rhetoric this week. governor jan brewer went on tv last night to back the donald's comments gov. brewer: i believe mr. trump is telling it like it really is. being the governor of the gateway of illegal immigration for six years, we had to deal with a lot of things. if the people of arizona realize we pick up the tab for the majority of the people coming across our border in regards to the drug cartel, the smugglers the drop houses, it has been horrendous. i think everybody knows he is right. mark: probably be a lot of arizonans who agree with governor brewer. other than mr. trump's speech tomorrow, what is at stake? phil: 3500 people, the number of people predicted. moving it to a convention center. when the light shines, he performs. i don't think there will be any question he will go as big as he has gone on immigration an anti-immigration comments. my big question if he jumps the shark. whether or not he pushes it so far, you don't know how much further he can go, but pushes it so far it is across the board condemnation what he has done. showing up with a controversial figure. what he said in the weeks leading up to this. i wonder if he pushes it that far right now. where do you think? mark: it is more likely than not he does what you said and moves to a different position. there is a possibility if he gives a statesman like speech, shows some part about the immigrant situation, if he showed a little bit of diversity, you could make a powerful statement and help his candidacy even if he does not back off in some of the hard-line stances like building a wall, etc. i know people have told them that is a good idea. i don't know if that he would do it. phil: one of the other questions i had is is this weekend the weekend the republican party on the whole coalesces around the strategy related to dealing with him? mark: no strategy. phil: hillary is planning a speech at the new york news school on monday which is all about everyday americans and the everyday things she could do to the economy to make their every days even better. this is being described as a major speech. we will probably have a live stream on it. our clinton specialist has a preview on the website. mark, what is on the line for hillary clinton? mark: she wants to make this campaign about the economy. to want to talk about the things that are working in a democratic administration. she wants to protect herself. the news school is not a liberal place symbolically and she want to make sure she is not susceptible to attack by bernie sanders. i think she needs to be more specific. phil: i would be interested in your thoughts -- i'm surprised it is being billed as a big speech. they are not trying to tone it down. i have no sense whatsoever of specific policy proposals. it sounds more like those will be rolled out in the weeks following the speech. what do they have to gain by billing this as a big speech? mark: i think she still wants to establish her identity on the economy. every day, she takes up space on those issues, they feel better about it. at some point, she has to give people the sense of specifics. big speech mean she need to do something to pay off, but she needs to establish some portfolio, some image on the economy beyond what she has done in generalities. phil: when martin o'malley puts out a 10 page very detailed paper on wall street regulation. when bernie sanders talks about this issue, how long does she have until she responds? mark: we will see on monday. the biggest secret in presidential politics has been revealed -- scott walker's presidential campaign logo. the governor trickled out pixels of his image and speculation abounded over what it could be. the lost city of atlantis? nope. here it is. it is his name -- scott walker. monday night from the same venue he celebrated his recall victory in 2012 -- what is at stake for his belated announcement? phil: you got me so excited. mark: who would have thought that was his logo? phil: it is showtime, period. when you talk to other republican campaigns, one of their biggest levels of frustration is his ability to go these last months with not a lot of scrutiny. even his camp will tell you they have been taking a lot of time to get him ready on the policy side of things, on the campaign side of things. now it is time to go. i think that is why this speech is a speech, whatever. the campaign starts in earnest it is showtime. mark: most of these announcements have been pretty good. walker told us his wisconsin story, his bio. i will be interested how what he presents on national economic policy some vision for the country beyond the generalities of being critical of the obama administration. phil: is it your sense the team feels like the bio is not enough at this early stage? mark: i actually think they like the bio a lot. it certainly plays well in iowa. one of the questions for walker is will he be a heavyweight with bush, rubio? is he a top-tier candidate? let's see if they have the logistics to pull off the simple mechanics of what will be a well watched campaign. phil: speaking of republican campaigns to come -- 15, maybe 16. two 527's committees announced raising about $11.5 million in two months. they are selling this as an impressive number. mark, is it? mark: it is, without a doubt. kasich has been concerned personally. could he raise enough to be considered a first-tier candidate? in two months, that is not that bad. he will put $1 million of that on the air soon to help himself and the state that will be big for him. phil: you broke this story. what do they want to see out of that buy? are they specific numbers they need to see in the weeks ahead based off that? mark: i think they would like to see a bump up in new hampshire and maybe have that