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Transcripts For BELARUSTV 20240703

Vasily trafimovich varonyansky, one of the leaders of the partisan movement in the minsk region. Years of the great patriotic war, born august 25, 1901 years in the village of dekanka, poltava region, participant in the civil war and the battles at lake khasan in 1938. For Impeccable Service he was awarded a personalized watch from the peoples commissar of defense voroshilov. At the beginning of the great patriotic war he found himself surrounded. With a handful of fighters made their way to the east, they managed to get to the logoisk region and organize the avenger partisan detachment, which later grew into a brigade. Voronyanskys partisans destroyed more than 13,000 German Police soldiers, derailed 161 trains, blew up 152 bridges, destroyed seven aircraft, five tanks, 325 vehicles and six guns. In september 1943 , the plane on which voronyansky was flying to moscow came under fire. The commander of the partisan brigade was mortally wounded. Soon after the death of kambrig, the partisans received a radiogram informing them that the peoples avengers partisan brigade had been named after its commander and organizer. Today it bears the name of voronyansky. Streets in minsk, lagoisk pleshchennitsy. We tell you how to choose. Quality products for healthy meals. Take the nuts to hands, estimate their weight. Dont take ones that are too light. Such fruits either have no kernels at all, or they are dried out. Ground beef is dark red in color and has a pleasant smell with a slight milky aroma. A proper breakfast is the key to health and good mood. Today we will prepare lasagna with pumpkin and spinach. Quite unusual, but it seems to me. Sometimes you can pamper yourself, lets get started if you have a difficult day ahead and you know that you need a huge amount of energy, this is the breakfast that is like once again it will help you, dont forget about invigorating exercises, we raise our arms up, raise our legs and do this cool exercise, cockroach, we start shaking our arms and legs, our lymph flow starts, watch the breakfast of the champion project, on the belarus24 tv channel. Childrens curiosity and genuine interest, absolute honesty and sincere emotions of the characters. Hello everyone, in exactly a minute a hero will come to us who will answer everything. Are you ready to meet our hero . Why do you think the children chose you to talk to . I hope i can answer their questions. A talk show in which famous people answer tricky questions. The younger generation, how do you differ at work from yourself at home, it seems to me, solely in appearance, i turn from some kind of grumpy person into a cute one. Kitty, no, im either grinza everywhere, or kitty everywhere, how do you feel when people feel sorry for you, extremely categorically negative, to feel sorry is not the same as to sympathize, pity is an arrogant feeling, this is a feeling of superiority, see project 100 questions to an adult on tv channel belarus 24. Alexander alexandrovich, good evening, hello, sergeevich, today we live in a terrible time, when the last veterans are leaving. Great patriotic war, and the collective west does not hesitate to rewrite history, at such moments an effective symbol of heroism is needed more than ever. The brest fortress is also a symbol of the collapse of the wehrmachts hopes for the blitz creek. In conditions of complete encirclement , no one expected such courage from the soviet people. Well, by the way, as well as from the belarusians. Lets say frankly, in the twentieth year. Yes. Just like 80 years ago, the citadel is at the forefront of a war, a new war, informational, hybrid, do you see parallels in these events . I see, because ive been working, as it were , in the fortress since 2003, yes, so ive already seen a lot over the years and felt, when i came from the krovech museum work to work in the brest fortress, there was already a certain historical attack, a falsification on the fortress, so its not accidental. We joke bitterly that we have another defense of the brest fortress, only now from falsifiers of history and this is scary, but we need to understand that falsification is possible only in a society that does not know its history well, therefore our very important task, and it is no coincidence that we have a historical policy in our state, now it is insistent, that our youth especially knew her history, because we say that we must raise a citizen of the country, but a citizen of the country, his inherent quality, without which he cannot be a real citizen of knowledge of his history and respect for his history, therefore our citadel, our the brez fortress, it seems to me, is now playing a particularly Important Role in educating a citizen, instilling pride in ones country. You know, its not by chance that i invited you to the program today, because in reality weve known each other for probably years. Before our eyes is a reminder of fascism, this symbol of our heroism is before our eyes, how could they fall for western manipulation in 2020, especially since, well, lets just go a little further south, at that moment nazism had been flourishing in ukraine for at least 6 years, thats what this is a blurry look, a greenhouse effect said, do you have your own answer . You know, i also thought about this, because this question also bothered me, because in brest, there really were collisions on masherov boulevard, but they destroyed everything, they broke vandalism, this happened and it seemed, well, perhaps we didnt improve on something well, then i realized that these guys who defended our country, and the president who defended our country, they were also in the brest fortress, an excursion, so after all, the fact that we defended the country is our essential role, and why, why did these people come out, everything that you listed, its all true, a certain typicality, somewhat infantile, i ll tell you, because now life is like it s never been in belarus, calm, wellfed by and large , even look at the number of cars in brest, its a huge number, and people probably thought that it would always be like this. But what are the manipulations , you know, what immediately repulsed and shocked me, these, remember, 3 , yeah, that is, there are 97 of us, and you have 3 , someone trembled and. Thought that