Transcripts For BBCNEWS Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg 2024092

He is One of putins fiercest critics and feared for his life while he was locked up in One of the kremlin� s jails. But now he is free and has been reunited with his wife and has been reunited with his wife and children. They tell us their incredible story. I was woken up, i saw that it was dark. I asked what time it was. They said sam, and they told me to get up and get ready in ten minutes. And at that moment i was absolutely certain that i was being led out to be executed. And with us in liverpool, the Housing Campaigner Kwajo tweneboa, the boss of iceland, richard walker, who was a cOnvert to the Labour Cause last year. And claire ainsley, who worked for Keir Starmer during the hard yards of oppositiOn. Lets start with whats making the news. No surprise, the mail and the express both splash On Downing-street-rows'>Downing Street Rows a picture of Keir Starmer and his Chief Of Staff in a corporate box at the football. The observer and the mirror are a bit more friendly with the pm vowing no going back to austerity. With the budget fast approaching. The sunday times says our guest Angela Rayner might have broken the rules over her trip to New York funded by a Onor'>Party DOnor. And tory Ontender-robertjenrick'>Leadership COntender Robertjenrick claims in the telegraph that Terror Suspects are getting into the uk On small boats helljoin us next week. You know all of the characters involved in what is going On here in the first few mOnths of this new government. What is going On . Well. Government. What is going On . Well, it is not an ideal government. What is going On . Well, it is not an ideal start government. What is going On . Well, it is not an ideal start to government. What is going On . M it is not an ideal start to Onference'>Party COnference. I am sure nobody is really pretending in The Party that the last week also does not matter. It does matter how the public perceive these kind of things. But as you say, it is the first cOnference that labour have had in power for 14 years. So cOnference that labour have had in powerfor 14 years. So i do think cOnference that labour have had in power for 14 years. So i do think we will start to see much more attentiOn shifted to what is it that The Party wants to say to the country about how they plan to fix the problem is that we have got. But wh do the problem is that we have got. But why do you think that these things have gOne wrOng . Is it growing pains because they are new or is it something more serious . Well, i think there something more serious . Well, i think there has something more serious . Well, i think there has been something more serious . Well, i think there has been a something more serious . Well, i think there has been a Bit Something more serious . Well, i think there has been a bit of think there has been a bit of reflectiOn, i think we have seen that in the last few days. I think if anything, that is the thing that you want The Party to take from it, which is, even if things are in the rules, how does the public perceive it . It is what labour got so right for so lOng, was thinking about, how is the public viewing this . If they are going to be The Party that is the Peoples party, then seeing things through their eyes is going to be really important so i hope thatis to be really important so i hope that is the learning that will come from this. ,. , that is the learning that will come from this. ,. ,. From this. This time last year, richard, from this. This time last year, richard. You from this. This time last year, richard, you told from this. This time last year, richard, you told us from this. This time last year, richard, you told us that from this. This time last year, l richard, you told us that labour looked good to you and switched allegiance, at One time you wanted to be a cOnservative mp, what do you make of their first couple of mOnths in government . Make of their first couple of mOnths in government . Well, i mean, there has been a in government . Well, i mean, there has been a bit in government . Well, i mean, there has been a bit of in government . Well, i mean, there has been a bit of rolling in government . Well, i mean, there has been a bit of rolling the in government . Well, i mean, there has been a bit of rolling the pitch has been a bit of rolling the On'>Pitch And ExpectatiOn management. It is fair to and expectatiOn management. It is fair to level with the country but it is also fair to level with the country but it is also good politics, right . But ithink it is also good politics, right . But i think going forward, we need a visiOn i think going forward, we need a On-you'>VisiOn You i think going forward, we need a visiOn. You know, we need that hope, we need visiOn. You know, we need that hope, we need bold. VisiOn. You know, we need that hope, we need bold, cOnfident, clear missiOn we need bold, cOnfident, clear missiOn for the country that actuaiiy missiOn for the country that actually is notjust missiOn for the country that actually is not just about missiOn for the country that actually is notjust about big, shiny actually is notjust about big, shiny new things but is stuff that will help shiny new things but is stuff that will help every community throughout the uk will help every community throughout the uk. That is really what i want to see, the uk. That is really what i want to see, the the uk. That is really what i want to see, the equivalent of like harold to see, the equivalent of like harold wilsOns white heat of Technology Type of speech. That is what we Technology Type of speech. That is what we need now, to start looking up what we need now, to start looking up as what we need now, to start looking up as opposed to Down. We what we need now, to start looking up as opposed to Down. What we need now, to start looking up as opposed to Down. We will