And senior adviser at the non—profit razom for ukraine. She shared her insights on the discussion around permitting ukraine to target russia. When we spoke a few days ago, you are pretty optimistic that we would have a decision on these long—range missiles. What do you think is holding things up? do you think is holding things u ? , do you think is holding things u ' ? , ~ , do you think is holding things u. ? ,. , ,,. , , up? hey, lucy. So there is still _ up? hey, lucy. So there is still. . . We— up? hey, lucy. So there is still. . . We don't _ up? hey, lucy. So there is still. . . We don't know up? hey, lucy. So there is still. . . We don't know if i up? hey, lucy. So there is| still. . . We don't know if the decision has been made. Formally it has not been made. There is rumours that the storm shadows are going to be allowed, but we certainly don't know, and we have to say that is a possibility that london will begin to allow ukraine to use them, and that one probably makes a lot of sense. But the white house is really concerned about escalation, and putin has been making threat. And of course, this is what the white house has been trying to avoid for the last 2. 5 years. It is escalation, so this is chiefly on the white house's mind. What about the timing, _ on the white house's mind. What about the timing, though? as they wait, does this mean that russia can prepare for the possibility of these weapons arriving — they can move some of the targets out of range? 50 of the targets out of range? so the of the targets out of range? sr they already have, lucy, this is one of the arguments you are going to hearfrom is one of the arguments you are going to hear from the white house. The white house argues that it doesn't matter. Even if we allow the brits to use the storm shadows, if we allow ukraine to use the weapons with the 300 climate arranged, there is nothing to hit. Let's look into that claim. The institute for this body of water says that claim is nonsense, and if the ukrainians could use the attackers with that 300 kilometres range, they could hit 16 russian air spaces and another 230 russian and paramilitary targets, and it would also force the russians to make hard choices about their air defence systems. So i don't think the white house has a good case without one. The escalation one is harder to respond to. I escalation one is harder to re5pond tw— respond to. I interviewed general _ respond to. I interviewed general petraeus respond to. I interviewed general petraeus the respond to. I interviewed l general petraeus the other respond to. I interviewed general petraeus the other day and he said this isjust a bluff from president putin. His already throwing everything he can at ukraine. We talked about redlines before that have been crossed. What you think about the fact that it seems the white house is taking this latest threat from him so seriously?— latest threat from him so seriousl ? _. , seriously? so, lucy, frankly, this discussion _ seriously? so, lucy, frankly, this discussion should seriously? so, lucy, frankly, this discussion should not. Seriously? so, lucy, frankly, this discussion should not be seriously? so, lucy, frankly, i this discussion should not be a public one. The fact that it has gone into the public for the last two weeks gives vladimir putin an opportunity. I agree with ben wallace that this discussion should be private, and it should be made in confidentiality among allies. That would be the appropriate place to do it. It is giving putin space, and it also makes the us seem like it's more involved in operations in ukraine then we are. But more broadly, i think i would say to the white house, if i was talking to the national security council, look, guys, we've been involved in giving the ukrainians targeting information and surveillance over the last 2. 5 years. How does the use of british storm shadows up the anti—? i don't see how it does. Can look at what's coming up at ukraine in the next few months, belinda, with winter approaching. They've got issues around conscription which they're trying to fix. They got huge damage to their energy supplies as well. What are the people of ukraine facing us wins comic winter approaches? lucy, thank you for asking that question. I spent a month in lviv in western ukraine asking people at question and asking energy experts what is the winter going to be like. The answer i got was not very reassuring. It's going to be the hardest winter that ukrainians have faced. The grid is very fragile, and people don't know how bad it's going to be. It depends on how hard the grid is hit, where its hit, and also the temperatures. But themselves do have plan a, b and c in place. They've been through these hard winters before, but is going to be difficult. But the ukrainians will get through it, and volodymyr zelensky will continue to ask for those long—range weapons. Is someone who is incredibly persistent. If you doesn't get what he