The level of last year and in general. Today we are trading at the level of 60 comma and 8 . It is in belarusian goods on the domestic market, but this is not enough. The fact is that e in the doctrine national security. We have the figure eighty eighty five percent. We must achieve this share. We are interested in not only talking on the phone and communicating by email, but also to see each others eyes, to understand with whom you communicate on the other side, to show trust, respect for the partner and establish ties a little closer. How do they develop in everyday life . The dialogue is being held in minsk for the third time. The uniqueness of the forum is that manufacturers can personally meet with retailers , conduct direct negotiations and present novelties. Creation of a single cultural space strengthening friendship between the youth of belarus russia propaganda of the best ideas in the field of the modern Youth Movement the delegation of belarus went to smolensk where the sixteenth festival of youth for the union state will be held the start of participation was given by the solemn sending ceremony and the concept of the presentation of the delegation members at the republican youth house by the most active participant of the past of the festival were awarded diplomas, and parting words for the newlymade delegates. Sure, that the central events will be not only the opening of the closing of the festival, but this is an extensive Competitive Program during which the guys will also visit the settlements of the smolensk region, the border of the republic, belarus well, they will do it together with such a youth mix. E together, guys from belarus from russia will e demonstrate their mastery of art to people from the hinterland, but people from large regional centers. And it s great that this whole process is accompanied by our media, which will also allow you to plunge into this atmosphere of the festival and all our viewers as part of a delegation of about a hundred belarusian girls and boys. The central event of the forum will be the International Youth song performers competition. More information at my colleagues at 15 00 on our air see you soon. Winter jump hard natural riches of belarus shmatem prostrate you can joke around here there is a spherical lake in the nonrandom name of gods wok, in spite of the lake tore off the dyakaya with its obrysam. What are the shapes of the wolf in lake maya of the right circle, i dont change like that for stretching debts, there is a distant one, that the wok soars for the right people from heaven and shreds them such choral chandeliers in belarus hello, i greet everyone who is with us today, our studios are the most interesting interlocutors experienced diplomat. Now deputy head of the commission on International Affairs andrei svinykh, as well as political scientist alexei germant. Also today , a russian Intelligence Officer will be in touch with us. In the past. Today we are Andrey Bezrukov, professor of gimo, in a word, a great opportunity talk about events and meanings, but lets start thats what were here for, that the program is not everything, and peaceful ways for ukraine, at the past antibrix itself, this was discussed. Only now, it seems like in the movies they are setting up for a long war. Listen for yourself. Uhhuh im cutting it. Forgiveness, guilt, we are ready for people. Oh, it will be possible, but to minimize the victims, yak hid israel there. I said, it can also be possible even on the territory of russia, well, great ryzy, which exactly laid my very. Well, look at this it would seem a small fragment. A how many things the man said, no negotiations for you and tune in to a long war, this was also said. Should the war go to the territory of russia, you and i understand that such an interview is usually not spontaneous, and something tells me that in this particular case there was no spontaneity, in general, what are Andrey Vladimirovich zelensky ready for in this case, the ukrainian population of ukrainian spectators. Well, first of all, one important point must be taken into account, uh, the ukrainian leadership does not make any decisions, it is located completely under the control of external control centers, these external centers need a war in order to deplete russia in order to ideally bring it to some well , difficult period, economic, political , whatever, well, lets not forget that russia is not a direction the main blow is the main conflict of the xxi century. Its still a conflict with china, uh, but its another matter that i think hes wishful thinking. Well, the war wont last long. And here you need to understand one more simply important point the current leadership, realizing that ukraine will not have victory, its just playing for time in order to get additional income and solve some of their issues, but clearly they are not interested in regulating the situation, not in ensuring the future for the ukrainian people. And this is really a tragedy ivanovich. Well , it seems to me that we will really say the conditions for maintaining power for zelensky. So the team is the continuation of this war, because you give us a different mode. Yes, questions will arise. Still, proefficiency management the same army about how much ukraine has become dependent and lost its sovereignty , these questions will be asked, like e. The mothers of the dead will also ask questions. And why were these meat assaults . Yes, which ended in nothing and so on. This is a cumulative effect. This will sooner or later affect specifically zelensky and, in principle, all the power configuration that exists there, but as long as they are in the zombie state, that is, when it is coded by external, lets say, players, it can continue long enough. But we all know that sooner or later these zombies run out of any er, powers. Yes, and we see that this moment is already approaching, because , well, obviously not enough. Not only weapons. And as a matter of fact, some kind of morale and fighting spirit. Hmm, so they want to stretch it out as long as possible. This is a pleasure in quotation marks, especially western states that do business on this, but this will not last long and you will have to think about a different format