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Keir starmer is not for turnIng and sets out a vision of a Country that belongs to you. Is that a vision that buy Into . That you can buy Into . Welome to newsnight live from liverpool at the Labour Party Conference with Interviews and Insight. In a few mInutes, the Environment Secretary we Talk Austerity and what he can do to stop sewage beIng dumped Into our rivers. Your panel this evenIng political editor of the Liverpool Echo, liam thorp. Labourmp, Iner'>Barry GardIner. And labour peer, ayesha hazarika. Keir starmer by The Way is on En Route to New York right now for a un general Ing'>Assembly MeetIng can anyone there do anythIng to stop the conflict between Israel And Hezbollah from escalatIng further . 564 people In lebanon have been killed so far In israeli strikes. Hezbollah, seen as a Terror Organisation by the british government, has vowed to fire even more missiles Into the north of israel. We have some Ing-news'>BreakIng News from the Inister'>Prime MInister on this . Prime mInister on this . We have heard from Inister'>Prime MInister on this . We have heard from what Inister'>Prime MInister on this . We have heard from what the Inister'>Prime MInister on this . We have heard from what the prime Inister'>Prime MInister on this . We have i heard from what the Inister'>Prime MInister is sayIng on that flight to New York, he has a significant message to Uk Nationals In lebanon, he says the most important message to british nationals In lebanon is to leave immediately. It is important to be really clear, now its the time to leave. They say to do it now because there are still commercial flights available and mInisters are repeatIng their call for a ceasefire. RepeatIng their call for a ceasefire. ~. ,. ~ repeatIng their call for a ceasefire. ~. ~. , repeatIng their call for a ceasefire. ~. ,. , ceasefire. We will come back to that a little later meanwhile, here In liverpool Keir Starmer did lift the spirits of the delegates In the Auditorium Today with his vision of national renewal, promisIng this a britaIn that belongs to you. We will stabilise our economy, clear out the tory rot, fix the foundation and deliver the mandate of change. A britaIn built to last, built with respect, built with pride. Because together we have shown that britaIn belongs to you. Thank you, conference cheerIng Iner'>Barry GardIner is here. Did Keir Starmer meet the moment for you . Did Keir Starmer meet the moment for ou . ,. ,. , did Keir Starmer meet the moment for ou . ,. ,. , you . Yes, In a number of ways. It was important you . Yes, In a number of ways. It was important what you . Yes, In a number of ways. It was important what he you . Yes, In a number of ways. It was important what he said you . Yes, In a number of ways. It was important what he said Abouti You . Yes, In a number of ways. It. Was important what he said about his sister. He reInforced what he was talkIng about, a vision of a Country where we have self respect, and we respect Each Other. And that played off the most important part of his speech for me, which was what he said about racism and how it is somethIng that has no place In this Country, and that was a really powerful message. If you look at The Way the audience responded, everybody got to their feet and applauded, thank god we have a Inister'>Prime MInister who is sayIng i will call the racists what they are. But it was done In a way that taught positively about immigration talked. Yes, we have to deal with the problems of immigration and illegal immigration, but actually said that we need migration Into this Country, so it was a very balanced, very well put together speech, because it had the vision of a society that was respectful and self respectIng but it also tackled that racist element withIn society and said, that is not the vision we have for our Country. And said, that is not the vision we have for our Country. What did you take from it . Have for our Country. What did you take from it . What have for our Country. What did you take from it . What will have for our Country. What did you take from it . What will the have for our Country. What did you | take from it . What will the Country take from it . What will the Country take from it . It take from it . What will the Country take from it . Take from it . It was a very strong seech take from it . It was a very strong speech and take from it . It was a very strong speech and it take from it . It was a very strong speech and it helped take from it . It was a very strong speech and it helped to take from it . It was a very strong speech and it helped to set take from it . It was a very strong speech and it helped to set mood here because to be honest, comIng here, here because to be honest, comIng here, there here because to be honest, comIng here, there were difficult headlInes and of here, there were difficult headlInes and of course the mood here is, we have and of course the mood here is, we have just and of course the mood here is, we have just won an election for the first time have just won an election for the first time In 14 years, and thats an important thIng to note, has only ever been an important thIng to note, has only ever been seven labour Inister'>Prime MInisters ever been seven labour Inister'>Prime MInisters In the history of Country and only mInisters In the history of Country and only four have changed the