it would be better with the majority, they went in these demonstrations, but it was such a blatant manipulation, and i think, how am i there, my family, yes, my friends, and how are the people in the regions, in rural areas, should you immediately cross them out, that is, these are not people, this is 3 , this is a huge mass of the population, but about ukraine ill just say, for me such a marker of this happened is that at one time. Immediately after its acquisition, probably, the independence of ukraine, if im not mistaken, renamed the museum of the great patriotic war to the museum of the Second World War war in kiev, yes it would seem, well , arent they right, but you see, there is such a big difference between the Second World War and the great patriotic war, even where the war was for the seizure of territories, for the seizure of economic countries and so on, in our country, where the war was going for destruction, you see, the question of reconciliation immediately arises. It wont work, because you understand, ukraine is our fraternal people, now in connection with the war in ukraine, you watch these videos and empathize, and the slavs are dying there, they remember that, well, our people, yes, what defenders of the brest fortress, how many ukrainian heroes there were. You ask yourself how did you get to this life . And this is like we had in the twentieth year, a quiet change of consciousness, manipulation, historical memory, and what is their own for them, well, i have already said more than once, and during my excursions i say, well, you understand, excursions come from ukraine, they are good people, all ours, but for them we gradually had to explain, ours, who are ours, you know, they are gradually now the red army by default, as for us, they no longer have that. Was being prepared in 1956, its called the museum of the defense of the brest fortress, there would be a museum of the storming of the brest fortress, as they are trying to do, you know, that is, everything would be reformatted, yes, i just see in retrospect back and forth that how clearly it is gradually little by little this policy was just underway, turning into the fact that the brez fortress is a soviet myth, that there was nothing here, dont believe the excursions there, nothing, we ll tell you another one now. True story, that is, the periodically raised question about that in reality there was no heroic defense, of course, of course, that the memorial is soviet propaganda, that the writer Sergei Sergeevich smirnov is a propagandist, he exaggerated everything here, that there is nothing to be proud of, this is the key word, look, some pseudohistorians, they also claim that the supposed defense of the brest fortress, yes, as such, is a fiction, the Red Army Soldiers surrendered en masse , thats the most ridiculous one. If you personally had to debunk the myth, i wont say that they are ridiculous, but bitter, perhaps even for perceptions, firstly, our sofa experts, dear ones, i often had to read that there was a living barrier, this is all a myth invented by the defenders of the fortress, this is that the germans were hiding behind a living barrier of women and children, i decided this question for myself unequivocally, you see, there was also a military meaning in this living barrier. They took certain positions, hiding behind women prisoners, children there, the second memory is numerous, one of our women wrote, the commanders wife, that they put me and the children there near the guns that were firing direct fire on the positions of the defenders of the brest fortress, her son became deaf, after that he was deaf in one ear, you know, modernity is a historian, he must always compare it with modernity, even on excursions, when we lead excursions, well, you cant. They only tell history, we must always update this excursion, so you see, the war in ukraine, this is a terrible, bitter war, shows that living barriers are the trademark of the nazis, so for me in this moral sense, not only historical, i fully believe that they are did, did these war crimes, but you have to prove it on excursions to say that , believe me, the crimes of fascism are not made up, this is the topic of executions, that for some time in germany. They said that no, wehrmach, honest soldiers, they could not shoot on hitlers orders , yes, about the treatment of prisoners, there, but the treatment of commissars, jews, like, no, only the sss did that. There are no wehrmachs, well, numerous documents are now memoirs of the same diaries of participants in the assault on the brest fortress from the fortyfifth Infantry Division of the wehrmacht, the germans themselves, or austrians, well, yes, there were a lot of austrians, they write directly, but there were executions, we were read an order on the treatment of commissars a few days before the start of the war, without the right to take notes, that is, write it down, understand by ear, that is, we were already thinking about it, and god forbid something goes wrong. The order was not signed, they read everything, remembered it, you understand, thats why there were very, very falsification attempts, several years ago foreign media almost buried the last defender of the brest fortress, and in israel, by the way, you tried in this confusion to figure it out, at that moment, yes , Pyotr Kotelnikov remained alive, he is the youngest, still in russia, who is 100 years old, the defenders of those like petya kotelnik, although he fought with a weapon in his hands as a twelveyearold boy, are no longer there, unfortunately , there are children who survived the war, who met the war at a young age, but i must say that Boris Efimovich feerstein, who died in israel, is also a defender, but a defender of the fifth fort. Another question is that Sergei Sergeevich smirnov, the museum staff of those years, yes, uh, thought defenders. The fortresses of the defenders of the fortress core of these four islands, and those who fought in the forts of the brest fortress, they were considered participants in the battles in the brest area, and defenders of brest, thats why, on the one hand, yes, he was a participant in the battles, a hero, he ended up into captivity, went through all the horrors of captivity, like the jews, there are very tragic stories there, this is a separate topic of conversation, but in the very