of interaction, too , russia well, we already understood that zelensky this is the president of the war, there is no doubt, on this score, there is no longer any. And there are outside other ukraine well, people are not for this, there are politicians of power who are able to offer and, most importantly, implement it in another alternative. Lets say. So a certain peaceful option or option. Even this war with the possibility of escaping the collapse that is still looming on the horizon of ukraine i think that these forces exist, of course, but deep inside. Yes, because now they are under the pressure of terror, it is difficult for them to declare any position, even if it is neutral. Yes, at least hmm not to mention there, take into account the interests of neighbors in belarus, russia , but everything can change, because today ukraine is not so independent to completely clean up the entire field. Yes, we all understand that politicians of various kinds can come to the west as well. Yes, who will say, well, thats enough, probably, thats such a frantic war. Lets listen to these, that is, maybe this. Well, of course, small comments. We still have to give ourselves to the fathers, in the essence of the ukrainian government. That is , it is a totalitarian system, which is completely destroyed everyone. It is clear to the opponents that 80 of the population of ukraine may not support this course, but the interests of the people are realized only if there is an organizational tool a political party, a leader, and so such parties and leaders in ukraine are simply eliminated. And so it is impossible to wait for any change. Remember germany. There was like an antihitler underground, but Political Parties began to form the organization of society only after the red army came there. I think it will be here zelensky is well aware of the same in his dependence on, lets say, partners, but he knows how to play this role, it seems he is ready from the game to the end in the same interview from which we started today he corrects himself and says that they say victory is victory , over russia will not be ours, but our partners, who are given to us with an eyebrow. That is, until the end. Still, it does justice to the fact that without them there are two moments. Eh, alekseevich correctly said the point is that ukraine can no longer resist. Well, really, then there it survives solely on the financial and military support of western countries, if suddenly for some reason this support would stop. Uh, the war would be over within a week at the most. Well, lets then partners and talk everything you need to know about the high relations of kiev and the washingtons in a peculiar way admonished zelensky american guests you must win so that we do not lose a group of senators arrived in kiev to personally congratulate zelensky on a holiday that hardly has anything to do with todays ukraine Independence Day senator Lindsey Graham to all appearances, actually ordered another vladimir to hold an election in 2024. And she declared the need for victories to the all, at the front further. I will read slowly. And you think about it so the words of graham you must win a war that we cannot afford to lose. That is, it turns out that thousands of ukrainian guys die for the sake of their uncles victory. Sam we have him now senator c. What are you talking about, i mean, they wont let him, lets say , get out of the game, yes, but id be here. I would repeat this wording again before literally half a year ago this is categorically negativity, but in reality the conflict in ukraine is not a conflict between russia and ukraine, it is a conflict between the National State of russia and the owners of transnational financial corporations here. Look at what kind of financial oligarchy you know, which controls the state apparatuses of the us uk eu and leads. War and this is a very important point and look how interesting they are now turning. Closer closer to the elections, the ukrainians are all in including senators, graham says that it is impossible to cancel the choice not for elections, and in the same interview that we have already talked about today, he makes it clear in such a very cunning manner in his usual manner that i will not give back the money put on weapons to spend on elections. That is, he understands that the chair is rocking very seriously. Naturally, even more so , he can earn money on weapons for his colleagues and from that very financial oligarch. Its profitable, to be honest , it pushes him to the polls then. But still, it seems to me that there is a certain desire about western. Elite to build a framework for zelensky we see that he periodically breaks down and begins to accuse their claims of making a small mara. Small weapon, little money, here, and here it is, well, in general, hard formatting, if they have accepted. To perform green ritual actions under the guise of elections, then they must be performed and , accordingly, the conditions must be met in order to receive the next portion, money , a weapon, that is, it is kept in control mode. And naturally. Uh, the elite in kiev would like under the guise of war. Uh, intro martial law, cancel all elections and further toughen that totalitarian regime. Yes, so that there werent any at all, but opportunities to somehow move this power. They stayed there, if not forever, then for as long as they were supposed to be there, so this is a struggle, including for control. Yes, so that they are more obedient ukrainian politicians , specifically zelensky, but also so that american senators are representatives of the oligarchs. Still , they were confident in the correct investment of their money. Me here i completely agree with this evaluation. Here i would simply add one such aspect, the thing is that they are western. The elites, they are accustomed to the show, they have long turned the election process into a definitely beautiful show, there is even a term. Strictly speaking , western researchers of the country. After democracy, democratic processes have already been emasculated there and replaced by certain ones, so to speak, ritual ritual is a very good word. Alexei said the same here. Ah, the ukrainian government. Says why we will be