Region became participants. Hello, the sas program is on air, i have full authority to announce, i am its presenter nadezhda sas, i greet you. Let me remind you that this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of the country and each of us. Lets summarize the results of the parliamentary elections in poland immediately after the digest of the key events in World Politics this week. More than 800 people were killed and injured due to the attack on the aliarave hospital in the gaza strip. Palestine blamed israel for the attack. In turn , israeli Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu stated that the Israeli Military was not involved. The israeli army is convinced that islam is guilty jihad. The heads of middle Eastern Countries blamed jerusalem for what happened. Authorities in iraq and saudi arabia called the attack a war crime, and the egyptian president said israel had violated International Laws and demanded an immediate ceasefire. And the jordanian leadership canceled a planned summit on the israelipalestinian conflict with the leaders of the United States, egypt and palestine. In belgium , a gunman shouting allah akbar shot and killed two swedish fans. The incident occurred approximately five kilometers from the stadium, where the qualifying match for euro 2024 between the football teams of belgium and sweden. After news of the shooting, the game was interrupted. A video appeared on social media in which an arabicspeaking man claimed that he was the shooter. In the video , he called himself a follower of the Islamic State group and said that he killed infidels, thereby avenging the muslims who were dying for the religion. The situation with the terrorist attack may repeat itself, because belgium has become a refuge for hundreds of thousands of immigrants who do not integrate into european society. In beijing, on the last day of the international forum, one train, one track , negotiations between Vladimir Putin and sidzenping took place. The meeting lasted 3 hours. Putin agreed with the need for close Foreign Policy coordination between moscow and beijing. He also shared his forecast that trade turnover between russia and china will exceed 200 billion by the end of 2023. The head of gazprom, Alexey Miller , said on the sidelines of the forum that the volume of pipeline supplies of russian gas to china in the near future could reach the volume that was previously supplied to the countries western europe. Since 2019, russia has been supplying gas to china via the power of siberia pipeline. It is expected that by 2024 supplies through it will reach volume. 30 billion km, there is also a project for the siberia power 2 gas pipeline, which involves supplying up to 50 billion cubic meters of gas from russia to china through mongolia. Well, today we are talking about poland again. In warsaw, not only is the government changing, politics, internal struggle, and the traditions of gentry civil strife are returning there again. And i would like to quote about this from the historian nikolai heinz. Leaving. The gentry sought for itself freedom, which can exist only in an abstract concept, and the result of such efforts was a veto, giving. The right to one member of the sejm to paralyze the decision of all the others, the famous historical prohibition, the phrase which can serve as the best eloquent epitaph over the political grave of poland. Will those who imagine themselves the builders of the new polishlithuanian commonwealth await the same ending that befell such a past power, we talk in todays program, im glad to welcome you to our studio already nikolai evgenievich budin, doctor of military sciences, professor is present, hello. And nikolai moratovich mizhevich, doctor of economics, director of the center for belarusian studies at the institute of europe and the Russian Academy of sciences, i am glad to welcome you, good afternoon , according to tradition, we begin our program with a quick question, do you expect that poland will now plunge into itself and limit its international ambitions, nikolai marotovich, i think that for the next month, polands activity on Foreign Policy tracks, as they now say, well, we must first figure it out, who owns the country, and then move to the east against russia and belarus or to the west against germany, but first you still need to understand yourself a little, given the recent resignations of a number of leaders of the armed forces, the polish republic, this task is urgent, and then, then everything will return to the previous antibelarusian. Russian course, yes, nikolai evgeniy, will the internal and external policy change, and will there be enough, taking into account internal strife, for external activities, i completely agree with nikolai oratovich, the part concerning activity of poland in the near future, it will be until approximately the new year, busy with its internal issues , periodically turning to the external vector, so to speak, but as for the fact that activity will decrease, probably not, in all likelihood not, because as soon as they will sort it out inside, they will immediately remember about the grievances, they will immediately remember about their geostrategic tasks, immediately, if they forget, their overlord will remind them of what they must do in the near future, i am definitely glad to welcome you to our studio, joseph skala, leader of the Czech Communist Party mora. We are glad to see you, we are discussing the results of the parliamentary elections in poland, how did Czech Society personally perceive the results of these elections, did they surprise you . Good afternoon to you and your colleagues and good afternoon, of course, to all tv viewers, the polish public may not be so interested in the polish elections, but that part of our society that is more politically active, in my opinion, is precisely it. The alternative part would agree with what your