We have already talked in several programs, but we will talk about the internal kitchen for the first time, but first , we will tell you about the main events of World Politics this week right now. The shortterm escalation of the conflict in nagornokarabakh ended with the victory of azerbaijan. For the First Time Since 1988, baku is regaining full sovereignty over this mountainous province populated by armenians. This was the result of the fact that the armenian leadership, led by Nikol Pashinyan , voluntarily forgave. With karabakh. In such conditions, the russian peacekeeper remains only to ensure the protection of the peaceful armenian population of the region. The settlement of the longstanding karabakh conflict radically changes the situation in the south caucasus and makes it possible to open many new transport corridors between asia and europe. A scandal erupts in relations between india and canada due to the murder of the leader of the sig separatists, who lived in exile. The indian authorities. Are expelling a Senior Canadian diplomat in response to the announcement of nongraths persona by an Indian Embassy employee who headed the Indian Foreign affairs station. Intelligence in canada. Ottawa claims indian involvement in the elimination of the sikh leader, who advocated the separation of the state of punjab from india. Rejecting the accusations, delhi also curtailed negotiations on signing a trade agreement with canada, revealing that other western countries have refrained from commenting, which speaks to indias weight in modern times. World and the desire of the west to win it over to its side. The regimes in kiev and warsaw, considered the most reliable allies in the confrontation with russia, loudly broke pots within just a few days. Solution the polish governments ban on the transport of ukrainian grain in order to protect its farmers led first to a complaint from kiev to the world trade organization, and then to an exchange of loud critical statements between vladimir zelensky. Polish Prime Minister mateusz morawiecki. This whole situation has shown that, apart from russophobia elevated to the rank of state policy, there is very little that unites ukraine and poland. And i cant help but comment on my extravagant jacket today. Why was it chosen because its red, i suspect you guessed it, a reference to one of the colors of the polish flag, but for many of my colleagues, it evokes associations with the uniform of the american military. What conclusion do we come to, we write poland, usa, in our minds. On october 15, the next parliamentary elections will be held in poland, the main competitors for deputy seats in the sejm of the lower house of parliament will be the ruling conservativenationalist right Justice Party of Jaroslaw Kaczynski and the Political AssociationCivil Coalition of exPrime Minister donald tusk. And of course, i am happy to introduce todays participants discussions, Andrey Vladimirovich savinykh, chairman of the Standing Committee on international. Affairs of the chamber, representatives of the National Assembly of belarus. Hello. Good afternoon. I am glad to welcome to our studio andrei viktorich manoela, doctor of political sciences, professor at lomanosov moscow state university, member of the Scientific Council under the Security Council of the russian federation. Good afternoon. Im glad to welcome you. Of course, according to tradition, we begin our discussion with a quick question. What do you think, Andrey Vladimirovich, is it likely change of power in poland following the Election Results . Well , absolutely not, the point is that. Well, lets put it this way, the two main Political Forces, they are literally going head to head, the difference is, well, 35 , and, in fact, none of the Political Parties will be able to immediately gain a majority of votes, they give 33 , they should to gain at least 20,031 seats in parliament, but none of the analysts predicts more than 200. This means that in any case there will be a coalition, in any case there will be, well, a Certain Exchange of positions, with a confederation a coalition is possible, as you you think they are very different, such a tender blanket that unites an insane number of small parties, parties, supoloks and so on, ask me what their political position is, i wont answer, probably no one will be able to give a clear answer, so everything is possible, but an amazing thing, for the first time in the history of such elections, none of the small opposition parties declares in advance their readiness to create a coalition . Well, thats what it is, you dont understand whats going on, the whole political campaign, Election Campaign, it is happening very dirty, so uncultured, so generally boorish without respect for decency that , frankly speaking, it is even surprising, that is , it seems that literally all Political Forces in poland understand what the political establishment finds. In crisis, if it is in crisis, then issues of development and strengthening of statehood are not on the agenda, and all Political Parties are simply trying to stay in power, to stay afloat, but this is a serious loss and strategic initiatives, and frankly, i cant imagine how they will build this strategy for the countrys development, why, because the shortterm vision is profound for any state, including poland. Thank you, andrei vladimirov, i would naturally like to inform you that on the eve of the electoral race , the rzeczpospolita newspaper published the results of a sociological survey, which were disappointing for the current authorities of the republic, here andrei viktorovich, let us comment on these results, this is what you think they