admInistration, so it was him beIng prime admInistration, so it was him beIng Inister'>Prime MInisterial, very much, and about Inister'>Prime MInisterial, very much, and about the Inister'>Prime MInisterial, very much, and about the mood here In last year, to be about the mood here In last year, to he brutally about the mood here In last year, to be brutally honest, last year there was a be brutally honest, last year there was a lot be brutally honest, last year there was a lot more excitement, because we were was a lot more excitement, because we were on was a lot more excitement, because we were on the verge of an election. There we were on the verge of an election. There was we were on the verge of an election. There was a we were on the verge of an election. There was a crackle In the air. This year, there was a crackle In the air. This year, because we have moved from a party year, because we have moved from a party of year, because we have moved from a party of protest to power, everyone In the party of protest to power, everyone In the Room Party of protest to power, everyone In the room and he himself as the prime In the room and he himself as the Inister'>Prime MInister, not leader of the opposition, there is the weight of responsibility as well, so i thought it was responsibility as well, so i thought it was a responsibility as well, so i thought it was a strong speech and a very solid it was a strong speech and a very solid speech but appropriate, it was not a solid speech but appropriate, it was not a jubilant speech, this is my victory not a jubilant speech, this is my victory tap, not a jubilant speech, this is my victory lap, and i agree with what barry victory lap, and i agree with what barry said victory lap, and i agree with what barry said about the passage on the riotIng, barry said about the passage on the riotIng, it barry said about the passage on the riotIng, it was very artful and he showed riotIng, it was very artful and he showed strong values, usIng the Word Racist showed strong values, usIng the Word Racist and showed strong values, usIng the Word Racist and a showed strong values, usIng the Word Racist and a big attack agaInst populism and the rise of the far right populism and the rise of the far right and populism and the rise of the far right and nigel farage, and also sayIng right and nigel farage, and also sayIng we have got to take tough decisions sayIng we have got to take tough decisions. The thread runnIng through decisions. The thread runnIng through the speech, it was not fake azz through the speech, it was not fake jazz hands, through the speech, it was not fake jazz hands, everythIng is goIng to be ok. Jazz hands, everythIng is goIng to be ok. It jazz hands, everythIng is goIng to be ok, it was a message that we are goIng be ok, it was a message that we are goIng to be ok, it was a message that we are goIng to build a Country that belongs goIng to build a Country that belongs to you but there will be tough belongs to you but there will be tough decisions we are goIng to have tough decisions we are goIng to have to make tough decisions we are goIng to have to make. We tough decisions we are goIng to have to make. ~. , tough decisions we are goIng to have to make. ~. ,. ,. , to make. We will talk about that In this programme. To make. We will talk about that In this programme. What to make. We will talk about that In this programme. What will to make. We will talk about that In this programme. What will the this programme. What will the readers of the Liverpool Echo have taken from that . Readers of the Liverpool Echo have taken from that . They will have not learned anythIng taken from that . They will have not learned anythIng new taken from that . They will have not learned anythIng new about taken from that . They will have not learned anythIng new about keir learned anythIng new about Keir Starmer learned anythIng new about Keir Starmer apart learned anythIng new about Keir Starmer apart from learned anythIng new about Keir Starmer apart from he learned anythIng new about Keir Starmer apart from he has learned anythIng new about Keir Starmer apart from he has got. Learned anythIng new about Keir Starmer apart from he has got better at deliverIng starmer apart from he has got better at deliverIng these starmer apart from he has got better at deliverIng these speeches. 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And the crescendo at the End Wasi quite impressive, actually. People In liverpool. Quite impressive, actually. People In liverpool, there quite impressive, actually. People In liverpool, there are quite impressive, actually. People In liverpool, there are massive i In liverpool, there are massive challenges In liverpool, there are massive challenges around In liverpool, there are massive challenges around deprivation i In liverpool, there are massive i challenges around deprivation and poverty. Challenges around deprivation and poverty. They challenges around deprivation and poverty. They are challenges around deprivation and poverty, they are waitIng challenges around deprivation and poverty, they are waitIng for i challenges around deprivation and poverty, they are waitIng for the l poverty, they are waitIng for the bil poverty, they are waitIng for The Big Idea poverty, they are waitIng for The Big Idea of poverty, they are waitIng for The Big Idea of this poverty, they are waitIng for The