help them build some national buzz and help them with the ability to raise their national number. kasich will be the last major candidate in and hopes to get in that debate in ohio. cnn is reporting rick perry's super pac's have raised $17 million in the first half of the year. that is obviously bigger than kasich but over a longer period of time. can kasich keep it going? can he do that recognizing jeb bush has the first tier to himself. can he keep up with the big fundraisers? phil: what is his natural donor constituency? mark: in knows a lot of rich people. he does not have the proof that he can be a grassroots fundraiser. all right, coming up, it will be either ariana grande or jennifer jacobs after this word from our sponsors. ♪ mark: ring, ring -- it's donald trump on the line. he is calling to talk about the rally he is doing in phoenix tomorrow. thank you for calling. you are doing a pretty high-profile speech. can you preview what you plan to talk about? donald trump: we have a tremendous small group of people. about 500 or so in a ballroom. all of a sudden, we started getting calls from a hotel because it does not hold much more than that. thousands of people were calling in from all over arizona and phoenix, they wanted to be there. it is turning out to be many thousands of people. i think they just landed the convention center which is a big convention center. that is now packed. it was like thousands and thousands of people will be there. mark: what is your message for them, the country and the world at this point going to be about immigration? mr. trump: we have to stop illegal immigration. the country is being decimated by it. a tremendous amount of problems are happening because of it. tremendous numbers of people agree with me. you see what is happening with the polls. we are having other ones coming up. this is one issue -- i'm the biggest on trade and jobs, but this has become a very big issue on immigration. we will talk about it at length. there are a lot of people that agree with what i am saying. we have to stop it. we have no borders, no control. you look at the safety, you look at the people that are coming in. in my opinion, forced in by other governments -- i have great relationships with the mexican people. i have many mexican people working for me. i deal with mexicans. i sell apartments to mexicans, apartments by many. i will tell you i have great respect for mexico but the problem is their country is smarter. their leaders are more cunning than ours. it is never going to stop. we are being out dealt by everybody. what is happening and what i have been saying -- what i think have been clear on is the mexican government is sending in people that they don't want. people that are criminals, people that they don't want to take care of for the next 20 years. they send them across the border. we put them in jails, hospitals. we take care of them. some of these are rough customers and you see that in san francisco. we brought somebody back five times and they kept pushing them back to us and he killed an incredible young woman. mark: you obviously -- you talk a lot about this issue and i know you know you have taken a lot of heat. do you plan to say anything tomorrow that might be seen by your critics as being something seeking reconciliation or accommodation or the you continue to plan on saying what you say? mr. trump: all i can do is talk the truth. i don't want to be a politician. they are all talk, no action. you here about these sanctuary cities. things that most people have never heard of. you look at what happened in san francisco. all over texas, they have sanctuary cities. i did not know that. you hear things that are inconceivable. this is not a question about what i'm going to say. it is a question of finding an answer to it. we have to stop illegals from coming across the border. we have to get the criminals out fast and bring them back to where they came from. whether it is mexico or other places. one of the things that is happening that has been reported by homeland security and others is we have people coming in through the southern border from the middle east. that is not a good thing because we don't know where they are coming from and we don't know why they are coming. mark: you are faced a lot of criticism and pressure this week. have you made any mistakes this week in what you said or have not said? mr. trump: i think i have been so misquoted. when you read my speech -- i got rave reviews and you even said very good things about it. i got rave reviews and five days later people brought this up. it started with univision which frankly is controlled by the mexican government. i actually think that mexican government is more concerned -- i respect mexico and the people that run it. they are much smarter than our people. that is the problem. i'm angry that our leaders are so inept and our negotiators are so inept. whether it is trade deals with china or dealing with mexico. we have a lot of problems. if you look at my speech, my -- when i announced i was running for the presidency -- people have said it is absolutely -- mexico is sending. if you look at what castro did he sent many people to the united states. they call it the boat lift. they had many people coming into the united -- mark: i have to catch up because we have to go to break. sorry to interrupt you. thank you for joining us. we will be right back. ♪ mark: if iowa politics is a doughnut shop, consider us just like ariana grande -- we can't get enough of them. we bring in our colleague jennifer jacobs. we will talk about very important issues. jennifer, thank you for joining us. scott walker is announcing he was spent several days in iowa on the republican side. we agree that