wants time, he will ask again next week in the week after. And we see pressure mounting in europe and also on capitol hill. So i think it's sort of inevitable. — hill. So i think it's sort of inevitable. ~ ,. ,. , inevitable. When you are there, their resilience _ inevitable. When you are there, their resilience is _ inevitable. When you are there, their resilience is absolutely their resilience is absolutely extraordinary, ukrainians, how did you find morale even they know what is coming up? 50. Know what is coming up? so, lu , i know what is coming up? so, lucy. I had — know what is coming up? so, lucy. I had the _ know what is coming up? s57, lucy, i had the pleasure of spending a day with one of the brigades out in lviv, and they were getting ready to go out east. Many of the men were in their 40s and they were not soldiers professionally, and they had volunteered on day one. And they are tired. But they still believe in the cause. They miss their families desperately. They stay in touch with their families by cellphone, and they long for the day when they can go back home, but there is still. . . I think the most interesting thing ifound think the most interesting thing i found was that these older soldiers don't want younger soldiers to fight. They want younger ukrainians to have a chance to live their lives, and they feel like i've had a chance, so let younger ukrainians have a chance to get married and have children, and then fight if they must. Israel has carried out more deadly raids on gaza. Health and civil defence officials in gaza say at least 14 people were killed in israeli airstrikes that targeted central and southern parts of the enclave overnight into saturday. 0ne raid hit a former school in gaza city. Palestinian rescuers say five people including two children were killed. In turkey, hundreds attended the funeral of american—turkish activist aysenur ezgi eygi, who israeli troops shot dead last week in the occupied west bank. The israeli military says ms eygi was most likely killed accidentally during a protest. Turkey says israel's killing was intentional. Meanwhile, the deputy leader of lebanese armed group hezbollah warned that hundreds of thousands more people would be displaced if israel were to launch an all—out war. Tens of thousands of people on both sides of the israel—lebanon border have already been forced from their homes as hezbollah and israel trade fire. The warning came after israel's defence minister said restoring security to the country's northern front was a top priority. Local media reports expect us special envoy amos hochstein to visit both israel and lebanon next week to soothe tensions between the two countries. I spoke about all this with firas maksad, a senior director for strategic outreach at the middle east institute. You've got quite a task ahead of him, mramos you've got quite a task ahead of him, mr amos hochstein, when he arrives in the region. What can he realistically expect to achieve? �* u, can he realistically expect to achieve? �*. , achieve? the american position has been very — achieve? the american position has been very clear, _ achieve? the american position has been very clear, and achieve? the american position has been very clear, and it's achieve? the american position has been very clear, and it's a l has been very clear, and it's a red light as it pertains to israel broadening and launching an all—out war, an all—out campaign, in southern lebanon. The argument that been put forward by the administration, as i had it directly this week, to be put by amos hochstein to visiting israelis, is can you achieve militarily what you have failed to achieve diplomatically? mr hochstein has essentially negotiated a pre— deal between hezbollah and israel, but that deal, which involves hezbollah moving a certain number of kilometres away from the israeli border, that needs to be unlocked through a ceasefire in gaza. That is the hezbollah and iranian precondition. So israel much more forward leaning here, wanting to take the fight to hezbollah, but that very crucial american green light to go ahead and launch that campaign is not therejust go ahead and launch that campaign is not there just yet. Yes, because what does that look like on the ground? if they are promising israelis that they will be able to return home to the north, the thousand that have been displaced, what does that actually mean the people on both sides of the border? well, if there is _ both sides of the border? well, if there is a _ both sides of the border? well, if there is a broadening both sides of the border? well, if there is a broadening of if there is a broadening of this campaign, as mr netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, is promising, it means more destruction and more displacement. 