Big Idea of this labour poverty, they are waitIng for the i Big Idea of this labour government, and we Big Idea of this labour government, and we dont Big Idea of this labour government, and we dont quite Big Idea of this labour government, and we dont quite know Big Idea of this labour government, and we dont quite know what Big Idea of this labour government, and we dont quite know what it i Big Idea of this labour government, and we dont quite know what it is l and we dont quite know what it is exactly and we dont quite know what it is exactly they and we dont quite know what it is exactly they want and we dont quite know what it is exactly they want to and we dont quite know what it is exactly they want to achieve i and we dont quite know what it is exactly they want to achieve In i and we dont quite know what it isl exactly they want to achieve In this first term. 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NIne weeks is handled the riotIng, and he is leanIng Into that. He i nIne weeks is handled the riotIng, i and he is leanIng Into that. He kept gettIng and he is leanIng Into that. He kept gettIng applause and he is leanIng Into that. He kept gettIng applause and and he is leanIng Into that. He kept gettIng applause and he and he is leanIng Into that. He kept gettIng applause and he said and he is leanIng Into that. He kept gettIng applause and he said that l gettIng applause and he said that about gettIng applause and he said that about three gettIng applause and he said that about three times, gettIng applause and he said that about three times, so gettIng applause and he said that about three times, so he gettIng applause and he said that about three times, so he workedl gettIng applause and he said that i about three times, so he worked out that was about three times, so he worked out that was a about three times, so he worked out that was a success. About three times, so he worked out that was a success. The about three times, so he worked out that was a success. That was a success. The atmosphere In this conference that was a success. The atmosphere In this conference is that was a success. The atmosphere In this conference is much that was a success. The atmosphere In this conference is much improved j In this conference is much improved after the speech i was speakIng to one of the closest aides of the Inister'>Prime MInister and they said he clearly had had his weetabix this mornIng. Clearly had had his weetabix this mornInu. ,. F clearly had had his weetabix this mornIng. Quite i clearly had had his weetabix this mornIng. Quite a i clearly had had his weetabix this i mornIng. Quite a few. MornIng. How many . Quite a few. Bar said mornIng. How many . Quite a few. Itarry said he mornIng. How many . Quite a few. Barry said he mentioned mornIng. How many . Quite a few. Barry said he mentioned his mornIng. How many . Quite a few. | barry said he mentioned his sister, who is a carer and he also talked about his brother and his learnIng difficulties, and that was to highlight his values about how everyone should be valued. A Big Focus On Labour Values and a belief on public services but not backIng down on the tough decisions that need to be taken, and he believes to stabilise the economy. It has been a difficult run up to the conference with all the focus on donations and his suits, so i caught up with his Colleague Peter Kyle and this is what he had to say. I must say, sometimes i see you lookIng a bit scruffy, but today youre lookIng spectacular. The difference is, i paid for this suit. Yeah. And he didnt pay for his. Is he payIng a big price for The Way his suit was paid for . We, um. Today is all about the future. And its about the big issues facIng our Country. And you expect a Inister'>Prime MInister, yes, to look good, to present himself well, on behalf of our nation, but you expect him to be tacklIng those really fundamental big issues and thats what you saw today. I caught icaught up i caught up with the former Home Secretary David Blunkett not long after that who had a slight raisIng of the eyebrow. Im always lookIng for what is the vision, and Keir Starmer did start to talk about the renewal of our Country and i liked that. I would like him to have said just a little bit more about the milestones, The Way In which not what were doIng immediately, which is good. All the thIngs he talked about are very encouragIng and we want to will them on after 80 days. But i thInk we also need to know what next year will look like. And i fear that were waitIng for the budget on the 30th of october. A lot of people waitIng for the budget. We will talk about that shortly. I spoke to the Environment Secretary and a close ally of the Inister'>Prime MInister, did he thInk Keir Starmer had done enough to shift the dial after a rocky few days . In politics, we have been In it long enough to know that you have difficult weeks from time to time, but what he was doIng today was connectIng to what people voted for In july, when connectIng to what people voted for Injuly, when we won this huge majority In parliament for change. The theme of this conference is change begIns, and we have started makIng those changes. The Gb Energy bill, goIng through parliament right now, the water special measures bill, part of my responsibility. GoIng through parliament right now so we can ban the payment of multi million Pound Bonuses to Water Bosses who are overseeIng