guests in the studio simply said, yes, poland has very little independent in its Foreign Policy, it connects to the tasks of its sovereign, as it was beautifully called here, and i think that the difference between donald tusk and his government and the previous government will be more in the details than in any strategic changes. I wanted to say that our generation, which remembers more , of course, can hardly forget about the very tragic consequences of polish nationalism in the thirties, when it finally got involved with the munich diktat, simply stole from us part of our territory and so on, and it seems to me that this illness is spiritual, maybe it is mental, it is returning to polish nationalists, they just think again that they can become some kind of important player on behalf of a foreign power, in the thirties we all remember who was this power, today we also know who that power is, so this is for us, not a very Good Neighbor from that point of view, i just want a minute. Draw the attention of our viewers and, of course , clarify with you right, justice on the one hand, civil position, on the other, here if we are talking about establishing relationships, will Foreign Policy change relations with the same republic of belarus, in your opinion, because part of the Belarusian Society is convinced that tusks civic position is rather a new opportunity for softer relationships. And others, so , now that the conflict in the east in ukraine, he says, we are going in a direction in which the west did not expect it, in my opinion, the European Union will also have to maneuver, here the question of large emigration from ukrainians to the west, even to poland, will arise and so on and other, so to speak, consequences of what is happening in ukraine. Maybe poland itself will feel more of its own, say, survival instinct, or as it is called in russian, and will not pursue such a stupid policy that does not help either europe, not poland, not us. Thank you very much, josef skala, the leader of the Moravian Communist Party was in touch with us, nikolai evgenievich, please tell me, right and justice really changed its communication with the electorate, literally, not a month before elections, we remembered that ukrainians behave quite aggressively in poland , we remembered that we need to think about personal interests, again, the situation with the ukrainian grain emarga, how do you think their politics, rights and justice will develop further . A specific party that is adaptive, this word probably suits its leaders very well, they are ready to adapt to the situation, they have a good sense of the intensity of passions in society, and even the most amazing thing they know how to give back , they know how to use their own mistakes in in the interests of pursuing ones own policy, therefore, to say that something will change is, in my opinion, wrong; in all likelihood, these were all election promises and the playing of those cards that could bring some benefit to the party as soon as the elections were held with the authorities will understand everything, if they retain power, i think everything will be switched to the same realities as it was, and probably the interest of their own people will be secondary in relation to the tasks that the Party Leaders will solve, well, after processing 100 of the ballots, we can confidently say that the conservatives and the farright are losing the parliament, the coalitions of the left and liberals, the power in poland is really changing, lets Pay Attention to the graphics with the results of the parliamentary elections, colleagues, please, it is gratifying that in belarus and russia those few who follow poland, the attitude towards this is much more rational and reasonable than in europe and poland itself, where they sing the asana to get rid of kochinsky, the understanding that for belarus nothing will change from the change of power anyway, gives detachment and emotionlessness, so they contribute to analyticalness. Nikolai moratovich. Absolutely correct formulation of the question, we are calm, we are rational, we are still for the most part not poles, although poles live in the republic of belarus, in the russian federation, but the majority, lets say, are not poles, so we look at how you are winners in in the elections, treat us, well , its quite natural, yes, everyone looks that way, so what do we see, right, justice and the civil platform are forces. In relation to moscow and minsk, occupying almost the same position. Yes , justice and justice are oriented towards washington, the civil platform is oriented towards berlin and brussels, but whether this makes it easier for us, for us there is some difference, no. Another thing is that it is not very clear who will start looking for ways for negotiations and compromise first, brussels with berlin or washington with london. Well, what if washington. With london or brussels and berlin will begin to look for ways to negotiate with moscow and minsk, which means the position of these parties will change, they will be the first to arrive to moscow, to minsk , and so to speak, uh, delegations will be sent, and flags will be brought, and peace and friendship will begin, well, at least business, to be honest, is already quite good in our time, but for this the position must change not in warsaw, washington, brussels. And how correct is it to say that power is changing in poland , taking into account the fact that the country has a fairly strong president ial institution, and anzhi duda will remain in this post until 2025, power does not change, only individual policy vectors can change, nothing more, i once again want to draw your attention to this graph, it is very indicative, justice is a civil platform, by and large there is an internal showdown within the framework. Elite, one part of the elite is trying to maintain its status quo to remain in power, the second part