talk about all of up as opposed to Down. We will talk about all of these up as opposed to Down. We will talk about all of these things up as opposed to Down. We will talk about all of these things with about all of these things with Angela Rayner and the perceptiOn of The Party that has built in the last seven days but you have campaigned so passiOnately On housing. We have had you On the show before. Angela rayner is now in charge of housing policy. If there was One thing you could get her to wave a Magic Wand and do that is On your list, what would it be . I and do that is On your list, what would it be . And do that is On your list, what would it be . ~ ,. , would it be . I think probably top of M List at would it be . I think probably top of my list at the would it be . I think probably top of my list at the moment would it be . I think probably top of my list at the moment is would it be . I think probably top of my list at the moment is getting i would it be . I think probably top of| my list at the moment is getting rid of right my list at the moment is getting rid of right to my list at the moment is getting rid of right to buy my list at the moment is getting rid of right to buy in my list at the moment is getting rid of right to buy in its my list at the moment is getting rid of right to buy in its entirety. My list at the moment is getting rid of right to buy in its entirety. I of right to buy in its entirety. I would of right to buy in its entirety. I would say of right to buy in its entirety. I would say that of right to buy in its entirety. I would say that is of right to buy in its entirety. I would say that is top of right to buy in its entirety. I would say that is top of of right to buy in its entirety. I would say that is top of the of right to buy in its entirety. I| would say that is top of the list. We will would say that is top of the list. We will see would say that is top of the list. We will see what would say that is top of the list. We will see what she would say that is top of the list. We will see what she has would say that is top of the list. We will see what she has to would say that is top of the list. We will see what she has to say| would say that is top of the list. We will see what she has to say and we will put that questiOn to her later. Great to have you all with us in liverpool and we will get On with the main event. Shes got tOns of titles, and a lot of respOnsibilty. Shes Deputy Prime Minister, Secretary Of State for housing, communities and local government. And Angela Rayner is also still Deputy Leader of the Labour Party. She was elected by the members herself. Shes also One of those rare politicians with a reputatiOn for telling it like it is. Lets see if shell do that today. Applause. They cant be trusted On brexit, mr speaker, and they cant be trusted On the ecOnomy. So, Prime Minister, hows it going . Are you 0k . Cheering. Are the Tories Scum . I think that borisjohnsOn is a Racist And Misogynist and a homophobic guy and he needs to apologise for the comments hes made in the past. They are going to put up your taxes. That is a lie. By £2000. That is a lie. Angela rayner, thank you for being with us this morning. During the electiOn campaign, and then outside Downing street, Keir Starmer said time and again, we will return politics to the service of the People. What part of returning politics to the service of the People involves accepting free outfit� s . People involves accepting free outfits . ~ ,. , People involves accepting free outfits . ,. ,. , ~ , outfits . Well, first of all, mps have accepted outfits . Well, first of all, mps have accepted OnatiOns-outfits'>DOnatiOns Outfits . Well, first of all, mps have accepted dOnatiOns and L Outfits . Well, first of all, mps i have accepted dOnatiOns and gifts for years, all mps do it. And what we talked about is making sure that we talked about is making sure that we are open and transparent about that, and that was why the Prime Minister made sure that he corrected the record when he was advised that he needed to do that. He actively pursued that and took that advice and i think thats the right thing to do. We want to make sure that the government are transparent, but gifts and dOnatiOns have been a factor in our political life for some time. We could have a debate about that, you know, i was from a very working class background, to stand as Deputy Leader, as you say, to get that positiOn, i had to accept dOnatiOns in order for me to run the campaign because it is a very expensive way of doing our politics. What Keir Starmer was saying in particular around some of the dOnatiOns, so you can see, the football and security, that should not land On taxpayers, we are very clear On that. But we have to have transparency in the system. But the rules are the transparency in the system. But the rules are the Rules Transparency in the system. But the rules are the rules and transparency in the system. But the rules are the rules and the rules are the rules and the perceptiOn is a different thing. What part of returning politics to the service of the People involved accepting a free stay in a new York Apartment On holiday . First accepting a free stay in a new York Apartment On holiday . Apartment On holiday . First of all, i was On Holiday Apartment On holiday . First of all, i was On holiday in apartment On holiday . First of all, i was On holiday in new apartment On holiday . First of all, i was On holiday in New York, apartment On holiday . First of all, i was On holiday in New York, I Apartment On holiday . First of all, | i was On holiday in New York, i paid for my holiday. But as friends do, a friend allowed me to stay. I often allow People to stay at mine. But what i felt, i went beyOnd the rules, is because that persOn had dOnated to my Deputy Leadership who happens to be a friend but is a politician in their own right, i felt i should declare it a