walker is the favorite in the caucuses. based on polling and talking to folks, who else on the republican side looks strong so far in building in iowa? jennifer: rubio is making a late start here in iowa, but he is attracting interest in crowds. people are definitely intrigued by him. jeb bush comes early next week. those two are strong here. we are waiting for rand paul to come back. he has faded little bit. you talk to the people in the des moines area and it is rubio and jeb bush on people's minds. mark: why has rand paul relatively been absent from the state and how do supporters feel about that? jennifer: i'm not sure exactly why he has been absent. i'm hearing some bubbling up of comments that bernie sanders has taking a bit of shine off of rand paul. you have some of those middle of the road libertarians who are giving a look to the vermont u.s. senator since he has some of the same -- they come from the same place on some of those national security issues and privacy issues and things like that. it could be the case that sanders is getting support out of the middle from rand paul but people are waiting for him to come back. there is still interest for him in iowa. phil: jennifer, chris christie is up with tv time in new hampshire. we have a quick snippet now. chris christie: leadership matters for our country and the world. if we are going to lead, we have to stop worrying about being loved and start caring about being respected. i'm not looking to be the most popular guy that tries to figure out what you want to hear, say it and turn around and do something else. i mean what i say and i say what i mean and that is what america needs right now. phil: that's bob is only for the new hampshire market. you have john kasich going very big in the new hampshire market. when you talk to people in iowa, are they being offended that they are being kind of ignored? and can they both play? jennifer: they could. chris christie has high negatives here. christie tested that message in iowa and to the audiences he gave the messages to, they love it. they said it was really strong. even the people furthest to the right love the message when he said those things in iowa. they would have a caveat saying they don't think he could make it here and some of his team do not think he is all that strong here. there are people that are open to him. he is coming full circle. chris christie would entertain some guests from iowa in 2011, trying to prompt him into the race, leading the contingent. a big summer fundraiser and christie rsvp's for that. christie is coming to the home. is a little full circle. christie is coming back to the people who pleaded for him to get back into the race. remember how much you wanted me and now i am here. mark: anything related to kasich even though he is focusing more new hampshire than iowa? jennifer: i'm not hearing very much about kasich at all. there is some curiosity from the middle of the road republicans. people have questions about him. they are willing to put a placeholder for him, but i don't get e-mails and phone calls about telling me about kasich. mark: you win iowa by organizing and getting hot at the end. i continue to be stunned. you talk about organization -- e-mail addresses, time on the ground, trying to get to all 99 counties -- is anybody at this point organizing and if so who? jennifer: hillary clinton, for sure. she has the lead on everybody. sanders is bolting up right now. he has like seven offices right now. the democrats seem to be organized. martin o'malley also is organizing pretty well, has a good team here. on the gop side, right now, if scott walker does not win iowa it would be a big blow. his strategist is betting the farm on iowa. we will see a lot of precinct organizing. beyond that, it is hard to tell on the gop side who has any strength. it is not seemed like anybody is doing as much as hillary clinton is doing. phil: jennifer, a number of republican candidates were at the national right to life conference in new orleans. i want to give you a quick taste of what was said. >> every single person alive today was once a grainy ultrasound picture. >> no candidate has done more to protect the unborn than i have. >> the baby killers -- that is what they do. they manipulate you into thinking this is not a human being. >> when did this become the law of the land that they had the final say on everything? they don't have the final say on anything. the people have the final say on everything. phil: are you starting to hear candidates sound more like this in iowa and how does that play in general? jennifer: there has been something like that in iowa for a while. interestingly, there started to be some questions about scott walker and where he is at. he has been targeted by the democrats for being all over the board on his abortion critic saying one thing when he faces a tight election and saying another thing now. i'm hearing rumblings of concern from iowans saying where exactly is he? it not like they doubt he is against abortion, but they are wondering if he is saying something to please the audience. abortion is a huge message. you have to have a certain stance on abortion to do well in the iowa caucuses. mark: jennifer jacobs, thank you. we will be right back. ♪ mark: monday is scott walker day. after that, live stream coverage of scott walker's presidential campaign announcement. remember, we are on twice a day at 5:00 and 8:00. until next week, for me and phil, we say sayonara. ♪ announcer: "brilliant ideas," powered by hyundai motors. ♪ narrator: the contemporary art world is vibrant and booming as never before. it's a 21st century phenomenon, a global industry in its own right. 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