core of the fortress he did not fight then in the fortyfirst year, therefore part of the truth, as always, yes, part is a little exaggerated, but well, it is believed that the last defender of the brest fortress, even major gavrilov was officially recognized, who took the last battle on july 23 , 1941, that is, a month after the start of the war, was captured, then much later after the war he became a hero of the soviet union, and was buried in brest, yes from krasnodar, yes, but is it true that even. In august, before hitler and musalini arrived at the fortress, the ruins were still being shot at. Gavrilov, pyotr mikhailovich, we always say that this is the last of the famous heroes of the brest fortress. There are german documents already written on july 24, 25 that on july 23, while clearing the ruins of the fortress, a german team was there. Dan fortress von unruh wrote that when he arrived in brest at the end of july for his post, there was still shooting, and he fought with this shooting, so the cleansing was carried out back in august of the fortyfirst year, in early august before the arrival of hitler and mussolini , so this confirmation is probably still waiting in the german archives, and even more so this famous story with. The last defender, who in fortytwo year in the spring he was captured, it became the basis for the story of Boris Vasilyev was not on the lists, i would like to literally tell you a little, briefly, why i, for example, think that most likely this fact took place, because Sergei Sergeevich smirnov about it wrote in his letter, the foreman of the eighty rifle regiment durasov, he was for the wounded patients, together with one of the jews, and there they chopped firewood for our prisoners, yes, he worked in brest and so on, such service work, and says how ive been there about once already april 1942, this jew was late, and then he told here. A story that when he was going to work, he was stopped by a german officer who got out of the car, will you come with me, that they arrived at the fortress, he said, hes sitting there a russian who doesnt give up and. Persuade him or we ll shoot you, this famous story happened, yes, when he said that youre crying, that i want to see your powerlessness, and the german officer said that this is a real hero, this everyone knows, this is written well in the story, but what next . Sergey sergeevich smirnov, in the course of his Research Work, based on the characteristic features of this jew, yes, that he was a violinist in a restaurant, by the way, the building where the restaurant was was still preserved in brest on komsomolskaya street, he determined that. What is it was zalmonsky, that is, you see, durasov did not know the surname, it had already acquired its existence, specifics, and already in the course of the Research Work of writing the book brest fortress, but this is not enough, we have a unique brest in that the only archive of the bresse ghetto in europe has been preserved , the germans did not have time to destroy it in 1944, when a Museum Employee examined this archive, she found a card from zalmanstavsky, do you understand . Is in great need, an active civic position is very good, but the symbiosis of an active historian, a specialist who has been involved in the preservation and historical memory in practice for more than 20 years, yes, and in such a symbolic place, you represent the first region in the council of the republic and will be a delegate of the supreme council, let s digress a little, but what was this path from a researcher to the head of the brest fortress, this is not just a brez fortress, but a belarusian symbol of courage. Well , to be honest, frankly speaking, i never set myself the task of being a director or some kind of political figure, i just did my job, probably the main secret is, and i always tell our youth, yes, that comes to the brest fortress, loves his job, if you dont love your job, dont do it, its impossible, you see, yet. Touching on this issue, yes, we have a certain staff turnover, people they leave, but believe me, not the previous director, and grigory grigorevich bysyuk, whom i respect very much, not me, on purpose, yes, we dont fire anyone there, they leave on their own, if suddenly, you know, there is a difference in their views, here in their head there is a difference with by what you say, it is impossible, impossible, so yes, i regret that people leave, but i think, well, the fortress itself often squeezed you out, because well, thats not what it means. A place where you have to work, so, well, it so happened that yes, i loved history since childhood, went to the brest fortress, and gradually came here like this to work there, and worked, worked, and finally worked my way up, so yes, i just probably love my job, i like to give excursions, although now its not required by my position, on the one hand, but sometimes i take excursions, because in order to first of all, dont forget, the practice was simple. Communicating with people, you also get great pleasure, thats why im probably saying that take a playing coach, believe me, this is very important, especially since i remember my impression of how this story of yours about the fastidious fortress really had such an impact back then a very serious influence, it was completely different, not as usual, you know , probably also because, well, its not modest to say well about myself, but well, i honestly pass every excursion through my soul, and the main thing is that for me these defenders of the fortress, they are like family to our. Team, therefore, when we talk about them on excursions, we worry about them, let them pass through our souls, i must say that one of the significant moments in the work of the memorial is that we continuity of generations has been preserved, yes, we are not in a mine, in the sense yes, that for us, physical health and age are not the main thing, experience is very important, so i, as a director, try, here is our older generation, yes, who taught me, for as long as possible, i say, while you work, work, because you are a living example history, the connection between generations, yes, and you educate our youth, who come by your example, with these incendiary relationships, who are not indifferent to work, this is very important

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