are upset the ruling party today, but the key players, duda, morowiecki, and of course kaczynski, colleagues, you see on the screen, but it certainly doesnt look very optimistic, but on the one hand. On the other hand, this is a typical picture for the ruling party, for almost any ruling party, because those in power make mistakes, and these mistakes are now being used to discredit them and compromise them in the elections, that is, in principle this is normal, so another thing is that, uh, well, in general, the rating of all Political Forces in poland is not very high, although the confederation has recently risen in the rankings. What does this mean . That indeed, here are the rightwing parties that advocate, well, for example , an alternative for germany for absolutely friendly relations with the same russian federation, just like in poland, there are people who do not agree with the course that, you dont agree with me , i have great doubts about this, because by and large, if we take russia and belarus, then no matter who wins the elections, the ruling party will occupy stable antirussian, antiwhite position. We sincerely would like to preserve traditional polish values, the law of justice, by and large. Based on a traditional family, community, National State, generally understandable, good human values, but the problem is that poland found itself, to use such a figurative expression, on a plane that flies in a completely different direction, unfortunately, with with your permission, lets talk to a polish expert, who can you say for whom you would give your the mood in Society Today prevails and the voice . Hello, well, the choice is very difficult, or rather, i would say that there really are no significant differences, i mean in terms of Foreign Policy, in terms of some Foreign Policy strategies, between the main forces of poland, at least those that are currently in level of parliament, which is represented in the Current Parliament and which now intend to participate in the next elections, there are no significant differences, although of course there are certain nuances, but in short, we can say that the main the opposition force, the socalled Civil Coalition, used to. To berlin and brussels, while the ruling party, rights and justice are close to the anglosaxons, to london and washington, so in terms of Foreign Policy, if we take into account that through for some time, i am sure that Continental Europe will wake up and will one way or another change its attitude towards russia and belarus, including the entire union state. And belarus, uh, a more, say, or maybe less dangerous option is now coming to power this liberal Political Force, which is close to berlin, and which at least will not aggravate , follow this path of aggravation of relations, well, first of all with russia, there is a Third Political force this is the force in the ranks of this particular party there are several , im not talking about all the politicians of this party, but there are several individual politicians, including those in the leadership, who express a completely different point of view on. To one of your remarks, you said that today is still a Political Force with liberals, yes in terms of views, values, it is less dangerous, since we do not observe particularly such, you know, rather even aggressive rhetoric towards the same republic of belarus, but you understand that this is the rub. Todays party, the ruling party, yes, we see very often in the media morovetsky, duda, and people , frankly speaking, in my opinion, are such useful idiots, well, to be honest, recently they have managed to embassy with ukraine, with germany, here tusk is a time bomb, and although poland today, but here is a stronghold of traditional values, like belarus, like russia, like ukraine, it once was, but look at the experiment being carried out today, arent you afraid . Tusks Political Forces . You know, in fact , unfortunately, poland is not a subject of International Relations in europe, in eurasia, it is not an independent entity, so the question of who the next ruling party in poland will depend on is strategically important for us, because it is this vector, how much will they depend on berlin, brussels, how much will they depend your. And london is of strategic importance, from the point of view of polishbelarusian relations , which are probably most interesting to you, yes, let me remind you, in 2016, immediately after the law and Justice Party came to power, remember, to you the speaker of the polish senate, the then stanislaw karczewski, came to minsk, he even met with the president of belarus, there was a short period when the Current Ruling Party , justice, tried to establish normal, goodneighborly relations with minsk, all this ended instantly, there, let me remind you, then in the twentieth year the same ruling party tried to interfere in one way or another in the internal affairs of belarus, but nevertheless, this was due to the fact that each. Of these Political Forces has some moments when the level of this dependence on external factors decreases, then, uh , they try to pursue a more or less independent policy, regarding tusk and conservative values, so i want to emphasize that donald tusk is a very, well, i would say pragmatic politician, yes, so no there will be no revolutions, values, some kind of, i dont know, change in this regard, in the value plan, in terms of value policy, this shows that it may even be too naive to perceive it that way, thank you very much, mateuszki was with us as a political analyst, a polish analyst, andrey viktorovich, please tell me whether you agree with what you heard, well, yes and no, because