, i am nervous. When that verges on panic, i get great ideas. To get intoery hard the film school and i did not have the grades to get in. I realized this was going to be what i was going to do or i would die trying. When i got into the group of the movie breast, it was get the camera arranged. That was going to be a disaster. Opened, thisjaws is it. There were people who hated it, people who blamed him for ruining the movie. All my films come from a part of myself i cannot articulate. S