is a civil platform. The third way is the new left to create some kind of new reality or maybe development, but nothing will change fundamentally, and about this, this is the main thesis that is necessary understood by all who are considering this election, the essence of polands policy will not change, it doesnt matter, we really liked the previous remark, if its the United States, europe, no, forget it, the usa, europe, this is particular , the main thing is there is a position, lets call it the western world. It doesnt matter, but europe today works under the United States, it lies under the United States and we cant get away from this , the United States today is the most powerful state that imposes its position on the European Union, accordingly, will poland be closer to the European Union, closer to the United States the states, either she will report directly, receiving instructions, or she will receive the same instructions through the European Union, so there is hope for improvement. Polish diplomats, including those who work for us, adhere to this, they need to give them their due, well done, they understand what is happening, but they also gave up, they are waiting for elections and saying, but if new forces come to power, then there is hope that there will be some kind of reboot, well, yes, we can hope for that, but we, you see, we dont hope for anything, we are preparing to the maximum. To the worst case scenario, prepare for the worst, its better, okay, yes, its impossible not to agree, and indeed, i think that the president also supports your words regarding the fact that you cant entertain yourself with illusions, you cant watch whats happening with rosecolored glasses, unfortunately, this is again an illusion of choice among citizens of the European Union, it is present, but in fact nothing changes, nikolai. It is important that our viewers understand that the party of law and justice that ruled for 8 years was opposed not just by three separate Political Forces with their own programs, they are quite different from each other, quite significantly, but also the fact that each of the three opposition parties is essentially an electoral bloc uniting smaller Political Forces, in other words, in fact, in the new coalition there will be not just three subjects, but at least six, from the ultraliberal spring. Led by the openly gay robert biedran to the conservative polish Peasant Party, this is how they can jointly govern , interact, it is very difficult, they will have to negotiate, in fact, thats why in the very at the beginning of your program there was a big quote about liberumto, about the omnipotence of the gentry, and so on and so forth, when we come to warsaw, naturally, ive been there, well, a couple of dozen times, right . Well, yes, classical european. Well, of course, in catholic, generally conservative poland, you can hold a gay parade in warsaw, but when you come to some, well, as we say, regional center, lublin voivodeship, i assure you, what a gay parade, here if i dont serve in the church at the appointed time, which means im already out of school hell, because any normal pole must be in the service, he must introduce. The life that his ancestors led, that is, it is in the east, to a lesser extent in the west, of course, for obvious reasons, but this is a country of traditions, here on such traditionalists are based on justice, will be based, and by the way, this is what unites us, and, by the way, when the first time justice came to power, we had certain hopes that this would be an understanding of christian values and traditions , will unite us, but alas, antirussian, antibelarusian issues knocked poland out of the number of, not even allies, but simply neutral countries , but its no coincidence that we saw the president of the republic of belarus in uniform, surrounded by the military, why does everything bother us in polish relations with poland, but thats all in general it is calm, because poland, poland of the 21st century, respects strength and sees what is in the republics. Belarus is not unarmed, understands the threats, so they can talk a lot, and will talk, no matter who forms the coalition, but i still i proceed from. That they will not agree to obvious open military provocations, although this is some kind of courage in the presence of the respected nikolai evgenvich, to declare such forecasts, by the way, it is interesting how the voter makes his choice, because for some, tusk is really a product of soros, yes, the globalist elites , it also certainly has a threat, the imposition of the traditional, classical in the perception of man, and the world of poland and globalist ideas, which are indeed alien to many, but in this case they give preference civil position, because the militant rhetoric has tired many, which we hear every day from the mouth of the same moravian, duda, i would probably say this, we cannot fully predict on what basis a simple pole makes a choice, because we do not live there , we dont know this situation, but based on. Lets say, a look from the outside allows us to say that today poland is split, split not really, but mentally, there is practically, i wont say 50 50, but somewhere around 40 40 , plus some additional components, these are people, these 40 , these are the people who adhere to almost radical positions, and one thing, you understand, the gap is not only mental , not only geographically, not only economically, components have appeared here that poland could not even think about before, since it is, in principle, a single state, the majority , the poles, it was correctly said, catholics with the corresponding values, thus rocked the state, showed it, they made it so dependent on the europeans that today they themselves have to defend their identity, surprisingly right justice, which. They baptize from right to left, is the force that defends, at least in the eyes of the p