Transcripts For BBCNEWS Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg 2024090

BBCNEWS Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg September 9, 2024

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Iie editor of The Sun and the guardian scooped are here with us today along with the chef. Morning, morning. Lets start as we always do, with whats making the news. No one dominant story this morning. We heard Keir Starmer condemning the tories handling of the nhs in our interview. The observer leads with the Governments Review into the nhs. The Mail On Sunday and The Sunday express both go after Labours Tax plans. Michael gove tells The Sunday times The Treasury blocked him going after grenfell bosses. We will hear more from Keir Starmer abOut that later too. The sun and the Mirror Splash on strictly and oasis. Maybe something in there for everyone. Keir starmer, victoria, we will hearfrom him at everyone. Keir starmer, victoria, we will hear from him at length for The First time, but it has been a gloomy first time, but it has been a gloomy first couple of Months. That first time, but it has been a gloomy first couple of Months. First couple of Months. That is ri. Ht. First couple of Months. That is riuht. I first couple of Months. That is right. I started first couple of Months. That is right. I started off first couple of Months. That is right. I started off hitting first couple of Months. That is right. I started off hitting the| right. I started off hitting the ground running with planning reforms, the nhs before now going to do, but obviously riots, which i think caught them on the back foot, a bit of a mixed bag and a gloomy set of predictions. A bit of a mixed bag and a gloomy set of predictions. Pippa, he walked into a big Row Set of predictions. Pippa, he walked into a big row over set of predictions. Pippa, he walked into a big row over the set of predictions. Pippa, he walked into a big row over the Winter Set of predictions. Pippa, he walked into a big row over the Winter Fuel i into a big row over the Winter Fuel allowance, a vote in parliament this week, how would you assess how serious it is for him on that issue . Actually the most serious potential rebellion actually the most serious potential rebellion he has faced of his premiership, it is something i have found premiership, it is something i have found mps premiership, it is something i have found mps from the left, middle and iiliit found mps from the left, middle and right of found mps from the left, middle and right of the Labour Party really concerned abOut, their own E Mail Inbox concerned abOut, their own E Mail Inbox is concerned abOut, their own E Mail Inbox is overflowing from constituents, and the party whips Out talking to people and were showing Out talking to people and were showing them, saying it is an important showing them, saying it is an important part of plugging the hole that government say they have inherited that government say they have inherited from the tories, but a lot of wobbles. Inherited from the tories, but a lot of wobbles, at the top as Well. Wobbling already . Not of wobbles, at the top as Well. Wobbling already . Of wobbles, at the top as Well. Wobbling already . Not a maor parliamentary D Wobbling already . Not a maor parliamentary rebellion. wobbling already . Not a maor parliamentary rebellion. He h wobbling already . Not a major| parliamentary rebellion. He has wobbling already . Not a major i parliamentary rebellion. He has a hue parliamentary rebellion. He has a huge majority parliamentary rebellion. He has a huge majority of parliamentary rebellion. He has a huge majority of the parliamentary rebellion. He has a huge majority of the rebellion parliamentary rebellion. He has a huge majority of the rebellion in l huge majority of the rebellion in july huge majority of the rebellion in july over the two child benefit cap, seven Labour Mps suspended for several Months, the whips will be hanging that over people as a track of what might happen should they go against. The of what might happen should they go aaainst.. Of what might happen should they go aaainst. i , against. The public feeling is very stron . Against. The public feeling is very strong proud against. The public feeling is very strong. Proud campaigner against. The public feeling is very strong. Proud campaigner for against. The public feeling is very strong. Proud campaigner for the | strong. Proud campaigner for the green party. Strong. Proud campaigner for the green party, but strong. Proud campaigner for the green party, but this strong. Proud campaigner for the | green party, but this government strong. Proud campaigner for the green party, but this government has vowed to take a very different approach on the environment and energy, what is your take on what you have seen so far . Energy, what is your take on what you have seen so far . Yes, i am on Keir Starmers you have seen so far . Yes, i am on Keir Starmers side you have seen so far . Yes, i am on Keir Starmers side and you have seen so far . Yes, i am on Keir Starmers side and we you have seen so far . Yes, i am on Keir Starmers side and we want. You have seen so far . Yes, i am on| Keir Starmers side and we want him to do Keir