Republic of belarus, and without. And music, music expresses our emotions with matsney, this emanatory power is lethal for our souls, and our patriarchs for us, and it becomes irremovable the puzzles of our life, because the secret of music is that i know an inexhaustible principle of expression there, where the volume is clear, music replaces a thousand words. Hello, the sas program is on the air, i have the authority to announce, its presenter is nadezhda sas, i am glad to welcome you, i remind you that this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of the country and each of us. In todays program we will talk in detail about the terrifying new phase of the arabisraeli conflict, but immediately after the digest of key events in World Politics this week. On october 13 , a meeting of the council of heads of state of the cis Member States was held in bishke, the meeting was attended by the president s of belarus Alexander Lukashenko, russia vladimir putin, kyrgyzstan and sadyr japarov, azerbaijan ilham aliyev, kazakhstan kasym zhamar takaev, tajikistan imali rahmon, turkmenistan serdar. Mukhamedov and uzbekistan shavkat mirziyoyev. The cis summit is an opportunity at the highest level to compare notes on major global and regional issues, security, countering sanctions, trade, respect for common memory and history. The middle east conflict was also not ignored. Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko expressed his point of view regarding the key challenges facing the organization, including the current escalation in the middle east. West, which to this day, abandons attempts to shake us in different directions, weaken us and subordinate us to our interests. First, georgia left our association, de facto ukraine is not with us, there are Big Questions regarding moldova , unfortunately , armenia does not always behave like a partner, more and more new challenges are appearing take the middle east, they are not only shaking us up, they are already shaking. The whole world, god forbid, stops so as not to approach the third world war. Elections to the regional parliaments of lantagia in the federal states of bavaria and gesan brought a serious defeat for all parties included in the Ruling Coalition in germany. The social democrats generally got the worst result in their history. It is obvious that the majority of germans do not trust the government of olaf scholz, while the next elections to the federal parliament are scheduled only for 2025. The centerright cdu and csu won in both bavaria and hesse, but merkels successors also received a record low level of support in their history. The real triumph was the opposition alternative for germany, which took second place in hesse and third in bavaria. In general, the federal republic of germany has a party that advocates, among other things, the normalization of relations with russia and belarus. The consistently second rating is increasingly coming on the heels of the cdu, which is why rumors are actively circulating that the alternative may be banned as an allegedly extremist force. The work of the underwater gas pipeline abaltic connector between finland and estonia was blocked due to a leak, which was later stopped, as the president of finland said, there is a possibility that the gas pipeline was damaged from outside, at the same time, seismologists in norway announced that they had recorded a probable explosion in the area of the baltic connector gas pipeline, the magnitude was estimated at one unit. The point of damage is in the central part of the gulf of finland. After the leak , Natural Gas Prices in europe rose by 8. 8 and exceeded 40 euros per megawatthour. The pipeline between finland and estonia will be returned to operation no earlier than april 2024, the Gas Transportation system operator said. Topics a meeting of the countries defense ministers took place in brussels nato meetings of the ukrainenato council in the ramstein format. Ukrainian president Vladimir Zelensky arrived at the meeting on an unannounced visit. The situation with arms supplies to ukraine has deteriorated so much and is now in doubt due to the arabisraeli conflict that the ukrainian leader had to go personally in order to convince his partners that the ukrainian crisis should not be written off. As a result of the meeting, pentagon chief lloyd osin announced a new package of us military assistance to ukraine in the amount of 200 million. Into it will include ammunition for air defense systems, artillery, missile and aviation ammunition, antitank weapons, and equipment to counter russian drones. Today we will talk about a new outbreak of, perhaps, the most protracted conflict on the planet, blood is again being shed on the holy land, although due to the abundance of this blood shed. For thousands of years it would be more accurate to call this land bloody, the arabisraeli conflict seems to many to be unsolvable, in principle, is this so, well talk in todays program, to understand this complex topic, i will today to help farhad ibragimov, political scientist, specialist in the middle east, expert at the Valdai International discussion club. Hello hello. I am glad to welcome to our studio sergei rachkov, chairman of the Standing Commission of the council of the republic of the National Assembly of the republic of belarus on International Affairs of national security. Hello. Hello. I am glad to welcome you to our studio, i see that Dmitry Vasilets is already present. Dmitry, head of the banned Ukrainian Political Party power. I greet you, i greet you, i greet you, today we are really talking about horrific events, the whole world is riveted on what is happening today on the territory of israel, a quick question according to tradition, of course, i ask each of those present to answer it, this is a war for a long time, farhad alshamovich, what do you think, well, it all depends on what measures the israeli leadership will take now, in