the polish expert described this situation quite accurately for a polish analyst, but in general we see, well, that the process is going quite chaotically, and not just because , that the forces are equal, at. Thats how sociology shows, and also because none of these forces can gain a clear advantage through legal means, that is, they do not offer anything new, that is, they compete with approximately the same platforms, with the same programs, both of which are very well known, polish voters, both of them have made mistakes, including stupid ones, in this regard, no matter what they try now, no matter how they try to disguise themselves as defenders of values, or nontraditional ones, in fact, the voter knows their real value, here in this in relation to the future, one of them can break out solely due to some kind of hype, or explosive pr, if this happens, there are also other methods, yes there are other methods, but in this beautiful diagram, what scares me most is the third path , when our bullsman, defender of businessmen, titov, decided to create the party of growth, the question arose about what ideology there would be, taken as a basis, at the very first brief dedicated to the ideology of the future party, titov said, we are not with the right and not with the left, we lets go the other way, our way is the third way, this is our ideology this is the ideology of the third way, which means the journalist who at that moment was his adviser. But this was not agreed upon with him, when he saw it, his hair stood on end, on the same day he brought titus a book, the third way was written there, the author of this book was musalini, extremely interesting information, yes, i would like to literally draw your attention , on several points that the polish guest expressed to you, he said that, by and large, poland gave up the sovereign right to determine its politicians, by and large. No matter which party wins, well, yes, the decision on the political course of this country will be made by brussels , most likely, the United States of america and great britain, this is the main and first thing, by and large all these parties ended up in strategic impasse, because their voters, the population of poland, would like traditional values, would like a peaceful direction, would like interaction with their neighbors. And they are being pushed by the center of power to a completely different policy; declaring their desires, as you think, is possible in poland some revolutionary processes . No , you know, what other situation, thats where it comes from, this is a constant thesis, like a threat from russia, where comes the thesis about the need to militarize polish society, the population. Literally intimidated, by and large they believe in these theses, they are brainwashed, so when they make their political choice, they will not choose between the ideal and the real, they will choose between real parties, which do not suit them more or less , it will be a choice between bad and even worse, as a result, we will get the final result, political, but this will not cancel this situation in any case, i. Have already given the metaphor of an airplane, and tusk, all the other politicians, they are just passengers there, at best, lets continue the metaphor, i will say, that serdesa is serving drinks, she is from brussels, and a pilot from the United States of america is sitting at the wheel of the plane, this will probably be a complete picture, a german politician, and he decided to run for the next elections to the european parliament, naturally arises question well, how do you exchange your seat in the bundestag for a seat in the european parliament, and he answers me nadya, so the car is located in germany, in brussels, so you see, these are the prevailing moods, lets talk about certain political ones frauds , it is worth telling the audience about this, here is the unofficial leader of the coalition of rightwing Political Parties united rights, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, back in november 2022, announced the creation of an Election Protection corps, which includes 70,000 supporters, and this corps will monitor election procedures to identify facts of violation of electoral legislation by competitors. So kochinsky said, but it is possible that if peace fails in the elections, the body will be used to fabricate these very facts of violations of the electoral legislation and , of course, compromising the entire electoral campaign, please tell me, there was also quite a lot of falsification there, you know , even if this happens in america. Yes, but americans take a very long time to this was done so that the violations that are now observed in Election Campaigns in america would finally become widespread there. As for the poles, this technique they use with the body is a very clever manipulation technique, although not new. So what did they essentially decide to do . They realized that it was very big. Acting on behalf of society , these are observers, the observers will be different, if they independently appear somewhere and are picked up there by some other smaller parties, thats what they are accordingly, they can spy on violations not only among opponents, but among themselves, but this is not very good, so create a corps, all these observers, potential people, active. And aggressively minded passionaries, gather in this corps, organize, well, at the same time to teach how to identify those things that need to be identified there, to create an organized force out of them, all passionaries, that is , people who are generally not indifferent to how the elections will be held and those who are ready