0bviously destruction and more displacement. Obviously the diplomatic row would preclude that. However, the key is can we get a ceasefire in gaza? and itjust we get a ceasefire in gaza? and it just seems that things are deadlocked. We can discuss whether that is deadlocked. I mean, on one hand, hamas and mr sinwar, who has it, have an interest in broadening this war and very much want to see hezbollah and iran being dragged into a fight on behalf of what he sees as his course. That was the initial objective of seven 0ctober. And also israeli prime minister bibi netanyahu doesn't want to face a day of reckoning once the guns fell silent and is using the philadelphia corridor as a pretext to stay away from that ceasefire. So the us very much pushing in the direction of a ceasefire. Even iran, hezbollah's patron, is pushing the direction of a ceasefire, but the local players here, hamas and bibi netanyahu, perhaps not interested. But are ou perhaps not interested. But are you hearing _ perhaps not interested. But are you hearing any _ perhaps not interested. But are you hearing any sentimental. You hearing any sentimental rhetoric from levin on that suggests that hezbollah really want to get any more involved — that they want to see this conflict widening? absolutely, the have conflict widening? absolutely, they have no _ conflict widening? absolutely, they have no interest, conflict widening? absolutely, they have no interest, nor conflict widening? absolutely, they have no interest, nor do| they have no interest, nor do their iran inpatient patrons. They want to extract a price from israel for its ongoing war in gaza. Let's remember that hamas is an ally of hezbollah and an ally of iran, and what israel is really doing here is dismantling the palestinian arm of that iranian access. So this is something that is strategically painful and costly for both iran and hezbollah, but they don't want to be dragged into a direct war, and nor does iran want to see hezbollah and a major war with israel. Hezbollah is very useful to the iranians as a first line of defence should israel attack its nuclear facilities. Forthose israel attack its nuclear facilities. For those reasons, not because they are responsible players, iran and hezbollah do not want to see a war. �*. ,, hezbollah do not want to see a war. �* ,. , hezbollah do not want to see a war. ~ ,. ,. , war. Amos hochstein going to the region _ war. Amos hochstein going to the region is— war. Amos hochstein going to the region is a _ war. Amos hochstein going to the region is a good _ war. Amos hochstein going to the region is a good thing the region is a good thing because he is very experienced and has been many times, and as many of the players. Aside from that, though, are you seeing any other progress or any signs of hope that we might be closer to some kind of ceasefire deal — anything from any of the other regional players? anything from any of the other regional players? well, ou aet other regional players? well, you get different _ other regional players? well, you get different answers you get different answers depending on who you talk to, but here is where things currently are. After hamas executed six of the israeli hostages, that really put things up in the air in terms of the various ratios and formulas that had been negotiated in terms of the hostages in exchange for the freeing of palestinian prisoners held in israeli jails. So that will take some time to figure itself out. On the other hand, the other sticking point is the philadelphia corridor. That order between, on one hand, egypt and on the other hand the gaza strip. Israel and bb netanyahu very much want to remain there under the pretext of controlling what comes in and out of gaza, fearing weapons smuggling. But even israeli security experts and military officials say there are other ways to solve that problem, even if israel does live that corridor, including an underground steel plate that would prevent the tunnels from being dug. So the reality is that this is complicated, and on both sides of this divide there seems to be people who want this to drag on. Tens of thousands of people in lima paid their respects at the funeral of former peruvian president alberto fujimori. The ceremony follows three days of national mourning. Mr fujimori died on wednesday at the age of 86. After 10 years in power, he served many years in prison for political corruption and human rights violations. But mr fujimori has also been praised by supporters for his work in the early 1990s defeating a leftist insurgency and for easing peru's inflation crisis. He was buried with full state honours. His daughter and political heir, keiko fujimori, was cheered on by supporters at the funeral and said her father was finally free from hatred and revenge. Joining me live now from lima, peru, is eduardo gonzalez, international expert on truth and reconciliation commissions. Eduardo, good to talk to you, particularly from lima. I imagine peru is very divided at the moment over the legacy of alberto fujimori. Can i ask if you think it was appropriate that he was buried