principle, the Israeli Defense minister said last saturday. That the war will last for a long time, they themselves admitted this, in principle, apparently, they rely on certain data that comes from massad, from tsaahal and other structures that are directly involved in this aspect, in principle, the hamas are very seriously armed, this was a blow and a shock for many, and for some not at all, but nevertheless it is less believed that, in principle, yes, this war could last another two weeks, in any case, this is what Many Political scientists, analysts, specialists say. Well , i think that despite all the loud statements and threats that are especially actively heard from on the israeli side, we all remember the statement by the israeli minister of defense, who said that gas would be wiped off the face of the earth, i think that usually such hot phases of aggravation of the palestinianisraeli. Conflict did not last very long, so this time, maybe perhaps, due to the surprise of the blow, its nature, serious results and results, perhaps a conflict, this phase will drag on longer than usual. Not long ago we talked about the situation related to kosovo, nagorno karabakh, weve been talking about it for a year and a half now ukraine, these are still local conflicts, the fact that today this is a global conflict, this is really a religious war, do you agree with me dmitry . Certainly yes, there is a clash of such centers of power as china, the Russian Federation, the United States, and the collective arab world, but if you look closer to the soup, then i would not draw conclusions that this will end quickly, because the groups palestinians , including hamas, have been supplying for decades. And in fact, in principle, the palestinian groups understood perfectly well that israel will carry out very brutal bombing strikes, most likely will carry out a ground operation, after such a serious roar on israeli territory, so it still seems to me that the israeli army is simply being lured by the howling gas sector, realizing that the israeli army is not ready, which is why in the first this. We heard a statement that the ground military operation would begin within 2448 hours, but almost a week has already passed, and sahal actually doesnt even think about starting yet, and this suggests that everything is there after all risks that sahal may encounter such fierce resistance in the gas sector that the military simply wont be ready for it and it will simply turn into a bloodbath, israel will suffer very serious losses. Lets Pay Attention to the map of military operations farhat elshamoch, who are the key allies from palestine, who can come to the rescue, who will again support israel, because in any case, this conflict has many players interested in what is happening, well, we must to say that this time everything is very ambiguous if we are talking about allies of palestine, then definitely the country that will support the gas sector as a whole is iran. The iranians have openly stated that they are ready to help, this is , of course, the lebanese hezbollah, which is sponsored by iran, this is, of course, a number of muslim powers that, in principle, are ready to provide assistance to the palestinians , however, there is a certain disunity there, polarization has arisen in a number of gulf monarchies, in particular the United Arab Emirates have stated that they do not support the hamas attack on israel, they believe that if hamas is already starting a war against israel, let it fight against soldiers, and not against civilians, but there is the position of saudi arabia , which has stated in principle that it is ready to come to the rescue, but again this will all look very aorphic, reinforced concrete support palestine will only benefit today. Iran, partly turkey , and qatar, which continues to feed , finance, which means hamas, in general, no matter how they dont give up on this idea, why, because everyone understands perfectly well that the ideologies that they have formed over many years katorzes decades around the israelipalestinian conflict, it must be tenacious, so you asked a completely fair question, how long will the war last, the war will last a long time, here are active hostilities, i would like to clarify in my own way, which means there will be a comment last 23 weeks. But the war is for a long time, for a very long time, because no one is going to give up, and this war, this war is a matter of principle for everyone, hamas is a structure that was very well organized, they believed that it aorphic for a long time, in israel, unfortunately, or fortunately, to each in their own way, they underestimated the capabilities of this group, because a number of countries in the middle east region are placing very serious bets on it, and more specifically, who will stand behind israel, so i can continue to answer your question. The following is, of course, a number of western countries, although in europe there are different views on this matter, for example, it is believed that in france and in germany there is no need fight so hard for israels position, i think that rushing too seriously into the breach is not entirely correct, the americans there also have very serious disagreements on this matter, if the republicans and especially donald trump were in power now, then there would be unconditional support here in relation to israel, since the democrats are in power and biden , who. Its no secret, has such a personal dislike for netanyahu, still behaves with restraint in relation to this issue, by the way, you noticed, yes, like the United States america immediately said who can interfere, who cant, who can be supported, who cant, sergei anatelevich, our belarusian viewer, he perceives what is happening , indeed, as something happening far away, this is not ukraine, which is located next to the borders, there are no bright sympathies, who to support, who not, personally. For you, who is the