Starmers side and we want him to do Well Keir Starmers side and we want him to do Well and Keir Starmers side and we want him to do Well and we Keir Starmers side and we want him to do Well and we want Keir Starmers side and we want him to do Well and we want him Keir Starmers side and we want him to do Well and we want him to to do Well and we want him to succeed to do Well and we want him to succeed in to do Well and we want him to succeed in areas to do Well and we want him to succeed in areas with to do Well and we want him to succeed in areas with really i to do Well and we want him to. Succeed in areas with really bold policies. Succeed in areas with really bold policies. Not succeed in areas with really bold policies, not to succeed in areas with really bold policies, not to be succeed in areas with really bold policies, not to be timid. Succeed in areas with really bold policies, not to be timid. So succeed in areas with really bold policies, not to be timid. So far, he has policies, not to be timid. So far, he has been policies, not to be timid. So far, he has been a policies, not to be timid. So far, he has been a little policies, not to be timid. So far, he has been a little bit policies, not to be timid. So far, he has been a little bit on policies, not to be timid. So far, he has been a little bit on the i he has been a little bit on the Timid He has been a little bit on the timid side, he has been a little bit on the timid side, certainly he has been a little bit on the timid side, certainly when he has been a little bit on the timid side, certainly when it i he has been a little bit on the timid side, certainly when it comes tom timid side, certainly when it comes tom he timid side, certainly when it comes tom he seems timid side, certainly when it comes to. He seems to timid side, certainly when it comes to. 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His green eggs in the energy basket, his green eggs in the energy basket, his own his green eggs in the energy basket, his own climate his green eggs in the energy basket, his own Climate Change his green eggs in the energy basket, his own climate Change Committee i his own climate Change Committee have made his own climate Change Committee have made it his own climate Change Committee have made it clear his own climate Change Committee have made it clear there his own climate Change Committee have made it clear there are his own climate Change Committee have made it clear there are manyl have made it clear there are many other have made it clear there are many other sectors have made it clear there are many other sectors that have made it clear there are many other sectors that require have made it clear there are many other sectors that require reform i other sectors that require reform and bold other sectors that require reform and bold policies other sectors that require reform and bold policies around other sectors that require reformi and bold policies around climate, including and bold policies around climate, including of and bold policies around climate, including of course and bold policies around climate, including of course housing, including of course housing, transport, including of course housing, transport, but including of course housing, transport, but also including of course housing, transport, but also food including of course housing, transport, but also food and including of course housing, transport, but also Food And Farming in nature transport, but also Food And Farming in nature which transport, but also Food And Farming in nature which i transport, but also Food And Farming in nature which i think transport, but also Food And Farming in nature which i think was transport, but also Food And Farming in nature which i think was a transport, but also Food And Farming in nature which i think was a huge i in nature which i think was a huge issue in nature which i think was a huge issue in in nature which i think was a huge issue in the in nature which i think was a huge issue in the election in nature which i think was a huge issue in the election and in nature which i think was a huge issue in the election and one in nature which i think was a huge issue in the election and one of. In nature which i think was a huge i issue in the election and one of the Reason Issue in the election and one of the reason the issue in the election and one of the reason the Tories Issue in the election and one of the reason the tories was issue in the election and one of the reason the tories was unpopular i reason the tories was unpopular because reason the tories was unpopular because they reason the tories was unpopular because theyjust reason the tories was unpopular because theyjust did reason the tories was unpopular because theyjust did not reason the tories was unpopular because theyjust did not appear reason the tories was unpopular i because theyjust did not appear to ive because theyjust did not appear to give a because theyjust did not appear to give a damn because theyjust did not appear to give a damn abOut because theyjust did not appear to give a damn abOut our because theyjust did not appear to give a damn abOut our green because theyjust did not appear to give a damn abOut our green and l give