catastrophic levels of pollution Into our waterways. I want to come back to that. I just want to pick out some more stuff from Keir Starmer� s speech, and then ill come to your brief. Keir starmer said today, no return to Tory Austerity. Does that mean there will be Labour Austerity . No, there will be no return to austerity. Thats crystal clear. What about Labour Austerity . What we need to do. There wont be any Labour Austerity. What we need to do is grow the economy so that we can brIng In the additional revenues Into the treasury to refund our broken public services, but there would be down payments In any case. You know, closIng the non Dom Tax Loophole allows us to open up 40,000 additional nhs appoIntments every week. I want to concentrate on the stuff he said today, to try and Interrogate what he means. Because people are askIng, what does that mean for me . So, he said the cost of fillIng the Black Hole In the public fInances will be shared fairly. His words. And we will do this In a Labour Way. What does the Labour Way mean for people watchIng right now . Well, it means doIng it In a way that is fair. He was poIntIng, wasnt he, to what George Osborne said when he became chancellor, when he said the broadest shoulders will bear the greatest burden, and the Polar Opposite happened. Weve just gone through a period where britaIn has had the worst decade for Wage Growth sInce the Great Depression of the 1930s, so ordInary people paid the price for tory failure. That will not happen with this government. You mentioned George Osborne, and obviously Keir Starmer today literally quoted George Osborne when he said, were all In this together. Now, that, for some people sends an absolute chill through them because that means austerity. The reason he used that phrase was to show how George Osborne made promises that he then broke. And that is why trust In politics and all politicians, if im honest, has been shattered. Its easy for George Osborne to say thIngs and then break those promises. This government, Keir Starmer, is absolutely committed to doIng what he says. Thats why hes beIng so honest about the very difficult Inheritance that we see ourselves with today, the difficult choices that will be required. But its important that people see, too, that there is a vision for where we want to get to for a fairer britaIn, where public Services Work and people get a pay rise. And that will take some time. He talked about collective endeavour for national renewal. AgaIn, his words. But he said it will be hard. He said it will be tough. There are people strugglIng right now. Can you understand why what he said today might actually terrify some people who could be thInkIng, we cant take any more paIn . People want help, but people are reasonable. People know that you Cant Fix all of the problems accumulated over 14 years of failure under the conservative government. But people also might be thInkIng. They know that. They also might be thInkIng they Cant Bear any more of this burden. They want the hope. They need to know that the foundations are beIng fixed so we can rebuild a Country that works for everybody. But not on the backs of them. Absolutely. No, no, it will be done In a fair way. Well wait to see the budget. I dont know the detail of the budget. It hasnt all been worked out yet, but it will be a budget that seeks to share the burden fairly, and the poorest will be supported through all of this. But the prize In all of this is, if we can grow the economy, and a lot of the thIngs were all focussed on right now are how we grow the economy, then you can get billions of extra revenues Into the Exchequer And Use that to fund the public services that we all want to see improvIng. Its a big if, though you Cant Guarantee the economy will grow to the level that will yield the kInd of Income'>Tax Income that you want. You Cant Guarantee it, but you can do the thIngs that are goIng to give us the best possible chance of gettIng it. Gb energy, i mentioned it already a couple of times. You have so im goIng to pause you there because time is limited. In doIng that, that isjobs up and down the Country, you know. People were poorer at The End of the last parliament than they were at the begInnIng, accordIng to the resolution foundation. Thats never happened before In modern history. Thats right. Can you promise to people watchIng now that they will be better off In five years time compared to now . We will do our level best to ensure that thats all we can do. So you Cant Promise that . Im goIng to refer to my sector now, if thats ok. Were workIng to brIng In over £80 Billion worth of Investment Into the water sector, startIng next april. Now, that will, on the one hand, it will help to clear up the Pollution Problem that weve got, but it will create jobs In every region of this Country. Good, secure, well paid jobs for people who may not have those jobs at the moment. Were lookIng at reformIng skills so we can have foundation apprenticeships, which traIn people up with the skills they need to take advantage of those jobs. That is money In peoples pockets, that is supportIng families. Its also tax revenues Into the exchequer, which will then be spent to improve services like the national health service. So well do our level best. 0k. Thats your promise. Youll do your level best . Thats all we can say. 0k. Lets talk about the environment fInally then, because Keir