victim, who is the attacker, because the situation, if we look at the historical origins, is extremely complex, you know, despite the fact that it is really much further than ukraine, but probably ours too today the viewer is more sensitive to this situation, because in general the situation in the world is very difficult, the aggravation of this conflict. Really speaks of turbulence, of World Politics, of the reformatting of the whole world, and when there is a reformatting, then there is much less stability , you know, its difficult for me to determine my personal position, because for almost 6 years i was the permanent representative of the republic of belarus to the league of arab states, so of course i am deeply immersed in this issue and know all aspects literally, but of course, we must return, apparently to november 1947, when the world community, the United Nations, decided that there should be two states on this earth, it is very difficult to implement, but nevertheless in the year fortyeight implemented, part. of this idea and this political decision, why didnt they implement the second part, but you know, sergei anatolyevich, a number of experts on the middle east, they argue that the palestinian problem for the arab countries themselves is this a suitcase without a handle, a problem that weighs on them, and a solution is extremely difficult to work out, the special session of the council of the league of arab states ended in conva, the main conclusion is again the league of arab states. Stands for the resumption of the peaceful process of resolving this conflict, of course, today there are a lot of players, a lot of interests are tied up in this region, not all interests, they, of course , coincide, there are frankly interests that correspond only to one or one country or group of countries , as for the suitcase without pens, but you understand, we must return again to your message, because there are ordinary people, in the gaza strip, almost 2 million ordinary people, and there is hamas, which launched such an attack that israel was not ready for, yes there are very serious casualties among the israeli population, but first of all this is because. The internal political confusion in israel has led , among other things, to the fact that it probably exists in the Security Forces in the ministry of defense in the idf, which failed to predict and foresee and prevent this development of events. Im dmitry, im addressing this question to you, indeed, some of Benjamin Netanyahus statements drew certain analogies with president poroshenko , you remember when they turned off the water to crimea, we remember what the food blockade of donbass was like, today to Benjamin Netanyahu from International Organizations we hear intelligible comments, which , unfortunately, we did not hear earlier in the situation with ukraine, crimea, and other territories, that is, today they understand, i think, that a number of countries of the world community, that in this situation the behavior of the conflicting parties is naturally incorrect and inhumane, is, of course, present here. The official comments of israeli officials are absolutely cannibalistic and i think its not worth commenting on them, in principle its clear that in they are seriously reminiscent of nazism, and here we still need to look more into the future, because now, if we analyze the situation in the region, there is only one country that, de facto, can now play a very creative role and specifically contributes directly to the implementation of the United Nations resolution on the creation. Of a palestinian state, this is turkey, turkey has enough militarytechnical capabilities for the israeli army to stop attacks on the gas sector, this also applies to air defense, this also applies to the fleet, this applies and first of all, the status of turkey as a nato country, because according to the fifth article of the nato charter, the United States, the European Union and so on, all countries that participate in the nato bloc, they are forced to defend. Countries nato members, if suddenly there is an attack on them, that is, in fact, if turkey lands its troops in the gas sector, peacekeeping, again, and if, nevertheless, turkey manages to somehow go to the bank to make a nofly zone in the gas sector , then it turns out that erdogan will really be the savior of the muslims of palestine, in this regard, this person can play a very creative role, if of course he is not afraid, thank you. Huge, you remembered mr. Erdogan, on the internet we see a photograph where erdogan is holding a map in his hands, a map like palestine disappeared, colleagues, please put it on the screen, we will discuss it in more detail, palestine israel , coralcolored palestine israel purple by year 1946, 47, 67, 2010, and mr. Erdogan said that disproportionate and unfounded attacks on the gas sector, could put israel in an unexpected and undesirable position in the eyes of world public opinion. Israel should remember that if it acts as an organization rather than a state, it will eventually be treated as to the organization. Farhad, eshamovich, i want you to comment on this map, and there could be another historical solution. And this is what sergei anatelevich said about the fact that, in theory, two states should have been created. Jewish, arab, but in israel they considered that this solution to the issue was unacceptable for them, but the fact is that erdogans position on palestine, it is quite appropriate for a number of muslim powers, is quite logical for the position of erdogan as such, because we we know you its great that erdogan came to power in turkey on the wave of, and therefore religious , beliefs, in principle he did not deviate from these beliefs, he was somewhat european. Lets say centric, but well, later he became such a eurosceptic, which means what s happening now , the fact is that hamas is a structure that is controlled by the Muslim Brothe