with full military honours — that this was a state occasion? military honours that this was a state occasion? military honours that this was a state occasion? no, i don't think— was a state occasion? no, i don't think it _ was a state occasion? no, i don't think it was _ was a state occasion? no, i i don't think it was appropriate, for the simple reason that this is a country where at the same time that the former dictator receives these kinds of honest, there are 23,000 peruvians who disappeared during the armed conflict whose families do not have any information about their fate or whereabouts. This is a country, like many countries in latin america, thatis countries in latin america, that is very necrophilia, for sure. We have this obsession with leaders that lead to very ostentatious funerals in this region, and certainly in peru, but it is really a demonstration of our inequality that at the same time we have thousands of families of people from humble origins that are unable to know where their loved ones are, even to this day. Loved ones are, even to this da. . ,. . , , ,. , day. How much has his death reo en day. How much has his death reopen some _ day. How much has his death reopen some of _ day. How much has his death reopen some of these day. How much has his death reopen some of these old reopen some of these old wounds? i reopen some of these old wounds?— reopen some of these old wounds? ~ ,. , , reopen some of these old wounds? ~. , ,. , wounds? i think those wounds do not need much _ wounds? i think those wounds do not need much scratching wounds? i think those wounds do not need much scratching to wounds? i think those wounds do not need much scratching to be l not need much scratching to be reopened. They are open for the simple reason, again, that memory continues to be a battlefield in peru, that the sector that supports fujimori has lionised his figure, culturing, hiding the work that the armed forces themselves, the armed forces themselves, the police forces themselves, the police forces themselves, the self defence organisations in the peasant areas, did. So it has all become a memory of heroism around one person, and i think that that memory is profoundly distorted. So for those people _ profoundly distorted. So for those people who _ profoundly distorted. So for those people who are profoundly distorted. So for those people who are still. Those people who are still seeking answers, still experiencing the pain that you've described, is there any movement within the country, or sentiment from all the different parties, to come together for some further truth and reconciliation, like some of the committees that you've been part of before? it’s been part of before? it's difficult _ been part of before? it's difficult to _ been part of before? it's difficult to see _ been part of before? it's difficult to see how been part of before? it�*s difficult to see how that can happen because, regrettably, here we are seeing that memory continues to be this space of confrontation, that even after death we don't let memories come down. Just a couple of years ago, the leader of the shining path, who died coincidentally on the same date, his body was not given to his family, and it was actually cremated and disposed of in private. So you see. And at the same time, his major enemy, the president of the time, is sent off with this funeral of state, in spite of having received five different sentences against him. So you see, i think that the debate about these complicated memories in these complicated memories in these painful memories is going to continue, and it is going to give continue for the reason that there is impunity in the country. When there's been a lot of focus on keiko fujimori in the last few days. What are her intentions now? well, she has stated three times her presidential —— was defeated three times in her presidential ambitions, always by very little percentages, which shows that, yes, there is a strong following around her, but at the same time, that anti— fujimori feelings were eventually stronger. It's what i would say is our own peruvian version of the sanitary, so—called, according against ultra right wing electoral options in europe and other countries. Eventually they were always defeated, and they were defeated because of the memory that peruvians have about that regime. That peruvians have about that reaime. . ,. , ,. ,. , that peruvians have about that reaime. . ,. ,. ,. , ,, regime. Eduardo gonzalez, thank ou ve regime. Eduardo gonzalez, thank you very much — regime. Eduardo gonzalez, thank you very much for _ regime. Eduardo gonzalez, thank you very much forjoining regime. Eduardo gonzalez, thank you very much forjoining us you very much forjoining us from lima. It has been another historic week in us politics, and neither candidate is taking a day off. Donald trump is meeting with donors in utah, while kamala harris is scheduled to fundraise here in washingt