Starmer said In his Speech Today, we cant afford any more polluted rivers. In your Speech Yesterday to the conference, you said, Water Bosses are responsible for repeated illegal Ing'>Sewage DumpIng wont get their multi million Pound Bonuses. So you are goIng to let them illegally dump sewage for a bit . Uh, no. Yes. No, what we Intend to do is. I thInk what people fInd desperately unfair is that Water Bosses are payIng themselves vast bonuses while overseeIng failure. Absolutely. So why are you goIng to let them illegally dump sewage Into rivers at all . Were not, what were goIng to do is were goIng to ask the regulator to set metrics for achievement, and they will get bonuses if they achieve those objectives. The key word here is repeated illegal Ing'>Sewage DumpIng, then they might lose their bonus, repeated. Were not goIng to reward people for illegal Ing'>Sewage DumpIng. Why have you got the word repeated In there at all . Even more importantly. Please can you answer that question . Why have you got the word repeated In there at all . Because thats, the problem is, if there is Ing'>Sewage DumpIng goIng on and you dont fix the cause of it, that is where the problem is. Our Infrastructure is so broken that some of it is leakIng sewage out Into the waterways. Now the people responsible for the Water Companies can use money to fix that so it doesnt happen agaIn. What im tryIng to do is encourage them to fix the leaks that are causIng the sewage to pollute our waterways. But more importantly than that, i want to clean up the problem entirely. Hence the 80 Billion plus of Investment comIng In next year. So how many times will they be allowed to illegally dump sewage Into rivers before their bonus is taken away . The Water Regulator will be settIng. How many times . Well, it may be zero, but the Water Regulator will be asked to set metrics for achievement. And then bosses In the water sector, like bosses In any other company, will be paid for success, not forfailure. Thank you vey much, steve reed, thanks for talkIng to newsnight. Thank you. I want to pick up this Note Return to Tory Austerity, but its goIng to be paInful, we know that so whats it mean . It be paInful, we know that so whats it mean . Be paInful, we know that so whats it mean . ,. , be paInful, we know that so whats it mean . ,. , i. It mean . It is InterestIng, as you said, it mean . It is InterestIng, as you said. Keir it mean . It is InterestIng, as you said, Keir Starmer it mean . It is InterestIng, as you said, Keir Starmer In it mean . It is InterestIng, as you said, Keir Starmer In his it mean . It is InterestIng, as you said, Keir Starmer In his speech, j it mean . It is InterestIng, as you i said, Keir Starmer In his speech, no return to Tory Austerity so maybe people thInk there might be another form of Austerity And Steve reed is very close Inet-colleague'>CabInet Colleague of the Inister'>Prime MInister and he said there would be no return to austerity and the reason this is, people are Interested In it, i remember talkIng to gloat Leigh Gordon Brown at the time of the global crash and he said, i thought you were goIng and boom and bust, and he said he was only endIng the tour We Buster pulled earlier i caught up withjohn mcdonnell, the father of the Labour Left is now sittIng as an Independent mp, and he addressed a packed meetIng of socialist mps and said they all are this talk of no return to austerity but he said their constituents are hearIng contradictory Int'>Messages PrInt from this government. Youre Ing-austerity'>EndIng Austerity but at the same time, youre not scrappIng the two child limit and youre IntroducIng the Means Test of Inter-fuel-allowance'>WInter Fuel Allowance, which will put many of our constituents Into hardship and risk. So between now and october 30th, were mobilizIng to say to the labour leadership, if you really mean Ing-austerity'>EndIng Austerity, lets really end austerity. And that will mean tough choices, but not tough choices for our people back In the constituencies. Theyve had enough of tough choices. Its about makIng sure those, as keir said, the broadest shoulders carry the heaviest burden and that means redistributive taxation. Im ishter Interested to hear what you thInk of this, when listenIng to steve reed, you were sayIng about and shakIng your head but why . 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For us, havIng launched the Hillsborough Law now campaign In manchester together, just comIng out of the pandemic, emotional really. We exchanged a look or two there. You know, keir promised it In this hall two years ago. And to see him then deliver. Actually, lets remember this. The people of his city has taken this Country on a justice journey. They have made this Country face up to some of the thIngs that are deeply, deeply wrong with it. Weve now had a Inister'>Prime MInister whos committed to change that. Its a massive day for the northwest of england, but particularly the city of liverpool. As mayor of liverpool, what does this law mean for the 97, the families of the 97 . Victoria, if i canjust say that we were maligned and we were besmirched and they fought agaInst that, for all that. What it means for the 97 now is that theres a legacy of what happened. For people across the Country, just put Into context how important this is. It put Into context how important this is. 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