hypocritical . Lets cancel elections , so to speak, this is a more radical position. A they say no, lets do it beautifully. Lets just falsify them, but you mean that there are no free , honest elections that could move this government at least one iota, neither in the first nor in the second case, rotation instead of zelensky to become, except for zaluzhny or budanov, it will be three father step. Uh, again in washington, uh, again, clearly not in a democratic way, but for reasons of expediency, if zelensky works out effectively enough the tasks that come from there, he will replace him. Here you go, e from the fact that for us an important signal of mood, at least this autotraining for the ukrainian population, which was voiced by zelensky in the long war. This is a signal to us that we should not reduce our combat readiness as one of the factors of our security. Well, probably along with the fact that we have Tactical Nuclear weapons. These , of course, are those joint actions that are being taken on our military together with the dude, and but we saw that after the death of prigozhin, there was a lot of speculation about the fate of the wagnerites on our territories and Alexander Lukashenko dotted everything and i propose to listen to this issue. Then we will discuss this topic, it was also important that wagner lived in belarus, no matter how much someone would like it, we shot with prigozhin and everyone. How will wagner be located with us and these pictures from space that we are dismantling something . Why do we remove the extra tents, so many of these tents are not needed. So much is not needed here remains the core. Uh, someone left. Here on vacation. Uh, someone, uh, in general, decided to live on the sidelines, but telephones addresses passwords in this headquarters. In this core are known for a few days, everyone will be here up to 10,000 people. Now there is no need to keep them, so they dont bake anywhere as much as we need and i will not live and work here for this unit. Alex i have such a question hmm and for whom in the first place Alexander Lukashenko thats all. E, says, what do you think, to whom these words are addressed, but it seems to me that there is also an internal recipient of this information, and externally, but internally probably if we are talking about the union space, also in russia there were many questions about what would happen to wagner. Here after the tragic death of the leadership. And, of course, they are closely following the fate of these people in our western direction in poland, especially. Yes , for them this is just an existential factor. I watch as a result of the elections. It seems to me that it even depends on where to move to wagner there, to which part of belarus, of course, this is also manipulation. They sell fear. They sell threats to their population. Yes, and on this trying to raise the rating of the ruling party. And by the way, it turns out, yes, because they know how to intimidate after all. But in fact , the president , as always, in such an attention, manner, dot everything, that is, these people will help our army. They will perform certain tasks that we will need, but naturally, we are not planning aggressive actions, but we see perfectly what is happening there and therefore , uh, such a formation, as one of the tools, is far from superfluous, especially in in the conditions of these hybrid conflicts, when it is not clear who can penetrate the territory, when the state disowns some, say, military formations very often and we see this happening all over the world, therefore, i think that for us these people will be useful some of them really will work with us. Well, some of it is optional. Uh, there are different contracts, including in africa, but if necessary, we heard, they can be collected. We are very fast. Yes, i absolutely agree with this approach. A i just highlighted the main point here. Why the death of the leader wagner will not affect the effectiveness of the organization , the thing is that, like any institution of the pmc , it is organized in such a way that one person, escaping and disappearing, does not break the entire Organizational Team structure. This is always thought through, always done, and therefore , without a doubt, dude wagner will continue to function as effectively without prigozhin, the second moment that needs to be determined. I think its important to emphasize this. Though this is the moment, maybe painful even for the Belarusian Society , the thing is that, well, we are not ready to actively defend our homeland. I get asked this question very often in the classrooms. We are ready to take up arms to defend our country. Army, yes , and the president must be given credit for doing. Everything possible goes to any steps in order to prevent an open Armed Conflict along the perimeter of our border, thereby saving both the population and society. Remember in your time. He asked the question that sovereignty is worth a lot we are ready to pay for this sovereignty. Heres the question today. Eh, the meaning of this question is beginning to be fully revealed e and the appearance in our country of both Tactical Nuclear weapons and warner pmcs are, in fact, measures that are aimed at making any conflict in god our borders impossible. It plays a very Important Role here. Why because its 10,000 people who went through a real riot of clashes. They are worth much more than uh, they took the entire baltic army and half of the polish. And this means that their appearance here balances the potential for offensive defense and makes, in principle, any adventure. In this direction, meaningless. We said, but you need to say ib college. We touched on the topic, i understand very well the wagner pmc, the number of versions of the reasons for this plane crash, which, well, happened suddenly and for many it was a shock of confusion, but for someone it became a reason to conduct their own special psychological operations, but nevertheless, how not to touch on this topic , the impossibility of all versions. Which one do you think is the most plausible, if you follow logic, who benefits . Well, the first thing i will say is, uh, the most implausible version. It seems to me all the same version of