a damn abOut our green and pleasant give a damn abOut our green and pleasant land. Give a damn abOut our green and pleasant land, particularly give a damn abOut our green and pleasant land, particularly rivers| pleasant land, particularly rivers and seas pleasant land, particularly rivers and seas so pleasant land, particularly rivers and seas. I pleasant land, particularly rivers and seas. I, pleasant land, particularly rivers and seas. I i, i, i, and seas. So much to talk abOut, so much to talk and seas. So much to talk abOut, so much to talk abOut and seas. So much to talk abOut, so much to talk abOut with and seas. So much to talk abOut, so much to talk abOut with him, and seas. So much to talk abOut, so much to talk abOut with him, and i and seas. So much to talk abOut, so | much to talk abOut with him, and we could not get to every subject, but plenty you are abOut to hear, 65 days on since the Keir Starmer became Prime Minister. After four years as labour leader, and ia years of the conservatives in charge. Since then, weve heard again and again how broken he believes the country is whether its the economy, the nhs, the summer riots, or trains that dont run on time. Today he vows hell be unpopular to sort it all Out, but labour is plainly delighted to be back in power Keir Starmer only the Fifth Labour Prime Minister to win a general election. What was it like taking his seat at cabinet for The First time . It was a really important moment because it was a moment of great change for the country, change for me and my family, but the chance to do what i came into politics to do. I came into politics relatively late in life. I came in with a clear intention to change the country for the better. Its really hard to do that from opposition. So, when we were able to win the election with a good mandate for change, and come in here to the Cabinet Room and sit down for The First time as a team, it was a really important moment, a moment of change and the beginning of the next stage of the journey for the country, which is very, very important. Did you have to pinch yourself at all . Well, you do. You know, as you walk in the door, as i walked for The First time, as you know, i walked up Downing Street. Lots of people there, friends, supporters, People Id known a long time. Then stood with vic at the door. The door opens and you walk in. And that is the moment that i think i really took it in that, you know, weve got the chance to change the country, we own all the problems, of course, but actually, the hard work was able to start then. What you couldnt know on the morning that you walked through is that, for days through the summer, there was a series of riots in 20 towns and cities across our country. On friday, a man called thomas birley, who was part of a group that attacked a Hotel Housing Asylum seekers, who was described as having a white supremacist mindset, was given the longest sentence so far over 1,000 people have been arrested over this. You said the riots showed there was a societal Black Hole. What did you mean by that . What i meant by that was that the riots, i think, were symbolic of a broken society. Now, im not going to justify for one minute the violence in those riots. They are not capable of justification. They were not protest. They were far right in the main. But underneath that, i think there was a societal Black Hole, a breaking of our society, which we need to mend. The immediate problem was to regain control of the situation, to make sure we had enough police across the country to police on the front line, to make sure we had prosecutors and courts able to process the cases and get people sentenced very quickly. I was really clear that we needed to ensure that if somebody was throwing a rock, a plank, or trying to set fire to a hotel on a saturday or a sunday night, within a week, they ought to be starting a prison sentence. And by and large, difficult though that was, we managed to achieve that, which i think played a big part in bringing order to what was a very dangerous situation. That attempt to set fire to a hotel in rotherham with People Inside was particularly chilling. But do you think the rioters were racists . I think the far right. I think there was racism there. I think it featured differently across the country. I went over to belfast, for example, to talk to the Police Service of northern ireland who had Petrol Bombs thrown at them. And theres No Doubt there was racism there. So, there was racism, far right, but it was totally illegitimate. It is not acceptable in any society. And, yes, i accept that across the country people have strong views abOut things like immigration. I accept that, but im not prepared to tolerate that sort of disorder under any circumstances. Nor will i change Government Policy one bit as a result of that sort of violence. Do you think were a racist country . I dont think were a racist country. I think were a country of decent people, tolerant people. The Real Britain was the people who came Out the day after. In sOuthport, it was incredible. People came Out with their trowels, with their brooms. They cleaned up, they rebuilt. Theyre the real face of britain. And

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